2013-04-11T00:12:11 *** spaceB0x has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) 2013-04-11T00:34:01 Damnit not even wikipedia is safe anymore 2013-04-11T00:34:16 I just wanted to look up the difference between second and third degree burns and they have pictures 2013-04-11T00:34:21 euuuuw 2013-04-11T00:34:41 Dagmar: just ran rogue off campus.... three more fuckin' smurfs showed up 2013-04-11T00:34:51 LastChild is lvl6 now though 2013-04-11T00:34:55 Oh I'm sure they're all really pissed about the stalking but fuck them 2013-04-11T00:35:02 oh and mooric knwos skydick 2013-04-11T00:35:30 I told him next time he sees skydick to kindly kick him in the nuts and tell him that he met wilpig 2013-04-11T00:35:31 Handler and his idiot wife are just digging themselves in deeper on the G+ community 2013-04-11T00:35:38 lol 2013-04-11T00:36:13 Kayla tried to tell me to shut up because I wasn't there 2013-04-11T00:36:24 the one thing i took out of all the pissing was... Who the f$%$ brings a baby to BM that late at night? 2013-04-11T00:36:35 Yeah, we seriously question the wisdom of that 2013-04-11T00:36:50 no doubt 2013-04-11T00:36:50 If it had been Centennial Park, maybe, but BiCen is a little shifty at that time of night 2013-04-11T00:37:07 The area is partially gentrified but still shifty 2013-04-11T00:37:16 well lets be honest, everywhere at night has it's shiftyness 2013-04-11T00:37:28 CP is just freaking tame central 2013-04-11T00:37:35 yeah but anything on rosa parks is shiftier than anywhere else 2013-04-11T00:38:18 The park ranger was frankly astonished because he'd been seeing us and a whole bunch of other people out playing the game before and had never heard of anything like this 2013-04-11T00:38:33 It was all I could do to not say "It might be that they were just crazy" 2013-04-11T00:38:58 You can't very well be playing a game like that and say "Don't you follow me or I'll call the cops" 2013-04-11T00:39:22 Oh and he actually went so far as to make a pathetic little threat on the G+ Community 2013-04-11T00:40:56 "This is how I perceived events and I chose to call the authorities before anything else got out of hand. I may not be violent but the next time with the next person, you might not be so lucky." 2013-04-11T00:41:12 I'll freaking *drop* that bowl-cut little punk if he takes a poke at me over something trivial like that 2013-04-11T00:41:54 yeah i saw his picture. I would be more scared of Thai food 2013-04-11T00:52:41 lmao 2013-04-11T00:52:52 whoops wrong prog 2013-04-11T00:52:53 Bumpysig ain't exactly an intimidating figure either. 2013-04-11T00:53:10 to see what he was laughing about "30 resonators destroyed by callr on mayborn 2013-04-11T00:53:15 Carsmart is kinda short, and Merl just doesn't even look like a mean guy 2013-04-11T00:53:31 that was me constantly redeploying while he was just a blasting away repeatedly 2013-04-11T00:53:37 You guys pulled the deploy-deploy-deploy thingon hi,? 2013-04-11T00:53:38 LOL 2013-04-11T00:53:43 Free points@ 2013-04-11T00:53:48 I should screenshot all these emails 2013-04-11T00:53:56 and he was blasting with 8's too 2013-04-11T00:54:00 that's a fuckload of points for dinky resos 2013-04-11T00:54:05 cause I was puting 7 and 8s in the the building 2013-04-11T00:54:13 yeah that and walking around with piggy taking the rest of the quad put me into lvl 6 2013-04-11T00:54:23 Oh wow. Heh that's got to put a dent in his supplies 2013-04-11T00:54:38 I'm still kind of miffed that Troy was off doing stuff in greater downtown when all the crap happened. Heh 2013-04-11T00:55:11 22 emails, 30 resonators in total 2013-04-11T00:55:44 Sweet 2013-04-11T00:56:25 Assuming I am not fuckin' BANNED in a few days and have to go scare someone absolutely shitless we should be able to flash-farm L7 stuff soon 2013-04-11T00:56:34 k 2013-04-11T00:56:50 since LastChild is 6 he and I can make mayborn into a 6 nightly for farming 2013-04-11T00:57:01 Yay 2013-04-11T00:57:26 I feel pretty good about the work we did this evening 2013-04-11T00:57:49 Hell I _gave_ carsmart a dozen L6's so he'd be able to deploy them and I'm *still* quite up on L6 resos for the night 2013-04-11T00:57:53 if you and I can get troy to the city cemetery at some point this weekend I ahve enough keys to probably get him a level 2013-04-11T00:58:27 Kayla (Handler's wife) was apparently just trying to get me to join some Google+ chat 2013-04-11T00:58:28 Fuck that 2013-04-11T00:58:34 I don't want to talk to those idiots 2013-04-11T00:58:46 what level is troy now? 2013-04-11T00:59:02 lol 2013-04-11T00:59:19 can you respond with a "I refuse to give you any evidence to incriminate anyone " 2013-04-11T01:03:51 Hes' probably five now 2013-04-11T01:04:19 I suspect he went downtown instead of farming Bicen because he needs points and there weren't any targets left at BiCen for him, but downtown is a bloody mess lastely 2013-04-11T01:04:23 er lately 2013-04-11T01:12:01 He would make a pretty pile of points just repopulating unmaintained portals, of which there are dozens 2013-04-11T01:12:54 yeah but ~1500 ap per field and I can probably make a dozen fields there 2013-04-11T01:13:40 Yeha if he's going to make a habit of going down there I'm going to unload a bunch of keys on him 2013-04-11T01:13:54 i'll make a list of the keys I have later for there and match them up to the map and see what's possible. if we're gonna power level him might as well do it right 2013-04-11T01:14:11 Someone for SOME weird reason called me out about "my" strategy of apparently telling people not to link. 2013-04-11T01:14:38 I'm demanding they explain just WTF they think my strategy is, because I suspect more than one person is distorting and/or shortening it into something stupid. 2013-04-11T01:14:58 I've been pretty damn clear the whole time about when people should _not_ make links 2013-04-11T01:15:22 ...and you'd think considering the massive amount of extra points involved for just hanging onto keys until you can make a field, that they'd see the wisdom in that 2013-04-11T01:15:46 I make links when I can make fields. or if I want to fuck with a smurf 2013-04-11T01:16:15 Yeah someoen's been selling a bill of goods as "dagmar's strategy" that is clearly *not* mine, and I'm going to find out who and call them to the mat for it 2013-04-11T01:16:16 granted sometimes people don't get to see my fields since there are so many fucking smurfs that destory my fields within minutes of them being establish 2013-04-11T01:16:50 Yeah that's the nature of the game right now 2013-04-11T01:16:58 Niantic doesn't want fields to survive for very long 2013-04-11T01:17:18 They want the playfield in flux more or less constantly so there's a lot of room for actions 2013-04-11T01:17:39 I think they've taken that a bit too far, personally 2013-04-11T01:17:49 Nerfing shields like they've done is crazy 2013-04-11T01:18:03 I still can't see the point in something that might as well just be a glass canopy 2013-04-11T01:18:47 very long is one thing. I'm saying i've barely made fields before they've been taken out. two weeks ago I had it setup to make several fields on my 20 minute drive home. they were gone before I even GOT home 2013-04-11T01:19:36 fields should make portals under them decay slower, or push the xm collection to the edges of the field or something interesting 2013-04-11T01:19:51 Damn straight 2013-04-11T01:20:04 Fields should _do_ something other than just make portals into attractive targets 2013-04-11T01:20:05 or fuck. if a portal is covered by a same faction field, STOP THE FUCKIN' decay outright 2013-04-11T01:20:22 Yeah, or at the very least half it, based on what the damn things are supposed to be 2013-04-11T01:20:28 you'd see people actively trying to make city wide fields at that point 2013-04-11T01:20:32 Yep 2013-04-11T01:20:42 ...or at least making an effort to make fields. 