2013-05-31T00:00:13  <RangerZ> that and you work fucked up 12hr shifts
2013-05-31T00:01:01  <wilpig> hrmm.  weird and I thought I was single cause my ex wife is a lieing cheating whore, but if you say it's from rats in moonshine.  alright.
2013-05-31T00:06:56  <aestetix> wilpig: no no no
2013-05-31T00:07:00  <aestetix> you're not single
2013-05-31T00:07:02  <aestetix> you're free :)
2013-05-31T00:07:19  <Bahhumbug> +1
2013-05-31T00:08:37  <wilpig> aestetix: free == sleeping alone
2013-05-31T00:08:41  <wilpig> at least in my case.
2013-05-31T00:13:47  <RangerZ> lies
2013-05-31T00:14:08  <RangerZ> you have Corydon76-home and ladymerlin to comfort you at night ;)
2013-05-31T00:15:39  <wilpig> just ran that through the computer to double check.  nope not happenin
2013-05-31T00:17:29  <RangerZ> lol
2013-05-31T00:18:03  <RangerZ> and it is "thru"
2013-05-31T00:18:11  <RangerZ> haven't you seen the signs with it on it ;)
2013-05-31T00:27:40  <RangerZ> man.. .I'm in a troller mood tonight
2013-05-31T00:27:50  <wilpig> clearly
2013-05-31T00:42:21  <wilpig> I should update the gps tonight
2013-05-31T00:48:46  <wilpig> guess it's good I looked.  there is a 2.9GB map update
2013-05-31T00:49:38  <ladymerlin> whee
2013-05-31T00:52:20  <RangerZ> wilpig: you have an android device right?
2013-05-31T00:52:23  <RangerZ> just use google maps
2013-05-31T00:52:45  <RangerZ> you can store all of middle TN in a single map download of like 90mb
2013-05-31T00:57:16  <wilpig> I have a gps for that kind of thing
2013-05-31T00:57:31  <wilpig> then if a call comes in I don't have to worry about getting lost just so I can talk
2013-05-31T00:58:27  <wilpig> https://vine.co/v/bYTUxu6bltg
2013-05-31T00:58:28  <GateKeeper> Title: Thin Wall Ryan's post on Vine (at vine.co)
2013-05-31T01:02:41  <RangerZ> what is that? is it a video?
2013-05-31T01:02:53  <RangerZ> i see a mic symbol, but no 'play' or anything
2013-05-31T01:16:32  <eryc> seems a bit silly
2013-05-31T01:16:57  <eryc> it autoplays its an animated gif or something
2013-05-31T01:19:18  <RangerZ> hmm didn't play in chrome
2013-05-31T01:19:50  <RangerZ> isn't vine that 6second video sharing site of twitters?
2013-05-31T01:20:28  <RangerZ> yeah... looks like it
2013-05-31T01:20:33  <RangerZ> stupid
2013-05-31T01:20:50  <RangerZ>  6 seconds of video isn't enough for anything meaningful other than trolls
2013-05-31T01:31:10  <aestetix> vagina
2013-05-31T03:10:43  <RangerZ> that too, but it'll never be on vine
2013-05-31T03:32:42  <RangerZ> http://gawker.com/lesbian-couple-engages-in-hardcore-pda-on-aussie-train-510440324
2013-05-31T03:32:45  <RangerZ> well then....
2013-05-31T03:37:20  <RangerZ>  from http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/1fakyu/lesbians_on_melbournes_trains/
2013-05-31T03:37:21  <GateKeeper> Title: Lesbians on Melbourne's Trains : videos (at www.reddit.com)
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2013-05-31T08:50:03  <Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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2013-05-31T09:22:30  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
2013-05-31T09:26:27  * oddball yawns
2013-05-31T09:27:20  * oddball looks up the weather for Gatlinburg and sees that there's a pollen alert.
2013-05-31T09:27:40  <oddball> wonderful... need to mak sure to pack the drugs.
2013-05-31T09:29:17  <oddball> Oh, but hey! the pollen alert is lower than it is in Nashville... I guess that's something.
2013-05-31T09:29:37  * oddball looks out to see pollen yellow cars.
2013-05-31T10:01:17  <oddball> Oh... great... the state AG has decided that, according to the new "guns in parking lots bill," if a security camera catches a carry permit holder storing their gun in their car, then it's illegal.
2013-05-31T10:01:45  <oddball> Once again... I love the idea of "yes, it's legal... as long as no one knows about it."
2013-05-31T10:02:06  <Dagmar> Will be declared unenforceable.
