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2013-07-03T02:16:34  <Evilpig_> aestetix: the $666 pledge level is hilarious
2013-07-03T02:16:45  <Evilpig_> if I had that kind of money to throw around that would be a riot
2013-07-03T02:17:41  <Evilpig_> and for $1000 I can skydick into their game as an evil character.  lol
2013-07-03T02:18:08  <aestetix> that would be funny as hell
2013-07-03T02:18:09  <RangerZ> Evilpig_: start a kickstarter yourself
2013-07-03T02:18:22  <RangerZ> "i want to name the evil character in this other game"
2013-07-03T02:18:23  <RangerZ> LOL
2013-07-03T02:18:27  <Evilpig_> lol
2013-07-03T02:18:39  <RangerZ> you'd probably get 100x 10$ donations
2013-07-03T02:19:27  <aestetix> haha
2013-07-03T02:19:45  <Evilpig_> start a 7 day kickstarter for that?  lol
2013-07-03T02:21:21  <RangerZ> sure
2013-07-03T02:21:23  <RangerZ> I would
2013-07-03T02:21:32  <RangerZ> if I were you and had a complex about him
2013-07-03T02:21:33  <RangerZ> which you do
2013-07-03T02:21:35  <RangerZ> LOL
2013-07-03T02:21:55  <RangerZ> indiegogo would probably be better
2013-07-03T02:22:05  <RangerZ> kickstarter had much more stringent requirements
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2013-07-03T03:50:11  <Evilpig_> interesting that's two in the last four hours
2013-07-03T03:50:21  <Evilpig_> i've had a password leak
2013-07-03T03:50:30  <Evilpig_> first ebay and now minecraft
2013-07-03T04:04:34  <Dagmar> A minecraft password leak?
2013-07-03T04:05:19  <Evilpig_> Hi wilpig,
2013-07-03T04:05:19  <Evilpig_> Someone requested a password reset for your Minecraft account.
2013-07-03T04:05:19  <Evilpig_> If you didn't, please ignore this email.
2013-07-03T04:05:20  <Evilpig_> To reset your password, visit this url within six hours:
2013-07-03T04:05:20  <Evilpig_> https://minecraft.net/resetpassword?user=wilpig&uid=33f6a839b02d9f434512fd09844a1638
2013-07-03T04:05:21  <GateKeeper> Title: Minecraft (at minecraft.net)
2013-07-03T04:05:22  <Evilpig_> Thank you for playing Minecraft,
2013-07-03T04:05:25  <Evilpig_> Mojang.
2013-07-03T04:05:34  <Dagmar> Ah...
2013-07-03T04:05:48  <Evilpig_> dealing with my ebay account right now
2013-07-03T04:05:58  <Evilpig_> you wouldn't believe the crazy number they have in for my phone number now.
2013-07-03T04:09:19  <Dagmar> Okay so I think I have figured out the grass-doesn't-grow-on-constructed-ramps is a border issue
2013-07-03T04:10:08  <Dagmar> If you basically replace one of the ramps with floor and a solid wall, and then dig it back down into a ramp after grass grew on it, *then* it see it's way across the border and starts growing
2013-07-03T04:11:33  <Dagmar> Hmm... I think I see an even simpler way to get around it
2013-07-03T04:11:50  <Evilpig_> Thank you for waiting. After I've reviewed the account under the user id wilpig, the information that you gave me is all different in here. So I recommend to contact our Account Safety team at 1800-093-577, they are open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
2013-07-03T04:11:55  <Evilpig_> :/
2013-07-03T04:12:06  <Evilpig_> that number is missing a digit
2013-07-03T04:16:15  <Evilpig_> dag, you interested in going to see despicable me 2 with us on friday?
2013-07-03T04:16:37  <Dagmar> Yep
2013-07-03T04:33:29  <Evilpig_> 866-961-9253
2013-07-03T04:34:03  <Evilpig_> that's the real ebay security number
2013-07-03T04:38:14  <Evilpig_> ebay just asked me what email address I used in 2002.  uhhhh fuck.  10 years ago?  hell
2013-07-03T04:38:44  <Evilpig_> my email archives only go back to 8/2002
2013-07-03T05:04:25  <aestetix> http://mobandmultitude.com/2013/07/02/the-nsa-comes-recruiting/
2013-07-03T05:04:27  <GateKeeper> Title: » The NSA Comes Recruiting The Mob and the Multitude (at mobandmultitude.com)
2013-07-03T05:22:52  <aestetix> fuck rackspace
2013-07-03T05:22:59  <aestetix> I just found a big issue with their new systems
2013-07-03T05:23:21  <Evilpig_> ummmmm i give up
2013-07-03T05:25:34  <aestetix> give up?
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2013-07-03T07:26:18  <Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
2013-07-03T07:31:46  <Evilpig_> shhh
2013-07-03T07:32:33  <Dolemite> GitHub must still be broken.  I see nothing to pull from last night. :P
2013-07-03T07:32:46  <Evilpig_> or I didn't commit anything last night :P
2013-07-03T07:33:08  <Evilpig_> damnit I knew this was swiveling too easily.  I left a rubber grommit out
2013-07-03T07:33:24  <Dolemite> New chair?