2013-04-11T01:20:51 At L8 I can't even see a point in making them at all 2013-04-11T01:21:03 Talking about Ingress? 2013-04-11T01:21:20 The only reason I'd bother if if I knew the other side was going to be trying to make points in that area by making fields, and blocking it like that would be kind of a dick move 2013-04-11T01:21:31 Effective, but still dickish 2013-04-11T01:21:40 sync350: Yep 2013-04-11T01:21:58 A couple of jackasses decided to creativerly overreact and call the cops on some of us this evening 2013-04-11T01:22:19 Nice, I've got a buddy that's hooked on it, I submitted to get an invite, but I hear it takes a good bit of time to get one 2013-04-11T01:22:24 The cops were not very happy about it once we explained things 2013-04-11T01:22:31 called the cops on you for playing? 2013-04-11T01:22:36 sync350: YOU'VE COME TO THE RIGHT PLACE 2013-04-11T01:22:46 sync350: Yep 2013-04-11T01:22:50 That sucks 2013-04-11T01:23:09 Considering the guy watches the comms pretty closely, I'm pretty sure he saw we werr farming and decide to come out and fuck things up for us 2013-04-11T01:23:29 ...then oops his scanner ran out of XM because he literally went right into the middle of us, and we stopped him cold. 2013-04-11T01:23:42 No XM in his phone means he coulnd't do anything, and we were standing there soaking it all up 2013-04-11T01:24:09 He said he was leaving (like we'd believe that) and they started to leave, and two people followed them to see they didn't try anything else 2013-04-11T01:24:27 This made Handler angry and he demanded they stop following him or he'd call the police 2013-04-11T01:24:47 They kept following him because it's not like there was any crime being engaged in. Hell we're all playing the game and have been for awhile 2013-04-11T01:25:12 Literally less than five minutes transpired before we saw they were there and trying to take over portals and them calling the police 2013-04-11T01:25:18 A complete load of shit 2013-04-11T01:25:45 sync350: what's your gmail address? Everyone over L6 has two invites they can hand out at will 2013-04-11T01:25:57 wareagle352@gmail.com 2013-04-11T01:26:16 Done 2013-04-11T01:26:27 Sweet 2013-04-11T01:26:32 Mainly getting an invite at this point is simply a matter of finding a player L6 or higher and saying something to them 2013-04-11T01:26:59 It would be cool if you were Enlightened and not Resistance, but I'm not going to be a stickler about it 2013-04-11T01:27:59 You're not exactly local competition so it's not a problem either way 2013-04-11T01:28:11 Well I told my buddy that when I joined I'd be on Resistance 2013-04-11T01:28:36 Just understand that if you come to Nashville we'll crush your little Luddite heads. ;) 2013-04-11T01:28:58 It's seriously not a big deal 2013-04-11T01:29:09 haha 2013-04-11T01:29:11 does callr know skydick too? 2013-04-11T01:29:18 Possibly 2013-04-11T01:29:31 I've invited four people so far, I think 2013-04-11T01:29:41 How fast do the invites generally refresh? 2013-04-11T01:30:00 I had two, now I have one, still don't really have a person to match it with 2013-04-11T01:30:11 benthemeek, my buddy(vorshi), lo(in south korea), mirage(flyingtoaster) 2013-04-11T01:30:59 I'll just keep an eye on it and if it turns out they refresh in like 24 hours or something I will *seriously* ratched up recruiting efforst 2013-04-11T01:31:15 I will flyer the student billboards all over campus with Enlightenment-specific recruiting ads 2013-04-11T01:31:46 Not sure on that. I thought we got one for being lvl6, another for 8, then they turned around and handed em out to everyone that is 5 2013-04-11T01:31:46 ...which would be *utter hilarity* for banderling and callr and RogueB3 to try to keep that territory under control from 2013-04-11T01:32:01 Dozens of point-hungry noobs on campus lol 2013-04-11T01:32:05 I might have one invite left now 2013-04-11T01:32:18 nope. No invites left 2013-04-11T01:32:25 L5 people have invites now? 2013-04-11T01:32:26 Cool 2013-04-11T01:32:44 I think no one not 6 has probably even looked lately 2013-04-11T01:33:07 Any idea how much Kinko's charges for color copies? 2013-04-11T01:33:37 more than you want to pay 2013-04-11T01:33:47 Maybe so, maybe not. I'm looking now 2013-04-11T01:33:50 I'd have to look and see what I paid to do the phreaknic programs this year 2013-04-11T01:34:08 thinking it was 300 copies and I paid around $150 that seems low though 2013-04-11T01:34:14 WHOA 2013-04-11T01:34:21 I seriously misread Promo Magnets 2013-04-11T01:34:28 maybe it was 450 copies 2013-04-11T01:34:38 but 150 of those were cut. they were all double sided 2013-04-11T01:34:42 and they folded them too. 2013-04-11T01:34:43 Yeah I'm not thinking anything nearly so large 2013-04-11T01:35:02 Just like 20-25. Enough to hit all the corkboards around VUMC 2013-04-11T01:35:17 as an employee you're not allowed. just fyi 2013-04-11T01:35:26 Really? 2013-04-11T01:35:34 looked into that for PN. students can all they want. as an employee you can't 2013-04-11T01:35:39 have to get it approved by HR 2013-04-11T01:35:50 That might actually be doable 2013-04-11T01:36:02 It's not like I'm promoting for some event I'm throwing 2013-04-11T01:36:27 Hell, Niantic actually has been looking for students to throw events for them 2013-04-11T01:37:36 I'm just looking to generally cause trouble for other people. :) 2013-04-11T01:37:47 I love causing trouble! 2013-04-11T01:38:10 If Vandy had a *ton* of players on both sides, there wouldn't be any of this nonsense with callr going all over the campus 2013-04-11T01:38:21 Shit would fly fast and furious 2013-04-11T01:38:30 we have a new one on campus here I am seeing too 2013-04-11T01:38:37 lastchild just pointed it out 2013-04-11T01:38:44 I think that's Jahans's sons gf 2013-04-11T01:38:50 He told me about her a couple days ago 2013-04-11T01:38:57 manthabat? 