2013-04-23T01:19:38 *** NotLarry has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2013-04-23T01:29:07 *** ladymerlin has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-04-23T01:40:23 *** ladymerlin has joined #se2600 2013-04-23T01:46:36 http://comicsbeat.com/dragoncon-founder-ed-kramer-files-dozens-of-complaints-from-jail-while-looking-extremely-creepy/ 2013-04-23T01:46:37 Title: Dragon*Con Founder Ed Kramer files dozens of complaints from jail while looking extremely creepy (at comicsbeat.com) 2013-04-23T01:46:39 well.... 2013-04-23T01:46:46 there was that.... 2013-04-23T01:46:49 that happened 2013-04-23T02:24:36 Next person that brings me a computer and says it's running slow and they think they have a virus I will charge double if I see "BearShare" installed 2013-04-23T03:00:47 *** RangerZ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-04-23T06:14:03 wilpig_: i have a compaq that runs slow I don't understand why. It's a whole 400mhz with 96MB of RAM 2013-04-23T06:28:34 *** LastChild has quit IRC (Quit: and the monkey flips the switch) 2013-04-23T07:26:04 *** sync350 has joined #se2600 2013-04-23T07:26:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o sync350 2013-04-23T07:40:23 *** Dolemite has joined #se2600 2013-04-23T07:40:23 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Dolemite 2013-04-23T07:40:47 mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 2013-04-23T08:16:40 *** ZeroMinuS has joined #se2600 2013-04-23T08:31:16 *** CNwaV has joined #se2600 2013-04-23T09:16:13 Wow. Someone's such a cool guy. 2013-04-23T09:37:23 =D thank you 2013-04-23T09:39:20 btw for whoever it was that went to GSU. I'm enjoying my 20th lecture in a software engineering class by Harris which has completely derailed into a circle-jerk over the math behind software metrics 2013-04-23T09:45:42 Shadow404: pong 2013-04-23T09:54:30 * aestetix_ hugs Dolemite 2013-04-23T09:55:05 Corydon76-work: Have you started looking at which hike you want to do for GeekNIC? 2013-04-23T09:55:50 I have not 2013-04-23T10:01:52 Do you remember the trail we hiked last year? 2013-04-23T10:03:37 Found it, Grotto Falls 2013-04-23T10:11:26 frsilent: Not you. Some little buttfucker named Daniel Huckaby (HandlerExploit) is fairly pissed off at me over some shit in Ingress and attempted to spoof a request from me to have my account removed from the game. 2013-04-23T10:11:37 Whatcha wan' bet he wasn't smart enough to use TOR? 2013-04-23T10:12:42 Doing stuff like this is _phenomenally_ stupid when you're playing a game that frequently involves running around public places at night.... oh and you're carrying a device that tells other people where you are when you play 2013-04-23T10:13:17 lol 2013-04-23T10:13:26 yeah that sounds pretty stupid 2013-04-23T10:14:06 =\ we got a feature request yesterday to add to our cms help text that a pdf uploader file should be a pdf 2013-04-23T10:18:58 Dagmar: was there no IP attached to that? 2013-04-23T10:19:59 Dagmar: how do you know he attempted to spoof a request from you? 2013-04-23T10:24:43 Dolemite: Hen Wallow Falls 2013-04-23T10:25:03 How tough of a hike is that one? I'll have to look it up. 2013-04-23T10:25:15 Moderate, same as Grotto (last year) 2013-04-23T10:25:36 But it's a 90 foot falls, instead of 25 foot. 2013-04-23T10:26:21 That's a pretty good drive from Gatlinburg to get to 2013-04-23T10:26:26 plan on plenty of travel time 2013-04-23T10:26:38 Yeah, it's not bad, really 2013-04-23T10:27:46 I may need to adjust my Ingress Field Day round 2 time, because I don't think you'd be back in time for it. Some of the Ingress players have expressed interest in the hike. 2013-04-23T10:28:08 Other choice was Abrams Falls, and that's even further away 2013-04-23T10:29:21 Grotto Falls was only 585' of elevation change. Now you're nearly doubling it. Trying to kill some out of shape geeks, I see. 2013-04-23T10:30:07 Where are you seeing elevation change? 