2013-05-31T10:02:41  <oddball> Nope... The climate is the exact same as it was before the law was passed.
2013-05-31T10:03:29  <oddball> Not a god damn thing was actually changed.  They just passed something that they thought would make the gun rights folks shut up.
2013-05-31T10:05:13  <oddball> I've known a few local gun rights advocates that have started talking about the fact that there was a hell of a lot more done for gun rights when the Democrats were in charge of the state legislature. (this is the only "gun rights" bill that has even made it to the floor since the Republicans took over)
2013-05-31T10:05:30  <Dagmar> Fuckin' great
2013-05-31T10:05:41  <Dagmar> Sean wants to be passive-aggressive about this shit
2013-05-31T10:06:46  <Dagmar> I was trying last night on the phone to explain to him that while he was out we'd identified the source of two more problems and beat them into submission, and he kept interrupting me to alternatingly tell me I was looking in the wrong place, and that "that's not what that setting is called", and "that's not what that setting does".
2013-05-31T10:06:59  <Dagmar> Except he's definitely wrong on at least two of those counts.
2013-05-31T10:07:23  <wilpig> lurvly
2013-05-31T10:07:31  <Dagmar> MOre reasons to suspect he's the tool who put those demented settings into vSphere to begin with
2013-05-31T10:08:29  <Dagmar> wilpig: No.  What's lovely is that I was talking to him about this on my cell phone, so if Hogan grills me about it, I'll just play him the damn recording and he can see why we're getting into arguments
2013-05-31T10:09:44  <Dagmar> Because... fucking christ, we have _fixed_ the problems, which is a good general indicator that I was fuckin' right
2013-05-31T10:10:46  <wilpig> I'd be careful with that recording.  while legal, it could violate stupid HR policies about recording employees without their permission like the case of the janitor and the change getting caught via webcam
2013-05-31T10:11:04  <Dagmar> That was video surveillance while the recording party wasn't in attendance
2013-05-31T10:11:07  <wilpig> or me filming dale sleeping with the noc cell phone
2013-05-31T10:11:18  <Dagmar> Oh I'd like to see what policy that violates
2013-05-31T10:11:39  <wilpig> that was the ITS policy on recording.  lemme search my email really fast
2013-05-31T10:13:47  <Dolemite> Z sent out a notice to all of ITS after the Dale recording to remind everybody that it's a violation of VU policy to record someone without their knowledge
2013-05-31T10:14:11  <Dolemite> It's a university-wide policy, even though it's not illegal in the State of TN
2013-05-31T10:14:17  <Dagmar> I'll worry about that when people stop fuckin' lying about who said what and when around here.
2013-05-31T10:14:29  <Dagmar> I'm not playing that fucking reindeer game anymore.
2013-05-31T10:14:40  <Dolemite> Dagmar: Good luck on that one.  The lying will stop when the doors close.
2013-05-31T10:14:43  <wilpig> I can't find it
2013-05-31T10:14:55  <Dagmar> Well, great news then... We're headed for just such a day with a vengeance.
2013-05-31T10:14:58  <Dolemite> oddball: You're coming up for GeekNIC?
2013-05-31T10:15:14  <Dagmar> This place is fairly goddamn dysfunctional right now
2013-05-31T10:15:22  <oddball> Yep.  Going to pack and head out in just a bit.  Going to miss the tour, though.
2013-05-31T10:15:40  <Dolemite> oddball: That's what I was going to ask about - I can probably get you added on to the list if you want to join the tour
2013-05-31T10:15:58  <Dagmar> It very much appears like management is utilizing the "architecture" team as manager-admins, and the actual admins as second teir technical support.
2013-05-31T10:16:05  <oddball> Nah... I'll skip it this time.
2013-05-31T10:16:32  <Dagmar> ...and the very fucking moment they declare Nathan Casteel (nice guy tho he is) to be in a decision-making capacity about the Linux machines, I'll quit.
2013-05-31T10:16:47  <Dagmar> I can deliver fucking pizzas for not much less than they pay me, and there's a shitload less hassle involved.
2013-05-31T10:17:26  <wilpig> might be a noc spot opening back up. lol
2013-05-31T10:17:40  <Dagmar> Mirage is almost certainly going to find another job somewhere else soon, and Sean can't handle this shit himself because he's too busy preening to triage the shit that's broken and start straigtening it out
2013-05-31T10:18:07  <Dagmar> There's dippy shit going on in the LTMs still, and he's either unaware of it, or ignoring it.
2013-05-31T10:18:17  <Dagmar> ...and he's directly responsible for those things.