2013-04-11T01:39:01 Yep 2013-04-11T01:39:39 dangit that reminds me i still need to go to kinos for those vinyl enlightened stickers 2013-04-11T01:39:45 i keep forgetting 2013-04-11T01:39:57 I just print the things 2013-04-11T01:40:09 LastChild: do you have keys for shadow and substance and fine arts? 2013-04-11T01:40:12 I got UV spray and a good color inkjet and even the fancy vinyl paper 2013-04-11T01:40:19 1 each 2013-04-11T01:40:36 we can claim marthan back and get you probably four fields 2013-04-11T01:41:00 dude i got it planned out 2013-04-11T01:41:20 *** Synx|hm has joined #se2600 2013-04-11T01:41:45 i'd say i could go take out wyatt but i'm not wasting bursters to try and take down that lvl8 reso 2013-04-11T01:42:05 You'd be suprised how fast they go away when you stand right on the overleveled one 2013-04-11T01:42:26 checking now to see if it's in the building like I think it it 2013-04-11T01:42:26 I've been standing on the high level reso instead of the portal lately and using lower level bursters 2013-04-11T01:42:27 is 2013-04-11T01:42:45 yeah i just checked, the path i'm taking gives me 4 fields 2013-04-11T01:43:09 if yer looking at an L6 portal that involves an L8 reso, and you stand on that L8 reso it goes out in about the same amount of hits as it would if they were all 6. 2013-04-11T01:43:13 hrmm. looks like it's in the field. 2013-04-11T01:43:17 5 if i have time to get over to fine arts 2013-04-11T01:43:49 I've been picking off a lot of RogueB3's L7's and didn't want to burn up all my L7-L8 weaponry doing it 2013-04-11T01:44:11 LastChild: you taking a break at 1? 2013-04-11T01:44:12 If I wanna drop an L8 portal solo, that's going to take L8 bursters for sure unless I want to be dropping shitloads of bursters 2013-04-11T01:44:19 aye 2013-04-11T01:44:34 k. i'll go then and see if I can take out that 8 easily on wyatt 2013-04-11T01:45:15 alright i'll come to your side when i go 2013-04-11T01:45:41 ...but seriously it does seem you can ignore that there's that one annoying L7 there if you can stand right on the damn thing and drop several L5's or a few L6's 2013-04-11T01:46:06 I use threes. :D mainly cause i have a ton of them 2013-04-11T01:46:07 *** Mirage has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2013-04-11T01:46:19 hehe 2013-04-11T01:46:44 for come and play and mayborn. I've been putting a 7 and an 8 each inside the buildings. if he wants that portal that bad he's gonna work for it 2013-04-11T01:47:20 Good call 2013-04-11T01:48:08 Man Troy is going to be hard to deal with tomorrow hehe 2013-04-11T01:48:15 'cuz of the cops and all 2013-04-11T01:48:16 lol 2013-04-11T01:48:33 WE R NEFARIOUS INDUVIUSHUL 2013-04-11T01:49:10 Up until tonight I've barely had nothing but pleasant conversations and waving at them 2013-04-11T01:50:45 lol @Domonic James 2013-04-11T01:50:48 "Fyi a block in either direction is the GHETTO son. People shoot at white folks for fun in that part of town. I could go on an on but ill stop there. " 2013-04-11T01:51:02 http://i.imgur.com/u93KqAR.png 2013-04-11T01:51:09 can you pick out the 7s and 8s? 2013-04-11T01:51:40 I put a single 7 on fine arts as well 2013-04-11T01:51:46 I'm sure he expects nothing less than that kind of actual strategy from us 2013-04-11T01:51:54 you can just barely see that on the left side 2013-04-11T01:52:03 heh i forgot i was still floating between comeplay and remnants theres one field done lol 2013-04-11T01:52:29 upgrade mayborn you ass. I need to farm a lvl6 to recoup some shit 2013-04-11T01:53:01 neither pat nor rafiq like peeps. 2013-04-11T01:53:07 i can't lock on to gps untill i go outside that's why i'm floating 2013-04-11T01:53:14 new stereotype! blackpeople don't like peeps 2013-04-11T01:53:46 I dunno. There *could* be a biochemical basis to that 2013-04-11T01:54:29 lAst night at Bongo a girl I know got dinner and just *poured* sriacha on her food 2013-04-11T01:54:36 Her response? "What? I'm indian." 2013-04-11T01:54:40 lol 2013-04-11T01:55:06 I'd be hoping my gums weren't burning off after a few bites of that 2013-04-11T01:55:42 siracha isn't that I didn't think 2013-04-11T01:56:18 It 2013-04-11T01:56:22 It's definitely cocksauce 2013-04-11T01:56:46 http://theoatmeal.com/comics/sriracha 2013-04-11T01:57:01 It's _that_ stuff 2013-04-11T01:57:07 Same bottle and everything 2013-04-11T01:57:13 Hot as f**k 2013-04-11T01:57:27 wilpig_: be down in a minute stopping off at the head 2013-04-11T01:57:33 yeah I know that stuff. I like hot food though 2013-04-11T01:57:44 i'm like mirage going to the thai place ordering stuff "native" 2013-04-11T01:57:47 Damn amatuers 2013-04-11T01:57:56 They're phishing resource account mailboxes 2013-04-11T01:58:26 I was looking at "AMMS, Resource" in the To: field and seeing this big warning about blah blah blocked because it might be harmful 2013-04-11T01:58:46 I'm thinking "yes, Outlook, please don't fucking hand my browser something not fucking ASCII. 2013-04-11T01:59:25 Sweet galloping jesus I would have been pissed to even see it *try* to do something so dumb 2013-04-11T01:59:46 lol. okay bbiab gonna go help LastChild level a little and get a taco 2013-04-11T02:31:32 heh purdy colors 2013-04-11T02:34:05 do you have keys for any of the bradley circle stuff? 2013-04-11T02:42:20 moi 2013-04-11T02:42:22 ? 2013-04-11T02:42:33 yeah. cause I can kill those two blocking links pretty quick 2013-04-11T02:42:45 1 min 2013-04-11T02:46:29 untitled i have 7 2013-04-11T02:46:44 everything else there is 1 2013-04-11T02:47:04 and untitled you can't reach from here 2013-04-11T02:47:15 no point in me wasting bursters to take out the links then 2013-04-11T02:47:23 nah i wouldn't 2013-04-11T02:55:05 still giggling at the homeless dude giving them the slip 2013-04-11T03:12:47 Dagmar: ping 2013-04-11T03:13:16 nm this is an old post and worded poorly 2013-04-11T03:13:27 *burp* 2013-04-11T03:13:54 do you ever sleep dag? 2013-04-11T03:14:01 Occasionally 2013-04-11T03:14:05 lol 2013-04-11T03:14:11 What homeless guy? 2013-04-11T03:14:13 okay so capture a new portal is 500ap, last reso is 250, placing a reso is 125 right? 2013-04-11T03:14:24 aye 2013-04-11T03:14:25 I'm on call so I kind of _expect_ annoying calls in the middle of the night 2013-04-11T03:14:38 so 1750 per full portal you catch... 2013-04-11T03:14:53 wilpig_: http://ingressfieldguide.com/content/action-points-ap-leveling 2013-04-11T03:14:54 Title: Action Points (AP) & Leveling | Ingress Field Guide (at ingressfieldguide.com) 2013-04-11T03:15:26 Plus my backpack apparently slid into the sink about five minutes ago so not I'm kinda sitting here calming down 2013-04-11T03:15:40 wilpig: Yeah, depends on where you start counting from 2013-04-11T03:15:54 I don't know where the crap people are getting this 60% and 40% stuff from 2013-04-11T03:16:08 I think I can get mirage 38760 AP just building out the city cemetery with that email I sent you 2013-04-11T03:16:23 You can count the eight resonators you probably had to blow away to get the portal or not 2013-04-11T03:16:58 75 per reso, 187 per link +750 for any fields too 2013-04-11T03:17:05 I mean, you make a link, 313 AP. Destroy a link, 187 AP. 2013-04-11T03:17:35 Ah wait. Maths are hard 2013-04-11T03:17:42 was just telling last child. with the keys I have. I can make 12 fields(15000), 20 links (6260), capturing and fully populating 10 portals (17500) = 38760 2013-04-11T03:17:45 Links are 60% 2013-04-11T03:17:49 vagina 