2013-05-29T00:16:02 http://feministcurrent.com/7689/rise-of-the-tiny-bikini-white-porn-chic-at-the-beach/ 2013-05-29T00:16:05 Title: Rise of the tiny bikini: White porn chic at the beach | Feminist Current (at feministcurrent.com) 2013-05-29T00:16:17 I will admit I didn't actually bother to read the article here 2013-05-29T00:16:28 sfw? 2013-05-29T00:17:08 debatable, honestly 2013-05-29T00:18:44 I do like the concept of a micro bikini 2013-05-29T01:11:07 you know... my understanding of whats becoming more common was that both male/female counterparts wanted 'tidy' (basically that girls want guys to be a bit more cleaned up to) 2013-05-29T01:12:10 and mongo shows up 12 minutes late 2013-05-29T01:12:34 no clue if that is really true or not, but i don't see any issue with a girl shaving, is there something i'm a sexist for "for not seeing" or something 2013-05-29T01:13:10 or is this a 'girls shouldn't think they have to do this' type of things 2013-05-29T01:14:12 we know you're sexist as for naming a defining reason I don't think that's necessary 2013-05-29T01:17:40 ahh 2013-05-29T01:17:53 true 2013-05-29T01:22:30 BEING ATTRACTIVE IS EVIL 2013-05-29T01:22:46 so.... dagmar's a saint? 2013-05-29T01:22:52 EVERYONE IS A RAPIST AND SHOULD FEEL BAD 2013-05-29T01:23:07 I'm just paraphrasing 2013-05-29T01:23:52 There's just *so* many fallacies on that site I don't even know where to begin 2013-05-29T01:24:27 You could start by just not bothering with it :) 2013-05-29T01:24:34 fallacies sounds too close to phallus. aestetix don't you know some man bashers that would.... awww fuck it too much typing 2013-05-29T01:25:47 MASHER! YOU ACKNOWLEGED THE EXISTENCE OF PENISES, ERGO YOU ARE A RAPIST! 2013-05-29T01:26:24 maybe. is she hot? 2013-05-29T01:27:12 http://www.xojane.com/fun/gallery/fatkini#1 2013-05-29T01:27:13 Title: The xoJane and Gabi Fresh Fatkini Gallery: 31 Hot Sexy Fat Girls in Skimpy Swimwear | xoJane (at www.xojane.com) 2013-05-29T01:27:15 wilpig: Never fear. If we have an invasion of radicals, I have a special song I'm prepariong 2013-05-29T01:27:39 from that article... wow... mostly ... no... just no... 2013-05-29T01:27:39 I want sheet music, odds are i'll feel like joining in 2013-05-29T01:28:10 Dagmar: http://goodmenproject.com/ http://www.timwise.org/ encase you're not feeling guilty enough about being male and white 2013-05-29T01:28:11 Title: The Good Men Project — (at goodmenproject.com) 2013-05-29T01:28:44 A friend of mine has recently lost all ability to think for himself and has gotten wrapped up in a white guilt trip. 2013-05-29T01:28:51 Well, that's an easy one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucdK3vn43S8 2013-05-29T01:28:52 Title: Mr Sandman Sheet Music - Link in Description - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 2013-05-29T01:30:37 http://colorlines.com/archives/2013/03/the_trouble_with_justin_timberlakes_appropriation_of_black_music.html 2013-05-29T01:30:38 Title: The Trouble With Justin Timberlakes Appropriation of Black Music - COLORLINES (at colorlines.com) 2013-05-29T01:30:58 I see the phrase "cis". I'm done. 2013-05-29T01:31:04 another one of the notions I'm surprised someone who supports opensource and open culture can get behind. 2013-05-29T01:31:22 Somehow it's possible to steal someone's culture from them by interpretting it in your own way. 2013-05-29T01:31:34 Sure, just look at step dancing. 2013-05-29T01:31:57 I wanna steal someone's culture. that sounds amusing 2013-05-29T01:32:02 It all started with the Harlem Shake meme being a great attrocity for the people of Harlem.. 2013-05-29T01:32:25 wilpig: you can be fat like me and i'll say you stole my culture 2013-05-29T01:32:30 but that didn't start in harlem 2013-05-29T01:33:00 Their argument is that the Harlem Shake meme appropriates black culture from harlem and turns it into a silly meme. 2013-05-29T01:33:17 they're dumb as shit and I don't care what they think 2013-05-29T01:33:56 http://www.racialicious.com/2013/03/26/the-problematics-of-the-fake-harlem-shake/ 2013-05-29T01:33:58 Title: The Problematics Of The Fake Harlem Shake | Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture (at www.racialicious.com) 2013-05-29T01:34:18 sdodson: let me guess. Another person trying to blame white people for it 2013-05-29T01:34:32 The mere notion of cultural appropriation is ludacris. 