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2013-06-19T02:56:38  <RangerZ1> god... "2012" the movie... made Day After Tomorrow look like a Carl Sagan production
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2013-06-19T05:16:26  <aestetix> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKgf5PaBzyg
2013-06-19T05:16:27  <GateKeeper> Title: How To Uninstall McAfee Antivirus - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
2013-06-19T05:31:33  <Evilpig> this had better involve fire
2013-06-19T05:32:24  <Evilpig> delivered on fire.  check
2013-06-19T05:37:09  <Evilpig> haha.  Thanks to Portland's club exotica for providing the technical talent
2013-06-19T05:46:55  <aestetix> sweet, I just got my sealand application
2013-06-19T05:47:12  <aestetix> I'm applying to be a citizen so they'll issue me an ID card
2013-06-19T05:47:16  <Evilpig> you contemplating becoming a pirate?
2013-06-19T05:47:34  <aestetix> haha
2013-06-19T05:47:46  <aestetix> actually, once I get my ID card, I want to see how many places will let me in using it
2013-06-19T05:47:51  <aestetix> IE getting carded at bars, etc
2013-06-19T05:48:00  <aestetix> I *really* wanna see how the TSA will respond to it
2013-06-19T05:48:30  <Evilpig> hrmm.  25 euros for an id eh?
2013-06-19T05:48:45  <aestetix> yep
2013-06-19T05:49:55  <Evilpig> well it is a valid state issued ID
2013-06-19T05:50:07  <aestetix> I agree
2013-06-19T05:50:23  <aestetix> it's worth noting they also sell passports
2013-06-19T05:50:25  <Evilpig> "ID cards are numbered and non-transferable; their validity is limited and renewable. The term of validity is 5 years. All ID issued by the Principality of Sealand remain the property of the state."
2013-06-19T05:51:08  <aestetix> huh mayube they don't anymore
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2013-06-19T07:33:00  <Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
2013-06-19T07:33:44  <Evilpig> get to testing
2013-06-19T07:33:57  <Evilpig> I expect that to take a while onyour number of devices
2013-06-19T07:39:25  <Dolemite> I'm sure it will
2013-06-19T07:40:01  <Evilpig> for the final release i'm considering rolling them into batches of say 50 at a time?
2013-06-19T07:40:38  <Evilpig> it will be trivial to modify the actual submission bit to do that.
2013-06-19T07:40:50  <Dolemite> I'll download and play with it today
2013-06-19T07:44:11  <Evilpig> oye.  I see we have a new user and appears to be russian
2013-06-19T07:44:56  <Dolemite> vhere do you keep ze new clee yur vessels?
2013-06-19T07:45:13  <Evilpig> I'll answer him.  give me 30 sec to find the right correction for him
2013-06-19T07:51:39  * Evilpig waits for the smartassed answer to disseminate
2013-06-19T07:55:06  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
2013-06-19T07:55:13  <Evilpig> grind on him a little too
2013-06-19T07:55:26  <aestetix> how do I do that?
2013-06-19T07:55:32  <aestetix> Dolemite: can you teach me?
2013-06-19T07:56:18  <Evilpig> how is modern day slavery different from the former?
2013-06-19T07:56:35  <Dolemite> Ha!  The "I read the requirements method"
2013-06-19T07:56:40  <Evilpig> is there a group that meets up to trade?  can you still buy them on an open market somewhere?
2013-06-19T07:56:56  <eryc> the welfare office
2013-06-19T07:57:22  <eryc> also, 7-11
2013-06-19T07:57:39  <Evilpig> Our russian was having a problem where his webserver kicked back a warning that displayed in the browser so I answered him with three possible fixes.