2013-04-11T03:18:11 that should bump him into level5 2013-04-11T03:19:03 Still, 313 + 313 + 313 is either just 939 points, or you can make them into a field instead of a daffodil and get anotehr 1250 added to it 2013-04-11T03:19:34 ...or build on someone else's nearby field and get 313 + 313 + 1250 2013-04-11T03:19:48 I really don't get why people even bother with stray links like they do 2013-04-11T03:19:57 and there is that one portal I sent you two that's currently worth about 10k to destroy which would take that total up to almost an even 50k for one visit 2013-04-11T03:20:18 Being that every portal is pretty easily destroyable, if someone's got enemy links in my way, I can just kill them 2013-04-11T03:24:45 Long, crazy-ass links are *not* something I can do anything about when they come from my own team members, tho 2013-04-11T03:26:22 So, just to be clear, power cubes do exactl what you'd think 2013-04-11T03:26:39 Merl fired off an L6 power cube, it did a special animation, and said it gave him 6000 XM 2013-04-11T03:26:52 So basically, energon. 2013-04-11T03:27:03 1000XM per level.. 2013-04-11T03:27:33 I think this will actually be useful because you *can* then sustain somewhat of a formidable defence through remote recharging if you're willing to burn some of them 2013-04-11T03:28:05 ...without having to up and start running between portals 2013-04-11T03:28:25 if you can get them. I still have yet to get one 2013-04-11T03:28:44 they were on apparently by accident for a brief time the other night 2013-04-11T03:29:01 that Merl got *two* in a short span bodes well for their potential frequency 2013-04-11T03:29:57 I mean, I did farm about two dozen portals into the ground this week. No cubes. They ain't droppin' now 2013-04-11T03:30:00 the screenshot did show them as very common 2013-04-11T03:30:42 My gnomes are doing very well now 2013-04-11T03:30:44 Finally. 2013-04-11T03:31:10 I finally have a squad of five doing laps around the compound and a second squad in training areas. 2013-04-11T03:31:23 Finally beginning to farm goblinium like in dwarf fortress 2013-04-11T03:31:35 what game is that? 2013-04-11T03:31:54 fuck. i'm outta peeps 2013-04-11T03:32:59 Gnomoria 2013-04-11T03:33:07 It's like Dwarf Fortress Lite 2013-04-11T03:33:13 gotcha 2013-04-11T03:33:13 ...without the ASCII Matrix action 2013-04-11T03:34:20 I'm about to assign _everyone_ to a militia squad tho so they'll at least wear leather armor 2013-04-11T03:34:28 wilpig_: that screenshot you showed me. Is that the "new" iitc script? since the old site got shut 2013-04-11T03:34:38 there won't be another 2013-04-11T03:35:04 I flipped on the script so I could see the resos at wyatt. a blip here and there on the radar shouldn't get me banned 2013-04-11T03:35:20 ah 2013-04-11T03:35:26 i miss iitc 2013-04-11T03:36:13 have you looked at the fork project? 2013-04-11T03:36:42 different guy took it over since the original guy agreed not to develop it anymore 2013-04-11T03:36:47 yup. but considering that google said don't, a fork isn't exactly a good idea 2013-04-11T04:11:32 damn you wilpig_ my calves are complaining at me lol 2013-04-11T04:17:02 it was worth it to you. that was a tiny walk 2013-04-11T04:19:00 i don't deny it's worth. rough on an old fat man so i'm going again at 4 for the small quad walk maybe try and work it out 2013-04-11T04:19:19 *** Synx|hm has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-04-11T04:26:01 anyone gotten play store 4.0 yet? 2013-04-11T04:26:45 nay 2013-04-11T04:27:49 they only people i know thus far are on g-note 2s 2013-04-11T04:27:54 the* 2013-04-11T04:29:13 so I was looking at marathon's calendar and this popped out at me. of course i'm working that night too. http://www.marathonmusicworks.com/event/252901-otaku-south-xtralrg-nashville/ 2013-04-11T04:30:14 hmm i might could swing that 2013-04-11T04:32:28 tasty ramen... $12 four different kinds of ramen. damn it being at midnight for me though 2013-04-11T04:33:11 it's from 3 til 8 you could hit it b4 work still 2013-04-11T04:34:14 yeah not sure what would still be there by 7 though 2013-04-11T04:34:35 I can always email and see what they'll have in the way for take out kinda thing 2013-04-11T04:36:54 sure, you know you can't pass up REAL ramen 2013-04-11T04:39:52 have you heard of this shop "otaku south" b4? 2013-04-11T04:43:53 looks like it's just catering and events 2013-04-11T04:46:50 nope. first time the other night 2013-04-11T04:47:21 Kombucha 2013-04-11T04:47:23 bah 2013-04-11T04:47:29 http://otakusouth.com/# 2013-04-11T04:47:30 Title: Otaku South/ Japanese Country food in the Deep South (at otakusouth.com) 2013-04-11T04:48:43 yeah i found that. looks like ther is no "brick and mortar" location 2013-04-11T04:48:48 from their website they seem lik ehte food trucks here in town 2013-04-11T04:48:56 right 2013-04-11T05:42:36 *** CNwaV has joined #se2600 2013-04-11T05:47:26 *** CNwaV has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2013-04-11T05:54:08 http://www.google.com/mapmaker/pulse?fid=5223388797399988615:3389791826425339370 2013-04-11T05:54:09 Title: Google Map Maker (at www.google.com) 2013-04-11T05:54:16 neat. watching people update google maps in real time 2013-04-11T06:28:37 *** LastChild has quit IRC (Quit: and the monkey flips the switch) 2013-04-11T07:47:24 I'd really like to stop seeing job postings that make no sense...like a junior dev position requiring 5 years experience as a web developer....& written in really broken english 2013-04-11T07:47:55 'Must have 5+ years of experienceof experienceas awebsoftwaredeveloperand softw ' 2013-04-11T07:48:13 like some recruiter copy/pasted into linkedin & didn't even look 2013-04-11T07:55:26 *** Mirage has joined #se2600 2013-04-11T07:55:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Mirage 2013-04-11T07:59:26 Fucking comment spambots 2013-04-11T08:01:10 *** Mirage has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2013-04-11T08:26:38 *** CNwaV has joined #se2600 2013-04-11T08:32:59 mother... 2013-04-11T08:33:36 I'm about to yank someone's goddamn blog off that machine 2013-04-11T08:42:24 Seriously, if it crashes the machine one more time today I'm yanking it 2013-04-11T09:00:36 *** Mirage has joined #se2600 2013-04-11T09:00:36 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Mirage 2013-04-11T09:02:02 *** Synx|hm has joined #se2600 2013-04-11T09:03:57 I think im getting scammed on ebay 2013-04-11T09:05:15 Probably. It's ebay 2013-04-11T09:06:03 any ideas if theres a time limit to report fraud to either paypal or ebay? 2013-04-11T09:06:34 Its been two weeks and after a number of messages i get a response, that his wife sold the wrong item at a garage sale and he got it back and will be shipping this saturday 2013-04-11T09:07:06 doesn't sound very legit to me, but its such a f'ing deal if its real 2013-04-11T09:07:48 a broken gateway XHD3000 30in monitor, needs the video processing board re-balled or simply baked to re-flow the solder 2013-04-11T09:08:13 ill call up my Amex and see how long i can wait to report fraud 2013-04-11T09:12:04 *** [1]CNwaV <[1]CNwaV!