2013-05-31T10:18:28  <Dolemite> wilpig: If you are heading up early, there's a nice portal farm around Bissell Park in Oak Ridge
2013-05-31T10:18:39  <wilpig> Not gonna be out of here early
2013-05-31T10:18:46  <wilpig> still need to get the truck washed, etc
2013-05-31T10:18:54  <Dagmar> Ther'es a BUNCH of dumb shit still hiding in our webservers, but I'm actively hunting it down and murdering it
2013-05-31T10:19:26  <wilpig> Dagmar: the windows admins still can't figure out why the email keeps timing out.
2013-05-31T10:19:48  <Dagmar> wilpig: Email timing out where?
2013-05-31T10:19:50  <wilpig> I asked nathan if that was going through the ltm by any chance and he was adament that the ltms weren't the issue
2013-05-31T10:20:07  <wilpig> em19 and em18 have been flaking out like mad in nagios for the last week
2013-05-31T10:20:12  <Dagmar> wilpig: Probably because Sean won't consider the possibility that the LTMs are not, in fact, perfectly configured
2013-05-31T10:20:16  <wilpig> smtp just dropping connecitons
2013-05-31T10:20:27  <Dagmar> Oh, that
2013-05-31T10:20:36  <Dagmar> That's _because_ of the LTMs.
2013-05-31T10:21:19  <Dagmar> So, one of the graphs I have in Cacti (one of the first that I just got fed up, went in there, and built from the ground up) is one that is *just* to show how often the Exchange servers mysteriously hang the fuck up on the SMTP layer servers
2013-05-31T10:21:56  <Dagmar> ...and I suspect it's the same issue that was going on with the sendmail servers getting beaten to death.
2013-05-31T10:22:20  <Dagmar> The LTM was *not* distributing mail server connections evenly.
2013-05-31T10:23:08  <Dagmar> It was, in fact, doing the exact opposite.  It would beat the fuck out of one server until that server's load reached *75* or higher, at which point sendmail starts telling new connections to fuck off, then and only then would it move on to the _next_ server in the list and repeat the process.
2013-05-31T10:23:41  <Dagmar> Sean put in a change to fix that after it became obvious that that's what it was, but I'll wager he *only* fixed it for the sendmail boxes
2013-05-31T10:23:56  <aestetix> Well that makes sense
2013-05-31T10:24:05  <Dagmar> Once I've got some graphs showing how many actual connections are coming to each of them, we should be able to see whether or not it was fixed properly.
2013-05-31T10:24:12  <aestetix> It turns out Russia was ranked the third most "unfriendly" country in the world
2013-05-31T10:24:59  <Dagmar> ...but if the LTMs are still delivering a fuckton of connections to one Exchange server until it starts getting pissed off about it and then moving on to the others, with Nagios going _through_ the LTMs, it would be treated like the other servers.
2013-05-31T10:25:10  <Dagmar> i.e., above the tipping point it's going to get hung up on.
2013-05-31T10:25:38  <Dagmar> But right now, he can suffer his own shit for all I care
2013-05-31T10:25:54  <Dagmar> I don't have anything but "guest" access into the LTMs.
2013-05-31T10:25:59  <wilpig> I can't say.  All I can really point out was a trend I was noticing and questioned the oncall about it so maybe he'd get one less call from me in the middle of the night
2013-05-31T10:27:27  <Dagmar> Because it is *seriously* suspect that while I was driving myself batty trying to find out why *most* of our shit was on fire during commencement, Sean kept trying to argue with me about where the problem was coming from.
2013-05-31T10:27:29  <aestetix> man
2013-05-31T10:27:30  <aestetix> http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/05/europes-record-youth-unemployment-the-scariest-graph-in-the-world-just-got-scarier/276423/
2013-05-31T10:27:31  <GateKeeper> Title: Europe's Record Youth Unemployment: The Scariest Graph in the World Just Got Scarier - Derek Thompson - The Atlantic (at www.theatlantic.com)
2013-05-31T10:27:42  <wilpig> Dagmar: https://nagios.its.vanderbilt.edu/nagios/cgi-bin/history.cgi?host=its-hcwnem18&service=SMTP-Service
2013-05-31T10:27:45  <aestetix> Greece is at 62.5 percent unemployment
2013-05-31T10:28:28  <Dagmar> wilpig: Socket timeouts?  *shudder*
2013-05-31T10:28:40  <Dagmar> aestetix: This is what happens when the greedy people take *all* the stuff
2013-05-31T10:28:55  <Dagmar> Economic collapse.