2013-06-19T07:57:42  <Evilpig> Fix #1 (Preferred method):  Set PHP to hide the errors or silently log them to a file
2013-06-19T07:57:45  <Evilpig> Fix #2 (I read the requirements method):  Enable SSL for your installation
2013-06-19T07:57:48  <Evilpig> Fix #3 : Change line 121 of configuration.php to  $href.=(isset($_SERVER['HTTPS']))?'https://':'http://';
2013-06-19T07:58:14  <aestetix> tell him to enable register_globals
2013-06-19T07:58:17  <eryc> i just use // now to prefix urls
2013-06-19T07:58:28  <eryc> but everything local should be relative pathed
2013-06-19T07:58:51  <Evilpig> I forget why I had that there, and I did it a bad way to start with anyhow
2013-06-19T07:59:08  <Evilpig> one of those things to go back and fix later, but it works for now
2013-06-19T07:59:18  <eryc> ahem
2013-06-19T07:59:27  <eryc> don't lie, it's permanent now
2013-06-19T07:59:41  <Dolemite> I don't remember, because originally I had it check for HTTPS and refuse to continue further if it wasn't
2013-06-19T07:59:42  <Evilpig> nah.  I'm actually pretty good about going back and fixing shit when I remember
2013-06-19T07:59:54  <Dolemite> It's the remember part that's tricky
2013-06-19T08:00:05  <Evilpig> yeah but I don't use ssl at home or on my devbox and I commented out that line long ago
2013-06-19T08:00:11  <eryc> i use Asana to remember
2013-06-19T08:00:12  <Evilpig> so ssl is recommended but not required
2013-06-19T08:00:42  <eryc> or in this case a github ticket would suffice
2013-06-19T08:00:52  <Evilpig> Let's see if this name will paste
2013-06-19T08:00:54  <Evilpig> Павел Слюнин
2013-06-19T08:01:02  <Evilpig> apparently so
2013-06-19T08:01:15  <Evilpig> aestetix: I need a pronuciation, stat
2013-06-19T08:01:41  <eryc> neighbor cronie
2013-06-19T08:02:04  <aestetix> Evilpig: before I tell you, you must swear allegiance to the communist party
2013-06-19T08:02:12  <eryc> zig heil!
2013-06-19T08:02:32  * Evilpig loves stalin!
2013-06-19T08:02:39  * Evilpig loves mother Russia!
2013-06-19T08:03:14  <eryc> In communist Russia, stalin loves your mother.
2013-06-19T08:03:29  <aestetix> hahaha
2013-06-19T08:03:41  <Evilpig> brb gotta step into the datacenter to set off many bursters and force these clowns to recharge mayborn
2013-06-19T08:04:08  <aestetix> In soviet russia, you mother slips bananas into hookers asses
2013-06-19T08:09:19  <Evilpig> ahh that feels good.  no more shields on mayborn
2013-06-19T08:11:07  <Dolemite> Evilpig: I invoked the wrath of all Knoxville area frogs last night.  In a big way.  You would be proud.
2013-06-19T08:12:43  <Evilpig> I'm still seeing notices of portals we capture when we were there.  kinda odd
2013-06-19T08:13:00  <Dolemite> They had set up an L7 portal out in the middle of nowhere and put a +12 multi-hack and 3 x Very Rare heat sinks on it.  You could hack it 16 times in 15 minutes.
2013-06-19T08:13:13  <Dolemite> So I hacked it 16 times and then blew it up last night.
2013-06-19T08:13:29  <Evilpig> yeah i'd hunt you down for that probably
2013-06-19T08:13:40  <Dolemite> Evilpig: Pastywhite and Snipehunter have left them alone so that tourists can have something to farm
2013-06-19T08:14:05  <Dolemite> Evilpig: The frogs up here, though, are more like the smurfs in Nashville
2013-06-19T08:14:15  <Evilpig> Dagmar said he heard word from teh smurfs that our constant portal attacks are become a major nuisance
2013-06-19T08:14:20  <Dolemite> They would converge on any portal you took and take it back within 15 minutes
2013-06-19T08:16:59  <Dolemite> The nice thing about it, though, is that I farmed more out of it than it took to bring it down
2013-06-19T08:17:26  <Dolemite> picked up 3 L7 power cubes and only had to recharge once (I used lower level ones)
2013-06-19T08:21:00  <Evilpig> I took out a lvl8 farm, shielded and linked out the ass yesterday without using a single power cube.  ;)
2013-06-19T08:22:04  <Evilpig> alright.  getting outta here.  gonna go farm a little and head home
2013-06-19T08:56:52  <Dagmar> Evilpig: THat's wildly overstating it
2013-06-19T09:10:11  <Evilpig> Dagmar: alright then call it foreshadowing
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2013-06-19T10:06:25  <Synx|hm> morning peeps
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2013-06-19T10:09:14  <Synx|hm> nice... http://prism-break.org