~CNwaV@68.208.149.253> has joined #se2600 2013-04-11T09:12:09 said he is going to refund shipping though 2013-04-11T09:13:08 *** CNwaV has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2013-04-11T09:13:09 *** [1]CNwaV is now known as CNwaV 2013-04-11T09:14:30 amex rocks] 2013-04-11T09:16:05 I'd find out what eBay's policy is first. 2013-04-11T09:16:08 on a side note added a 1tb 7K rpm drive to my esx data store, forgot how slow running multi-vm's on a spinning hhd can be (my SSD filled up) 2013-04-11T09:16:42 If they have a time limit as to when someone's supposed to ship something you've bought. If the guy is past it then yes, he shouldn't be suprised or even able to dispute it when you walk off 2013-04-11T09:18:11 ya it started with, 'sorry i lost the key to our storage shed, just found it and will be shipping tomorrow' that was two weeks ago, finaly get the 'my wife sold it at a garage sale i got it back and will be shipping saturday and refunding you on shipping' today 2013-04-11T09:18:40 he took all my money and lost it on bitcoin im sure ;) 2013-04-11T09:19:54 Could be 2013-04-11T09:20:13 Or it coudl just be regular "jerk around as many people for as long as possible and take all the monies" 2013-04-11T09:20:50 There's a _reason_ you can buy bogus, bot-driven purchases on eBay you know 2013-04-11T09:23:44 hadn't thought about bot, hrm 2013-04-11T09:24:20 Generally _lots_ of bots 2013-04-11T09:24:26 Despite what they claim it's still going on 2013-04-11T09:24:29 he doesn't respond to all my messages though so i doubt a bot, but ya it really does feel like a scam :( such an odd item to post as a scam though 2013-04-11T09:24:34 All you have to do is look at the feedback 2013-04-11T09:24:56 another odd thing i noticed after the purchase, hes got all good feedback number wise but there are a number of 'never paid for item never contacted' for things he purchased 2013-04-11T09:25:03 nothing bad on his sales though 2013-04-11T09:25:07 If they've got a lot of feedback with obvious boilerplate bullshit like "A++++++++ VERY FAST WOULD BUY AGAIN" on it, those were bots. 2013-04-11T09:25:59 They buy small, insignificant items which are never reported as non-delivered because they never existed and were only "paid for" by transferring money between various accounts. 2013-04-11T09:26:39 eBay's cut on small items is very small, and so they can rack up a high reputation score in order to start listing larger ticket items to sucker in people who'll give them a significant amount of money 2013-04-11T09:26:50 hrm 2013-04-11T09:26:52 THOSE people get fucked 2013-04-11T09:27:03 So scrutinize his buyers and what they bought very carefully. 2013-04-11T09:27:16 well it was only $125 so not really a money making scan unless he's doing it on a very large scale 2013-04-11T09:27:22 ill dig into it now 2013-04-11T09:27:53 why does sellers give him positive feed back with 'never paid, never messaged me' 2013-04-11T09:27:56 wtf 2013-04-11T09:28:18 He might just be a flake, but generally if I don't see something within three days from the person after the sale, there'd better be a really good explanation for it 2013-04-11T09:29:17 There's no way I'd have let a purchase go for two weeks with no response and no shipping info. 2013-04-11T09:29:35 Shit's online. There's no excuse for that kind of delay if things are on the level. 2013-04-11T09:29:43 ya 2013-04-11T09:30:24 ill send him another email and if i dont get tracking info by saturday ill put in a dispute with ebay/paypal and call the Amex peeps 2013-04-11T09:37:57 i really want to believe hes just a lazy flake and not a scammer 2013-04-11T09:40:12 ugh. fuckin' smurfs 2013-04-11T09:40:13 man btc tanked yesterday 2013-04-11T09:40:23 new smurf i'm seeing all over town named religion. 2013-04-11T09:41:08 another lvl4 or 5 named mjdsomething or other stops at the library daily nwo and beats the crap out of it with low crap then this fuck came by and took out a 6,7,8 with one blast 2013-04-11T09:43:56 and I got my taxes in. I owe $900 for sure now. went from the 15% tax bracket to the 25% just plain got bent the fuck over 2013-04-11T09:48:01 http://www.bankrate.com/finance/taxes/tax-brackets.aspx 2013-04-11T09:48:02 Title: Tax Brackets | Income Tax Brackets 2013 - Bankrate.com (at www.bankrate.com) 2013-04-11T09:48:55 look at it this way 2013-04-11T09:49:24 instead of giving the govt a interest free loan for a year, you got the keep the money and use it as you wish and collect interest on it 2013-04-11T09:50:23 i, on the other hand, gave the govt a 5K interest free loan this year, i could have done much better things if i had withheld correctly and invested the money on my own 2013-04-11T09:51:26 I'm looking at it as I already gave them a shitload of money and they're coming back for another go at my wallet 2013-04-11T09:52:10 i guess thats one way, those fuckers 2013-04-11T09:52:35 lets see, they get a cut off the top when i get my paycheck, they get another cut every time i spend said money 2013-04-11T09:53:01 and they can't fucking manage it so we are stuck in a terribly mess 2013-04-11T09:53:59 at least ive got social security to fall back on 2013-04-11T09:55:35 been lucky enough to no have to pay state income tax now for about 8 years, but i get to pay this year :( 2013-04-11T09:55:58 moving to TX soon though, but they'll get it out of my by property tax rape 2013-04-11T11:14:15 need some ideas, im looking for a way to auto run some commands when a usb hd gets connected, the hd is encrypted so part of the auto run will be mouting the volume with truecrypt using the keyfile and then running a backup script 2013-04-11T11:41:35 *** v4mp has joined #se2600 2013-04-11T11:50:22 *** x86Daddy has joined #se2600 2013-04-11T11:55:18 wilpig_: does the tax bracket thing only apply to federal income tax? 2013-04-11T11:56:32 peacebyfire: depends upon how your state income tax law is structured 2013-04-11T11:56:40 TN 2013-04-11T11:56:56 TN has no income tax, just a tax on interest income 2013-04-11T11:57:51 Of course, if all of your interest income is from federal bonds, those are explicitly excluded from that interest income tax 2013-04-11T11:58:54 I had that problem last year when TurboTax (erroneously) concluded that I owed that tax, even though all of my interest income was from cashing federal savings bonds. 