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2013-02-26T01:23:46  <Dagmar> I think I just wrote about a 15k explanation
2013-02-26T01:23:58  <Dagmar> If that tool deletes it so help me I will pie him.
2013-02-26T01:24:35  <Dagmar> If I have to break out a fucking simulator and put it through 10,000 iterations, I will no longer be attempting to be civil about it
2013-02-26T01:24:55  <Dagmar> The goddamn game drives everything back to L4.
2013-02-26T01:25:05  <Dagmar> "Not sucking" is the only way to escape it.
2013-02-26T01:27:35  <RangerZ> dagmar, more than 100k
2013-02-26T01:27:40  <RangerZ> you need atleast 10m
2013-02-26T01:27:41  <RangerZ> lol
2013-02-26T01:28:37  <Dagmar> I could code up a simulator in that amount of space
2013-02-26T01:29:36  <Dagmar> I just can't believe this dude is being an ass about whether or not resonators have to survive two days for even two L7 people working together to break even
2013-02-26T01:31:15  <RangerZ> the problem is still the same, its too easy to destroy resonators IMHO
2013-02-26T01:31:30  <Dagmar> we've been watching the result of that failure over the last two weeks
2013-02-26T01:32:09  <Dagmar> RangerZ: Yes, it's pretty much a constant that by the time you have enough resonators to populate a portal, you also have enough resonators to destroy it
2013-02-26T01:32:43  <Dagmar> Oh and now shields can be destroyed without having to obliterate the whole portal, so they might as well be completely ineffectual unless the enemy fucks up a lot
2013-02-26T01:32:56  <RangerZ> ugh...
2013-02-26T01:33:13  <Dagmar> The game was weapons-heavy before, and now it's worse
2013-02-26T01:34:09  <Dagmar> I'll consider this a win if I even get so far as to stop people thinking that mid-attack recharging is an effective defense
2013-02-26T01:34:11  <RangerZ> Dagmar: https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/387779_544735085559436_616866220_n.jpg
2013-02-26T01:34:14  <Dagmar> At best it's an annoyance
2013-02-26T01:34:15  <RangerZ> you'll appreciate that
2013-02-26T01:37:00  <Dagmar> hahah
2013-02-26T01:37:17  <Dagmar> Someone's got a weird-ass hobby there
2013-02-26T01:37:55  <RangerZ> leave wilpig out of this...
2013-02-26T01:38:23  <RangerZ> (and there is an entire group of people who buy up those cars like there is no tomorrow)
2013-02-26T01:38:39  <RangerZ> a friend of mine from Ytown wanted to do it too... i was like...wtf
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2013-02-26T01:55:46  <Dagmar> I might care fi they start refitting them with high powered super-cap electric engines
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2013-02-26T07:58:10  <Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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2013-02-26T09:35:13  <peacebyfire> mornin'
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2013-02-26T10:53:56  <RangerZ> is there (i thought there was, but i can't find one right now by googling) a DB of network/server/computer security attacks, a taxonomy of how they work, "what they use: buffer overflow, etc", "what they target: linux/osx" , etc
2013-02-26T11:30:50  <jim_ec2> cve?
2013-02-26T11:31:46  <frsilent> isn't this that? http://www.metasploit.com/modules/
2013-02-26T11:31:47  <GateKeeper> Title: Exploit Database (DB) | Metasploit (at www.metasploit.com)
2013-02-26T11:37:38  <jim_ec2> there is that too
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2013-02-26T14:38:27  <NotLarry> BULLSHIT
2013-02-26T14:38:31  <NotLarry> oh, not you.
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2013-02-26T14:58:05  <wilpig> damnit.  well i'm awake
2013-02-26T14:59:49  <mog> typo NotLarry ? all keys are right next to each other
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2013-02-26T15:13:01  <wilpig> My upstairs neighbors need their legs amputated at the knees
2013-02-26T15:13:14  <wilpig> sounds like a fucking herd of buffalo up there.