2013-07-03T07:33:32  <Dolemite> Or new sex toy?
2013-07-03T07:34:07  <Evilpig_> fixing my camera
2013-07-03T07:34:21  <Evilpig_> stupid cats knocked it off the monitor and the mount broke
2013-07-03T07:35:13  <Dolemite> ah
2013-07-03T07:36:07  <Dolemite> So apparently I'm now getting involved in the Boy Scout's S.T.E.M. program.  Some of the national committee members are here in Knoxville and I had to open my big mouth around them.
2013-07-03T07:36:44  <Evilpig_> have fun with that
2013-07-03T07:37:00  <Dolemite> They are building a portable lab in a van/bus and were talking about ways to do the network.  I mentioned that they needed to set up a squid proxy to filter the bad web pages and to save on bandwidth.
2013-07-03T07:37:04  <Evilpig_> I was part of TSA when I was in HS and then for a few years in college I went back to act as a judge for the regional stuff
2013-07-03T07:37:23  <Dolemite> Ah, it'll be a simple thing.  Just install pfSense on a PC and write up a document of how to run it
2013-07-03T07:38:32  <Evilpig_> or get them setup with a smoothwall
2013-07-03T07:38:41  <Evilpig_> a little more user friendly
2013-07-03T07:38:53  <Evilpig_> might be horribly out of date now though
2013-07-03T07:39:28  <Evilpig_> maybe not.  lookl ike 3.1 rc1 was just released on the 18th
2013-07-03T07:39:58  <Evilpig_> http://www.smoothwall.org/about/screenshots/
2013-07-03T07:40:01  <GateKeeper> Title: Screenshots (at www.smoothwall.org)
2013-07-03T07:43:01  <Dolemite> pfSense was an offshoot of smoothwall
2013-07-03T07:43:37  <Dolemite> and for what they'll be doing, the web gui will handle everything
2013-07-03T07:45:56  <Evilpig_> pfSense was shot off of monowall
2013-07-03T07:48:08  <Evilpig_> no biggie either way just tossing that option out there
2013-07-03T07:48:24  <Dolemite> Yeah, there are several of them
2013-07-03T07:48:58  <Dolemite> It may boil down to the hardware and which one will go on it.  I've had pfSense not like some hardware, and some not like monowall.
2013-07-03T08:22:17  <Dolemite> Evilpig_: How widespread is Sprint's LTE getting to be in Nashville?
2013-07-03T08:31:01  <Evilpig_> LT what?
2013-07-03T08:31:11  <Evilpig_> none of us would know since we all disabled it
2013-07-03T08:33:37  <Dolemite> Why?
2013-07-03T08:33:46  <Evilpig_> cause it's broken as fuck
2013-07-03T08:34:00  <Dolemite> Hrmm.  Not the places I've picked it up.
2013-07-03T08:34:08  <Dolemite> Are you running stock or CM10?
2013-07-03T08:34:11  <Evilpig_> you call in and complain about it and "we're aware of the issues and we're working to fix them"
2013-07-03T08:34:34  <Evilpig_> it's nice when it works.  but makes me want to bounce my phone off the pavement the rest of the time
2013-07-03T08:34:37  <Dolemite> Ah.  Out here it's just either on or off.
2013-07-03T08:34:53  <Dolemite> If I can get LTE, I get great speed.  If not, I get decent 3G.
2013-07-03T08:34:56  <Evilpig_> here, generally, if it's on you get no data service
2013-07-03T08:35:01  <Dolemite> Ouch
2013-07-03T08:35:22  <Evilpig_> if you kill the chip and let it go 3g it's slow but at least it works
2013-07-03T08:35:41  <Dolemite> Haven't run into that.  Then again, Sprint doesn't own any of the towers in East TN.  They lease the LTE service from the same company that leases them to US Cellular.
2013-07-03T08:36:15  <Dolemite> Supposedly I-75 has LTE coverage from Athens all the way to Atlanta, now.
2013-07-03T08:36:29  <Evilpig_> I would say I flip on the lte radio once a month to remind me why I have it turned off
2013-07-03T08:36:50  <Dolemite> They were working on Lenoir City the other day - I had LTE there one day, but then it wasn't available the next.
2013-07-03T08:37:40  <Dolemite> Now that they turned off iDEN it will hopefully speed them up.  That freed up a lot of spectrum.
2013-07-03T08:37:58  <Dolemite> s/speed them up/speed the deployment process up/
2013-07-03T08:38:32  <Dolemite> Of course, Middle TN wasted a lot of tower space deploying WiMax.  That's a whole different problem.
2013-07-03T09:27:31  <Dagmar> Not wasted.  It works better than Sprint's 4G
2013-07-03T09:27:55  <opticron> t-mo is deploying LTE pretty quick now as well
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2013-07-03T10:47:07  <eryc> didnt they get a big investment from at&t a while back to fund their LTE rollout
2013-07-03T10:53:05  <Dolemite> No, they are in talks to have SoftBank buy take over
2013-07-03T10:53:14  <Dolemite> er, they = Sprnit
2013-07-03T10:53:16  <Dolemite> Sprint
2013-07-03T10:53:23  <Dolemite> AT&T tried to buy T-Mobile but it was blocked by the FCC
2013-07-03T10:56:35  <Dolemite> hehehe.  I'm going to teach Boy Scouts to make Cat 5e patch cables on August 1, apparently.  It's going to be part of the STEM Academy.