2013-04-11T12:00:19 interest income... what does that come from? Sorry, kind of new to the real work force 2013-04-11T12:00:34 *** sync350 has quit IRC (Quit: wtfsleepomg) 2013-04-11T12:01:05 Interest income comes from interest earned on savings 2013-04-11T12:01:36 if you're new to the workforce, sometimes it doesn't hurt to find a tax person to take a quick review of your stuff for like $50 2013-04-11T12:01:48 although, tbh, if you make a few honest mistakes, not like the IRS will find them and/or care 2013-04-11T12:01:55 Normally it doesn't ever hit the threshold, except when you cash savings bonds, because the interest is deferred until they're redeemed 2013-04-11T12:01:59 and if you overpay, theoretically your returns will cover you 2013-04-11T12:02:37 So the only type of savings bonds you'd ever need to worry about would be municipal savings bonds 2013-04-11T12:02:46 alas, I just calculated that my federal income tax withheld is only 11% 2013-04-11T12:02:58 and I'm in 25% bracket 2013-04-11T12:03:49 peacebyfire: I'd advise you to buy a house, then. The mortgage interest deduction may help you lower your taxes 2013-04-11T12:05:03 A house is generally a smart investment vehicle, because not only do you get to deduct the interest charges, but it's a fairly stable asset that usually only increases in value. 2013-04-11T12:05:37 Especially now, when housing prices are depressed 2013-04-11T12:05:42 I hope to move out of the state in the next two years and I'm in a lease until May 2013-04-11T12:05:49 next may 2013-04-11T12:06:29 Why in god's name would you want to move out of Tennessee? We attract a ton of jobs and we have one of the lowest tax rates, not to mention costs of living, in the country. 2013-04-11T12:07:07 There are all sorts of industries moving to Tennessee for that very reason 2013-04-11T12:09:28 I like Austin TX. I've been here for so long 2013-04-11T12:09:32 my whole life 2013-04-11T12:13:45 gha have heard so many awesome things about Austin 2013-04-11T12:13:53 SXSW ftmfw 2013-04-11T12:14:02 North Korea target... 2013-04-11T12:14:34 really? you think NK would god after austin? 2013-04-11T12:15:03 It's on their map of the 4 US cities 2013-04-11T12:15:17 Honolulu, DC, and I forget the last one 2013-04-11T12:15:37 v4mp: have you never been? seriously go. Beautiful women, great music, everyone is super nice 2013-04-11T12:15:45 where did you read this? 2013-04-11T12:16:54 It's been in the news 2013-04-11T12:17:03 google fiber is comming to austin 2013-04-11T12:17:20 Nobody thinks that North Korea has a chance in hell of actually getting any missiles anywhere near the US, of course 2013-04-11T12:17:23 on and acl music fest FTW!!! 2013-04-11T12:17:46 http://storify.com/deborapetersen/reaction-on-social-media-it-was-hard-to-take-north 2013-04-11T12:17:47 Title: North Korea targets U.S. cities, social media reacts with humor, skepticism (with images, tweets) · deborapetersen · Storify (at storify.com) 2013-04-11T12:18:00 San Diego is the last one 2013-04-11T12:18:03 and austin has a great cost of living, though traffic blows 2013-04-11T12:18:40 they have awesome public traffic system too 2013-04-11T12:19:04 something nashville is sorely lacking 2013-04-11T12:19:20 im debating between austin and fort worth right now, problem is austin is 6 hour drive from my one a month work travels 2013-04-11T12:19:35 and wife's family is all in dallas and our first kid is due in july 2013-04-11T12:19:40 and NK isn't going to get a missile past Japan. 2013-04-11T12:19:56 they've made it past japan before 2013-04-11T12:20:03 oh i see what you mean, ya 2013-04-11T12:20:10 japan didnt care before 2013-04-11T12:20:37 if it makes it past japan sure as hell wont make it past hawaii 2013-04-11T12:20:59 and imho, they are going to stike Guam first 2013-04-11T12:21:00 We'll shoot their missiles down, crush their infrastructure, and be in Pyong-Yang before their missiles make it halfway to Honolulu 2013-04-11T12:21:52 Pyong-Yang will be Korean for Baghdad 2013-04-11T12:22:02 Guam is the biggest air threat to nK, we maintain a cont. bomber rotation on Guam 2013-04-11T12:22:51 Synx: then why did the B-52's doing a test bomb run near North Korea fly out of Missouri? 2013-04-11T12:22:56 problem is, NK doesn't give a shit if they're blown out of the water 2013-04-11T12:23:05 Just a massive show of ability and force? 2013-04-11T12:23:20 Corydon76-work: they didn't the artical was fucked up, b-52's dont fly out of whiteman afb 2013-04-11T12:23:26 it was B-2's 2013-04-11T12:23:41 Oh, B-2s 2013-04-11T12:23:59 but ya as a 'show of force' in anycase they have flowing b-52's up there form guam too 2013-04-11T12:24:34 i've been to Guam 3 times now for deployments 2013-04-11T12:24:38 peacebyfire: yea never been :'( 2013-04-11T12:24:56 * Synx|hm is b-52 avaitor 2013-04-11T12:25:09 thats awesome 2013-04-11T12:25:53 anyone else here eagerly anticipating DPRK's medium-range missile test? 2013-04-11T12:26:03 wasn't a bad way to earn a paycheck for 8 years ;) i just got off active duty though so back into the real world, though i still flying in the reserves 2013-04-11T12:26:10 it's funny because, I spent quite a fair amount of time in that portion of the world, and sometimes it was a bit troubling 2013-04-11T12:26:18 but now being in the USA, it's like... yea let's watch the fireworks 2013-04-11T12:26:39 haha, ya im sure is quite stressfull living in that portion of the pacific 2013-04-11T12:26:55 btw, Synx|hm, thanks for your service 2013-04-11T12:26:58 nK is completely unstable in leadership 2013-04-11T12:27:02 v4mp: I think it's an excellent chance for the US to show off just how good we are at shooting their missiles down. Once they're over international waters, they're fair game. 2013-04-11T12:27:27 yea... see how well our shielding system actually works 2013-04-11T12:27:40 although it looks like Japan is really eager to assert itself with missile defense 2013-04-11T12:27:53 they put like, what, 3 batteries in tokyo? 2013-04-11T12:28:00 ya sure would be a nice f-u to nK 2013-04-11T12:28:53 though I'd also be interesting in seeing whether we can make their missiles blow up before they ever clear the launch pad. 2013-04-11T12:29:12 haha, starwars 2013-04-11T12:29:46 I wasn't thinking starwars... but an appropriate high aircraft with a 100 watt laser might work 2013-04-11T12:30:03 v4mp: thanks, it was a great part of my life, but glad i moved on :) 2013-04-11T12:30:20 ^^ 2013-04-11T12:30:56 i kill for a chance to see what amazing tech we have now, no doubt theres some crazy shit we could do 2013-04-11T12:31:45 haha yea.. from both a technological persepective, as well as the more primitive "oh shit yea blowing shit up" point of view 2013-04-11T12:32:21 haha ya 2013-04-11T12:33:30 my favorite flights in the buff were low altitude drops on a tinly island bombing range north of guam, 45x 750lbs bombs dropped at around 2K feel AGL is amazing, feel them leave the jet and then feel them go BOOM ;) 2013-04-11T12:35:21 xDD 2013-04-11T12:38:31 didnt we try this once before in korea? 2013-04-11T12:39:22 i mean, as if the 100 years of countries losing wars in afghanistan wasn't enough to convince us not to spend the last 1.5 decades there 2013-04-11T12:39:35 now we're going to try for korea.. again? 