2013-02-26T15:25:25  <jim_ec2> lol
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2013-02-26T15:25:31  <jim_ec2> so glad i bought my house
2013-02-26T15:25:39  <jim_ec2> totally forgot about annoyances like that
2013-02-26T15:31:22  <wilpig> i'll buy another
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2013-02-26T15:38:47  <Dagmar> I started to grease the stairs in the breezeway because of an upstairs neighbor's little kid stomping around at all hours
2013-02-26T15:44:05  <wilpig> I swear I am hearing a saw
2013-02-26T15:44:30  <wilpig> and from the thumping around they can't have carpet up there
2013-02-26T15:52:15  <Dagmar> Dunno WTF is up with G+
2013-02-26T15:52:43  <Dagmar> Someone was carping about having gone from 37 users to 34...  I look on the right of the window.  36 users, 2 moderators.
2013-02-26T15:53:08  <Dagmar> I'm still trying to figure out who the people are Jay keeps claiming I'm "offending".
2013-02-26T15:53:15  <Dagmar> Mainly I think it's just him with his panties in a bunch
2013-02-26T15:58:27  <v4mp> people being offended on the internet?
2013-02-26T15:58:46  <aestetix> ok so
2013-02-26T15:58:52  <Dagmar> yep.
2013-02-26T15:58:58  <aestetix> you guys remember Carolyn Meinel, right?
2013-02-26T15:59:08  <Dagmar> I am just baffled because normally everyone on the internet is so _reasonable_
2013-02-26T15:59:33  <Dagmar> aestetic: She finally got caught with little boys locked in the attic?
2013-02-26T15:59:50  <aestetix> Dagmar: no, but her daughter is now causing all kinds of trouble
2013-02-26T15:59:58  <Dagmar> Crypto girl?
2013-02-26T16:00:02  <aestetix> (note: her daughter runs the Ada Initiative)
2013-02-26T16:00:54  <aestetix> do a twitter search for "@adainitiative" and look at all the angry comments :p
2013-02-26T16:01:23  <Dagmar> Oh wow
2013-02-26T16:01:29  <Dagmar> They shit on Violet Blue's talk?
2013-02-26T16:01:35  <Dagmar> LOL massive mistake
2013-02-26T16:01:57  <Dagmar> The trigger warning shit on their page is just mad
2013-02-26T16:02:03  <aestetix> Yep.
2013-02-26T16:02:22  <Dagmar> If someone's worried about flashbacks at a talk, the simple answer is to just not attend the goddamn talk
2013-02-26T16:02:22  <aestetix> If there is anyone you don't want to piss off, it's Violet Blue
2013-02-26T16:02:32  <aestetix> shush stop talking logic and reason
2013-02-26T16:02:35  <Dagmar> Well, she appears to know what the fuck she's talking about
2013-02-26T16:02:52  <aestetix> Violet?
2013-02-26T16:03:04  <aestetix> Violet is a topic expert in sex things. And she's a tech writer for ZDNet.
2013-02-26T16:03:09  <aestetix> I think that qualifies her.
2013-02-26T16:03:32  <wilpig> aestetix: I need proof on her expert status on sex things.
2013-02-26T16:03:51  <aestetix> wilpig: she has several sex related books in print?
2013-02-26T16:04:22  <aestetix> http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=violet+blue
2013-02-26T16:04:42  <aestetix> actually
2013-02-26T16:04:43  <aestetix> http://www.amazon.com/Violet-Blue/e/B001JRZ0EY/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1?qid=1361912653&sr=8-1
2013-02-26T16:04:46  <aestetix> that's a better link
2013-02-26T16:04:49  <aestetix> also, nsfw
2013-02-26T16:05:06  <Dagmar> Hah
2013-02-26T16:05:08  <wilpig> so she's a writer.  pfftttt
2013-02-26T16:05:09  <Dagmar> I don't even have to search
2013-02-26T16:05:13  <Dagmar> I can see people bitching in my feed already
2013-02-26T16:05:40  <Dagmar> Even Quinn seems kinda pissed
2013-02-26T16:06:05  <aestetix> yep
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2013-02-26T16:06:56  <wilpig> this latest wd firmware has pissed me off.  downgrading we go
2013-02-26T16:07:28  <aestetix> I have to admit, this round is colorful
2013-02-26T16:07:42  <aestetix> Val's actions around CCC pissed off a lot of people, but nobody could say much.