2013-07-03T11:00:50  <aestetix> vagina
2013-07-03T11:00:53  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
2013-07-03T11:01:16  <Dolemite> I will stress the importance of not allowing hugs from strangers. :P
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2013-07-03T11:05:36  <Dickie> I consider myself a professional hugger
2013-07-03T11:05:45  <Dickie> It depends on how filthy the stranger appears
2013-07-03T11:06:03  <Dickie> Amongst this crowd, hugs are usually withheld.
2013-07-03T11:06:08  <Dickie> Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeerds
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2013-07-03T11:12:33  <rattle> So, they are using Skype for witness testimony at the Zimmerman thing...
2013-07-03T11:12:59  <rattle> And of course, CNN is covering it gavel-to-gavel, because sensationalism is apparently Zucker's new thing...
2013-07-03T11:13:13  <rattle> And now every idiot in the Internet is submitting calls to the current witness.
2013-07-03T11:13:20  <rattle> I must admit, it's entertaining.
2013-07-03T11:22:13  <Dagmar> lol
2013-07-03T11:31:10  <aestetix> haha
2013-07-03T11:31:16  <aestetix> rattle: is there a link to a livestream?
2013-07-03T12:01:48  <aestetix> this should be fun
2013-07-03T12:02:10  <aestetix> You guys should join the effort in showing up at the international terminal of Nashville's airport with Edward Snowden signs
2013-07-03T12:02:15  <aestetix> as if you're picking him up from the airport
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2013-07-03T12:07:25  <Dolemite> Except that it's all one baggage pickup area.  You can't go to the terminal itself without a ticket.
2013-07-03T12:08:30  <aestetix> That works. Just wait for a flight arriving from Russia or something :p
2013-07-03T12:13:55  <notlarry_> Hello
2013-07-03T12:14:01  <notlarry_> Hellow World
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2013-07-03T12:14:27  <aestetix> http://aestetix.net/gatekeeper.html
2013-07-03T12:14:28  <GateKeeper> Title: http://www.vagina.com (at aestetix.net)
2013-07-03T12:14:39  <NotLarry> I'm not touching that...
2013-07-03T12:16:19  <aestetix> actually this gives me an idea
2013-07-03T12:17:07  <Bahhumbug> http://aestetix.net/gatekeeper.html
2013-07-03T12:17:16  <Bahhumbug> Neither is the bot any longer.
2013-07-03T12:18:46  <aestetix> http://aestetix.net/gatekeeper.html
2013-07-03T12:18:50  <aestetix> oh come on
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2013-07-03T12:22:50  <aestetix> http://www.google.com
2013-07-03T12:22:51  <GateKeeper> Title: Google (at www.google.com)
2013-07-03T12:22:58  <aestetix> ok so it's just looking for the word aestetix
2013-07-03T12:23:44  <Bahhumbug> iptables -I OUTOUT --dest 173.203.198.40 -j DROP actually.
2013-07-03T12:23:57  <Bahhumbug> of course the real rule spelled 'OUTPUT' properly
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2013-07-03T12:42:21  <Synx|hm> Ugh, just got back from the Dr, been informed no movement in the dilation so its going to be a bit more time (weeks) before labor, wife is not pleased as the little dude is already 7lbs
2013-07-03T12:45:54  <NotLarry>  Bahhumbug I kind of like OUTOUT.  Kind of reflects the courts recent activity don't you think?
2013-07-03T12:46:18  <NotLarry> Synx|hm: I told her not to let you put that thing in her...
2013-07-03T12:47:19  <NotLarry> You tell her it won't be that long before he will be 150lb and standing there looking in a full refrigerator saying there is nothing to eat...
2013-07-03T12:48:32  <Bahhumbug> NotLarry: heh
2013-07-03T12:57:25  <aestetix> Synx|hm: do you have a vacuum cleaner?
2013-07-03T12:59:17  <Synx|hm> NotLarry: ha ya i should just hand him my wallet when he is born and say 'here you go, have at it'
2013-07-03T12:59:55  <aestetix> Synx|hm: don't you normally wait until they are 16 for that?
2013-07-03T12:59:59  <aestetix> Or is it 13
2013-07-03T13:10:54  <Synx|hm> http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/skype/zimmerman-trial-skype-bombing-756390
2013-07-03T13:10:55  <GateKeeper> Title: Hilarious Skype Bombing Brings Halt To Witness Testimony In George Zimmerman Trial | The Smoking Gun (at www.thesmokinggun.com)
2013-07-03T13:10:59  <Synx|hm> Ha!
2013-07-03T13:11:13  <Synx|hm> wonder if they can track those people down and hold them in contempt of court
2013-07-03T13:23:03  <Bahhumbug> Wtf has this country descended into if we're using Skype for witness testimony?
