2013-06-08T00:49:14 I hate stupid people 2013-06-08T00:49:35 come on purge... just one night. give me free reign to clear these problems up 2013-06-08T11:25:12 èhmmm... looks like Hypercon is going to need that projector. 2013-06-08T13:18:12 Good morning 2013-06-08T14:12:31 What's this about a purge? 2013-06-08T14:18:48 Ah... Google explained it to me 2013-06-08T14:32:53 wtf? kevin smith has written a clerks 3 2013-06-08T14:35:26 Yep. He tweeted a pic of the first draft a month or so ago 2013-06-08T14:51:42 oddball: no offense, but PN's site is better than hypericon's and thats saying a lot, there is no menu at all on the site, I have no idea what the con is about, what days it is 2013-06-08T14:51:45 what times it is 2013-06-08T14:52:29 ohh sorry, i do know the days(thats in the banner) , but not the times each day* i meant, and ... who is talking... what will be there.... etc 2013-06-08T14:54:53 oh my that is bad. oddball: contact me next year before they use blogger again. 2013-06-08T15:02:14 http://www.hypericon.us I'm going to assume this is 'this' years' site right? 2013-06-08T15:02:15 Title: Hypericon (at www.hypericon.us) 2013-06-08T15:03:57 is there a schedule? is there is a list of things going on? etc? (I'm honestly interested in attending, but i want to know whats going on, etc.) 2013-06-08T15:12:16 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/07/deric-lostutter-raid-kyanonymous-steubenville_n_3403000.html 2013-06-08T15:12:17 Title: FBI Raid On Deric Lostutter, AKA KYAnonymous, Was In Connection With Steubenville Hack (at www.huffingtonpost.com) 2013-06-08T15:12:19 ohh yeah... 2013-06-08T15:12:36 b/c a person exposing rape should get 5x the jail time as A RAPIST 2013-06-08T15:12:39 *ugh* 2013-06-08T15:14:20 I saw that yesterday as well. that's some bullshit for sure 2013-06-08T15:14:51 thinking about grabbing a quick shower and heading to the farmers market 2013-06-08T15:18:28 *** jonnyx has joined #se2600 2013-06-08T15:19:33 *** jonny_X has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2013-06-08T16:01:52 *** NotLarry_ has joined #se2600 2013-06-08T16:01:59 *** oddball_ has joined #se2600 2013-06-08T16:05:18 *** Evilpig_ has joined #se2600 2013-06-08T16:07:59 *** NotLarry has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2013-06-08T16:07:59 *** oddball has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2013-06-08T16:08:49 *** Evilpig has quit IRC (Write error: Broken pipe) 2013-06-08T16:29:12 *** ChanServ has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-06-08T16:31:05 *** ChanServ has joined #se2600 2013-06-08T16:31:05 *** leguin.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ 2013-06-08T16:31:06 *** ChanServ has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-06-08T16:31:25 *** ChanServ has joined #se2600 2013-06-08T16:31:25 *** leguin.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ 2013-06-08T16:31:52 *** anarchival has joined #se2600 2013-06-08T16:31:52 *** amberadams has joined #se2600 2013-06-08T16:32:09 *** amberadams has quit IRC (Changing host) 2013-06-08T16:32:09 *** amberadams has joined #se2600 2013-06-08T16:39:46 *** amberadams has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2013-06-08T16:41:21 *** stowbari has joined #se2600 2013-06-08T17:21:45 hmm.. i wonder if google/facebook/etc are saying that they aren't a part of prism... because they have to by court order 2013-06-08T17:22:11 OR... if the NSA has broken SSL/TLS, and is just capturing all the data going in/out from the servers 2013-06-08T17:23:10 (i'm starting to wonder if thats the case...) and if that is true... I wonder if the timeframes of when different sites started helping is nothing more than NSA cracking their SSL keys 2013-06-08T17:23:41 and that they just haven't broken twitter's yet, not that they have anything in particular to them 2013-06-08T17:24:11 i wonder if this is true because of the news (within the last month?) that google was upping its SSL key lengths... 2013-06-08T17:28:19 RangerZ - Key length is probably a moot point. I was at google when the original hardware ops head (a 20something SanFran native) quit & was replaced with by a guy who was a Marine for 20 years *then* worked for the NSA. This was in 2004. AFAIK, the former NSA guy is still in charge of all of google's hardware, specifically datacenters, core routers, etc. 2013-06-08T17:29:17 *** stowbari has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-06-08T17:29:30 This was also about the time that google's lawsauit with the UG gov't over data retention & access was mysteriously settled. 2013-06-08T17:29:53 yeah, but my guess is that they can just brute force them faster, which would lead to that 'staggered' "addition" to the program 2013-06-08T17:29:54 *US* (damn fingers) 2013-06-08T17:30:12 which is why key length WOULD matter 2013-06-08T17:30:32 but yeah, i was playing devil's advocate for the companies actually not knowing anything about it 2013-06-08T17:31:28 I just assume that google has been an NSA asset for the last decade & act accordingly. 