2013-05-31T10:29:53  <wilpig> you see the history on that though.  This should be getting looked at and not ignored
2013-05-31T10:30:34  <Dagmar> wilpig: yeah, probably so, but since everyone's real happy to say "Oh that's not in MY equipment" because actually getting obsessive and fucking LOOKING CLOSELY is more work than they want to do, this shit will continue
2013-05-31T10:31:16  <wilpig> there was a change to the LTM on the 22nd just before that nonsense started,  btw
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2013-05-31T10:32:50  <wilpig> neither related to email but strange coincidence
2013-05-31T10:33:02  <Dagmar> Never fear, when the windows admins try to poo poo those downtimes as a "Nagios failure" I'll slam someone's dick into the dirt over it
2013-05-31T10:33:04  <wilpig> 25999, 26000
2013-05-31T10:33:19  <Dagmar> Those are TCP connections.  They are not subject to the vagaries of UDP dropping
2013-05-31T10:33:52  <Dagmar> wilpig: I don't think Sean would have "stealth updated" something else in those at the same time
2013-05-31T10:34:41  <Dagmar> ...and the bullshit seems to start at 2am
2013-05-31T10:34:41  <wilpig> not saying he did.  but it's one of those things to look at in the process of backtracking what changed in the environment prior to the error condition
2013-05-31T10:34:55  <wilpig> backup jobs are running then
2013-05-31T10:35:11  <Dagmar> Yeah but I don't think they incurred a permanent change
2013-05-31T10:35:26  <Dagmar> I would agree from looking at this that *someone* fucking changed osmehting
2013-05-31T10:35:34  <Dagmar> That someone is probably netsec
2013-05-31T10:35:43  <wilpig> there was a firewall change then as well
2013-05-31T10:36:21  <Dagmar> Yes, a Linux iptables change, so.... definitely unrelated.
2013-05-31T10:36:56  <wilpig> I gotta get off here and get packed
2013-05-31T10:37:05  <wilpig> it's getting on 10 already
2013-05-31T10:37:17  <Dagmar> No worries there.  The rules that were changed only affect that one Linux host, and they were changed on the host so not only was netsec not involved, that aprticular host is over in Bryan and can't possibly be related to this
2013-05-31T10:37:30  <wilpig> I was wanting to go hit up woodlawn for about 30-45 minutes before leaving to get some supplies this morning
2013-05-31T10:37:54  <Dagmar> ...but I'm seriously considering rewriting the fwPolicyTime check in Nagios so that it does the perfmon shit or whatever so we have a log of when they do stealth policy updates
2013-05-31T10:38:11  <Dagmar> s/rewriting/rewiring/
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2013-05-31T11:16:34  <wilpig> clothes and electronics packed. time for a shower and then out to get some cash, booze, wash the truck, farm up some resonators
2013-05-31T11:24:30  <benthemeek> ORNL is eastern time isnt it?
2013-05-31T11:25:39  <wilpig> yes
2013-05-31T11:25:50  <wilpig> to be there at 3.  you'd want to leave here no later than 12:30
2013-05-31T11:29:30  <benthemeek> Did scott ever give us a address we should gps navigate to?
2013-05-31T11:30:34  <frsilent> =( sounds like a fun time
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2013-05-31T11:39:24  <frsilent> newbie question but can't really google it; anyone know off-hand how to change dns in Xubuntu? it's my dev workstation & overwrites /etc/resolv.conf for god knows what reason
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2013-05-31T11:40:27  <frsilent> went to settings>network & set 8.8.8.8 as an "additional dns server" under ipv4
2013-05-31T11:40:35  <frsilent> no luck
2013-05-31T11:45:22  <aestetix> Fuck google :p
2013-05-31T11:45:27  <aestetix> I always use 4.2.2.2 :p
2013-05-31T11:47:56  <wilpig> benthemeek: looks like he sent directions to priscilla
2013-05-31T11:48:01  <wilpig> and to your gmail
2013-05-31T11:48:45  <wilpig> benthemeek: http://goo.gl/maps/r93BK
2013-05-31T11:48:46  <GateKeeper> Title: 1 Bethel Valley Rd, Oak Ridge, TN - Google Maps (at goo.gl)
2013-05-31T11:48:50  <Dagmar> frsilent: It overrides that when it gets a DHCP lease
2013-05-31T11:49:23  <Dagmar> Set it as an override in the dhcp client's config
2013-05-31T11:49:30  <wilpig> alright i'm nearly ready so i'm getting off here and out the door
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2013-05-31T11:51:19  <Dagmar> frsilent: If it's (very rationally) using dhclient, you want the prepend domain-name-servers option
2013-05-31T11:51:44  <Dagmar> i.e., interface "eth0" { prepend domain-name-servers 4.2.2.2; }
2013-05-31T11:53:21  <polerin> prolly a stupid question, but anyone in nashville area have a Rift that I can take a peek at?
