2013-04-24T00:10:07  <sdodson> stop clinging to your guns and... well guns
2013-04-24T00:18:00  <aestetix_> heh
2013-04-24T00:18:17  <aestetix_> some friends found out the hard way that all work email is work property
2013-04-24T00:18:32  <aestetix_> someone got fired, and then their boss started going through their email
2013-04-24T00:18:47  <aestetix_> and I'm like "well, it is work property.... all you can do is not use work email for non-work purposes"
2013-04-24T01:22:55  <Dagmar> Just mail yourself an email once a week that says "One of these mails contains something that Can Not Be Unseen.  Happy snooping!"
2013-04-24T01:35:15  <Dagmar> There is just a wee bit of Mary Sueing going on in Homeland
2013-04-24T01:35:45  <Dagmar> I mean, running into three of the EFFs founders playing D&D with miniatures in a yurt at Burning Man?
2013-04-24T01:35:49  <Dagmar> Riiiight.
2013-04-24T01:36:19  <Dagmar> I'm sorry, but that's really pushing suspension of disbelief
2013-04-24T01:37:25  <Dagmar> "exorbitant"?
2013-04-24T01:37:28  <Dagmar> wrong chan
2013-04-24T01:37:46  <aestetix_> heh
2013-04-24T02:56:14  <RangerZ> so anyone got a lead on a job in nashville for a friend of mine, retail, not super trained, etc...
2013-04-24T02:56:28  <RangerZ> so office work, or anything like that is fine
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2013-04-24T07:34:42  <Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
2013-04-24T07:37:00  * wilpig_ pimp slams Dolemite 
2013-04-24T07:37:13  <Dolemite> Oh no you di-unt!
2013-04-24T07:40:56  <Dolemite> What's shakin'?
2013-04-24T07:42:07  <wilpig_> wanting to run over smurfs for fun and no profit
2013-04-24T07:42:22  <Dolemite> Ah, you boogers in Nashville are so violent
2013-04-24T07:45:13  <wilpig_> nah i've just got a few that are really fucking pissing me off
2013-04-24T07:45:32  <wilpig_> and when it takes three to take out any one portal it just infuriates me that much more
2013-04-24T07:49:43  <Dolemite> Well there's that recent change that makes it more difficult to take out higher level portals, and those with more links
2013-04-24T07:50:29  <wilpig_> oh yeah i'm well aware
2013-04-24T07:50:55  <wilpig_> and we knew it and had the city cemetery up as high as we could get it til a zerg of smurfs came and took it over and leveled it beyond a point where we can touch it
2013-04-24T07:51:42  <wilpig_> they have this notion that they're working together as a team but it's just a zerg mob of lvl8's running from point to point
2013-04-24T07:54:42  <wilpig_> i'm all for strategy and working as a team toward something but that isn't what this is
2013-04-24T07:55:00  <wilpig_> their current strategy is annoy the other side til they just fuckin' quit outright
2013-04-24T07:58:47  <Dolemite> meh.  We're actually a little more cooperative here.
2013-04-24T07:59:13  <Dolemite> The L8s that have been around the longest kind of help herd the lower levels
2013-04-24T07:59:46  <wilpig_> the lvl8's here just run around blowing up everything in sight multiple times daily
2013-04-24T08:00:09  <wilpig_> pretty sure a few don't have jobs  from the way that they move about and when
2013-04-24T08:02:42  <wilpig_> you also don't have near the number of people around playing as we do
2013-04-24T08:03:16  <Dolemite> Very true - but there seem to be a lot more coming online recently (including myself)
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2013-04-24T08:38:20  <wilpig_> japan worries me. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KiWUaeGcxMI/UBDckSaBiLI/AAAAAAAAAXI/u4L9sne2lRo/s1600/6056738120_47cc9aa438_z.jpg
2013-04-24T08:50:13  <Dolemite> Hahahahahahahahahahahaha  http://www.thefrisky.com/2013-04-18/sorority-girl-shows-the-true-meaning-of-sisterhood-by-calling-her-sisters-retarded/
2013-04-24T08:56:37  * aestetix_ hugs Dolemite 
2013-04-24T09:19:44  <aestetix_> ok so
2013-04-24T09:19:47  <aestetix_> I am watching some CEH modules
2013-04-24T09:20:03  <aestetix_> why do they slap the word "ethical" into it?