2013-06-19T10:09:15  <GateKeeper> Title: Opt out of PRISM, the NSAs global data surveillance program - PRISM BREAK (at prism-break.org)
2013-06-19T10:22:14  <jim_ec2> i saw that site the other day
2013-06-19T10:22:46  <jim_ec2> using open source doesn't automatically preclude you from nsa spying
2013-06-19T10:32:33  <Synx|hm> oh indeed
2013-06-19T10:32:43  <Synx|hm> but its a good start to lots of open projects that are trying to protect privacy
2013-06-19T10:33:03  <Synx|hm> also i love duckduckgo and what they are doing
2013-06-19T10:33:37  <Synx|hm> as an aside id like to switch to opennic DNS but they dont support DNSCrypt, so whats the point if my ISP can still see all my querys
2013-06-19T10:34:36  <Synx|hm> (i understand they will still see the resulting traffic to what ever website i choose to visit, but i'm more concerned with the idea here.  so for example im using TOR and somehow a DNS query leaks out)
2013-06-19T10:35:16  * Synx|hm wonders how many exit nodes the NSA operates
2013-06-19T11:01:21  <jim_ec2> lol yeah and if you are browsing http w/ cookies you are still just as easily tracked
2013-06-19T11:01:50  <jim_ec2> the navy developed tor in the first place
2013-06-19T11:02:39  <jim_ec2> one would wonder why the navy would need it, wouldn't they use only securable connections(presumably vpn)
2013-06-19T11:02:43  * Evilpig browses with cookies all the time.  There are probably enough crumbs in his keyboard to make an entire chips ahoy.
2013-06-19T11:03:45  <jim_ec2> lol
2013-06-19T11:06:04  <jim_ec2> LOL the state department helps fund tor
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2013-06-19T11:20:18  <Corydon76-work> Not sure why that's a surprise.  Tor helps dissidents in foreign countries
2013-06-19T11:24:05  <Dolemite> Evilpig: I'm sure there are enough crumbs in your underwear to make a brownie
2013-06-19T11:28:34  <jim_ec2> oh I was thinking they don't want us to know what they are doing online :)
2013-06-19T11:34:48  <Synx|hm> im curious how the initial presentation from DARPA went for the need for TOR
2013-06-19T11:35:47  <Synx|hm> perhaps a way for cyber command (what ever the department was then) to generate attacks
2013-06-19T11:41:43  <Corydon76-work> There's no advantage to using Tor to generate attacks; the exit node can simply be blocked by the target
2013-06-19T11:42:16  <Synx|hm> true but couldn't it help keep the identify of the attacker hidden?
2013-06-19T11:42:44  <Synx|hm> and you can probably hop exit nodes quite often
2013-06-19T11:43:37  <Corydon76-work> That only works if your target is also dependent upon tor
2013-06-19T11:44:01  <Corydon76-work> and yes, it'll keep the identity hidden, or at least provide plausible deniability
2013-06-19T11:46:13  <Corydon76-work> But the Chinese will block Tor nodes as quickly as they're discovered.  The goal is to provide a lot of exit nodes that fly under their radar, because it means a black net of communications can be established in places like China
2013-06-19T11:46:29  <Corydon76-work> darknet, excuse me
2013-06-19T11:47:52  <Corydon76-work> Tor means that intelligence assets can communicate back to the various spy agencies without worrying that their communications will be traced back to them
2013-06-19T11:48:42  <Synx|hm> ahh great point intel, did't think of that DUH
2013-06-19T11:48:45  <Synx|hm> its a spy network
2013-06-19T11:51:08  <Skiboy> Corydon76-work: I think that the feds have infiltrated tor already, though
2013-06-19T11:51:34  <Corydon76-work> Skiboy:  I think you have no idea what you're talking about
2013-06-19T11:53:14  <Skiboy> maybe not, but wouldn't the feds want to at least run some exit nodes?
2013-06-19T11:53:16  <Corydon76-work> Unless your closest node is compromised, the feds running 99% of nodes means nothing to your anonymity
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2013-06-19T12:16:14  <RangerZ1> Skiboy: feds car watch exit nodes, but its not possible to watch every single node in the US and record all the traffic.... i mean....
2013-06-19T12:16:19  <RangerZ1> can* watch
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2013-06-19T12:36:08  <notlarry> Evilpig: what was the nagios/cacti replacement you were talking about?