2013-07-03T13:26:45  <Synx|hm> not not surprised in the least
2013-07-03T13:26:59  <Synx|hm> s/not not/i am not
2013-07-03T13:35:18  <Synx|hm> FUCK YOU MS WORD!
2013-07-03T13:35:26  <Synx|hm> it just fucked all my my figure numbers up
2013-07-03T13:36:57  <Dagmar> Bahhumbug: What's the problem?  The NSA is more reliable than a court reporter.
2013-07-03T13:38:54  <Synx|hm> so ive got a question, i understand why people are pissed at Clapper but... he cant just go spilling TS/SI material all over the place every time hes asked a direct question, perhaps his response should have been "im sorry i am unable to answer that question in this venue" instead of "no we do not collect on americans" but its a slippery slope and hes basically giving away secrets
2013-07-03T13:39:35  <Synx|hm> i know there are other implications here like, should we be classifying information simply because we dont want the american people to konw about it vs its for actual national security
2013-07-03T13:40:06  <Synx|hm> but i have a hard time faulting someone for no telling the truth when the truth is classified
2013-07-03T13:40:21  <Synx|hm> that is not to say i agree in any way with what the NSA is doing
2013-07-03T14:26:28  <oddball> On the same topic, I just had an exchange with someone on facebook that is perfectly fine with them making a database to speed things up when they do have a warrant for a particular person.  So... the mass wiretapping is fine because they say they won't use the info unless the have a warrant.
2013-07-03T14:27:15  <oddball> At that point, I decided that I can't argue with this person anymore because are views are just too damn different.
2013-07-03T14:28:18  <Synx|hm> ya, its a fine line and sometimes im not sure where exactly is the right place to be
2013-07-03T14:29:21  <oddball> Once you get to "it's ok for our government to build a database on where you go, what you buy, and who you talk to 'just in case,'" you've lost me.
2013-07-03T14:29:54  <Synx|hm> well we've already let corporate america do that
2013-07-03T14:30:00  <Synx|hm> but ya i agree its too much power
2013-07-03T14:30:23  <Synx|hm> im all for getting the 'bad guys' but the key is if its at the expense of my liberties then well the bad guy are winning
2013-07-03T14:32:25  <oddball> And there has been a long standing belief that the government needs to be held to a higher standing, since it also commands a monopoly of force.
2013-07-03T14:32:39  <oddball> s/standing/standard
2013-07-03T14:34:17  <Synx|hm> ya i agree
2013-07-03T14:35:04  <Synx|hm> my only point was at the begining, if i hold state secrets or f' anything classified for that matter, just because you ask me a direct question does not give me the leway to declassify that information
2013-07-03T14:35:21  <Synx|hm> im not sure how that works in congress i assume they close some door and bam they got to know what ever they want
2013-07-03T14:35:33  <oddball> Oh... yeah... sorry.  This is a major sidetrack from that.
2013-07-03T14:35:47  <Synx|hm> haha no worries its all good discussion material
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2013-07-03T14:38:25  <Synx|hm> now what clapper decides to do with all the shit he knows, well id like to think he has the fortitude to know when something is just WRONG and if i needs to be either leaked or shut down from his level, but thats really a decision he has to make as he signed all sorts of agreements to not spill the beans like anyone with access has done
2013-07-03T14:38:50  <Synx|hm> im just rambling now
2013-07-03T14:44:20  <Synx|hm> yay called the butcher and asked them to hold some beef back ribs for me
2013-07-03T14:44:35  <Synx|hm> looks like everyone is grilling tomorrow
2013-07-03T14:49:24  <oddball> I know some of my friends are going to the Melting Pot tomorrow.  We decided that we really didn't need to spend $80 and fight downtown July 4th traffic for dinner (nice dinner, but...)
2013-07-03T15:16:00  <Synx|hm> whats up with the Mr. FIRSTNAME shit in the south
2013-07-03T15:16:33  <Synx|hm> sometimes i think, awe thats cute and nice, then the other part of me thinks, wtf kind of backwards ass hicksville am i living in
2013-07-03T15:17:25  <opticron> Synx|hm, maybe some people are so inbred that they have no meaningful last name and thus assume that everyone else is the same?
2013-07-03T15:17:42  <Synx|hm> valid point!
2013-07-03T15:18:06  <oddball> It is true that there are a lot of smaller towns where a good unmber of "the people that matter" are related to one degree or another.
2013-07-03T15:28:15  <oddball> I'm guessing it's also a hold over from when it was common for families to have servents.  The servents would still use Mr. or Mrs. out of respect, but when there were multiple siblings in the house, using the last name could get confusing quickly.
2013-07-03T15:38:09  <aestetix> vagina
2013-07-03T16:01:51  <aestetix> Synx|hm: oddball so.....
2013-07-03T16:02:02  <aestetix> The issue with the wiretapping is not Obama and others right now
2013-07-03T16:02:07  <aestetix> It's with the people who will come along
2013-07-03T16:02:20  <oddball> yep
2013-07-03T16:02:33  <aestetix> I think it was the 1938 census.... Germany, Poland and a few other countries started recording religious affiliations of people
2013-07-03T16:02:48  <aestetix> Then Hitler rose to power, and used the census material to find all the jews
2013-07-03T16:03:01  <aestetix> This is the main reason that Europeans have such strong privacy laws today
2013-07-03T16:03:25  <aestetix> So yes, just because the people in charge are not abusing the data doesn't mean the next guy won't.
