2013-06-09T00:01:25  <Corydon76-home> Nashville Pride is going on all day next Saturday at Riverfront Park...
2013-06-09T00:01:38  <jonnyx> "The Good Reverend, in no particular order - blasts bad sci-fi (and offers suggestions for good stuff you might have missed - authors/creators take note!); discusses the joys and terrors of running various conventions of various sizes; plays devil's advocate in defending copyright infringement in specific cases (with a focus on music and literature); possibly segues (time allowing) into getting
2013-06-09T00:01:39  <jonnyx> involved with Nashville's community & non-commercial radio scene - all while taking questions/comments/death-threats/booze/cash donations/other love offerings from the audience."
2013-06-09T00:01:47  <Corydon76-home> and Pride is incidentally very family friendly
2013-06-09T00:02:04  <jonnyx> That work for ya?
2013-06-09T00:03:59  <oddball> I'm curious about the literature.  Also... remember, there will be lit publishers there.
2013-06-09T00:04:16  <oddball> But yeah... email me at my gmail addy
2013-06-09T00:07:13  <jonnyx> Good. I have no problem blasting the metric fucktons of shit they churn out year after years just to squeeze a few more bucks out of Star Trek/Star Wars/_insert_other_ fans. Go into McKay's sometime & look at the shelves, plural, of tie-in novels that comprise a large portion of the sci-fi paperback section.
2013-06-09T00:10:12  <jonnyx> Fantasy is even worse, in it's own way, since with few exceptions it's the same tired tropes endlessly recycled in padded 500pg novels that are part of a triliogy. More "this is what sells" marketing than anything interesting.
2013-06-09T00:12:31  <oddball> Well, these will be small time publishers... so no franchise books.
2013-06-09T00:13:07  <oddball> Well, yes... I definately understand the "this is what sells" issue.
2013-06-09T00:13:14  <oddball> Sadly, that can be a real thing.
2013-06-09T00:14:57  <oddball> I read one series of books and loved it.  Looked for more by the author (Lyda Moorehouse), and landed on her homepage where she talk about the fact that her books won awards and shit, but weren't selling.  Her agent told her basically that they weren't selling because they weren't vampire books... and that's what was hot at the time.
2013-06-09T00:20:17  <jonnyx> Authors vs publishers. Publishers run a business and they are in business to make money. Sadly, pandering to the lowest common denominator & churning out a lot of crap can make you a lot more money (sometimes) that publishing a smaller number of higher quality titles (though some specialty presses get away with it).
2013-06-09T00:20:51  <oddball> Hence Steven King
2013-06-09T00:25:23  <jonnyx> Authors seem to be devided into two different camps, mostly: those who *have* to write, and would continue to do so even if they weren't making sales, vs those who write mainly to make a buck. You can have amazing authors of either type and an even smaller number who can do well in each camp, but the works I enjoy most & which have a special place on my bookshelf seem to be mostly from the
2013-06-09T00:25:23  <jonnyx> former camp, not the latter.
2013-06-09T00:26:25  <jonnyx> Ugh. King & Koontz. Nuke them and 50%+ of the books in the horror section of any new and/or used bookstore vanish.
2013-06-09T00:27:09  <oddball> Yep... and it pisses me off because there are much better writers out there that could use that space.
2013-06-09T00:27:39  <jonnyx> King has written some stuff I enjoy (especially his non-horror stuff), but I haven't read anything by Koontz that held my interest.
2013-06-09T00:32:11  <RangerZ> jonnyx: congrats, thats the only talk I know anything about at this con in nashville, lol
2013-06-09T00:32:37  <RangerZ> oddball: sorry, was too easy, lol
2013-06-09T00:34:20  <oddball> I mentioned a few earlier.
2013-06-09T00:35:15  <oddball> And yeah... Scifi cons tend not to post the schedules on their websites... and... as you noticed, our website for this year is kind of crappy.
2013-06-09T00:35:54  <oddball> I'm already working on getting that fixed for next year (read: taking it from the current person that maintains it and giving to someone that knows what they're doing)
2013-06-09T00:42:27  <jonnyx> Must hit the sack shortly, got an early morning. Here's my off-the-top-of-my-head top 10(ish) list of "wish there was more like this" sci-fi list:
2013-06-09T00:42:38  <jonnyx> #1) Nova, by Samuel Delany
2013-06-09T00:42:49  <jonnyx> #2) Neuromancer, by William Gibson
2013-06-09T00:43:20  <jonnyx> #3) Voice of the Whirlwind, by Walter Jon Williams (as sort of a follow-up to Neuromancer)(and an interesting murder mystery spin)
2013-06-09T00:43:33  <jonnyx> #4) Childhood's End, by Arthur C. Clarke
2013-06-09T00:43:46  <jonnyx> #5) Blood Music, by Greg Bear (as sort of a retelling of Childhood's End)
2013-06-09T00:44:06  <jonnyx> #6) The Forever War, by Joe Haldeman (but also read Starship Troopers, by Robert Heinlein, with the understanding that Haldeman was a Nam vet rewriting Heinlein's rah rah war bullshit)
2013-06-09T00:44:22  <jonnyx> #7) Across Realtime, by Vernor Vinge (technically two novels and a bridging novela collected under one cover)
2013-06-09T00:46:20  <jonnyx> #8) The Stars My Destination, by Alfred Bester (because it fucking rocks, doubly so for being written in 1956 & still being more mind blowingly original than most sci-fi lit written before or since)
2013-06-09T00:48:18  <jonnyx> Still mulling over #9 & #10; probably something(s) by John Varley (Titan/Gaia trilogy? 8-Worlds novels & short stories?)