2013-05-29T01:34:37 heh 2013-05-29T01:34:48 I cannot steal your culture from you. 2013-05-29T01:35:08 wilpig: Actually, I'm suprised we're all here after Saturday night 2013-05-29T01:35:21 If I extend your culture and make it something else you should be happy. 2013-05-29T01:36:24 i wish i could sleep :-( 2013-05-29T01:36:39 http://www.newschannel5.com/story/22441970/colorado-marijuana-regulations-signed-into-law 2013-05-29T01:36:40 Title: Colorado Marijuana Regulations Signed Into Law - NewsChannel5.com | Nashville News, Weather & Sports (at www.newschannel5.com) 2013-05-29T01:36:56 So many places where that reads like heroic levels of deadpan 2013-05-29T01:37:21 "Colorado's new marijuana laws include buying limits for out-of-state visitors. Visitors over 21 would be limited to one-fourth of an ounce in a single retail transaction, [...]" 2013-05-29T01:37:35 That's like saying "Visitors are allowed to buy only one gallon of milk at a time." 2013-05-29T01:37:36 Sezin Koehler is a half-American half-Sri Lankan 2013-05-29T01:37:39 what? 2013-05-29T01:38:07 Some people had this legislation all drawn up already. 2013-05-29T01:38:12 Damn potheads! 2013-05-29T01:38:27 what happened on saturday night? 2013-05-29T01:38:34 Perhaps they take your ID down like they do when buying psuedoephedrine? 2013-05-29T01:38:57 wilpig: Ben did something useful. 2013-05-29T01:39:00 Pollen's so bad meth addicts are trying to convert their meth into psuedophed. 2013-05-29T01:39:16 yeah him calling I still don't see as useful 2013-05-29T01:39:17 wilpig: He actually called me to ask if I was going to start a change that I'd forgotten even requesting. 2013-05-29T01:39:29 he just backed that up with "why did the dates on these data center tours change" 2013-05-29T01:39:32 ITIL the bane of progress everywhere. 2013-05-29T01:39:55 yeah the other thing was that the change was to update vmware tools on mysql02 2013-05-29T01:40:02 the only thing I could think to say to that was "are you giving data center tours now?" which of course he isn't which just points out how meaningless it was to even ask about them 2013-05-29T01:40:19 It pretty much universally never works properly for me. I'd resorted to just always running vmware-config-tools.pl 2013-05-29T01:40:44 Except Saturday night I just clicked "Upgrade VMware Tools" and it actually fucking did it properly without requiring a reboot 2013-05-29T01:40:45 REplace that shit with RHEV bro! 2013-05-29T01:40:59 sdodson: Believe me I'd like to at this point 2013-05-29T01:41:26 I think RHEV has feature parity and a performance edge over VMWare in all but the most complicated setups. 2013-05-29T01:41:36 Now that RHEV does live storage migrations. 2013-05-29T01:41:57 sdodson: I have a problem arguing that vSphere is all that useful when it allows persons unknown to login and change the memory reservation ceiling on a 4GB webserver to 1Gb. 2013-05-29T01:42:20 Why yes, that *does* make the VM perform like ass. 2013-05-29T01:42:27 VMware may have a few extra features but you won't use them and you'll pay more for them than the operational efficiency you'd reap from deploying them. 2013-05-29T01:42:58 Well, I'm tearing into the vMware perl SDK right now on a managerial request 2013-05-29T01:43:35 THey asked me to do this to implement _disk monitors_ and I don't think they realize yet how far I'll take that 2013-05-29T01:43:55 There aren't plugins that do that already? 2013-05-29T01:43:58 If I cant' stop someone from fucking up the config on my VM hosts, I can damn well put monitors in place to catch that shit 2013-05-29T01:44:27 sdodson: We have another little problem in that our netsec people have been allowed to deploy firewalls across all networks, including the admin network 2013-05-29T01:45:34 * Bahhumbug chuckles 2013-05-29T01:45:36 I know that sounds like a non-sequitir but bear with me 2013-05-29T01:45:57 overly complicated networks just keep people from doing their jobs 2013-05-29T01:46:02 SNMP traffic is being dropped occasionally and at random in more than one of their firewalls 2013-05-29T01:46:22 AND... one of the things they were failing to comprehend is that Nagios checks have a time limit of ten seconds. Period. 