2013-04-23T10:30:19 Corydon76-work: cause he got an email from google requesting confirmation to delete his ingress account 2013-04-23T10:30:27 But yeah, if you tried Abrams Falls you'd be gone all day, with most of it being stuck in the Cades Cove traffic 2013-04-23T10:30:44 http://www.hikinginthesmokys.com/location.htm 2013-04-23T10:30:44 Title: Gatlinburg hiking trails | Great Smoky Mountains National Park (at www.hikinginthesmokys.com) 2013-04-23T10:30:51 Good on Google for sending confirmations. I'm sure they realized someone would try that. 2013-04-23T10:31:44 which is why I questioned there being no IP in the email that the request was sent from 2013-04-23T10:33:59 Yeah, but they probably don't want to escalate situations 2013-04-23T10:34:35 Hen Wallow Falls is also nearly double the difficulty rating as Grotto Falls 2013-04-23T10:35:36 You could do the Brushy Mountain Trail and see if you can find the ghost of John Coffee 2013-04-23T10:36:11 Yeah, with triple the difficulty rating as last year 2013-04-23T10:37:13 hehehehe 2013-04-23T10:37:26 I plan on doing a 0.0 difficulty lazy river 2013-04-23T10:38:17 I'm telling you, Laurel Falls shouldn't be crossed off of your list 2013-04-23T10:38:40 parking was the issue there last year 2013-04-23T10:38:41 Laurel Falls is impossible to get a good parking space unless you get up earlier than geeks are wont to do 2013-04-23T10:39:41 I mean, unless you start the trail at 11:30 am, when most people are trying to get out to go to lunch 2013-04-23T10:40:06 Parking is always full there, but it's not impossible 2013-04-23T10:40:26 Well, I've parked along the road before, yes 2013-04-23T10:40:59 You can always drive down to Bald River Falls in Tellico Plains. heh. 2013-04-23T10:41:14 Anybody else on who was thinking of doing the hike? 2013-04-23T10:41:42 I'll go whereever 2013-04-23T10:41:58 I looked at all of that, and other than doing a repeat of Grotto Falls, I don't think there's a better option than Hen Wallow, all things considered 2013-04-23T10:41:58 which reminds me. when is peaches workign this week? I gotta get shoes 2013-04-23T10:42:23 He's working today, 2 until close 2013-04-23T10:42:37 wilpig_: It would be helpful for you to respond to the event invitation in the affirmative. After all, we know that people tend to wait until they see others going to something before they decide to go themselves. 2013-04-23T10:43:02 did I not? 2013-04-23T10:43:03 Speaking of which, Tristan and EJ are unlikely to actually show up. 2013-04-23T10:43:14 Also, I'm talking to one of the researchers here that dissects nasty computer viruses and examines them... possibly to do a PN talk 2013-04-23T10:43:25 Cool 2013-04-23T10:43:50 How do we feel about public dissection of chubby little twitter monkeys? 2013-04-23T10:44:02 wilpig_: Not the invite on G+ for the Ingress Field Day 2013-04-23T10:44:29 Dagmar: I support vivisection of anything related to twitter 2013-04-23T10:44:55 'cuz I have the feeling that the trailer is strong enough in Daniel Heckaby that he'll cross a line at some point between here and then and it'll be time for some public humiliaiton 2013-04-23T10:45:07 er Huckaby 2013-04-23T10:45:17 Or rather, cross _another_ line 2013-04-23T10:45:29 BTW, Dole, one of your newest employees, Robert French, might enjoy going, if you speak to him about it 2013-04-23T10:45:38 He used to work with me 2013-04-23T10:46:18 Ah, he's just down the hall from me 2013-04-23T10:46:36 I sent him an invite on FB, but he hasn't responded 2013-04-23T10:46:49 You didn't try to fondle him, did you? If I mention your name, he's not going to run, is he? 2013-04-23T10:47:12 Hah, no. 2013-04-23T10:47:29 I met him when he was something like 9... 2013-04-23T10:49:48 Just... don't mention his mother... 