2013-06-08T17:37:10 ^ that 2013-06-08T17:52:13 heh 2013-06-08T17:59:19 *** stowbari has joined #se2600 2013-06-08T18:52:51 jonnyx: Bahhumbug if you don't have anything to hide, you won't have a problem 2013-06-08T18:52:53 ;) 2013-06-08T18:52:55 lol 2013-06-08T19:45:16 *** stowbari has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-06-08T20:12:52 I don't. I do everything in the open :) 2013-06-08T20:18:23 thats why I am never near you when you take a shit... just say'n 2013-06-08T20:19:14 also... 2:1 odds that Anonymous takes MS's XBOX ONE auth server down day one... and causes "error 37" for Xbox One owners everywhere... so that no one can use their systems at all... 2013-06-08T20:20:27 Ok, I retract that. I don't do _everything_ in the open. 2013-06-08T20:31:45 *** stowbari has joined #se2600 2013-06-08T21:01:41 penis and vagina 2013-06-08T21:02:36 speaking of penis 2013-06-08T21:02:37 http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/sep/29/cloud.computing.richard.stallman 2013-06-08T21:02:38 Title: Cloud computing is a trap, warns GNU founder | Technology | guardian.co.uk (at www.guardian.co.uk) 2013-06-08T21:07:48 RangerZ: Oh... don't worry... Naienko is taking over webmaster duties for next year. It should be much better. 2013-06-08T21:08:21 *** oddball_ is now known as oddball 2013-06-08T21:08:32 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o oddball 2013-06-08T21:10:00 Also... we're still putting the finishing touches on the programing (that's what a good bit of this morning's meeting was about). I don't think we're going to publish the schedule on the website. Most scifi cons I go to don't. 2013-06-08T21:11:38 As for stuff that you'd be interested in. Critch is going to give a talk on 3D printing, there's going to be a few tabletop RPG/boardgame/card game talks, and I'm going to talk about guns during what's generally considered the steampunk era. 2013-06-08T21:12:04 oddball: programming for what? 2013-06-08T21:12:07 There will be a good bit of authors talking, and it's generally a good time for the weekend. 2013-06-08T21:12:13 aestetix_: Sorry... Hypericon. 2013-06-08T21:12:16 ahhh 2013-06-08T21:12:43 Guess I should have referenced that since I was responding to a comment made a couple hours ago. 2013-06-08T21:13:34 *** oddball changes topic to " New design in progress for http://www.phreaknic.info | Hypericon June 14-17 (this coming week!)" 2013-06-08T21:13:48 don't know why I didn't do that before now... 2013-06-08T21:13:57 *** oddball changes topic to " New design in progress for http://www.phreaknic.info | Hypericon June 14-17 (this coming weekend!)" 2013-06-08T21:15:09 aestetix_: http://stuff.gerdesas.com/images/rms.jpg 2013-06-08T21:16:49 this doesn't sound good 2013-06-08T21:16:59 hahaha 2013-06-08T21:33:07 What a load of absolute bullshit: "But Richard Stallman, founder of the Free Software Foundation and creator of the computer operating system GNU" 2013-06-08T21:33:47 Really? GNU is an 'operating system' now? How's HURD working out for him? And even Linus told him to shove it over the branding he wanted to dump on linux. 2013-06-08T21:34:18 GNU is an operating system, just minus the kernel. :p 2013-06-08T21:34:20 That being said, I agree with a log of that article. 2013-06-08T21:34:27 Heh, I 'spose :) 2013-06-08T21:34:30 what article? 2013-06-08T21:34:38 http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/sep/29/cloud.computing.richard.stallman 2013-06-08T21:34:39 Title: Cloud computing is a trap, warns GNU founder | Technology | guardian.co.uk (at www.guardian.co.uk) 2013-06-08T21:34:40 Of course, that's like saying it's a car without a motor 2013-06-08T21:35:14 And I just now noticed the date on that article. 2013-06-08T21:35:21 * Bahhumbug needs to learn how to read better 2013-06-08T21:35:47 i disagree with him, but I forsee a different end game than he does 2013-06-08T21:36:03 *** Evilpig_ is now known as Evilpig 2013-06-08T21:36:08 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Evilpig 2013-06-08T21:36:12 *** Evilpig changes topic to "Hypericon June 14-17 (this coming week!) | PhreakNIC Sept 20-22" 2013-06-08T21:36:47 i see tons of networked small devices all around us (we're heading there) and they will make the 'personal clouds' b/c every one of us would LOVE to be able to sync our media wirelessly (and easily) to every device we own, etc 2013-06-08T21:37:12 i've said since android 1.0 that i saw it becoming a great OS for doing that 2013-06-08T21:37:25 with simplified RPCs between processes that was secured 2013-06-08T21:38:01 and with projects like AMMO, which handle all of the syncing for you among many apps (via config files) 2013-06-08T21:38:50 and cloud computing ..is NOT... a trap 2013-06-08T21:39:00 we