2013-07-03T16:05:03  <aestetix> (this is also one of the reasons there is this whole IBM supported the holocaust moment, because the Nazis were using IBM machines to tabulate all this data)
2013-07-03T16:05:45  <aestetix> Synx|hm: share that factoid with your friend and see how they respond :)
2013-07-03T16:06:43  <oddball> aestetix: Yeah... I like to show people pictures of my M1 carbine that IBM made for the US in WWII when they try that one on me.
2013-07-03T16:07:06  <aestetix> haha
2013-07-03T16:07:30  <aestetix> I'm just saying... when people ask why Europe has strong privacy laws and the US doesn't
2013-07-03T16:07:33  <aestetix> That is why.
2013-07-03T16:07:37  <oddball> Yes... the German branch of IBM supported Germany in WWII... shocking!
2013-07-03T16:09:34  <aestetix> Hmm.
2013-07-03T16:09:43  <aestetix> Is there a way to use that example (minus the IBM stuff) without invoking Godwin?
2013-07-03T16:09:51  <aestetix> Since it is actually a really solid example about privacy issues
2013-07-03T16:10:33  <oddball> Well, and we *used* to have some pretty hefty privacy laws aimed at the government... but then the government decided that the Constitution was this inconveniant peice of paper, and have largely managed to get the people to go along with it.
2013-07-03T16:10:59  <aestetix> well
2013-07-03T16:11:15  <aestetix> The issue is more that the NSA and other places can get around restrictions on them by sourcing projects to contractors
2013-07-03T16:11:23  <aestetix> Because subcontractors are not held to the same laws
2013-07-03T16:13:14  <rattle> I'm a bit confused...
2013-07-03T16:13:52  <rattle> I guess I'm not following this Egypt thing close enough...
2013-07-03T16:13:53  <aestetix> rattle: tell me something new
2013-07-03T16:14:10  <rattle> This is a military coup of a democratically elected president..  Right?
2013-07-03T16:14:19  <aestetix> rattle: that seems to be the case
2013-07-03T16:14:36  <oddball> rattle: Last I checked, the military is threatening a violent take over.
2013-07-03T16:14:39  <rattle> And that's being treated as a "good thing"?
2013-07-03T16:14:41  <aestetix> I guess the facebook revolution in egypt didn't stick
2013-07-03T16:15:02  <aestetix> Maybe Morsi was about to offer asylum to Snowden :p
2013-07-03T16:15:05  <rattle> Because, last I checked, military coups are not good things.
2013-07-03T16:15:19  <rattle> And democratically elected leaders are good things.
2013-07-03T16:15:27  <aestetix> well
2013-07-03T16:15:36  <aestetix> you could argue that the military democratically elected him
2013-07-03T16:15:36  <rattle> But we don't like this guy, so it's all ok?
2013-07-03T16:15:40  <aestetix> by using their guns as votes
2013-07-03T16:19:36  <aestetix> rattle: wasn't Saddam Hussein technical democratically elected?
2013-07-03T16:19:50  <aestetix> Albeit they would shoot you in the head if you didn't vote for him...
2013-07-03T16:22:49  <rattle> Ok?  So then the military rigged the election to get Morsy elected.  And now they had a coup to remove him.
2013-07-03T16:22:59  <rattle> No wonder I'm confused.
2013-07-03T16:27:11  <RangerZ> military didn't rig the elections for morsy
2013-07-03T16:27:15  <RangerZ> muslim brotherhood did
2013-07-03T16:27:32  <RangerZ> the egyptian military is mostly US trained, and have a close tie to the US
2013-07-03T16:27:57  <aestetix> wait
2013-07-03T16:28:03  <aestetix> so the US basically just overthrew egypt?
2013-07-03T16:28:06  <RangerZ> no
2013-07-03T16:28:08  <aestetix> .... again?
2013-07-03T16:28:22  <RangerZ> the people asked the military to overthrow morsey
2013-07-03T16:28:25  <RangerZ> and they did
2013-07-03T16:28:44  <RangerZ> close ties = not wanting to fuck with isreal, b/c they realize how BAD it would be for them
2013-07-03T16:28:57  <RangerZ> not... that they follow US commands
2013-07-03T16:29:22  <RangerZ> 14million people protesting in Egypt
2013-07-03T16:29:31  <RangerZ> US gov't didn't have SHIT to do with that
2013-07-03T16:29:44  <aestetix> wow you know a pizza place is fancy when you have to get a reservation
2013-07-03T16:29:56  <RangerZ> perhaps trying to 'spark' it via CIA, but thats covert, etc
2013-07-03T16:41:21  <Synx|hm> oh man the butcher did me a solid, there were hoards of people at the grocery clamming for meats to grill tomorrow, i called 4 hours ago and asked for some racks of beef back ribs, i got 3 HUGE racks while people were running around trying to get scraps that were already all seperated
2013-07-03T16:41:44  <Synx|hm> so stoked
2013-07-03T16:48:33  <rattle> The inventor of the mouse died.