2013-05-29T01:46:54 They were doing all disks disk usage monitors, while aforementioned SAN was overloading, causing it to take more than ten seconds to come up with df output 2013-05-29T01:47:45 We have app tiers that receive more traffic from nagios and load balancer health checks than they do real customer traffic. 2013-05-29T01:47:48 Since, these queries also BLOCK on the snmpd, it also made the concurrent NTP time sync checks fail as well 2013-05-29T01:48:19 I'm jsut waiting for someone to say "How can we make monitoring reliable?" 2013-05-29T01:48:37 Because honestly, this vSphere SDK is not what we should be doing. 2013-05-29T01:49:03 It'll work, but I'm going to pull extra functionality out of it 2013-05-29T01:49:35 Fixing the goddamn storage checks is just a matter of crontab and a shell script and one extend directive so they can just be run asynchronously 2013-05-29T01:49:42 It's not even fucking hard. 2013-05-29T01:50:34 I want a freakin VLAN that is entirely unfirewalled for monitoring and monitoring only 2013-05-29T01:50:49 No logins, no remote execution 2013-05-29T01:52:45 http://www.vmware.com/virtualization/why-choose-vmware/trusted-platform.html "Innovation continues, get ready for the next release 2012" 2013-05-29T01:52:46 Title: VMware: Best Virtualization Platform (at www.vmware.com) 2013-05-29T01:54:08 aperson: Speaking of which... does jerky drying on a rack go bad? 2013-05-29T01:54:12 !@#!@# 2013-05-29T01:56:30 It can mold and stuff. so maybe? 2013-05-29T01:56:48 wilpig: I was wondering about a mechanic in Don't Starve 2013-05-29T01:57:19 well then. wrong channel. lol 2013-05-29T02:08:12 *** sasquatc3 has joined #se2600 2013-05-29T02:08:12 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o sasquatc3 2013-05-29T02:10:10 *** sasquatc4 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2013-05-29T02:45:10 Dagmar: yes, it can go bad, just like drying out fruit can go bad too 2013-05-29T02:47:13 "Your OUYA has arrived at our distribution center and we expect it to land on your doorstep within the next two weeks (give or take a day or two depending on your location)." 2013-05-29T02:47:30 we'll see what they did to fix the controller 2013-05-29T02:51:40 and with the Xbox ONE, it might fill a nice niche market 2013-05-29T02:51:55 you know... something to play games, LOL 2013-05-29T03:05:55 but who are you going to pay $13 a month to use an appliance that you already bought to watch tv with? 2013-05-29T03:20:23 huh? 2013-05-29T03:20:29 ohh 2013-05-29T03:20:50 yeah, thats IF they do a subsidized version, which who knows if they are at this point 2013-05-29T03:21:13 otherwise its 60$/year ( i think) 2013-05-29T03:21:34 but sadly playstation plus is actually a lot better value now, you get 16 free games, that rotate in and out 2013-05-29T03:21:43 and you build a library of free games 2013-05-29T03:22:03 as long as you are a plus member, and you can get them back if you quit and come back, etc 2013-05-29T03:59:46 omg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocIzWEqiUnU#! 2013-05-29T03:59:47 Title: Trotcon Trotcon Trotcon!!! Feat. Peter New - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 2013-05-29T04:08:26 that looks ponyish 2013-05-29T04:19:59 ohio... really thats something for luiseville 2013-05-29T04:21:05 was here here where we were talking about mormons the other day? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzfCtGFgRSk 2013-05-29T04:21:06 Title: Stephen Fry: Mormon Encounter - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 2013-05-29T04:22:34 *** RangerZ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-05-29T07:17:09 *** Dolemite has joined #se2600 2013-05-29T07:17:09 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Dolemite 2013-05-29T07:17:10 mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 2013-05-29T07:24:33 * wilpig eyes dolemite 2013-05-29T07:26:25 there are new buttons on the devices page for switches 2013-05-29T07:26:27 try them out 2013-05-29T07:26:52 let me know if you have any oddities from the page width 2013-05-29T07:27:00 k 2013-05-29T07:27:11 entering a change request for a power outage right now 2013-05-29T07:27:20 crap. I just found one. damnit all 2013-05-29T07:27:28 then I need to come up with some kind of simple registration form for Saturday 2013-05-29T07:28:17 I'll deal with this bug later. I'm gonna redo the switch UI code anyway 2013-05-29T07:28:30 did you find any problems with the media types or color codes? 