2013-02-26T16:07:58  <aestetix> And now she's gone and fucked with Violet, so all the people who were mad but silent are speaking up now
2013-02-26T16:08:46  <Dagmar> Seems to be just a bit of astroturfing going on there too
2013-02-26T16:09:18  <Dagmar> Multiple people who just out of the blue feel the need to talk about how ada is the future of blogging
2013-02-26T16:09:40  <aestetix> oh boy
2013-02-26T16:13:41  <Dagmar> CHUM THE WATERS!
2013-02-26T16:14:26  <Dagmar> If there's any chance this sort of idiocy might wind up at PN, please let me know well in advance
2013-02-26T16:14:43  <Dagmar> I'm going to need to get the biggest bullhorn I can find, and shipping might take awhile
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2013-02-26T16:16:26  <aestetix> well
2013-02-26T16:16:41  <aestetix> I have no idea, but if you get an email form the ada initiative, beware :p
2013-02-26T16:17:32  <Dagmar> They might be insane enough to email me?
2013-02-26T16:17:47  <Dagmar> ...because this is looking like some ez-mode stuff so far
2013-02-26T16:17:56  <Dagmar> "The abstract of the talk was not available until after the decision to cancel the talk, and does not reflect the same topic as the title of the talk suggests."
2013-02-26T16:18:33  <Dagmar> The subject didn't actually suggest much at all
2013-02-26T16:18:45  <Dagmar> It certainly didn't suggest anything overtly negative
2013-02-26T16:18:59  <Dagmar> They should have looked at the fucking name and figured out it's Violet's usual
2013-02-26T16:19:11  <aestetix> yep
2013-02-26T16:19:13  <Dagmar> ...which is pretty reasonable.
2013-02-26T16:19:30  <wilpig> 10 min and I should be getting a phone call
2013-02-26T16:19:41  <Dagmar> Instead they push to have it cancelled because they apparently assume everything is bad until a grown-up explains it t othem
2013-02-26T16:19:52  <Dagmar> that's a load of knee-jerk shit right there
2013-02-26T16:25:56  <Dagmar> I'd find it rather amusing if they tried to hold hteir own conference
2013-02-26T16:26:41  <Dagmar> Probably better than 80% of the men around would just instinctively know it would be a free-for-all on the man-hate parade
2013-02-26T16:27:11  <Dagmar> Then we could laugh at the poor schlubs gullible enough to think they could attend without women giving them dirty looks for being a gentleman and opening a door
2013-02-26T16:27:41  <Dagmar> And what the fuck is with the trigger warning on that blog post
2013-02-26T16:27:54  <Dagmar> People that sensitive are probably having a real goddamn hard time on the internet
2013-02-26T16:27:58  <Dagmar> I get more graphic spams
2013-02-26T16:28:41  <Dagmar> If I wanna rub a new mATX case and say "Mmm... sexy lady" I'm going to
2013-02-26T16:29:09  <Dagmar> ...but I'm pretty sure it would be construed as harassment of women
2013-02-26T16:33:31  <peacebyfire> hmm, didn't even realize there was a meeting this friday
2013-02-26T16:33:34  <peacebyfire> yay
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2013-02-26T16:48:38  <Dagmar> First friday of the month
2013-02-26T16:48:53  <Dagmar> I should put a rent check in the mail tomorrow
2013-02-26T16:49:08  <jim_ec2> yay i get paid friday....hopefully
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2013-02-26T17:01:48  <wilpig> well that went well.  setting up another call to evaluate my technical abilities
2013-02-26T17:04:05  <Dagmar> If Niantic ever looks at my client history I'll know
2013-02-26T17:04:13  <Dagmar> I'll start seeing ads for AA in my gmail
2013-02-26T17:04:31  <wilpig> lol
2013-02-26T17:04:58  <Dagmar> The tablet just keeps doing this perpetual stagger, when it's not convinced it's in China or something
2013-02-26T17:05:12  <aestetix> wilpig: if you wanna come to the bay area tehre are plenty of places to evaluate :p
2013-02-26T17:07:35  <wilpig> aestetix: that's an option is this doesn't pan out
2013-02-26T17:08:01  <wilpig> I'm looking toward chicago right now but CA is on my list.  I'd love to be able to see my family out there more often
2013-02-26T17:08:37  <wilpig> now i'm going back to sleep. for a bit
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2013-02-26T18:13:47  <peacebyfire> I've got 17 minutes until I'm off work and I've got nothing to do.... driving me crazy
2013-02-26T18:22:41  <RangerZ> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130226/02401822113/obama-administration-decides-not-to-fight-against-fair-use-public-universities.shtml
2013-02-26T18:22:42  <GateKeeper> Title: Obama Administration Decides Not To Fight Against Fair Use For Public Universities | Techdirt (at www.techdirt.com)
2013-02-26T18:22:46  <RangerZ> good NEWS
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2013-02-26T18:47:56  <RangerZ> http://www.code.org/
2013-02-26T18:47:57  <GateKeeper> Title: Code.org | Dedicated to growing computer programming education (at www.code.org)
2013-02-26T18:48:18  <RangerZ> nice initiative and funny Video (bill gates tells a funny story)
2013-02-26T18:51:37  <NotLarry> Ok, was just reading some http://adainitiative.org/ and discovered that http://bsidessf.org are a bunch of sex crazed rapist barely held in check by the social stigma of being geeks.