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2013-06-19T13:31:23  <Dagmar> skiboy: Rest assured that the feds DO run some exit nodes, if for no other reason than non-technical middle managers are likely to declare at any time that running an exit node will allow them to sniff everything, and then the people running the exit node can say "No it doesn't.  It gets us this much, which is next to useless for what you've got in mind."
2013-06-19T13:33:29  <aestetix> Skiboy: yep
2013-06-19T13:33:49  <aestetix> Skiboy: this is why you run encryption on the data you send over Tor
2013-06-19T13:34:08  <Dagmar> aestetix++
2013-06-19T13:34:39  <RangerZ> i'm actually in favor of google's suggestion of running everything on the web (even plain websites) at a lower lvl of encryption such as 100bit or so
2013-06-19T13:34:47  <aestetix> Tor can be used to mask point of origin, but not actual content.
2013-06-19T13:34:47  <RangerZ> not 'impossible' to crack
2013-06-19T13:34:49  <Dagmar> When did they suggests this?
2013-06-19T13:34:54  <RangerZ> years ago
2013-06-19T13:35:07  <RangerZ> but makes 'mass collection' a mother fucking bitch
2013-06-19T13:35:33  <Dagmar> I can see how it might be useful, but it definitely seems odd
2013-06-19T13:35:38  <Dagmar> We've definitely got methods that are lightweight enough to be ubiquitous without adding notable overhead now
2013-06-19T13:35:54  <RangerZ> yeah
2013-06-19T13:36:11  <Dagmar> I can't imagine the repercussions from giving spook agencies a "love tap in the nuts" like that would be very pleasant tho
2013-06-19T13:36:11  <RangerZ> just SSL handshake, then use double DES or something
2013-06-19T13:36:25  <RangerZ> which would be silly
2013-06-19T13:36:27  <RangerZ> but 'ehh'
2013-06-19T13:36:38  <RangerZ> yeah... NSA probably didn't like that suggestion
2013-06-19T13:36:40  <Dagmar> triple xor.  ;)
2013-06-19T13:36:45  <aestetix> heh
2013-06-19T13:37:06  <RangerZ> (2s DES is really insecure)
2013-06-19T13:37:07  <RangerZ> btw
2013-06-19T13:37:17  <RangerZ> thats why they went to 3x
2013-06-19T13:37:36  <aestetix> Skiboy: I don't remember which one, but there was an embassy that used Tor to log into some government servers at one point. And the person running the exit node logged all the traffic, and proceeded to post the logins to a zine.
2013-06-19T13:37:39  <RangerZ> hell, now i'd say just use SSL, with 128b AES
2013-06-19T13:38:03  <Dagmar> People experimentally snooping on an exit node like that is common now
2013-06-19T13:38:15  <RangerZ> yeah
2013-06-19T13:38:39  <aestetix> If you're really paranoid, ssh tunnel over Tor
2013-06-19T13:38:40  <Dagmar> the majority reaction I hear is "Apparently people use TOR to evade oppressive governent controls to communicate about porn"
2013-06-19T13:38:58  <Dagmar> ...but the web as a whole is like 70% porno anyway.  People just keep their eyes shut to it
2013-06-19T13:39:33  <RangerZ> If i run for congress, I'd play "the internet is for porn" video
2013-06-19T13:39:36  <RangerZ> ;) lol
2013-06-19T13:39:42  <Dagmar> I remember the embassy guy posting about how many people were using ToR for diplomatic stuff, but were still using fuckin' POP (unencrypted, not even sPOP) for their emails and stuff over it
2013-06-19T13:39:44  <RangerZ> (not really... but would be amusing)
2013-06-19T13:39:48  <aestetix> RangerZ: I would vote for you
2013-06-19T13:40:06  <RangerZ> Actually... I've thought up an evil idea
2013-06-19T13:40:12  <RangerZ> have my mom run a super pac for me
2013-06-19T13:40:20  <RangerZ> and then do a kickstarter
2013-06-19T13:40:22  <Dagmar> Embed your secret communications inside of pornography?