2013-05-29T07:28:57 no, because I didn't get a chance to look 2013-05-29T07:29:36 k. showed peter the snmp stuff yesterday after my performance eval and he said that feature will make openDCIM trump what the medcenter uses 2013-05-29T07:30:46 oh and you're gonna want to dump your deviceports table 2013-05-29T07:31:03 you probably have a million and one duplicates. I found an fixed a bug last night 2013-05-29T07:31:37 personally off of my 48 port switch I was up to over 4500 2013-05-29T07:31:50 ok 2013-05-29T07:32:04 so how'd the performance eval go? 2013-05-29T07:32:53 just fine. "I want you out of the noc this year. if you can't get a position with vanderbilt i'll give you a letter of recommendation for anywhere" 2013-05-29T07:34:20 Right. Like he's not one that's kept you from moving elsewhere within Vanderbilt. 2013-05-29T07:34:42 yeah but i'm not supposed to know that 2013-05-29T07:35:14 that was followed by he wants me to train the next new person that comes in and he'd like me to teach the others how to make cable like I do 2013-05-29T07:35:39 to which I said the only way for them to make cable like me is to make as many cables as I have 2013-05-29T07:36:36 That and to remove their asses from their chairs 2013-05-29T07:44:54 *** opensorcerer has joined #se2600 2013-05-29T08:10:33 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 2013-05-29T08:20:37 time to head home 2013-05-29T08:20:39 later 2013-05-29T09:01:08 anyone in here have any switches that are managed and aren't cisco? 2013-05-29T09:15:51 I think the way I have it now we should be good for any IF-MIB compliant managed switch 2013-05-29T09:17:26 I'm getting a dump from a netgear later 2013-05-29T09:17:31 didn't realize they even have them 2013-05-29T09:18:19 kenny told me in person he could get me some read access to a few test devices then just backpeddled and is claiming his director(matthews) will need to be asked and he's not gonna blah blah blah 2013-05-29T09:19:08 he's acting like i'm asking for all the switches and not just the small stuff they have in the test lab. 2013-05-29T09:20:55 oh and I found out yesterday that the medcenter main datacenter has a 14" sewage pipe running above their ceiling 2013-05-29T09:21:14 AND it has sprung leaks before.... INTO racks.... LOL 2013-05-29T09:23:19 eww 2013-05-29T09:24:24 Yep, I knew that 2013-05-29T09:24:30 It's been a running joke for ages 2013-05-29T09:24:47 They're in the basement, and there are bathrooms on the floor above tem 2013-05-29T09:24:49 them 2013-05-29T09:25:12 The sewage pipe is an old iron one, and has had spots rust out in the past and leak out 2013-05-29T09:25:34 To replace the full pipe would be a major issue and likely require an outage in their data center 2013-05-29T09:25:51 it came up again because of an audit last year and they were supposed to deal with it but I was told nobody wanted to pay for it. 2013-05-29T09:26:12 Yeah, I'll bet it would be quite expensive 2013-05-29T09:26:14 the new CIO is wanting to combine the datacenters officially now 2013-05-29T09:26:35 Not the piping, but the mitigation of the work, would be the expensive part 2013-05-29T09:26:41 so they're in the middle of auditing procedures and everything from both sides to make a common plan, etc 2013-05-29T09:27:15 Yeah, that was the carrot they kept dangling in front of me 2013-05-29T09:27:27 I was going to get promoted to director and be over all data centers 2013-05-29T09:27:48 wait til you see this email I just forwarded you... you'd think I was plotting to replace him or something 2013-05-29T09:28:59 *** Synx|hm has joined #se2600 2013-05-29T09:29:28 Well I can understand his concern 2013-05-29T09:29:56 Though I think you should mention it's not a constant poll - just a very infrequent, ad hoc one to get the port names when you enter it into inventory 2013-05-29T09:31:06 So what is the "Refresh" button for the switches supposed to do? Does that refresh the port names? 