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2013-05-31T11:59:51  <frsilent> Dagmar: ty
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2013-05-31T12:02:26  <Dagmar> polerin: Oh if there was such a person...
2013-05-31T12:05:27  <timoguin> I am a person.
2013-05-31T12:05:33  <timoguin> Hear me a roar.
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2013-05-31T12:17:18  <aestetix> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqCtIL9ZPSQ
2013-05-31T12:17:19  <GateKeeper> Title: smart ass spelling bee winner - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
2013-05-31T12:17:29  <polerin> Dagmar: I really really want to dev for them
2013-05-31T12:17:36  <polerin> Gonna make people puke.
2013-05-31T12:19:11  <aestetix> That kid makes the baby jesus cry.
2013-05-31T12:26:53  <Dagmar> I might try doing some dev work on them, but I want to see what they look like from the inside first
2013-05-31T12:27:15  <Dagmar> If it's not significantly better than duct taping a Chumby over each eye, then fuck it
2013-05-31T12:27:31  <Dagmar> I suspect there's a whole LOT of people in that same position
2013-05-31T12:27:47  <Dagmar> We've seen HMDs before, and they were always overhyped.
2013-05-31T12:41:40  <aestetix> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGdCeMayUjk
2013-05-31T12:41:41  <GateKeeper> Title: did he...did he say, niggas? (READ THE DESCRIPTION 1ST) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
2013-05-31T12:41:42  <aestetix> this is funny
2013-05-31T12:50:25  <Dagmar> Oh wow that's pretty great
2013-05-31T12:50:38  <Dagmar> You could tell the kid was like "HOLY SHIT THAT WAS RIGHT?!?!"
2013-05-31T12:51:22  <Dagmar> ...and thinking the whole time "They're actually asking me to spell what?  What did I do to deserve this?!?"
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2013-05-31T13:06:00  <aestetix> ok, Google responded to.
2013-05-31T13:06:04  <aestetix> This should be full of lolz.
2013-05-31T13:30:54  <frsilent> aestetix: that issue you were having with mysql the other day evoked some ptsd-style response from my friend, lol
2013-05-31T13:31:19  <frsilent> he ranted for about 30m about mysql's poor documentation on their site
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2013-05-31T13:37:51  <aestetix> frsilent: what?
2013-05-31T13:37:52  <aestetix> hahaha
2013-05-31T13:38:08  <Dagmar> There's a lot of shit they could stand to reorder
2013-05-31T13:38:31  <Dagmar> It shoudn't take an hour of searchin to find out you're not going to see the fucker use more than one core when all your db's are myISAM
2013-05-31T13:38:43  <Dagmar> It should just say that shit outright in the docs for the threading options
2013-05-31T13:39:16  <frsilent> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96E0RfyL2Gc&feature=youtu.be
2013-05-31T13:39:17  <GateKeeper> Title: Homemade Lightsaber!?! MASSIVE 3W Handheld Laser Torching Stuff!! - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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2013-05-31T13:45:25  <aestetix> http://i.imgur.com/2A6Z1rU.jpg
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2013-05-31T15:11:53  <aestetix> So, Google asked me for a resume.