2013-06-19T13:40:24  <Dagmar> Been there, done that
2013-06-19T13:40:28  <Dagmar> Oh
2013-06-19T13:40:37  <RangerZ> where I'd donate all that money to the superPAc
2013-06-19T13:40:40  <RangerZ> LOL
2013-06-19T13:40:51  <RangerZ> "help me not have to beg corporations for money"
2013-06-19T13:41:21  <RangerZ> "I'll go there to be on the science and technology committee, to end cable/telco monopolies"
2013-06-19T13:41:25  <Dagmar> I was considering making a big thing about "recycling porno" for Phreaknic but I couldn't find any way to work the subject that didn't sound like "HAI GUISE!  LEWK AT HOW MUCH PORNO I DOWNLODED!"
2013-06-19T13:41:29  <RangerZ> basically tech issues
2013-06-19T13:41:48  <RangerZ> @Dagmar, just use the 'lena' pic
2013-06-19T13:41:50  <RangerZ> from playboy
2013-06-19T13:42:03  <Dagmar> 20Gb of porn, properly folded, makes a damn fine OTP DVD image
2013-06-19T13:42:05  <RangerZ> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenna
2013-06-19T13:42:06  <GateKeeper> Title: Lenna - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
2013-06-19T13:42:18  <RangerZ> its only 512x512
2013-06-19T13:42:20  <RangerZ> but ehh
2013-06-19T13:42:24  <Dagmar> ...and someone could communicate that in an open channel just by handing someone a list of porn URLs
2013-06-19T13:43:17  <Dickie> I am open to communication...
2013-06-19T13:43:22  <Dagmar> lol
2013-06-19T13:43:33  <RangerZ> Dagmar: i've seem some good research out of westpoint that would baffle even the NSA
2013-06-19T13:44:03  <RangerZ> b/c its a 'one time pad' type solution for embedding data into an image
2013-06-19T13:44:10  <Dagmar> Most of the best stuff just hinges on finding a novel way to create a problem of massive computational complexity
2013-06-19T13:44:20  <RangerZ> stenography* (there i couldn't think of the name,... lol)
2013-06-19T13:44:29  <Dagmar> steganography
2013-06-19T13:44:45  <Dagmar> Stenography is the thing the court reporters do with the funky typewriter
2013-06-19T13:45:01  <RangerZ> yeah, but anyways, thats not really true about the complexity
2013-06-19T13:45:05  <Dagmar> Which... welll... nevermind
2013-06-19T13:45:32  <RangerZ> you need an 'impossible to crack' algorithm without having the key
2013-06-19T13:45:37  <RangerZ> and one time pad is it
2013-06-19T13:45:57  <Dagmar> Building your OTP out of data they won't look at is a handy wedge
2013-06-19T13:46:23  <Dagmar> Imagine Iranian spooks trying to explain why they need to download half a terabyte off of porn.com or something
2013-06-19T13:46:53  <Dagmar> ...or any intelligence agency, for that matter, especially since they'll then need archive it
2013-06-19T13:46:56  <Skiboy> porn.com is probably a pretty expensive domain name.
2013-06-19T13:47:01  <RangerZ> benefit of OTP for stena. is that you can hide all the key locations with a simple password put into hash, that determines which bits to XOR
2013-06-19T13:47:15  <RangerZ> nah... now we have porn.xxx
2013-06-19T13:47:16  <RangerZ> lol
2013-06-19T13:47:27  <Skiboy> porn.cum?
2013-06-19T13:47:38  <Dagmar> It occurs to me I'll have to pull up porn.xxx when I get home
2013-06-19T13:47:39  <RangerZ> so you have 2 factor authentication with that scheme
2013-06-19T13:47:48  <Dagmar> I've never even bothered to think about what might have been set up there
2013-06-19T13:48:14  <Skiboy> defcon owns defcon.xxx...
2013-06-19T13:48:28  <Dagmar> I can imagine how the justification for that went
2013-06-19T13:48:33  <Skiboy> I don't think they're actually using it, though.
2013-06-19T13:48:38  <Dagmar> "Do you want to keep running .xxx or not?"
2013-06-19T13:49:02  <Skiboy> so, no nude pics of Vanna Vinyl or LadyAda
2013-06-19T13:50:31  <Skiboy> lol.  Terrorists don't know how to use computers.
2013-06-19T13:50:33  <RangerZ> Lady Ada would be sexy in those 1800s cloths
2013-06-19T13:51:03  <Skiboy> Well, the Tamil Tigers did, but they're pretty much wiped out now.