2013-02-26T18:51:38  <GateKeeper> Title: The Ada Initiative | Supporting women in open technology and culture (at adainitiative.org)
2013-02-26T18:53:02  <NotLarry> I guess a public anouncement on behalf of the Phreaknic community thanking AI for that information and assuring the world at large that we here in the SE are simple folk who can hardly even talk to a girl...
2013-02-26T18:54:57  <RangerZ> huh...
2013-02-26T18:58:06  <wilpig> NotLarry: friday is the first friday again
2013-02-26T18:58:28  <wilpig> we still haven't announced a date, or secured the hotel.  I guess i'm gonna have to get all over jonnyx
2013-02-26T18:58:54  <RangerZ> wilpig: this friday is the meeting?
2013-02-26T18:59:14  <NotLarry> I know, taking time off.
2013-02-26T19:00:47  <NotLarry> Between the accident and the upcomming eviction I've not had a chance to go check with the hotel.  Have not hear anything about it so I assume jx has not been by there either.
2013-02-26T19:07:04  <wilpig> NotLarry: I know you've been busy
2013-02-26T19:07:26  <wilpig> I was just hoping that he'd have stepped up by now after all that talk of him wanting to get back into the mix of things
2013-02-26T19:13:33  <RangerZ> MFer.... "Downstream speeds up to 768 kbps" thats the best AT&T can give to my apartment
2013-02-26T19:13:49  <NotLarry> I actually drove past there on presidents day, but it was like 4 in the afternoon and I don't think I was in the mood to make nice.
2013-02-26T19:16:39  <aestetix> penis
2013-02-26T19:17:57  <NotLarry> aestetix: that is what I said.
2013-02-26T19:18:17  <NotLarry> aestetix: your from the SF area right?  WTF is with your guys out there?
2013-02-26T19:18:34  <aestetix> NotLarry: what?
2013-02-26T19:18:58  <RangerZ> the above link to some 'info se(x)c' con
2013-02-26T19:19:02  <aestetix> oh
2013-02-26T19:19:12  <aestetix> yeah uh
2013-02-26T19:19:24  <aestetix> I will simply say that the founder of Ada Initiative is Carolyn Meinel's daughter :)
2013-02-26T19:19:30  <RangerZ> did they hold it in the Armory with kink.com too?
2013-02-26T19:19:42  <RangerZ> lol
2013-02-26T19:19:47  <aestetix> haha
2013-02-26T19:19:55  <NotLarry> According to the Ada you belong to "a community known for sexual harassment and assault of women."  WTF dude, get a hold of yourselves...
2013-02-26T19:20:13  <aestetix> what, where does it say that
2013-02-26T19:20:29  <NotLarry> front page, ctl f it
2013-02-26T19:21:01  <aestetix> oh god
2013-02-26T19:21:22  <NotLarry> fucking video games kill people too.