2013-04-11T12:39:50 GOOD FUCKING LUCK IDIOTS 2013-04-11T12:40:00 I doubt USA would invade DPRK 2013-04-11T12:40:09 it's even more of a losing proposition than the middle east 2013-04-11T12:40:31 at least in the middle east, there was some semblance of basic necessities present such as food source 2013-04-11T12:40:47 if DPRK goes down, ROK and China will have to deal with all the refugees 2013-04-11T12:41:22 and doubtful China would be happy with the USA installing a military dictatorship 2013-04-11T13:16:50 *** rhia has quit IRC (Quit: off to the see the wizard of odd) 2013-04-11T13:18:02 *** rhia has joined #se2600 2013-04-11T13:18:02 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o rhia 2013-04-11T13:31:02 *** rhia has quit IRC (Quit: off to the see the wizard of odd) 2013-04-11T13:31:51 *** rhia has joined #se2600 2013-04-11T13:31:51 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o rhia 2013-04-11T13:39:23 *** rhia has quit IRC (Quit: off to the see the wizard of odd) 2013-04-11T13:40:08 *** rhia has joined #se2600 2013-04-11T13:40:08 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o rhia 2013-04-11T14:19:34 http://weeklyworldnews.com/opinion/43838/asian-women-reveal-secrets-to-keeping-a-man-happy/ 2013-04-11T14:19:35 Title: ASIAN WOMEN REVEAL SECRETS TO KEEPING A MAN HAPPY | Weekly World News (at weeklyworldnews.com) 2013-04-11T14:19:40 lawl 2013-04-11T14:21:05 *** Synx|hm has quit IRC (Quit: Changing server) 2013-04-11T14:21:49 *** Synx|hm has joined #se2600 2013-04-11T14:23:09 Anybody looking for a sysadmin job in Nashville? 2013-04-11T14:24:24 entry level? 2013-04-11T14:24:48 Mid-range 2013-04-11T14:44:41 bah... I think I'd be a better fit for a junior admin position. 2013-04-11T14:44:59 But yeah... maybe. 2013-04-11T14:45:27 (more of a question of whether I could do it, right now I'm sitting on my ass doing nothing) 2013-04-11T15:01:26 *** Synx|hm_ has joined #se2600 2013-04-11T15:04:48 *** Synx|hm has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-04-11T15:52:55 *** x86Daddy has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-04-11T15:53:02 *** x86Daddy1 has joined #se2600 2013-04-11T16:04:19 what's the difference between junior and mid-range? 2013-04-11T16:08:07 Fair enough. 2013-04-11T16:13:34 should have known deploying froma template in vmware kills windows activation 2013-04-11T16:13:39 *** Synx|hm_ is now known as Synx|hm 2013-04-11T16:14:07 so did that just kill a license on the KMS? 2013-04-11T16:16:24 I almost wonder if the difference is how long it takes from the initial "oh fuck the system is down" alert to getting it back online 2013-04-11T17:01:46 *** CNwaV has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2013-04-11T17:11:04 *** v4mp has quit IRC () 2013-04-11T17:15:08 *** opensorcerer has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2013-04-11T17:34:36 *** ZeroMinuS has joined #se2600 2013-04-11T17:42:24 *** ZeroMinuS has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-04-11T18:00:04 *** CNwaV has joined #se2600 2013-04-11T18:06:21 *** ZeroMinuS has joined #se2600 2013-04-11T18:23:47 well that was stupid 2013-04-11T18:23:57 note to self: don't overwrite libc again 2013-04-11T18:24:08 Nice... 2013-04-11T18:24:34 What possessed you to try that? 2013-04-11T18:25:26 I was trying to get python 2.7 working on an ubuntu 10.04 system 2013-04-11T18:25:32 I made a backup before doing this, of course 2013-04-11T18:26:23 If you don't have the right package to do that upgrade, then the right thing to do is to compile python 2.7 from scratch 2013-04-11T18:26:49 yes, that would have been smart. 2013-04-11T18:28:09 Something even worse is trying to overwrite ld.so 2013-04-11T18:28:59 Well see the best part 2013-04-11T18:29:11 Is that the system died and tried to reboot right after I did that 2013-04-11T18:29:20 So now rackspace has a cloud instance that's in perpetual reboot 2013-04-11T18:29:49 Talented 2013-04-11T18:30:10 and they're going to charge you for all of those cpu cycles 2013-04-11T18:30:33 That's an accounting issue, not my department. 2013-04-11T18:30:52 Wait, is this your employer? 2013-04-11T18:31:17 no 2013-04-11T18:32:21 *** ZeroMinuS has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-04-11T18:33:07 And you don't think you're going to get charged for a ton of wasted cpu cycles? 2013-04-11T18:34:46 prepaid debit cards rock 2013-04-11T18:35:55 Only if they're not traceable back to you 2013-04-11T18:36:50 If it's less than $50, I'm sure they won't do the legwork, but for a couple hundred? They might. 2013-04-11T18:37:11 what if you pay with cash? 2013-04-11T18:38:15 You hope that the video camera recording the transaction has a time limit whereby it gets deleted before someone comes looking for it 2013-04-11T18:38:46 Or that the video camera is just a dummy meant to discourage thieves 2013-04-11T18:40:16 and that the store clerk doesn't have eidetic memory 2013-04-11T18:40:34 and that you're never going to shop there again 2013-04-11T18:40:47 you know 2013-04-11T18:40:55 they'd have to be really mad 2013-04-11T18:41:16 Not really mad. Just enough money for it to be worth their time to do the legwork 2013-04-11T18:41:34 It's all about the economics. 2013-04-11T18:42:25 They can find out pretty quickly what store and what timecode, and if the video still exists, they'll have your face 2013-04-11T18:43:00 and if you still come around there, it won't take very long for someone to recognize your face on the video feed 2013-04-11T18:43:46 That's why I said $50. They can hire someone to do the legwork for about that much 2013-04-11T18:44:13 *** ZeroMinuS has joined #se2600 2013-04-11T18:44:27 Then it's a single lawsuit filed, if you don't show up, default judgment, and they garnish your pay 2013-04-11T18:44:49 That's how most of them do it. The lawyer is already expensed. 2013-04-11T18:44:52 Have you been through this before? 2013-04-11T18:45:06 I've dealt with bill collectors 2013-04-11T18:45:10 Ahh. 2013-04-11T18:45:36 They're all about finding the cheapest way to get the money, even if the cheapest way isn't the way to ensure they actually get it all 2013-04-11T18:46:05 So when the law requires certified mail, they'll use standard mail 2013-04-11T18:46:36 They can shake enough trees with standard mail to make it worth it, even if certified mail would ensure they could collect everything. 2013-04-11T18:46:37 There's a bill collector that's been trying to nail me for a $100 bill for 13 years 2013-04-11T18:46:53 I'm pretty sure they have spent more money than that trying to track me down over the years 2013-04-11T18:47:10 If you haven't paid a dime on the bill, then it's uncollectable after 7 years 2013-04-11T18:47:27 Oh really. 2013-04-11T18:47:51 As long as you've never admitted the debt was valid. 2013-04-11T18:47:54 Yep, statute of limitations on debt. Once a debt is 7 years old, it's wiped 2013-04-11T18:48:12 Bahhumbug: even then. The key is that there's no change in status. 2013-04-11T18:48:29 Is that why they try to garnish wages, etc? 2013-04-11T18:48:36 If you pay a dime on the bill at 6 years, 11 months, 29 days, the clock is reset 2013-04-11T18:48:37 Corydon76-work: I thought the key to this was deniability (which comes as part of non-payment, of course). 