2013-07-03T16:54:33  <Synx|hm> :(
2013-07-03T17:05:46  <rattle> Sounds like the Atlanta area just got hit hard by some storm.
2013-07-03T17:06:13  <rattle> My SOC guy just had his power go out.
2013-07-03T17:09:16  <Dagmar> Yep.
2013-07-03T17:09:40  <Dagmar> Ther'es another storm making it's way up the west side of Georgia now
2013-07-03T17:12:52  <rattle> ? and looks like the soc watch shift gets modified the day before a national holiday..  Greeeeat.
2013-07-03T17:15:20  <rattle> Turns out almost every metropolitan area I've lived in or spent any significant amount of time working in is on the list of the top ten most snobby cities in the US.  http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/03/travel/snobby-cities-usa/index.html?hpt=hp_bn1
2013-07-03T17:15:21  <GateKeeper> Title: Snobbiest cities in the U.S.A. - CNN.com (at www.cnn.com)
2013-07-03T17:15:31  <rattle> Finally, an excuse.
2013-07-03T17:27:03  <Dagmar> Goddamn
2013-07-03T17:30:09  <Dagmar> I'm just going to have to go with some color other than white for the LEDs if I expect to be able to have a black metal button switch for the stereo on my bike
2013-07-03T17:30:26  <Dagmar> Theoretically some Chinese company makes them, but they haven't apparently done a production run in some time
2013-07-03T18:33:25  <oddball> Dagmar: You know... maaaayyyyybe you shouldn't have bought an el-cheapo Chinese scooter.  Seems like you're constantly having to replace shit on it.
2013-07-03T18:33:29  <oddball> Just a thought.
2013-07-03T18:38:14  <RangerZ> wtf does any city in the south have for being snobbish ?
2013-07-03T18:38:31  <RangerZ>  Charleston, South Carolina... go home... you're drunk
2013-07-03T19:23:03  <aestetix> Is San Francisco on that list?
2013-07-03T19:23:05  * aestetix goes to look
2013-07-03T19:23:24  <aestetix> oh man it even got the photo
2013-07-03T19:44:02  <oddball> Are you surprised?
2013-07-03T19:59:24  <Dagmar> oddball: 1.  It's not an "el-cheepo".  2. You have *no* idea how careful I'm being with the paint job on this thing.
2013-07-03T20:00:43  <Dagmar> I could pay someone to "just fix it", sure, but it's a simple maintenance issue that I just haven't had time to deal with yet because painting is not the sort of thing I "just" spray on
2013-07-03T20:01:24  <oddball> Aren't you constantly having to fix the shitty electrical on that thing?
2013-07-03T20:01:30  <Dagmar> The thing would have been dead three times over by now if it were actually an el-cheapo
2013-07-03T20:01:31  <Dagmar> NOpe
2013-07-03T20:01:43  <Dagmar> This isn't electrical.  This is just gunk in the engine because it sat all winter
2013-07-03T20:01:47  <oddball> Ah, ok... I was thinking that's what you were talking about.
2013-07-03T20:02:09  <Dagmar> I am now replacing the bits in the front that are scuffed, bent, or otherwise mangled.
2013-07-03T20:02:31  <oddball> ahhhh
2013-07-03T20:02:34  <Dagmar> Also putting much longer rear-view mirror stalks on, which have also been enameled
2013-07-03T20:02:36  <oddball> I take it back then.
2013-07-03T20:02:41  <oddball> What brand is it again?
2013-07-03T20:02:42  <Dagmar> This is definitely upgrade territory
2013-07-03T20:02:51  <Dagmar> Kymco.  They're Taiwan
2013-07-03T20:03:15  <Dagmar> About the only electrical issues I've had have been murdering batteries in the winter
2013-07-03T20:03:35  <Dagmar> AGC batteries up and fucking die if they discharge and are then subsequently frozen
2013-07-03T20:03:51  <oddball> Didn't it also have an issue where the starter wasn't water resistant or something?
2013-07-03T20:04:31  <Dagmar> the kill switch isn't even IPx1
2013-07-03T20:04:40  <Dagmar> So... bird shit and spiders.
2013-07-03T20:05:04  <Dagmar> This is why I've been hunting high and low on the internet for an IP68 toggle that can fit in such shallow clearance
2013-07-03T20:05:43  <Dagmar> If I use the 16mm dia ones that there's about a million of online, the terminals will be firmly embedded in the handlebars, which is bound to pose some problems
2013-07-03T20:06:10  <Dagmar> THe starter realy did start shorting and fucked up the starter, but I have replacements here and that's not even 30 minutes to replace
2013-07-03T20:06:26  <Dagmar> I replaced the CDI because basically, it is in a bad location and got water in it
2013-07-03T20:06:45  <Dagmar> But keep in mind, I've actually *drowned* the damn thing in floodwater.  It still ran
2013-07-03T20:07:07  <Dagmar> I had to drain and relube the CVT a couple of times to be sure, but that's about it
2013-07-03T20:07:49  <oddball> cool
2013-07-03T20:07:55  <Dagmar> About the worst thing I can say about the bike is that the battery leads were eerily thin, but hell it's a 7A/12V system
2013-07-03T20:08:09  <Dagmar> The paint on it could have stand to actually been decent paint.