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2013-04-24T09:28:43  <aestetix_> It actually seems like most "hacking" tutorial type stuff I've seen, except obviously packaged and targeted to companies
2013-04-24T09:29:22  <wilpig_> wonderful.  all my ups's are going off
2013-04-24T09:29:39  <aestetix_> nice
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2013-04-24T12:48:55  <RangerZ> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/04/24/1458203/federal-magistrate-rules-that-fifth-amendment-applies-to-encryption-keys
2013-04-24T12:48:56  <GateKeeper> Title: Federal Magistrate Rules That Fifth Amendment Applies To Encryption Keys - Slashdot (at yro.slashdot.org)
2013-04-24T12:49:06  <RangerZ> thats nice to see
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2013-04-24T13:26:35  <Dagmar> I s'pose.
2013-04-24T13:27:23  <Dagmar> I'd pretty much determined that any request for my keez was going to be getting a first round answer of "No" and a second round answer of "Is 'no' a big word in the hillbilly backwater you grew up in?"
2013-04-24T13:28:21  <Dagmar> aestetix: because without "ethical" in it, clearly you're a motherfucking criminal
2013-04-24T13:28:52  <Dagmar> Hence the exemption from CFAA prosecution for soulless, undying corporations in CISPA
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2013-04-24T13:51:07  <aestetix_> Dagmar: indeed
2013-04-24T13:51:20  <aestetix_> Heh.
2013-04-24T13:51:32  <aestetix_> Kinda like the NSA exemption within FISA for companies :)
2013-04-24T13:51:52  <Dagmar> They're only going to engage in "ethical" counterattacks when they have a "good faith" impression that something poses a "threat"
2013-04-24T13:52:05  <Dagmar> Like, someone said a bad thing about them on a blog.  That could hurt their stock's value.
2013-04-24T13:52:39  <Dagmar> They need to legally be able to hire Russians to rush in there, delete the post, and dig out incriminating photos of the poster.
2013-04-24T13:53:09  <Dagmar> eddyb: http://www.milliondollarhomepage.com/
2013-04-24T13:53:10  <GateKeeper> Title: The Million Dollar Homepage - Own a piece of internet history! (at www.milliondollarhomepage.com)
2013-04-24T13:53:13  <Dagmar> @#$#@$ wrong channel
2013-04-24T13:57:08  <aestetix_> ok so I was right
2013-04-24T13:57:11  <aestetix_> ethical = for a company
2013-04-24T13:57:19  <aestetix_> or ethical = making a company look good
2013-04-24T13:58:02  <Dagmar> Yes.  ...because it's always legal when it's for the right reasons, and protecting a company's bottom line is always right.
2013-04-24T13:58:30  <aestetix_> so if I were to create a company called "aestetix" and did things that were in aestetix's interests, that would be ethical?
2013-04-24T13:58:36  <Dagmar> Just code up a module that makes them spread and permutate
2013-04-24T13:58:39  <Dagmar> @#%$#@$
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2013-04-24T14:21:19  <oddball> Headlines you can't make up: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/mormon-bishop-samurai-sword-runs-attacker
2013-04-24T14:21:28  <oddball> Mormon bishop with Samurai sword runs off attacker
2013-04-24T14:27:50  <Dagmar> ...because it's not just a katana, it's a goddamn Samurai sword!
2013-04-24T14:29:23  <Dagmar> "On the ground" indeed.
2013-04-24T14:29:41  <oddball> Hey, I'm giving the press credit for not calling it a rapier or something.
2013-04-24T14:29:43  <Dagmar> In a situation like that what you want to say is "IT'S TIME TO COLLECT SOME SOUVENIRS!"
2013-04-24T14:30:06  <Dagmar> ...or "IMMA CHOP OFF UR FACE!"
2013-04-24T14:30:33  <oddball> Oh, wait... according the press, all swords are "samurai swords," and all guns are Glocks.
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2013-04-24T16:32:30  <Dagmar> As if we needed more reasons to hate IE...
2013-04-24T16:32:48  <Dagmar> TIL that IE10 actually fucks up the first argument on simple GET requests with arguments in the URI.
2013-04-24T16:36:30  <opticron> how does that even happen?
2013-04-24T16:36:50  <opticron> such basic functionality...
2013-04-24T16:38:25  <Dagmar> Fuck if I know
2013-04-24T16:38:57  <Dagmar> Someone was having problems with cacti, and I sort of snidely suggested they stop using IE, because their access rights were fine.