2013-06-09T00:49:12  <jonnyx> Honorably mentions to Wells' Time Machine & War of the Worlds, & Verne's 20,000 Leagues
2013-06-09T00:49:26  <jonnyx> Discuss.
2013-06-09T00:50:22  <jonnyx> Oh, Permutation City, by Greg Egan, in the #9 or #10 slot.
2013-06-09T00:52:41  <jonnyx> More modern honorable mentions to Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars trilogy + ss collection, Richard Morgan's Takeshi Kovacs novels and Charles Stross in general
2013-06-09T00:53:11  <jonnyx> i'ma zzzzzzzz now
2013-06-09T02:08:25  <Dagmar> Charles Stross wins for writing books which are generally unintelligible
2013-06-09T02:29:57  <Dagmar> aestetix: DUde, have you seen the comments on that bullshit Marie-Claire article since it was first posted?
2013-06-09T02:30:07  <Dagmar> aestetix: http://www.marieclaire.com/career-money/jobs/geeks-attack
2013-06-09T02:30:08  <GateKeeper> Title: Sexual Harassment in the Tech Industry - Harassment in the Workplace - Marie Claire (at www.marieclaire.com)
2013-06-09T02:30:13  <Dagmar> There's hope for humanity yet
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2013-06-09T03:46:56  <aestetix_> Nope
2013-06-09T03:46:57  <aestetix_> oh boy
2013-06-09T03:51:41  <aestetix_> Dagmar: wait.... do they use facebook for comments?
2013-06-09T04:14:05  <aestetix_> http://www.amazon.com/Doc-Johnson-Great-American-Challenge/dp/B002E9I0F2
2013-06-09T04:35:22  <aestetix_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqErCUDaOyg
2013-06-09T04:35:23  <GateKeeper> Title: CNN Apologizes For Playing "Nigga" Song for 103-year-old Lady During Broadcast - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
2013-06-09T04:35:26  <aestetix_> this is fucking hilarious
2013-06-09T05:16:33  <Dagmar> rofl
2013-06-09T05:16:45  <Dagmar> Someone's ass is SO fired
2013-06-09T05:18:09  <Dagmar> I'll bet the janitorial staff was *pissed* about all the jaws they had to sweep up off the floor that day
2013-06-09T05:20:52  <Bahhumbug> That's absolutely fucking awesome.
2013-06-09T05:20:58  <Bahhumbug> On so many levels.
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2013-06-09T08:49:45  <eryc> they didnt actually play nigga noobs
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2013-06-09T14:23:41  <NotLarry_> ok, joke I may have to steal... "I was at the pool wearing my speedo and after about 20 minutes of strange looks I realized the "S" had fallen off the logo..."
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2013-06-09T16:25:06  <Dickie> PhreaNIC comin' early this year
2013-06-09T16:26:26  <Dickie> Fuckin' global warming
2013-06-09T16:55:30  <RangerZ> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/10/us/former-cia-worker-says-he-leaked-surveillance-data.html
2013-06-09T16:55:40  <RangerZ> good for him taking refuge in hong kong, LOL
2013-06-09T16:55:56  <RangerZ> finally a leaker who knew he'd be prosecuted and fled, lol
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2013-06-09T17:20:45  <RangerZ> ok... i really wish i'd atleast get some shipping info on my OUYA, i have a DHL tracking #, but thats like 9 days old and still no shipping info
2013-06-09T17:57:32  <Evilpig> that's cause DHL passes off to the USPS and they only update on receipt and delivery
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2013-06-09T18:18:34  <oddball> Evilpig: Oh... hey! Looks like I'm going to need to borrow that projector.
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2013-06-09T19:16:55  <NotLarry_> fuck that data center is cold
2013-06-09T19:41:58  <oddball> Could be worse... could be raining in there: http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/06/09/0534231/facebook-suffers-actual-cloud-in-oregon-datacenter
2013-06-09T19:41:59  <GateKeeper> Title: Facebook Suffers Actual Cloud In Oregon Datacenter - Slashdot (at it.slashdot.org)
2013-06-09T19:52:55  <RangerZ> so does anyone know why facebook's custom racks are an odd mm dimension ?
2013-06-09T19:53:10  <NotLarry_> yes
2013-06-09T19:54:55  <NotLarry_> "The problem has been that historically, data center rack manufacturers have been basing designs on an old standard originally intended for railroad-switch equipment"
2013-06-09T21:00:21  <RangerZ> ahh
2013-06-09T21:00:44  <RangerZ> << doesn't keep up with server stuff much, so i saw the sizes and wondered
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2013-06-09T22:20:29  <RangerZ> https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/7466_10151500216986909_953987501_n.jpg nice...
2013-06-09T23:26:46  <aestetix_> vagina
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