2013-07-03T20:08:18  <Dagmar> That's one of the things I'm rectifying
2013-07-03T20:08:36  <Dagmar> The new front farings and dash will likely be good for a decade
2013-07-03T20:08:59  <Dagmar> Damn this guy is trolling: https://picroma.com/
2013-07-03T20:09:00  <GateKeeper> Title: Picroma (at picroma.com)
2013-07-03T20:09:12  <Dagmar> "Store's still down, but you can drool over the tech demo if you want!"
2013-07-03T20:09:15  <Dagmar> grrr
2013-07-03T20:16:55  <Dagmar> Man I hope mushrooms grow year-round
2013-07-03T20:17:44  <Dagmar> The last changes to Gnomoria (as i'm sure Wilbur is learning) mean you'd better have a fuckton of wheat growing
2013-07-03T20:17:52  <Dagmar> All my livestock up and starved to death
2013-07-03T20:18:42  <oddball> Oh fuck... is that a game that has decided to lock into real world seasons?
2013-07-03T20:18:48  <Dagmar> I had to just set up new pens and spend a year without anything for the ranchers to do aside from skin goblins until I could get some larger farms going and buy new livestock from the traders
2013-07-03T20:18:56  <Dagmar> oddball: Gnomoria?  No
2013-07-03T20:19:01  <oddball> ok
2013-07-03T20:19:07  <Dagmar> Seasons are 12 days long
2013-07-03T20:19:22  <Dagmar> ...but livestock took up a lot less space and I had *way* too many animals
2013-07-03T20:19:31  <Dagmar> My last fortress I just started building everything out of bones
2013-07-03T20:19:50  <Dagmar> Two to five new animals were being born and slaughtered every game day
2013-07-03T20:20:03  <Dagmar> ....of all three types
2013-07-03T20:20:52  <Dagmar> Now I realize that maybe livestock probably shoudln't so heavily outnumber the gnomes.  They could never eat it all and the mant (antmen) invasions are tied to the amount of food you have, and they were getting ridiculous
2013-07-03T20:21:12  <oddball> Well, I guess that should grant you a morale bonus against seiges as the opposing force gets unnerved due to storming the castle of bone.
2013-07-03T20:21:29  <Dagmar> Don't need it
2013-07-03T20:21:42  <Dagmar> I've run through a few kingdoms now, and I'm used to playing Dwarf Fortress
2013-07-03T20:22:14  <Dagmar> I've got 39 gnomes, and of that 10 of them (two squads) are perpetually training, toting steel weapons now, and wearing steel breastplates
2013-07-03T20:22:45  <Dagmar> It's going to take a lot more steel to give them greaves, boots, gauntlets, and helms, but in the meantime they're all a bunch of murderous fiends like when you arm your dwarves with adamantium
2013-07-03T20:23:38  <Dagmar> I'm like frantically refactoring all the food production stuff because now you can make cheese from all the damn yak's milk, grow mushrooms, another ground crop, and another fruit tree
2013-07-03T20:23:52  <Dagmar> So, three new types of omelettes.  heh
2013-07-03T20:24:00  <Dagmar> No spoilage!
2013-07-03T20:24:39  <Dagmar> The two squads have their training grounds right behind the main entrance to the grounds
2013-07-03T20:24:45  <Dagmar> Any invaders get roflstomped
2013-07-03T20:25:24  <Dagmar> ...but considering the dippy little bastards make very poor decisions about running away when they see an enemy, and there's no _warrens_ to keep the idiots inside, I have to watch carefully for them still
2013-07-03T20:25:38  <Dagmar> I am trying to maintain zero casualties
2013-07-03T20:25:51  <Dagmar> Unlike DF, these guys don't even die of old age
2013-07-03T20:26:11  <Dagmar> It does break a _few_ mechanics, but I don't much care
2013-07-03T20:26:17  <Dagmar> Like, half the settlement can outrun everything
2013-07-03T20:27:03  <Dagmar> It just means they make great teamsters, because just like DF, there's a whole lot of moving shit from point A to point B to be done
2013-07-03T20:27:17  <Dagmar> ...and I can't rely on soon attracting 200 dwarves.