2013-04-23T10:50:19 vagina 2013-04-23T10:51:34 I am tempted to submit a dongle talk to phreaknic 2013-04-23T10:51:41 Corydon76-work: k. when I get up this afternoon I'll head down there so he can claim another sale 2013-04-23T10:53:58 *** sync350_ has joined #se2600 2013-04-23T10:53:58 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o sync350_ 2013-04-23T10:56:06 *** sync350 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-04-23T10:56:06 *** sync350_ is now known as sync350 2013-04-23T11:23:02 *** x86Daddy has joined #se2600 2013-04-23T11:30:07 *** sync350 has quit IRC (Quit: wtfsleepomg) 2013-04-23T11:35:50 *** RangerZ has joined #se2600 2013-04-23T11:45:46 *** x86Daddy has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-04-23T12:00:38 *** x86Daddy has joined #se2600 2013-04-23T12:08:26 *** x86Daddy1 has joined #se2600 2013-04-23T12:08:26 *** x86Daddy has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-04-23T12:12:25 *** x86Daddy has joined #se2600 2013-04-23T12:12:43 *** x86Daddy1 has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2013-04-23T12:31:14 *** x86Daddy has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-04-23T12:31:47 *** Synx|hm has joined #se2600 2013-04-23T12:32:11 SOAB bitfloor is no more, and i just xfered $300 to a CapitalOne 360 P2P account to move to Bitfloor 2013-04-23T12:41:26 *** x86Daddy has joined #se2600 2013-04-23T12:47:23 *** x86Daddy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2013-04-23T12:54:06 Bitcoin seems to pretty much be collapsing in on itself 2013-04-23T12:56:15 ya its on the rise again today but basically 2013-04-23T12:56:29 i just wanted to plunk a few hundred into litecoin to see what happens 2013-04-23T13:26:36 *** Dolemite has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2013-04-23T13:55:22 *** x86Daddy has joined #se2600 2013-04-23T13:59:56 You don't read Hacker News, do you. 2013-04-23T14:00:11 Kiddies are once again, abusing those servers to cause a crash so they can make money. 2013-04-23T14:00:17 Un momento 2013-04-23T14:00:38 This is literally the main thing wrong with BitCoin. The speculators are too fucking easy to scare. 2013-04-23T14:02:20 Well, everyone is pretty sure that the whole thing is a pyramid scheme; it's just a question of when the whole thing collapses on itself, which it eventually will. 2013-04-23T14:02:34 No different than greenbacks. 2013-04-23T14:03:00 Greenbacks are backed by the full faith an credit of a very large nation 2013-04-23T14:03:36 They may be overvalued, but they do have intrinsic worth, unlike bitcoin 2013-04-23T14:04:06 Well, hell... unsurprisingly the post was deleted from news.ycombinator.com, but someone leaked the plans and timeline for Yet Another Attack on the bitcoin markets to pastebin 2013-04-23T14:04:07 http://www.examiner.com/article/ddos-attack-to-devalue-digital-currency 2013-04-23T14:04:08 Title: DDoS attack to devalue digital currency - Ann Arbor Gadgets | Examiner.com (at www.examiner.com) 2013-04-23T14:04:11 They have osme of the details. 2013-04-23T14:04:48 This shit's been going on awhile. Kiddies DDoS several servers, "investors" freak out thinking the whole thing is going under and start dumping their coins. 2013-04-23T14:04:51 Price plummets. 2013-04-23T14:05:03 Kiddies then buy coins cheap, wait for price to go back up. 2013-04-23T14:06:58 Corydon76-work: Dude, our money is a fiat currency and has been for some time. It's only a unit of bureaucratic work at this point. 2013-04-23T14:08:01 Dagmar: yes, but unlike bitcoin, we have major institutions who are willing to back up enough of the currency that such manipulations of the money supply are virtually impossible 2013-04-23T14:08:22 *** x86Daddy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2013-04-23T14:08:44 Well, unless you're Bank of America, Bear Stearns, umm.. let's see... 2013-04-23T14:09:14 It's all a circle jerk, the only difference is the scale of the ponzi scheme. 2013-04-23T14:09:33 Keynes, the chief theorist behind modern economics, was also known for severely breaking entire countries' money supplies, back in his day 2013-04-23T14:10:01 The Federal Reserve was the institution to which I was referring 2013-04-23T14:10:10 The one sort of interesting thing it's doing is fleshing out the methods for exchanging it with other currencies. 2013-04-23T14:10:26 ...it's also making a much more direct "exploit-to-payday" circuit for hacking. 