2013-05-31T15:12:01  <aestetix> I sent them, among other things, a link to the NymRights stuff
2013-05-31T15:12:11  <aestetix> I wonder how long it will take them to retract their invitation
2013-05-31T15:25:00  <aestetix> http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/blog/business/2013/05/amys-baking-company-kicks-us-out.html?amy=
2013-05-31T15:25:01  <GateKeeper> Title: Amy's Baking Company kicks us out after we find flies in the vodka (three times) - Phoenix Business Journal (at www.bizjournals.com)
2013-05-31T16:00:11  <aestetix> ok who wants a job
2013-05-31T16:00:26  <aestetix> There is a place in Nashville looking for tech workers
2013-05-31T16:31:37  <aestetix> http://www.technewsdaily.com/18222-liberty-reserve-online-anonymity.html
2013-05-31T16:31:38  <GateKeeper> Title: What the Liberty Reserve Seizure Means for Online Anonymity | TechNewsDaily.com (at www.technewsdaily.com)
2013-05-31T16:31:40  <aestetix> our article came out
2013-05-31T16:40:16  <RangerZ> "That said, If we do not reach our fundraising goal and I feel that we will be unable to host Notacon 11, I will refund on request anyone's sponsorship money no questions asked. So $2,500 is our goal, $7,000 is our stretch goal, of sorts"
2013-05-31T16:41:28  <RangerZ> Froggy & Tyger of Notacon are looking for donations to help them pay off this last Notacon 10, (Froggy got sick with Cancer (in remittance now, thankfully) so thats why they don't have the spare cash to pay it themselves)
2013-05-31T16:45:53  <aestetix> ouch
2013-05-31T16:46:11  <aestetix> I'll send them a little cash when I get my paycheck
2013-05-31T16:48:15  <RangerZ> wish i had a few K to just throw at them
2013-05-31T16:49:27  <aestetix> Yeah
2013-05-31T16:49:40  <aestetix> I'll see if I can budget $100.... probably gonna be more like $50
2013-05-31T16:49:41  <aestetix> but still
2013-05-31T16:50:57  <RangerZ> yeah
2013-05-31T16:51:31  <aestetix> if 100 people put in $50
2013-05-31T16:51:33  <RangerZ> http://www.nerdsnook.com/ is their site
2013-05-31T16:51:34  <aestetix> that would help them so much
2013-05-31T16:51:36  <GateKeeper> Title: Nerds Nook (at www.nerdsnook.com)
2013-05-31T17:31:55  <oddball> So... I probably should have tried to get a room near everyone else.  This hotel is fucking huge.  As in multiple buildings over 60 acres of land.
2013-05-31T17:33:26  <aestetix> So, for dragoncon
2013-05-31T17:33:36  <aestetix> the GF wants to rent a car, and maybe have a hotel within driving distance
2013-05-31T17:33:39  <aestetix> is that a good idea?
2013-05-31T17:36:01  <oddball> If you don't already have a hotel... good luck with that.
2013-05-31T17:36:39  <oddball> I would call the hotels in walking distance to see if you can still get a room... It's possible, but not likely.
2013-05-31T17:36:52  <aestetix> So, there's this thing called the scaling problem
2013-05-31T17:37:49  <aestetix> oddball: I've heard that you basically need to reserve a room the day after dragoncon ends
2013-05-31T17:37:55  <oddball> There are pay lots that are nearby, and lots of people do drive in each day, but having a room nearby is really damn nice.
2013-05-31T17:38:32  <aestetix> I'm sure.
2013-05-31T17:38:46  <oddball> aestetix: Well, yes and no... for the host hotels? yes.  For those around it?  Sometimes, and there are almost always cancelations right about now.
2013-05-31T17:38:47  <Dagmar> hahahah
2013-05-31T17:38:49  <Dagmar> Nope
2013-05-31T17:39:08  <oddball> There's also a MARTA station in walking distance of the con.
2013-05-31T17:39:09  <Dagmar> Look into maybe getting a decent hotel outside the loop
2013-05-31T17:39:26  <aestetix> So uh
2013-05-31T17:39:29  <Dagmar> oddball: Because downtown Atlanta is such a wonderful place to take the bus from
2013-05-31T17:39:30  <aestetix> How is this sustainable?
2013-05-31T17:39:34  <aestetix> It sounds like it's getting worse and worse
2013-05-31T17:39:37  <oddball> Dagmar: Eh... we got our reservation at the 12 2 months back.
2013-05-31T17:40:06  <oddball> Dagmar: Yeah... well... there is seriously hightened police presence during the con.
2013-05-31T17:40:17  <aestetix> Oh fuck, there's police presence too?
2013-05-31T17:40:22  <Dagmar> hahah
2013-05-31T17:40:30  <Dagmar> I bet you really just weren't thinking that statemnet through
2013-05-31T17:40:36  <aestetix> I went to a DragonCon in 2005, it sounds like it's changed a lot since then.
2013-05-31T17:40:44  <oddball> Dagmar: Yeah... fortunately the 12 is two blocks from the Hyatt on the main road.
2013-05-31T17:40:52  <aestetix> what's the 12
2013-05-31T17:41:04  <aestetix> found it
2013-05-31T17:41:41  <oddball> aestetix: Yes, but they're on their best behavior.  Most of the guys working the con (both inside the hotels and out) volunteer for the job.  They understand that us geeks are generally good people and want to see the costumes.
2013-05-31T17:42:10  <oddball> The asshats are the football fans there for the opening games at Georgia Tech a couple blocks away.