just need open APIs (which we are getting) 2013-06-08T21:39:56 if i can move one host from one server to another... seamlessly then great (but he's using SaS(software as a service) model of 'cloud' computing as the definition of the only thing that happens) 2013-06-08T21:46:27 but I could see SSaS(becoming more of a thing, Software Service as a Service) so open source software maintained/managed by someone else(to cut down on IT costs, etc) 2013-06-08T21:47:08 like a webhost giving you a quick install/config of wordpress, wordpress itself is open, and what not... but users don't care (i don't, i know that),lol 2013-06-08T22:00:51 cloud computing in itself isn't a trap 2013-06-08T22:00:56 the way it's currently set up is, though 2013-06-08T22:02:23 It would be way less of a trap if the US amended the law so that if a company gets a subpoena about information, they are required by law to inform the person whose name is attached to the information 2013-06-08T22:03:28 they are, except when they aren't 2013-06-08T22:03:30 ;) 2013-06-08T22:03:45 lol 2013-06-08T22:03:55 Like the NSLs 2013-06-08T22:04:19 If I use gmail and the US government subpoenas it with an NSL, google is bound by law not to tell me about it 2013-06-08T22:05:05 I may call my congressional aid friend tomorrow or monday and chat about this stuff. 2013-06-08T23:02:55 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGHuJSiu_EM 2013-06-08T23:02:56 Title: Microsoft making fake Reddit accounts to praise Xbox One + Paying Devs to not show PS4 games at E3 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 2013-06-08T23:03:00 this is funny, lol 2013-06-08T23:03:04 i hope its true, lol 2013-06-08T23:08:55 i dunno, monday is going to be a fun day, we'll see if we get more gov't leaks, if we get to see MS/SONY/etc shoot themselves in the foot more 2013-06-08T23:08:56 etc 2013-06-08T23:10:27 *** stowbari has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-06-08T23:28:38 oddball: How 'bout this for my talk title? "Why Most Sci-Fi Sucks Throbbing Donkey Cock" 2013-06-08T23:29:09 hahahaha 2013-06-08T23:29:18 Lemme know the names of some of the authors who'll be attending & I'll see if I can personally insult them as well. 2013-06-08T23:31:38 Dude... just stick to talking about running shit at Dragon, and no one will bring out the torches and pitchforks. 2013-06-08T23:33:22 Nope, too easy. I warned you that I was going to do the equivalent of 3-4 lightning talks on different topics, not a single 1hr talk I only have a few days to prepare. 2013-06-08T23:33:24 Otherwise, you'll be labeled as the son of the guy that sowed up last year, did a talk on how everyone in the con scene sucked, and followed that up on why Peewee Herman's Great Adventure was the best movie evar. 2013-06-08T23:33:38 Ok. 2013-06-08T23:33:57 I've told them that you were planning on doing 3-4 lightening talks on... something. 2013-06-08T23:34:19 (I do have a soft spot for Peewee's Big Advanture...) 2013-06-08T23:35:24 Oh, yes. I enjoyed the film as well, but... uh... this guy gave you the impression that he mastubated on the DVD box while watching it at home. 2013-06-08T23:36:16 OK, on a more serious note, I figured a kinder, gentler version of "Why Most Sci-Fi Sucks..." (because, alas, it truly does, and I deeply care; I *want* people to demand more of sci-fi lit/tv/movies)... 2013-06-08T23:37:02 See? Yes... constructive criticism of scifi is good. 2013-06-08T23:37:42 (and yes, I'll provide "top 10" and "10 worst" lists for people to discuss/fistfight over) 2013-06-08T23:38:04 yes.... let the hate flow through you... 2013-06-08T23:41:13 ...AND a sort-of devil's advocate defense of music piracy for audiophiles (this would be the discussion of cds with numerous unreferenced masters, hidden flaws, bitrot, etc., how to dig up this info for specific releases that might be of importance to the listener, archiving techniques so you don't have to keep buying the same album in different formats every few years, etc) 2013-06-08T23:41:59 ...AND your "Joys of Running a Con, and Scaling Issues to Be Aware Of" suggestion 2013-06-08T23:42:03 Think you could do a quick write up of the topics you're going to cover for us to put in the program? 2013-06-08T23:42:45 ...AND maybe something about the local community/non-commercial radio scene and how to get involved 2013-06-08T23:43:58 ...oh, and the con segment would also be a semi-gratuitous PhreakNIC/2600 plug, plus info on hackerspaces for the uninitiated, and how to get involved with them as well (ie - PN/2600/hackerspaces) 2013-06-08T23:45:02 By the way, Critch would be on board with a new hackerspace if people started one. 2013-06-08T23:47:52 possible PC title, since oddball doesn't want to put "throbbing donkey cock" in the program booklet: "Rev. X: Rants, Revelations and Recruiting Session" 2013-06-08T23:50:28 Well, this is supposed to be a family friendly con.