2013-04-23T14:10:53 I mean hell, you can break into a flavor-of-the-month bitcoin exchange and just steal fucking money outright, movies-style, now 2013-04-23T14:11:01 Pump-and-dump schemes are far more common than you might think 2013-04-23T14:12:24 and I don't think they're technically illegal, either, unless you possess insider knowledge about the company backing the unit 2013-04-23T14:41:10 *** x86Daddy has joined #se2600 2013-04-23T15:03:50 Actually they are illegal, but nevermind that... a DDoS to cause a market fluctuation is already illegal 2013-04-23T15:04:45 No need to wander into questions about who knew what and when 2013-04-23T15:05:36 *** RangerZ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-04-23T15:07:19 It's kinda looking like this particular attempt to manipulate the price of bitcoins was a miserable failure 2013-04-23T15:28:34 it's illegal to buy a ton of an item, then sell it off really fast? 2013-04-23T15:32:10 brimstone, it can be surprisingly 2013-04-23T15:32:15 but in this case nope 2013-04-23T15:36:09 brimstone: generally not, unless what you're doing amounts to trading on insider information 2013-04-23T15:36:40 but then it's insider trading, not the action of pump-and-dump that gets you 2013-04-23T15:36:50 This is true 2013-04-23T15:36:55 * brimstone splits the hairs 2013-04-23T15:37:18 But insider trading is basically using inequality of information to manipulate a market 2013-04-23T15:37:29 really i'm just out to make sure everyone knows Dagmar's wrong about something 2013-04-23T15:38:30 In theory, anyway, all investors should have the same opportunities to learn information about an investment, even if some fail to take advantage of that information 2013-04-23T15:39:44 I think the other way you might be able to get at them is with the fraud statute, if they knowingly make false representations in order to influence a financial transaction 2013-04-23T15:40:21 "knowingly" is what makes it a difficult case to prove in court 2013-04-23T15:51:34 *** Synx|hm has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) 2013-04-23T15:57:41 You guys really are idiots. 2013-04-23T15:57:45 DDoS == illegal. 2013-04-23T15:58:02 You don't have to worry about whatever the fuck securities regulations might or might not be involved. 2013-04-23T16:24:12 *** polerin has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host) 2013-04-23T16:24:28 Dagmar: The issue is never in what laws are broken, but in what prosecutors can prove 2013-04-23T16:24:45 *** polerin has joined #se2600 2013-04-23T16:24:58 http://www.szsu.com/2013/04/23/ap-twitter-account-hacked-posts-false-tweet-about-white-house/ 2013-04-23T16:24:59 Title: AP Twitter Account Hacked, Posts False Tweet About White House � Social Zoo: Social Updates | Social Zoo: Social Updates (at www.szsu.com) 2013-04-23T16:27:06 THIS IS WHY WE NEED CISPA! 2013-04-23T16:29:55 Because laws stop criminals? 2013-04-23T16:30:45 We should make a law against murder, then, and suddenly, no more murders. 2013-04-23T16:30:57 twitter would be forced to give the FBI the details on who did it 2013-04-23T16:31:08 then, bam, jail time suckas 2013-04-23T16:31:23 You don't think Twitter's already doing that? 2013-04-23T16:31:32 doesn't matter, laws 2013-04-23T16:37:38 brimstone has a strong argument 2013-04-23T16:46:30 *** RangerZ has joined #se2600 2013-04-23T16:52:01 *** ZombieChicken has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-04-23T17:00:35 *** CNwaV has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2013-04-23T17:05:22 *** ZeroMinuS has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-04-23T17:31:18 *** CNwaV has joined #se2600 2013-04-23T17:47:52 *** ZombieChicken has joined #se2600 2013-04-23T17:47:52 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ZombieChicken 2013-04-23T18:29:41 *** [1]CNwaV <[1]CNwaV!