2013-05-31T17:42:17  <aestetix> ugh
2013-05-31T17:42:26  <aestetix> I don't know how our society tolerates the football douchebags
2013-05-31T17:43:22  <oddball> Oh, also... just a heads up... You do know that a good portion of the 501st is either military or LEO, right?
2013-05-31T17:43:34  <aestetix> The 501st?
2013-05-31T17:44:20  <oddball> The Star Wars fan club that's known for dressing up in storm trooper armor.
2013-05-31T17:44:29  <Dagmar> Oh look.  Complete idiots.  On Youtube.
2013-05-31T17:44:31  <Dagmar> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7tbt6lZTFc
2013-05-31T17:44:32  <GateKeeper> Title: Richard Madeley has a plan to fix the internet - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
2013-05-31T17:44:33  <Dagmar> THat's novel.
2013-05-31T17:45:37  <oddball> aestetix: I think I heard someone got into the Ritz recently too (it's right next to the Weston... which is a con hotel).
2013-05-31T17:45:47  <aestetix> ok
2013-05-31T17:46:11  <aestetix> and I'm guessing these hotels all jack up their rates for the con
2013-05-31T17:46:17  <aestetix> because the prices I'm seeing look like bay area prices
2013-05-31T17:46:43  <oddball> I would call them.  Hotel websites tend to be inaccurate as far as room vacancies.
2013-05-31T17:46:58  <aestetix> true
2013-05-31T17:47:06  <oddball> Actually, no... those are the normal rates, if not discounts.
2013-05-31T17:47:57  <oddball> Hotels in downtown Atlanta that don't make you feel like you're about to get shot/stabbed start at $200/night
2013-05-31T17:48:11  <oddball> Oh, and $20 parking/night.
2013-05-31T17:49:02  <oddball> Last I looked, the normal prices at the Marriot that's part of the con hotels start at $400.
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2013-05-31T17:55:17  <Dagmar> Mind you that's *because* of Dragon*Con, so you acutally are getting con rates
2013-05-31T17:55:45  <Dagmar> You don't want to pay that?  No problem.  There's 45,000 more lunatics who might be desperate enough to.
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2013-05-31T17:59:17  <oddball_> Bah... stupid Comcast.
2013-05-31T17:59:19  <aestetix> yep
2013-05-31T17:59:57  <aestetix> bah
2013-05-31T18:00:05  <aestetix> this hotel thing sounds like it's going to take a few hours to sort out
2013-05-31T18:00:44  <oddball_> Yeah... it probably will
2013-05-31T18:01:16  <aestetix> I found a hotel for 325 a night that's 6 miles from the con
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2013-05-31T18:01:22  <aestetix> and I'm just like.... eeeehhhh
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2013-05-31T18:01:42  <Shadow404> bring a motorcycle, easy to park
2013-05-31T18:01:56  <Shadow404> parking decks have spots for them that are almost never fully taken
2013-05-31T18:01:57  <aestetix> Shadow404: maybe I'll just crash at your place.
2013-05-31T18:02:13  <Shadow404> yeah....ill be in moving overdrive
2013-05-31T18:02:16  <oddball> I would offer you and your gf crash space in our room, but... uh... we're already at 5.
2013-05-31T18:02:20  <aestetix> heh
2013-05-31T18:02:36  <Shadow404> oddball: 2 more for the orgy isnt ok?
2013-05-31T18:02:44  <aestetix> I can't imagine what this must be like for the conference organizeres
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2013-05-31T18:04:03  <aestetix> It kind of seems like the burning man of the south
2013-05-31T18:04:26  <oddball> While I have been in rooms with more people than that... I've gotten older and crankier since then.
2013-05-31T18:04:34  <Shadow404> same
2013-05-31T18:04:43  <oddball> aestetix: You do realize that the official attendence that they hand to the fire marshall states that there's over 40k people, and the real attendence is closer to 50 something, right?
2013-05-31T18:04:53  <aestetix> oddball: of course
2013-05-31T18:04:54  <Shadow404> aestetix: alchemy
2013-05-31T18:04:58  <Shadow404> burnning man of the south
2013-05-31T18:06:35  <oddball> I've been told that part of the reason that the membership price keeps going up is in an attempt to price people out of attending and keeping the number down.
2013-05-31T18:06:54  <Shadow404> thats really mesed up
2013-05-31T18:07:12  <aestetix> oddball: sounds right
2013-05-31T18:07:16  <aestetix> it's the same problem defcon ran into
2013-05-31T18:11:55  <Dagmar> They should offer a discount to people who you can't smell
2013-05-31T18:12:25  <aestetix> haha
2013-05-31T18:13:52  <oddball> Dagmar: Bah... after the second day your nose clogs itself shut for its own protection.