2013-04-24T16:39:04  <Dagmar> They hit up Firefox and the shit worked
2013-04-24T16:39:38  <Dagmar> I checked the servers logs and there's just FUCKTONS of errors where the & was being dropped off the first argument name in every single GET request.
2013-04-24T16:41:39  <Bahhumbug> I find it difficult to believe that even IE could fuck things up to that extent.  Sure there isn't something crappy in the way munging requests like an AV proxy or similar?
2013-04-24T16:45:07  <Dagmar> Nope.
2013-04-24T16:45:17  <Dagmar> Flip on "compatibility mode" and the problem goes right away.
2013-04-24T16:45:43  <Dagmar> I'm kind of surprised he was even able to _use_ cacti to define new checks
2013-04-24T17:09:25  <Dagmar> Sweet jesus
2013-04-24T17:09:43  <Dagmar> Some flunkie from NES was just in the building saying they were going to have to kill power to the entire building for three hours
2013-04-24T17:09:46  <Dagmar> AHHAHAHAHA
2013-04-24T17:09:50  <Dagmar> Oh hell no that's not going to happen
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2013-04-24T17:21:32  <Bahhumbug> Dagmar: That's seriously fucked up wrt IE and GET arguments.
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2013-04-24T17:58:46  <Dagmar> Yep.
2013-04-24T17:59:02  <Dagmar> Ah... No need for freak-outery.  NES are, as usual, idiots.
2013-04-24T17:59:11  <Dagmar> The transformer in question was a backup for the pump house.
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2013-04-24T20:01:04  <wilpig_> Dagmar: supposedly you can force IE into compatibility mode by adding in a line to the header statements for the pages.  if you want I can find that line and try it
2013-04-24T20:30:21  <Dagmar> THat would mean modifying Cacti
2013-04-24T20:31:05  <Dagmar> If you look at the ssl logs on there you'll see why I was WTFing that he was even able to _use_ cacti
2013-04-24T20:32:13  <Dagmar> I'm still a bit baffled as to how it was failing the way it did fail
2013-04-24T20:32:34  <Dagmar> Seriously, if you get a chance, fire up IE10 without compatibility mode on and look at the URL it's sending and do an export
2013-04-24T20:32:37  <Dagmar> It will fail.
2013-04-24T20:32:57  <Dagmar> It will fail because it will claim to be unable to write to /tmp/randomcrapname
2013-04-24T20:33:19  <Dagmar> It *won't* say "You didn't supply the confirm=1 argument"
2013-04-24T20:33:29  <Dagmar> I don't even know how the fuck it manages that
2013-04-24T20:33:50  <Dagmar> Its like it's doing it's own craptacular argument parsing for that bit
2013-04-24T20:38:28  <wilpig_> I think we all agree IE=garbage
2013-04-24T20:40:12  <wilpig_> http://www.explosm.net/comics/3149/
2013-04-24T20:40:13  <GateKeeper> Title: Cyanide & Happiness #3149 - Explosm.net (at www.explosm.net)
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2013-04-24T20:54:42  <wilpig_> oh shit almost forgot I have some email to tend to
2013-04-24T20:56:17  <wilpig_> http://thebloggess.com/2011/04/can-you-carry-an-alligator-on-a-plane-answer-i-still-dont-entirely-know/
2013-04-24T20:59:25  <Dagmar> That whole site is like four sigma from weird
2013-04-24T20:59:34  <wilpig_> no shit there
2013-04-24T21:00:16  <Dagmar> I could probably date that girl rather successfully
2013-04-24T21:00:29  <wilpig_> her husband and kid might say otherwise
2013-04-24T21:00:38  <Dagmar> Yeah well, that's their problem, not mine.
2013-04-24T21:01:55  <wilpig_> the xkcd on the time machine is brilliant.  took me a second though, then I laughed like an idiot
2013-04-24T21:02:55  <Dagmar> Still dont' get it
2013-04-24T21:03:11  <Dagmar> I'm not sure moving forward at 1:1 ratio is actually funny.
2013-04-24T21:03:19  <wilpig_> turned on the time machine, time started going backward.
2013-04-24T21:03:23  <Dagmar> ...but that might only be played out for me.
2013-04-24T21:03:52  <Dagmar> Yes well, how would you _know_ it went backwards.
2013-04-24T21:04:01  <Dagmar> There's only one other direction the switch could go in.