2013-05-29T09:31:54 the function is at the top look for "switchrefresh" 2013-05-29T09:32:18 the php portion there can be altered to do whatever 2013-05-29T09:32:23 *** jonny_X has joined #se2600 2013-05-29T09:32:28 right now it pulls the list of ports and redraws the screen 2013-05-29T09:32:39 *** jonnyx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2013-05-29T09:33:19 basically refreshes the link status 2013-05-29T09:33:24 yes 2013-05-29T09:33:46 we can add an optional parameter to the poll function that if it is set it will pull the notes and whatnot again 2013-05-29T09:39:51 I was thinking about doing that on an individual port basis 2013-05-29T09:41:08 Dunno if that's overkill or not, but definitely need it to pull in the ifAlias values on demand when doing a refresh. 2013-05-29T09:43:05 it's pulling from getPortList 2013-05-29T09:43:09 https://github.com/samilliken/openDCIM/blob/master/devices.php#L183 2013-05-29T09:43:10 Title: openDCIM/devices.php at master · samilliken/openDCIM · GitHub (at github.com) 2013-05-29T09:43:53 then I extend that object to add the status directly to it. then swap the media id out for the name, same with colorid so I can kick back to the browser one array with each line in the array being a port on the switch 2013-05-29T09:48:07 *** RangerZ has joined #se2600 2013-05-29T10:14:41 *** benthemeek has joined #se2600 2013-05-29T10:14:41 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o benthemeek 2013-05-29T10:40:02 *** RangerZ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-05-29T10:50:42 http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NtCL9CaErCk/TrbAFuuJezI/AAAAAAAAC5I/Ly-sIpXNbWE/s1600/tumblr_lo10ppTBTv1qgneyro1_500.jpg circumcision gone wrong 2013-05-29T10:50:46 probably nsfw 2013-05-29T10:55:48 dell financial services sales blows 2013-05-29T10:56:03 huge fucking scratch in the monitor i ordered, do they even look at these things? 2013-05-29T11:03:51 *** RangerZ has joined #se2600 2013-05-29T11:08:04 aestetix: wow that sucks, im trying to make the decision right now for my soon to be born son 2013-05-29T11:10:20 what decision? 2013-05-29T11:10:26 circumcision 2013-05-29T11:10:30 ahh 2013-05-29T11:10:50 there are medical reasons to get it, and to not get it 2013-05-29T11:11:06 kinda a hard decision IMHO 2013-05-29T11:11:13 Yep, there are pros and cons on both sides 2013-05-29T11:11:25 And plenty of passionate non-scientific reasonings 2013-05-29T11:11:38 i was honestly thinking about it the other day (not that I have a kid or anything) 2013-05-29T11:12:17 and i figured I would come down to doing it, b/c circumcised boys have a MUCH less chance of catching a lot of STDs 2013-05-29T11:12:56 And urinary tract infections 2013-05-29T11:12:58 but thats just the info i read years and years ago, don't know if that has held up 2013-05-29T11:13:10 RangerZ: ehhhh most of those medical reasons aren't valid anymore 2013-05-29T11:13:23 IE infection and such 2013-05-29T11:13:27 shut up you russian commie 2013-05-29T11:13:31 what 2013-05-29T11:13:32 lol 2013-05-29T11:13:38 I hear that paedophiles prefer uncircumcised children! 2013-05-29T11:13:54 is that true aestetix? 2013-05-29T11:14:23 RangerZ: there have been a lot of misconceptions over the years. Circumcision reached its peak on the 70s/80s, it's seen a decline since then 2013-05-29T11:14:36 Also, it's worth noting that most Europeans are not circumcized 2013-05-29T11:14:37 I'm aware 2013-05-29T11:15:01 I know it is suppose to dull the sensations of the male who has it done somewhat 2013-05-29T11:15:09 Ehhh 2013-05-29T11:15:38 but a lot of that was 'quasi' stuff that I don't know if it is still held as 'real' or not 2013-05-29T11:15:44 I do have a friend who was circumcized at the age of 18 for an infection.... he still seems to have a happy sex life 2013-05-29T11:16:14 But in general I don't see any real reason to do it. Unless of course there's an actual infection. 2013-05-29T11:17:08 Synx|hm: you could always ask your male friends if they are circumcized :p 2013-05-29T11:17:18 ya, had an old gf who was filipino and both of her brothers were circumcized at 16 2013-05-29T11:17:21 YIKES 2013-05-29T11:17:23 *doesn't know really* since both seem to have perfectly fine sex lives 2013-05-29T11:17:51 i could take a look at my wang too as its cut ;) 2013-05-29T11:18:49 ill need to find some doner dick to inspect that is not circumcised 2013-05-29T11:19:02 it will be completely clinical 2013-05-29T11:19:25 Synx|hm: ask your friends if they'll let you inspect their dongs 2013-05-29T11:19:38 what could possibly go wrong 2013-05-29T11:19:41 