2013-06-19T13:52:26  <Skiboy> defcon.xxx will probably be devoted to teledildonics
2013-06-19T13:53:13  <Dagmar> Doubt it
2013-06-19T13:53:30  <Dagmar> No one wants to hear whining about the possibility that someone might be raped by a webcam
2013-06-19T13:53:57  * Skiboy duct tapes a fleshlight to a Roomba
2013-06-19T13:54:30  <Dagmar> That reminds me I still need to repair my goddamn roomba
2013-06-19T13:54:54  <Dagmar> If they ever design one I can put in the goddamn dishwasher I'll be happy
2013-06-19T13:54:56  <Skiboy> lol.  Did you learn not to stick your penis in it ;0
2013-06-19T13:55:06  <Dagmar> No, it's a matter of I have dust allergies.
2013-06-19T13:55:12  <Skiboy> ah
2013-06-19T13:55:17  <Dagmar> So... automatic cleaning by a little robot appeals to me greatly.
2013-06-19T13:55:41  <oddball> My problem is that the dirt tray is tiny.
2013-06-19T13:55:50  <Dagmar> ...except that every so often something will come loose somewhere and it'll only run in circles and then I have to field-strip the NOW UNBELIEVABLY FILTHY ROBOT in order to fix it
2013-06-19T13:56:01  <Dagmar> oddball: Run the motherfucker every day
2013-06-19T13:56:08  <Dagmar> Empty it every day.
2013-06-19T13:56:21  <Skiboy> get one of those scoobas
2013-06-19T13:56:23  <oddball> When I was using it, I did.
2013-06-19T13:56:32  <Skiboy> Might help with dust
2013-06-19T13:56:32  <Dagmar> By the time the damn thing needs a maintenance, I have to wear a mask and then wash my hands up to my goddamn elbows when I'm done
2013-06-19T13:56:39  <oddball> Of course, the battery completely died on me a while back.
2013-06-19T13:57:08  <Skiboy> protip: the roomba has a programming port under the lid.
2013-06-19T13:57:22  <Dagmar> Hell it's right on the side of mine
2013-06-19T13:57:26  <oddball> But I'd still have to empty it at least once in the middle of it doing its job.
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2013-06-19T13:57:58  <Dagmar> oddball: Sounds like you need to vacuum the shit out of your place once or twice before going over to roomba
2013-06-19T13:58:00  <Skiboy> It's worse if you have 3 dogs like I do.
2013-06-19T13:58:00  <Synx|hm> you guys have hardwood floors or carpet with the roomba?
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2013-06-19T13:58:08  <Dagmar> Synx: Boht.
2013-06-19T13:58:10  <oddball> Dagmar: I think it's called 5 cats.
2013-06-19T13:58:13  <Skiboy> It works better on carpet.
2013-06-19T13:58:17  <oddball> carpet
2013-06-19T13:58:18  <Synx|hm> does it go on the carpet too?
2013-06-19T13:58:19  <Dagmar> oddball: Okay, so laminate the cats.
2013-06-19T13:58:23  <oddball> well, mostly carpet
2013-06-19T13:58:27  <Dagmar> Synx: Yes, but not _black_ carpet
2013-06-19T13:58:33  <Synx|hm> maybe i should consider getting on
2013-06-19T13:58:34  <Synx|hm> one
2013-06-19T13:58:46  <Dagmar> I had to use some tape to half blind mine.
2013-06-19T13:58:49  <Synx|hm> hows it do with cat toys though
2013-06-19T13:58:55  <Skiboy> like a horse
2013-06-19T13:59:12  <Dagmar> It would occasionally wander onto my area carpets and stop, clearly going "OH FUCK I'M IN MIDAIR"
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2013-06-19T13:59:42  <Dagmar> There really could stand to be a setting for "I have no fucking stairs so stop worrying about finding some."
2013-06-19T14:00:19  <Skiboy> oh snap
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2013-06-19T14:00:27  <Skiboy> They have one for hardwood now.
2013-06-19T14:00:30  <Skiboy> http://www.irobot.com/en/us/learn/home/Mint.aspx
2013-06-19T14:00:31  <GateKeeper> Title: iRobot Mint Automatic Floor Cleaner - Overview (at www.irobot.com)
2013-06-19T14:00:48  <Dagmar> synx: The things ride like 1/4 inch off the ground, so it's not really like it's going to be able to suck them up
2013-06-19T14:00:48  <Dagmar> The sensor bar around them is really picky about backing off if it bumps into anything
2013-06-19T14:00:56  <Dagmar> THey've had one for hardwoods for a long time now
2013-06-19T14:01:08  <Dagmar> It's just a regular roomba
2013-06-19T14:01:40  <Dagmar> You're not running any roomba if you have any of that three-inch-deep shag from the seventies in your place
2013-06-19T14:01:50  <Skiboy> nah, it mops with swiffer wet wipes.