2013-05-31T18:13:59  <Dagmar> Not mine.
2013-05-31T18:14:18  <Dagmar> After the first day my hands grow knives and flamethrowers
2013-05-31T18:14:38  <Dagmar> ...and I generally take a room in a hotel out of the stink radius
2013-05-31T18:15:00  <oddball> Naienko is saying that hers clogs up while in line for the membership.
2013-05-31T18:16:08  <oddball> And yes... we got a room in a non-host hotel on purpose... largely because walking a couple blocks and taking the elevator at the 12 tends to be faster than waiting for the elevators in a host hotel.
2013-05-31T18:26:08  <oddball> Speaking of hotels... I gave Dolemite grief about choosing the most expensive hotel in the area for Geeknic, but it is damn nice.  Basically all the rooms are apartments.
2013-05-31T18:26:39  <aestetix> I think I just got a room. I need to figure out which hotel it was in now
2013-05-31T18:27:38  <oddball> ha!
2013-05-31T18:29:44  <aestetix> it's one of the twelve hotels things
2013-05-31T18:29:59  <aestetix> Are both of them close to the con?
2013-05-31T18:30:09  <oddball> Oh... so one of the two.  One is in walking distance, and one is in short driving distance.
2013-05-31T18:30:20  <aestetix> ok
2013-05-31T18:30:36  <aestetix> It was like $200 a night
2013-05-31T18:30:38  <aestetix> I said fuck yes
2013-05-31T18:31:01  <oddball> Yeah.  Also... you just rented a small apartment for that weekend.
2013-05-31T18:31:27  <oddball> It's got a full kitchen (stove, oven, full sized fridge, etc)
2013-05-31T18:31:27  <aestetix> for $200?
2013-05-31T18:31:28  <aestetix> wow
2013-05-31T18:31:35  <oddball> yep.  The 12 fucking rocks.
2013-05-31T18:31:55  <aestetix> I think it's the atlantic something
2013-05-31T18:32:28  <oddball> I think that's the one that's not in walking distance, but you might be able to ride the MARTA.
2013-05-31T18:32:43  <aestetix> ok
2013-05-31T18:40:33  <aestetix> ok yeah it's a couple miles away
2013-05-31T18:44:00  <aestetix> oddball: I may try to get our reservation moved to the other hotel
2013-05-31T18:44:03  <aestetix> but at leaset now we have something
2013-05-31T18:46:04  <oddball> yep
2013-05-31T18:49:22  <aestetix> oddball: and yes that whole getting older thing kind of sucks, then again, I have a higher standard of living now :p
2013-05-31T18:49:37  <aestetix> the things that hurt hurt a lot more, but the nice things are way better
2013-05-31T18:53:18  <oddball> Right... and higher standard of living means less people in my room.
2013-05-31T18:53:27  <frsilent> I fucking hate people that buy domain name squatters
2013-05-31T18:53:35  <frsilent> *hate dom....s*
2013-05-31T18:54:02  <frsilent> Ketchum, Greg  GregK@qualitydomainnames.com <--this motherfucker
2013-05-31T18:57:40  <frsilent> Anyone know how go daddy's domain back order works? You get a chance to participate in an *auction* for the domain!?
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2013-05-31T19:22:59  <RangerZ> holy shit, huge tornado on a B line for Oklahoma city
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2013-05-31T20:30:39  <Bahhumbug> I've got the weather channel on, there hasn't been a confirmed sighting of a tornado yet, but there are at least two areas of indicated rotation, both heading right at the metro OKC area and Moore.
2013-05-31T21:07:30  <Bahhumbug> Debris signature and confirmed tornado in St. Charles, MO heading towards St. Louis.
2013-05-31T21:07:38  <Bahhumbug> Bleah, fuck you, Ma Nature.
2013-05-31T21:16:41  <aestetix> Wow.
2013-05-31T21:16:46  <aestetix> This is a shitty time to be in the midwest
2013-05-31T21:20:33  <Bahhumbug> Indeed.
2013-05-31T21:20:46  <Bahhumbug> This storm system is heading right at Chicago as well.
2013-05-31T21:20:57  <Bahhumbug> (general area in any event)
2013-05-31T21:21:05  <Bahhumbug> Ma Nature is a bitch.
2013-05-31T21:22:03  <aestetix> And I've been complaining about it being 80 degrees in the bay area
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