2013-04-24T21:04:03  <wilpig_> because the last action he did just undid itself
2013-04-24T21:04:31  <Dagmar> Yes, because the switch only goes up and back down
2013-04-24T21:13:56  <Dagmar> "a tool for obsessively vandalizing vegetables"
2013-04-24T21:31:21  <wilpig_> Dagmar: are you on call?
2013-04-24T21:33:36  <Shadow404> We've got the pentagons top cryptologist working 24/7, trying to figure out what the fuck you just said.
2013-04-24T21:50:22  <wilpig_> peacebyfire: ping
2013-04-24T21:51:42  <Shadow404> wilpig_: ping-a-ding-dong
2013-04-24T21:51:55  <wilpig_> hrmm?
2013-04-24T21:52:04  <Shadow404> i dunno, feeling silly
2013-04-24T21:53:39  * Shadow404 might be buying his first house soon
2013-04-24T22:14:25  <aestetix_> awwww
2013-04-24T22:14:41  <aestetix_> he's growing up *wipes tear*
2013-04-24T22:17:27  <aestetix_> Shadow404: are you still with scotchick?
2013-04-24T22:17:37  * wilpig_ slaps aestetix_ 
2013-04-24T22:19:16  <aestetix_> what
2013-04-24T22:20:08  <wilpig_> who just dumped 13,000+ email items ?
2013-04-24T22:20:14  * wilpig_ points at himself
2013-04-24T22:20:35  <Shadow404> damn, all that internet pron site spam
2013-04-24T22:20:58  <aestetix_> what
2013-04-24T22:21:06  <aestetix_> wilpig_: did you have a backup?
2013-04-24T22:21:09  <aestetix_> or do you not need them anymore
2013-04-24T22:21:10  <wilpig_> that was all work stuff
2013-04-24T22:21:18  <wilpig_> garbage that gets set to the noc
2013-04-24T22:21:28  <Shadow404> like alerts?
2013-04-24T22:21:51  <wilpig_> results of daily backups, statistics, alerts, tickets opened/closed, changes started/stopped, tapes to pull
2013-04-24T22:22:16  <wilpig_> I have a folder marked keep. and my inbox.  most everything else gets trashed regularly to make rooom
2013-04-24T22:22:46  <Shadow404> ah cool
2013-04-24T22:22:48  <wilpig_> chincy motherfuckers here only gave a gig for email and generate over 1000 non-sense items a week
2013-04-24T22:23:00  <Shadow404> man, i need to spend a night cleaning out my work inbox
2013-04-24T22:23:17  <Shadow404> to many useless chain mails, i hate outlook
2013-04-24T22:29:06  <wilpig_> I hate humans
2013-04-24T22:31:11  <Shadow404> So next time, when a potential employer says im over qualified for something, im just gonna be honest and reply "yeah, i dont tend to work very hard so that's ok"
2013-04-24T22:33:57  <wilpig_> lol
2013-04-24T22:34:43  <Shadow404> actually, if i can get them laughing and talk them off the topic, that may be a sly way to get past that topic
2013-04-24T22:45:52  <wilpig_> i'm beyond overqualified for my position. ugh
2013-04-24T22:59:09  <Shadow404> that does suck, same here
2013-04-24T22:59:15  <Shadow404> im a migration engineer currently
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2013-04-24T23:02:45  <Shadow404> and damn, anyone with telco exp can do this easily
2013-04-24T23:14:05  <wilpig_> Dagmar: ping
2013-04-24T23:15:34  <Dagmar> yo
2013-04-24T23:15:40  <wilpig_> blog server
2013-04-24T23:16:20  <wilpig_> I haven't made a ticket on that yet.  dealing with other shit atm
2013-04-24T23:24:51  <wilpig_> Dagmar: that's load balanced right?
2013-04-24T23:25:45  <Dagmar> Oh yes
2013-04-24T23:25:59  <Dagmar> We don't have any of those in the non-paired variety that I can think of
2013-04-24T23:26:12  <wilpig_> didn't think so just making sure
2013-04-24T23:26:40  <wilpig_> already got one call from hogan tonight because I closed a change out complete when it was incomplete
2013-04-24T23:27:11  <Dagmar> No problems
2013-04-24T23:27:34  <Dagmar> That box does virtually nothing but entertain the occasional search crawler and tell people a link to OAK
2013-04-24T23:28:41  <Dagmar> The GSAs are feeling it up right now which is probably what made it fall over.
2013-04-24T23:29:48  <Dagmar> Like an easy 1/5th of it's traffic is 404's from people's long-forgotten RSS readers and stale links