2013-07-03T20:27:52  <Dagmar> The highest I've seen so far was 62 gnomes
2013-07-03T20:28:23  <Dagmar> ...which is kind of a blessing because with DF at 200+ dwarves, you NEED a fucking spreadsheet app to keep them orderly
2013-07-03T20:28:50  <Dagmar> Dude made the right call by separating jobs and professions from the very start
2013-07-03T20:29:03  <Dagmar> DF needs to do that already
2013-07-03T20:30:03  <Dagmar> I have found a few very exploitable mechanics, too.  :)
2013-07-03T20:30:26  <Dagmar> Yer guys kill someone, they get a skillup immediately
2013-07-03T20:31:05  <Dagmar> Shields and weapons have a value, but it's affected by notoriety, so even a shitty sword becomes legendary after the gnome has killed 50-100 things with it
2013-07-03T20:31:42  <Dagmar> To see what would happen I took all the torches out of the deepest level and parked a squad at the chokepoint
2013-07-03T20:32:00  <Dagmar> Several times a day, skeletons or golems spawn and get roflmurdered
2013-07-03T20:32:35  <Dagmar> Meanwhile on the surface, the mants and goblins/ogres are fighting amongst each other and I just open the doors every so often to take the spoils.  :)
2013-07-03T20:32:50  <Dagmar> I've never seen it do more than 8 golems/skeletons at a time
2013-07-03T20:33:12  <Dagmar> Goblins and ogres tend to start there, and fifty fucking mants takes a *while* to chase down and kill them all
2013-07-03T20:33:50  <Dagmar> Beyond a certain point, they stop being suckered into fighting your guys and just run amok
2013-07-03T20:34:37  <Dagmar> ...and if you wildly overproduce food like I was doing before, you'll get that many, and *unlike* DF you can't just toss it down a hole and rinse it off the map
2013-07-03T20:34:56  <Dagmar> I am hoping it'll turn out that I can dump stuff into lava somehow
2013-07-03T20:36:19  <Dagmar> high-value settlements (like when I was mining goblinite) attract invasions that are half two-headed ogres, and that versus a gnome plays out like it *actually* would rather than how it plays out in a video game
2013-07-03T20:36:46  <Dagmar> It takes them a *while* to take the things down, and meanwhile someone still invariably gets steppedon and crushed to death, armor or not.  lol
2013-07-03T20:37:30  <Dagmar> I am no firmly glad he changed it so invaders come in wearing "worn" armor and gear that you can only turn into small amounts of incredibly valuable metal
2013-07-03T20:44:44  <Dagmar> Dayum... NSFW http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/sports/2013/07/03/vo-lingerie-football-league-hit.legends-football-league-lflus-com.html
2013-07-03T20:44:45  <GateKeeper> Title: Lingerie football 'stud' lays the boom - CNN.com Video (at www.cnn.com)
2013-07-03T20:53:26  <Dagmar> Wow CNN is really good for destruction porn today http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2013/06/21/dnt-arizona-bmw-drives-off-cliff.kpho.html
2013-07-03T20:53:27  <GateKeeper> Title: Watch BMW drive off a cliff - CNN.com Video (at www.cnn.com)
2013-07-03T20:53:41  <Dagmar> Dude can't drive
2013-07-03T20:55:37  <Dagmar> s/spammy/criminal/
2013-07-03T20:55:40  <Dagmar> wrong chan
2013-07-03T20:59:23  <RangerZ> Dagmar: damn... you don't even see hits that good in NFL anymore
2013-07-03T21:00:04  <Dagmar> Yeah that woman nearly got knocked out
2013-07-03T21:00:12  <Dagmar> *BLAM*
2013-07-03T22:03:00  <Evilpig_> me and comcast are about to have a go around
2013-07-03T22:03:05  <Evilpig_> http://business.comcast.com/smb/services/internet/plans
2013-07-03T22:03:06  <GateKeeper> Title: 69 95 per Month - Business Internet Plans, Business Internet Prices - Comcast Business (at business.comcast.com)
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2013-07-03T22:03:18  <Evilpig_> I'm on the bottom tier of service.  16/3Mbps
2013-07-03T22:03:34  <Evilpig_> 3Mbps = 384KBs
2013-07-03T22:03:48  <Evilpig_> http://blueboy.wilpig.org/mrtg/127.0.0.1_eth0.html
2013-07-03T22:03:52  <GateKeeper> Title: Traffic Analysis for eth0 -- blueboy.wilpig.org (at blueboy.wilpig.org)
2013-07-03T22:04:00  <Evilpig_> I'm very clearly hard capped at 1.5Mbps
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2013-07-03T22:36:30  <RangerZ> Evilpig_: damn it... thats what i'm paying for 10/1.5 or w/e I'm suppose to be getting
2013-07-03T22:36:38  <RangerZ> but i can't get business
2013-07-03T22:37:15  <Evilpig_> why can't you get business?
2013-07-03T22:37:22  <Evilpig_> it's the only way to get a static ip
2013-07-03T22:52:17  <Dagmar> eheheheh http://imgur.com/gallery/2gBs7hi
2013-07-03T22:52:18  <GateKeeper> Title: Mister Prrrrresident! - Imgur (at imgur.com)
2013-07-03T22:54:41  <Evilpig_> Dagmar: http://www.ingress.com/intel?ll=36.141833,-86.796328&z=17&pll=36.141833,-86.796328
2013-07-03T22:54:42  <GateKeeper> Title: Ingress (at www.ingress.com)
2013-07-03T22:54:47  <Evilpig_> some jerk knocked all the shields off again
2013-07-03T22:58:32  <Evilpig_> Dagmar: pat and sherman talking about going to a strip club.  this is kinda wirding me out
2013-07-03T22:58:35  <Evilpig_> weirding*
2013-07-03T23:11:49  <RangerZ> comcast says they can't give me those speeds there
2013-07-03T23:12:01  <RangerZ> eventhough i pay the same $
2013-07-03T23:32:34  <Dagmar> hehe