ill do it this weekend while im on reserve drill 2013-05-29T11:19:55 sure it will go over great with the military bros 2013-05-29T11:19:57 haha 2013-05-29T11:19:59 Just rent some Euro porno 2013-05-29T11:20:01 just look at some asian porn 2013-05-29T11:20:03 if they are shy about it just print up a "dong inspector" ID badge 2013-05-29T11:20:12 hell yes 2013-05-29T11:20:18 just tell them it is part of obama care 2013-05-29T11:20:22 they will hate him already 2013-05-29T11:20:27 haha 2013-05-29T11:22:00 Maybe you could show them yours and ask them to show you theirs 2013-05-29T11:22:14 we can play a little game of just the tip 2013-05-29T11:22:16 just say its for science or something 2013-05-29T11:23:17 Tell them you're not sure who to the father is, so you're taking pictures to get the baby to pick out Daddy from a lineup 2013-05-29T11:23:32 s/to the/the 2013-05-29T11:23:34 ha, a dick lineup 2013-05-29T11:23:48 how would looking at their dongs tell you who the father is? 2013-05-29T11:24:07 TIL 2013-05-29T11:24:09 JESUS' FORESKIN 2013-05-29T11:24:10 In the Middle Ages, the reputed foreskin of Jesus became a popular relic in the Catholic world, drawing the devoted in droves to a city near Rome to revere flesh they held as sacred. Over time, several other foreskins turned up in Europe, with various churches offering versions as the authentic foreskin of the Savior. The Vatican soon tired of this, and in the 20th century the Vatican forbade any mention of the relic, with punishment for this 2013-05-29T11:24:32 ... 2013-05-29T11:24:41 ok i can see the shroud of turin being a relic 2013-05-29T11:24:46 but... 2013-05-29T11:26:46 Jesus was Jewish, therefore his foreskin would have been removed at birth 2013-05-29T11:26:50 I've got like three 2013-05-29T11:27:33 Dolemite: because you know, they totally would have kept it 2013-05-29T11:27:40 aestetix: The dick lineup would be for the baby to identify who poked him/her repeatedly over the past 9 months 2013-05-29T11:28:36 WHODUNIT? THE CASE OF THE MISSING FORESKIN 2013-05-29T11:28:37 Before trained mohels took over, Jewish mothers once circumcised their own children. The Jews likely learned the practice from the Ancient Egyptians who themselves were circumcised by a priest using his gold-adorned thumbnail. In ancient Turkey, barbers -- who also performed bloodlettings and amputations in the latter Middle Ages -- performed the operation [source: Dunsmuir]. 2013-05-29T11:28:42 ... 2013-05-29T11:28:52 gold-adorned thumbnail, nope nope nope 2013-05-29T11:33:53 RangerZ: I forgot, have you studied law? 2013-05-29T11:33:56 I feel like someone in here has 2013-05-29T11:41:51 so uh 2013-05-29T11:42:11 I might be doing a nym talk at dragoncon. Can you guys think of anyone who is opposed to nyms who I could debate? 2013-05-29T11:42:29 nym? 2013-05-29T11:42:35 ie nymrights.org 2013-05-29T11:42:44 online anonymity, etc 2013-05-29T11:42:55 There could be a panel, I like the idea of a debate though 2013-05-29T12:06:02 *** jonnyx has joined #se2600 2013-05-29T12:07:43 *** jonny_X has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2013-05-29T12:15:31 *** v4mp has joined #se2600 2013-05-29T13:23:46 aestetix: I think you're asking the wrong crowd for someone to oppose that. 2013-05-29T13:38:45 oddball: true 2013-05-29T13:38:49 maybe I'll ask the twitterverse 2013-05-29T13:39:21 I think I could point you to my mom... but she's not going anywhere near Dragoncon. 2013-05-29T13:39:59 Also... the debate would be short and and with her saying "well, I'm just a [grandmother/mother/former school teacher]." 2013-05-29T13:40:27 Which means "I'm not interested in your facts. This is the way I feel and you won't convince me otherwise." 2013-05-29T13:40:29 *** v4mp has quit IRC () 2013-05-29T13:40:56 Hell, I had to have the conversation about how not all hackers were evil hackers *again* the other day. 2013-05-29T13:41:26 hmm 2013-05-29T13:41:38 maybe military or government types? 2013-05-29T13:41:50 then again, someone like that wouldn't be going to dragoncon 2013-05-29T13:41:59 It's not like I haven't been involved with se2600 for over a decade or anything. 2013-05-29T13:42:24 You'd be suprised. A good portion of the 501st is military or LEO. 2013-05-29T13:43:16 Which is why I keep wanting to witness the day that the stupid frat boys there for the football game succede in picking a fight with "those geeks in stormtrooper armor." 