2013-04-11T18:49:07 Bahhumbug: that's another tact you can take 2013-04-11T18:49:08 By the way... 2013-04-11T18:49:13 Is this week over with yet? 2013-04-11T18:49:20 Almost 2013-04-11T18:49:26 Because if not it really, really needs to be. 2013-04-11T18:49:28 Soon. 2013-04-11T18:49:29 Like now. 2013-04-11T18:49:52 You can use some of the denial procedures to invalidate debt, because bill collectors always take the cheapest route 2013-04-11T18:50:30 Example: once you challenge the veracity of a debt, they have 30 days to provide proof of the debt. If they don't provide proof within that time period, the debt is invalid 2013-04-11T18:51:26 Now supposing they send the proof by standard mail, and don't get back to you with another demand for 30 days. And suppose that standard mail is lost. They don't have any proof that you received it, and courts will readily agree: it's now invalid. 2013-04-11T18:52:25 So at this point, you reiterate that proof was not received within 30 days, the debt is invalid, and if they don't stop pestering you, you'll sue. 2013-04-11T18:53:10 Being sued is the last thing a bill collector wants. It throws their entire economic system out of the ballpark 2013-04-11T18:54:28 Oh, and bill collectors generally use the last bill sent as "proof". Courts have already ruled that a bill is not proof. 2013-04-11T18:55:23 Only thing a bill proves is that they billed you. It doesn't prove that they billed you correctly or that the debt is valid. 2013-04-11T18:58:30 *** x86Daddy1 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2013-04-11T19:06:23 *** CNwaV has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 2013-04-11T20:12:33 *** ladymerlin has joined #se2600 2013-04-11T20:12:33 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ladymerlin 2013-04-11T20:14:51 *** Synx|hm has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-04-11T20:19:44 AWESOME INCOMING 2013-04-11T20:19:45 http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1c5zxh/i_am_morgan_freeman_ask_me_anything/ 2013-04-11T20:19:46 Title: I am Morgan Freeman ask me anything : IAmA (at www.reddit.com) 2013-04-11T20:28:53 ask him what's it's like to be god, and how did he get those extra two fingers on jimcarrey's hand 2013-04-11T20:30:29 Dagmar: swo03lp-hc, yours? 2013-04-11T20:36:39 Okay some asshole is _really_ pissing off mod_security 2013-04-11T20:37:50 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2307429/Angelina-Jolie-turns-elder-stateswoman-grey-hairs-match-G8-Summit.html 2013-04-11T20:37:51 Title: Angelina Jolie turns elder stateswoman with the grey hairs to match at G8 Summit | Mail Online (at www.dailymail.co.uk) 2013-04-11T20:37:54 oops 2013-04-11T20:37:58 http://gawker.com/5994282/couple-spots-approaching-google-street-view-car-stops-by-the-side-of-the-road-to-have-sex 2013-04-11T20:37:59 Title: Couple Spots Approaching Google Street View Car; Stops By the Side of the Road to Have Sex (at gawker.com) 2013-04-11T20:38:01 that's the article i meant to link 2013-04-11T20:38:55 old news 2013-04-11T20:39:20 http://se2600.org/ircstats/day.html 2013-04-11T20:39:21 Title: #se2600 @ Freenode stats by Evilpig (at se2600.org) 2013-04-11T20:39:24 look at the links from yesterday 2013-04-11T20:39:35 #3 2013-04-11T20:39:42 lol 2013-04-11T20:39:51 fuck I look young 2013-04-11T20:40:05 I love how the most active time is around midnight 2013-04-11T20:40:53 those are just teh stats for yesterday. it evens out over the week 2013-04-11T20:42:18 I should fill in some of the missing ones again. 2013-04-11T20:44:11 I'm blocking someone's ass 2013-04-11T20:44:34 How shall we contact netsec? 2013-04-11T20:44:37 Dagmar: do you need an adult? should we call the cops? do you need to file a report? 2013-04-11T20:44:57 We need to contact netsec 2013-04-11T20:45:04 pulling their pager number now 2013-04-11T20:45:08 5,931 accesses of one PDF file, from one IP address 2013-04-11T20:45:16 Lemme pull Hogan's number up 2013-04-11T20:45:21 I have it 2013-04-11T20:45:45 want me to have them call you direct or ocs? 2013-04-11T20:46:13 I'm not on OCS remotely, just tell them they'r eabout to get a request to blacklist an IP address 2013-04-11T20:46:19 k 2013-04-11T20:46:22 This ain't nothing but a DoS attack 2013-04-11T20:47:46 terry is on call and he's waiting for the requst 2013-04-11T20:49:45 Yeah two gigabytes of bandwidth wasted in 45 minutes by one dude 2013-04-11T20:49:51 Email it to him? 2013-04-11T20:50:47 Crap wahts' his last name (PM) 2013-04-11T20:51:09 Danke 2013-04-11T20:53:35 Email AWAY 2013-04-11T20:54:16 Jesus fuck 25,145 gets before the logs rotated 2013-04-11T21:03:53 *** LastChild has joined #se2600 2013-04-11T21:03:53 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o LastChild 2013-04-11T21:06:40 Dagmar: Were those range requests or just blanket GETs on the file? 2013-04-11T21:08:47 Blanket GETs 2013-04-11T21:09:00 First thing I did was to see if it was some inline browser 2013-04-11T21:09:07 * Bahhumbug nods 2013-04-11T21:09:07 Also, the rate is fucking ridiculous 2013-04-11T21:09:16 30,000+ requests in the last 24 hours 2013-04-11T21:09:41 That's only 1250 an hour. 2013-04-11T21:09:41 Maybe he's retrieving one byte at a time as far as he knows, I don't care. 2013-04-11T21:10:10 They're not even some kind of stalky HEAD checks 2013-04-11T21:11:55 Probably some chalk eater hitting ^r 1250 times an hour. 2013-04-11T21:12:17 Ok, not really, but the comment amused me. 2013-04-11T21:13:33 lol 2013-04-11T21:15:15 UNless he died and fell on the F5 key I doubt it 2013-04-11T21:17:38 The thing was grabbing at a rate of more than one per second at times 2013-04-11T21:21:46 Now rotatin' me some logs to get the 2Gb log file under control 2013-04-11T21:22:15 Irritatingly, these are the last six boxes that I've not sat down and beaten mod_security into submission on 2013-04-11T21:24:08 At least I've gotten most of the dirty work done towards automation of keeping an eye on this crap 2013-04-11T21:24:26 It took me awhile to figure out the absurdly long-tail accesses 2013-04-11T21:24:41 Like thousands of hits from more or less random IP addresses to a wide-array of documents 2013-04-11T21:24:50 Apparently people's shit checking for updates to their bookmarks 2013-04-11T22:17:06 *** CircuitSpider has joined #se2600 2013-04-11T22:18:38 anyone know if 404 or 678 is active? 2013-04-11T22:19:48 recently moved from nyc metro, lookin for my new local. plz hmu 2013-04-11T22:26:36 *** RangerZ has joined #se2600 2013-04-11T22:35:09 I think there's a couple folks that hang out in here in the Atlanta area... but I don't think there are meetings anymore. 2013-04-11T22:36:32 thats gonna have to change 2013-04-11T23:00:47 lol 2013-04-11T23:00:55 404 isn't really active anymore 2013-04-11T23:01:06 most of them moved into the dc404 realm 2013-04-11T23:01:24 but this would be your local channel 2013-04-11T23:01:51 there a hackerspace or anything? 2013-04-11T23:02:00 in meatspace 2013-04-11T23:02:27 any sort of scene? 2013-04-11T23:10:42 wilpig_: You seem to have a tail. 2013-04-11T23:19:33 wilpig_: you got any ibuprofen down there? 2013-04-11T23:52:22 https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/wat 2013-04-11T23:52:24 Title: Wat Destroy All Software Talks (at www.destroyallsoftware.com)