2013-06-19T14:02:01  <Skiboy> Totally different
2013-06-19T14:02:03  <Dagmar> berber and regular shag and "plain old flat" floors they're mostly fine with
2013-06-19T14:02:47  <Synx|hm> but i have an obsession with my Kirby i love it so much its a pleasure to vaccume with it
2013-06-19T14:02:49  <Dagmar> THe one complaint I have about htem is long-haired hippies
2013-06-19T14:03:20  <Dagmar> There's a spinning brush that goes out and in theory sweeps out the very corners where the wall meets the floor
2013-06-19T14:03:42  <Dagmar> It is NOTORIOUS for picking up long hairs, which then wind up wrapping around the entire thing and fouling up horriblky
2013-06-19T14:24:56  <Synx|hm> ...
2013-06-19T14:36:41  <RangerZ> @dagmar, dyson just came out with something to cover that
2013-06-19T14:37:03  <RangerZ> i think it just creates a really focused strong suction at the far edge
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2013-06-19T15:07:12  <RangerZ> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130619/10213023529/fbi-admits-to-using-drones-to-spy-americans.shtml
2013-06-19T15:07:13  <GateKeeper> Title: FBI Admits To Using Drones To Spy On Americans | Techdirt (at www.techdirt.com)
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2013-06-19T15:08:47  <Synx|hm> so ya we got that going for us
2013-06-19T15:10:01  <Synx|hm> every day i get a new list of emails that piles up higher and higher i cant get out from under this mound of shit
2013-06-19T15:12:21  <Synx|hm> doesn't help traveling all week last week and again next week
2013-06-19T16:19:06  <RangerZ> "Microsoft has single-handedly alienated the entire military," naval aviator Jay Johnson wrote in a Gamasutra piece. "And not just the U.S. military--the militaries of the entire world."
2013-06-19T16:19:30  <RangerZ> If I were SONY.. I'd put aside 10k, PS4s and donate them to USO or something
2013-06-19T16:20:19  <RangerZ> "here, since we know you want to play games while deployed, and on breaks, here you go....." *snickers heard from 500 ft away, as sony laughs all the way to the bank, and IRS gift donation writeoff*
2013-06-19T16:20:20  <RangerZ> lol
2013-06-19T16:21:07  <oddball> Why?  When they know that the military is going to buy them?
2013-06-19T16:21:27  <RangerZ> PR
2013-06-19T16:21:29  <RangerZ> thats all
2013-06-19T16:21:35  <RangerZ> just rub MSFT's nose in it
2013-06-19T16:21:38  <RangerZ> get free publicity
2013-06-19T16:22:04  <RangerZ> and servicemen will buy enough games in the long run to make up for it, plus the tax writeoff
2013-06-19T16:23:30  <RangerZ> ok, only 500 units then if 10k is too much $
2013-06-19T16:23:31  <RangerZ> but still
2013-06-19T16:24:09  <RangerZ> if I was sony's president, i'd personally send a unit to every sub commander world wide...
2013-06-19T16:24:24  <RangerZ> LOL, but I'm a dick like that
2013-06-19T16:33:42  <RangerZ> yeah, looks like we've only had ~800 subs ever in the US military
2013-06-19T16:33:48  <RangerZ> including captured Uboats.....
2013-06-19T16:33:55  <RangerZ> so thats what I would do, lol
2013-06-19T16:57:56  <Dagmar> "HI THERE.  WE'RE A GIANT CORPORATION WHOLLY HOMED IN A FORIEGN NATION OF ASIANS AND WE'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU LARGE BLACK BOXES TO PUT IN ALL OF YOUR TOP SECRET WARSHIPS."
2013-06-19T16:58:10  <Dagmar> Yep.  That'll go over great.