2013-05-29T13:45:47 I think you're misusing the word 'fight' there. Perhaps 'slaughter' would be more appropriate? 2013-05-29T13:45:59 oddball: Did you serve? 2013-05-29T13:46:03 Yes... and it will be glorious. 2013-05-29T13:46:14 Bahhumbug: Nope... tried but my eyesight was too bad. 2013-05-29T13:46:24 Thank you for trying :) 2013-05-29T13:47:50 Going through the testing at the MIPS station was... interesting. 2013-05-29T13:48:44 And honestly, I probably could have successfully fought the eyesight thing. When the recruiter saw my test scores, he was trying damn hard to figure out a way around it for me. 2013-05-29T13:49:26 Man, I would LOVE the chance to debate an LEO on stage 2013-05-29T13:55:18 wtf, my sandwich bread tastes and smells very odd, but looks and feels completly normal 2013-05-29T13:55:33 really odd smell i cant put my finger on, maybe sour smelling 2013-05-29T13:55:38 did ware deliver it to you? 2013-05-29T13:56:01 maybe i should stop eating it now 2013-05-29T13:56:39 what does it taste like? 2013-05-29T13:57:08 in other news i need to convince the very pregnant wife to accompany me to a bar or Buffalo wild wings tonight to watch game 7 CHI vs DET 2013-05-29T13:57:27 tastes like it smells off though i cant put my finger on it im thinking a sour taste 2013-05-29T13:57:39 maybe yeast 2013-05-29T13:58:34 actually its a bit hard too maybe it is yeast 2013-05-29T14:03:36 hey kind of a weird question but was wondering if anyone had experience in this kind of political tip-toeing 2013-05-29T14:04:13 I'm about to leave my "internship/part-time" position but wanted to leave something good for the guys I manage now as their workload is going to increase tremendously (moving office of campus & such) 2013-05-29T14:04:54 but I was hoping to a) talk to my current boss about negotiating raises b) give them advice to negotiate their own or c) have them bring it up in code review or something 2013-05-29T14:06:26 not run into that before :( 2013-05-29T14:07:44 I'm just wondering about the least abrasive way to do it 2013-05-29T14:13:17 hrm 2013-05-29T14:13:25 your boss cool or a assdouche? 2013-05-29T14:14:01 meh...he's cool but strange; ie is my age, watches anime, makes terrible jokes, & brews beer 2013-05-29T14:14:15 nothing strange there :) 2013-05-29T14:14:16 but...is kind of really really bad at managing so let's the corporate boss push him around 2013-05-29T14:14:31 & micromanages...a...whole...lot 2013-05-29T14:14:46 id say talk to him, let me know the people you manage have been working their assess off and you think its time for compensation 2013-05-29T14:14:58 obviously say it with more tact 2013-05-29T14:15:36 then id probably mention it to the people too so when you leave if the boss just shrugs it off they at least know you tried and can ask for themselves or move on 2013-05-29T14:15:52 take em all out to lunch too 2013-05-29T14:16:19 good input, ty =D 2013-05-29T14:16:42 np, i dont really have much real world exp though btw 2013-05-29T14:17:24 all my previous exp has consisted of telling people to go fuck themselves and waiting until new commanders show up in a year or two haha 2013-05-29T14:18:04 gotta run for a bit, if you end up doing somethign let me know how it works out 2013-05-29T14:19:50 alright will do, ty again 2013-05-29T14:20:38 *** opensorcerer has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-05-29T15:03:08 god I hate this cycle 2013-05-29T15:03:31 there is an issue with the system. I get messages about it. I reply "did you look at the recent code commits?" 2013-05-29T15:03:50 over and over, insisting that it must be an issue with the systems. arguing with customers about it. 2013-05-29T15:04:10 Finally after a while, someone else looks it up and finds a culprit in the code. 2013-05-29T15:04:23 commit a fix, push to production, and it works again 2013-05-29T15:15:38 *** Dolemite has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2013-05-29T15:34:36 *** Synx|hm_ has joined #se2600 2013-05-29T15:36:37 *** Synx|hm has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2013-05-29T15:56:04 *** jonny_X has joined #se2600 2013-05-29T16:00:40 *** jonnyx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-05-29T16:01:18 *** scribbles has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) 2013-05-29T16:04:24 *** scribbles has joined #se2600 2013-05-29T17:43:15 "You want me to work like I mean it? Pay me like you mean it. 2013-05-29T17:43:16 " 2013-05-29T17:43:29 ok so 2013-05-29T17:43:35 liberty reserve. Anyone have opinions on it? 2013-05-29T17:43:46 Crime lords lol! 2013-05-29T17:43:53 They just got shut down a day or two ago. I'm trying to figure out how it's different than ..... using cash. 2013-05-29T17:44:12 They didn't bribe enough gov't officials. 