~CNwaV@129.sub-70-197-160.myvzw.com> has joined #se2600 2013-04-23T18:30:47 *** CNwaV has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2013-04-23T18:30:47 *** [1]CNwaV is now known as CNwaV 2013-04-23T18:39:02 *** x86Daddy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2013-04-23T19:20:13 *** ZeroMinuS has joined #se2600 2013-04-23T19:22:35 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ladymerlin 2013-04-23T19:41:08 https://www-robotics.jpl.nasa.gov/projects/projectImage.cfm?Project=1&Image=64 2013-04-23T20:29:39 *** ZeroMinuS has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-04-23T20:35:21 *** CNwaV has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2013-04-23T20:38:59 http://www.newschannel5.com/story/22058405/nashville-still-experiencing-ammunition-shortages 2013-04-23T20:39:00 Title: Nashville Still Experiencing Ammunition Shortages - NewsChannel5.com | Nashville News, Weather & Sports (at www.newschannel5.com) 2013-04-23T20:39:02 Note one of the pictures... 2013-04-23T20:39:06 eryc: billions spent to draw a cock on mars 2013-04-23T20:39:07 "LEAD WARNING" 2013-04-23T20:39:12 You don't say? 2013-04-23T20:39:33 Who'd have guessed that bullets might be a lead hazard 2013-04-23T20:49:04 i was reading the ammo shortage is because dhs bought it all up, and is still receiving it as part of a contract deal 2013-04-23T20:49:33 so the mfgrs are all tied up making their ammo instead of yours 2013-04-23T20:57:27 Well, of course. You never know when you might need to shoot every man, woman, and child in the US. 2013-04-23T20:59:38 the stat they used was war for the next 27 years 2013-04-23T21:00:45 i think it was enough to put a bullet in about 30% of the earth's population 2013-04-23T21:38:59 http://wikileaks.org/Transcript-Meeting-Assange-Schmidt 2013-04-23T21:39:00 Title: Transcript of secret meeting between Julian Assange and Google CEO Eric Schmidt (at wikileaks.org) 2013-04-23T21:39:50 hoho http://d28mt5n9lkji5m.cloudfront.net/i/VvJLl7QjFn.jpg 2013-04-23T21:40:54 This does not appear to be very secret. 2013-04-23T21:41:06 Before the first screen edge even... ".June 23rd. This is a recording between Julian Assange, Eric Schmidt and...?" 2013-04-23T21:41:42 Ah okay, from 2011. So it was secret for awhile 2013-04-23T22:00:09 eryc: Those orders aren't helping, but they don't nearly account for all the ammo that should be on the shelves. 2013-04-23T22:00:31 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o oddball 2013-04-23T22:02:14 Most of the major ammo manufacturers have gone on record with stating that they are now running their plants 24/7 and have orders that will keep them this way into next year. 2013-04-23T22:05:38 thats a lot of words;tldr 2013-04-23T22:06:06 I've seen esitmates that there have been 65 million new guns sold since mid-December, the gun ranges have been packed, and there have been record numbers of people taking carry classes accross the country. 2013-04-23T22:06:22 i meant dagmar's link 2013-04-23T22:06:42 Ok, I was about to ask if 2 sentences were too much for you to handle. :p 2013-04-23T22:06:44 oh i guess you didn't just join nvm 2013-04-23T22:06:49 heh 2013-04-23T22:07:23 yea everyones giddy for guns 2013-04-23T22:08:11 i hear mcdonalds is planning to put ammo clips in happy meals 2013-04-23T22:08:24 Anyways, lots of new guns to feed, owned by lots of new gun owners who are shooting them, plus the usual folks, plus the panic buys because "OMG Obama is going to take ALL the guns *and* the ammo, plus people now panic buying because the shit's become scarce. 2013-04-23T22:09:08 too bad most of those guns will just get old and rust 2013-04-23T22:09:14 With the last bit, the same thing happened a couple years ago with the gas scare. 2013-04-23T22:11:01 I just wish that the panic buy on ammo would go away... I'm starting to run low on a couple calibers. 2013-04-23T22:12:48 And .22 ammo that use to cost 3cents a round now going for north of 30 cents (when you can find it) sucks. Not to mention .223 going for damn near $1/round and .308 going for $1.50+ 2013-04-23T22:15:08 *** LastChild has joined #se2600 2013-04-23T22:15:08 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o LastChild 2013-04-23T22:52:33 *** sasquatc4 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2013-04-23T22:57:32 *** sasquatc4 has joined #se2600 2013-04-23T22:57:32 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o sasquatc4