2013-06-19T16:58:47  <Dagmar> Folks got wiggy about Huwaei and cell phones to the point where Huwaei up and said "Fuck you roundeyes"
2013-06-19T16:59:42  <Dagmar> Sony could definitely get away with saying "25% discount for deployed service members shipping to bases"
2013-06-19T17:06:47  <RangerZ> HAHAHA
2013-06-19T17:06:48  <RangerZ> don't know if you were following this or not.. http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/06/rumor-microsoft-set-to-reverse-controversial-game-licensing-policies/ but hilarious to see such a backlash
2013-06-19T17:06:49  <GateKeeper> Title: Microsoft reverses controversial game licensing policies [Updated] | Ars Technica (at arstechnica.com)
2013-06-19T17:12:52  <Skiboy> just lost mah jorb
2013-06-19T17:13:34  <Synx|hm> :(
2013-06-19T17:15:00  <jim_ec2> Skiboy: lame sauce
2013-06-19T17:20:32  <Skiboy> meh, it's ok.
2013-06-19T17:20:40  <Skiboy> I worked at Wal-Mart
2013-06-19T17:21:34  <Skiboy> A customer insulted me, and I said "I do a damn good job"
2013-06-19T17:21:43  <Skiboy> And then they fired me
2013-06-19T17:22:13  <jim_ec2> oh yeah fuck walmart
2013-06-19T17:22:19  <jim_ec2> not worth your time
2013-06-19T17:22:47  <RangerZ> actually
2013-06-19T17:23:06  <RangerZ> walmart gets 9k$ worth of subsidies to employ you
2013-06-19T17:23:40  <Skiboy> lol they walked me out.  I was totally chill, and I said "why are you walking me out?  I'm totally not angry."
2013-06-19T17:24:06  <jim_ec2> walk right back in as acustomer lolol
2013-06-19T17:24:38  <RangerZ> via you earning so little, you usually qualify for food assistance , etc
2013-06-19T17:24:40  <jim_ec2> RangerZ: thats so stupid, that's easily 30% of most their employee's wage
2013-06-19T17:24:48  <jim_ec2> oh yeah yeah
2013-06-19T17:25:09  <RangerZ> CALI has actually passed a new law
2013-06-19T17:25:11  <RangerZ> to fight that
2013-06-19T17:25:18  <RangerZ> will fine companies 9$k per employee like that
2013-06-19T17:25:23  <jim_ec2> that's their big scheme, cheap as possible labor
2013-06-19T17:25:27  <RangerZ> if they have more than 30 employees or something
2013-06-19T17:25:46  <Skiboy> joke's on them.
2013-06-19T17:26:17  <Skiboy> I was the only person who worked in the electronics section and actually knew about electronics.
2013-06-19T17:26:42  <RangerZ> can't find link to it
2013-06-19T17:26:47  <RangerZ> but it was going around a few weeks ago
2013-06-19T17:26:53  <Skiboy> And I was the only one working that shift in the electronics section when they fired me
2013-06-19T17:26:57  <Skiboy> ololololol
2013-06-19T17:27:03  <RangerZ> nope, joke is on future customers
2013-06-19T17:27:13  <RangerZ> who will pay 60$ for a 10ft HDMI cable
2013-06-19T17:27:14  <RangerZ> etc
2013-06-19T17:27:28  <jim_ec2> lol
2013-06-19T17:27:33  <Skiboy> lol my boss' las name was Boner
2013-06-19T17:27:40  <Skiboy> ololololol
2013-06-19T17:27:45  <jim_ec2> i intentionally don't shop at walmart
2013-06-19T17:28:08  <Skiboy> I only buy ammo there
2013-06-19T17:30:17  <jim_ec2> yeah, I go to academy for that most of the time
2013-06-19T17:30:32  <aestetix> http://i.imgur.com/ZbL9ZTD.jpg
2013-06-19T17:30:38  <aestetix> this is a great image to show anyone who is racist
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2013-06-19T20:19:27  <eryc> http://m.funnyordie.com/videos/14dc1b13fa/sexy-nsa-commercial-with-sasha-grey
2013-06-19T20:19:28  <GateKeeper> Title: Sexy NSA Commercial With Sasha Grey from Sasha Grey, Ryan Perez, Funny Or Die, Brian Lane, Chris Poole, Parker Seaman, Barats and Bereta, Melissa Gould McNeely, and BoTown Sound (at m.funnyordie.com)
2013-06-19T21:13:39  <Dagmar> Dayum
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