2013-05-29T17:44:22 They should have set up shop in the Caymans like everyone els.e 2013-05-29T17:44:58 aestetix: it was just a company doing money laundering 2013-05-29T17:44:58 A reporter is asking me about it because it relates to online anonymity, apparently 2013-05-29T17:45:04 Their customers probably _were_ laundering money 2013-05-29T17:45:06 And I'm really wondering how it's different from using cash 2013-05-29T17:45:23 ...but without bribes being paid to a gov't somewhere, it's generally not allowed. 2013-05-29T17:45:29 it isn't much, just... that its digital, and doesn't go through MC/Visa/ banks 2013-05-29T17:45:40 RangerZ: that's what I figured. 2013-05-29T17:45:55 The thing is, this happened right after MtGox got raided 2013-05-29T17:45:56 aestetix: large wads of cash crossing borders are required to be declared to customs can take some of it 2013-05-29T17:46:13 they had 6billion in funds 2013-05-29T17:46:15 aestetix: They're trying to head off Assassination Politics. 2013-05-29T17:46:17 Ok. And Liberty didn't have a limit on how much cash could go by? 2013-05-29T17:46:22 they were NOT paying taxes on all that 2013-05-29T17:46:56 BitCoins are literally the last piece of that partcular puzzle. 2013-05-29T17:47:41 I mean, Liberty seems to be basically the same as cash, except that cash is a physical object that has to be moved around. 2013-05-29T17:48:02 basically liberty had the 'audacity' to act like a bank 2013-05-29T17:48:11 without agreeing to be regulated like one 2013-05-29T17:48:28 uhhh 2013-05-29T17:48:34 i.e., they didn't pay the bribes 2013-05-29T17:49:01 which also helps us know that our banks are FDIC 2013-05-29T17:49:02 etc 2013-05-29T17:49:03 That's interesting 2013-05-29T17:49:05 but yeah 2013-05-29T17:49:31 Regulation seems to do two things.... ensure the money will be there for the customers, and ensure the fed can track it all 2013-05-29T17:49:43 It sounds like Liberty is more of a "bank at your own risk" setup 2013-05-29T17:49:53 its the same thing swiss did since just after the knights templar were destroyed (who invented banking) 2013-05-29T17:50:06 in which case, looking at the history of distributed banks, why didn't they just cause a bank run on liberty? 2013-05-29T17:50:07 until just recently (after 9/11/2001) 2013-05-29T17:50:13 and cause it to shut down via natural means 2013-05-29T17:50:49 there is lots of evidence that the swiss was were the remnants of the knights templar went after 'friday the 13th' 2013-05-29T17:50:57 RangerZ: right 2013-05-29T17:51:04 thats why they were so secretive about their banks 2013-05-29T17:51:09 they didn't want to be found out 2013-05-29T17:51:23 and that tradition stayed until modernity 2013-05-29T17:51:49 ...which is why well-heeled criminals are expected to launder their cash through _numbered, Swiss_ accounts. 2013-05-29T17:51:52 so here is the quesion the reporter asked me 2013-05-29T17:52:01 Do you feel that the seizing of Liberty Reserve is indicative of governments trying to control or shut down anonymous currency exchanges online, or even online anonymity in general? 2013-05-29T17:52:09 but not anymore dagmar, they are opening up to US IRS 2013-05-29T17:52:12 I need to figure out what flavor of "yes" to reply with 2013-05-29T17:52:24 I think in this case they are just nailing some criminals 2013-05-29T17:52:32 The MtGox thing is another matter entirely 2013-05-29T17:52:42 This reminds me a bit of megaupload 2013-05-29T17:52:43 i'd say 'no' personally, they were shut down, b/c illegal $ was going through it 2013-05-29T17:52:49 It's probably improper to conflate the two 2013-05-29T17:53:03 Wherein they no there's some illegal stuff going down, and rather than hone in on it, they just took the whole thing down 2013-05-29T17:53:10