2013-02-26T19:21:32  <NotLarry> well, that and ABBA
2013-02-26T19:21:58  <aestetix> yeah, the AI really needs to die
2013-02-26T19:22:15  <RangerZ> Dancing Queen only kills Newt Gingrich's wives
2013-02-26T19:22:23  <RangerZ> (well gives them cancer)
2013-02-26T19:25:17  <NotLarry> "We recommend that technical conferences adopt a strong anti-harassment policy and avoid sexual content in their program. It causes strong, upsetting emotions to many attendees"  Yeah, like the mass of 25+ year old men who have stalwartly maintained their sexual purity by never actually having had sex with a woman.
2013-02-26T19:25:21  <RangerZ> (very obscure reference that newt has dancing queen as his ring tone for his wife, and it showed up a couple times on the campaign trail)
2013-02-26T19:27:01  <RangerZ> I can't "really" find any fault with that statement
2013-02-26T19:33:02  <RangerZ> phreaknic might be like that, but i've been to several academic ( and semi academic, such as usenix) and there was NO sexual talks or issues like that that arose
2013-02-26T19:33:35  <RangerZ> so it really depends on the target audience
2013-02-26T19:39:44  <RangerZ> dragoncon's orgy rooms don't count... LOL
2013-02-26T19:44:18  <NotLarry> But Phreaknic is not a tech con
2013-02-26T19:47:02  <RangerZ> which is why i said it depends on the target audience
2013-02-26T19:55:13  <NotLarry> right, sorry.
2013-02-26T19:55:21  <NotLarry> Wasn't listening.  I'm working on that.
2013-02-26T19:55:45  <NotLarry> And my ADDHD kicked in, so I'm no on another topic.
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2013-02-26T20:43:27  <Dagmar> Jesus H christ
2013-02-26T20:43:41  <Dagmar> Some fuck deleted the megapost where I explained the game mechanics in detail!
2013-02-26T21:00:59  <RangerZ> lol
2013-02-26T21:02:15  <Dagmar> Okay, NOW I'm calling someone the fuck out.
2013-02-26T21:02:43  <Dagmar> Crap on a cracker that's insane
2013-02-26T21:03:06  <Dagmar> If I say a practice is bad, someone wants to act as if I called them a fucking moron.
2013-02-26T21:03:35  <Dagmar> If I dispute what someone says, and offer counter-arguments and an explanation, I get accused of being disrespectful.
2013-02-26T21:03:42  <Dagmar> Fucking madness!
2013-02-26T21:04:06  <Bahhumbug> Hi.  Welcome to the internet.
2013-02-26T21:04:11  <Dagmar> WTF *else* am I supposed to do inside my head when I'm walking around Nashville for four to five hours at a go?
2013-02-26T21:04:25  <Bahhumbug> Plot the downfall of humanity?
2013-02-26T21:04:26  <Dagmar> Of COURSE I've got some detailed opinions on the subject of how the game was designed
2013-02-26T21:04:48  <Dagmar> Bahhumbug: Umm... Yeah that's sociopathy and I don't particularly want to get locked up for it, man.
2013-02-26T21:04:55  <Bahhumbug> :)
2013-02-26T21:05:26  <Bahhumbug> Plotting within your head is fine; sharing those thoughts with others... not so much.
2013-02-26T21:11:27  <Dagmar> Plotting leads to doing.
2013-02-26T21:11:47  <Dagmar> Besides which, humanity is doing just a stellar job of fucking itself up.  It doesn't need my help.
2013-02-26T21:23:51  <Bahhumbug> There is that.
2013-02-26T21:25:55  <RangerZ> the CIA plotted about sending dagmar to iran, to become their newest rebel
2013-02-26T21:26:16  <RangerZ> but they decided that Thermonuclear War was a better option, less people would die
2013-02-26T21:34:51  <Dagmar> You're probably right
2013-02-26T21:35:08  <Dagmar> I could seriously get into the mass murder of a bunch of mysogynist rapist lunatics
2013-02-26T21:35:34  <Dagmar> I'm pretty sure they're not _all_ like that but it sure as hell seems like a clear trend in behaviour
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2013-02-26T22:46:24  <RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woCbjXyMul4
2013-02-26T22:46:25  <GateKeeper> Title: Jeopardy Category - Binders Full Of Women. - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
2013-02-26T22:46:33  <RangerZ> Jeopardy win, lol
2013-02-26T22:47:18  <NotLarry> so, opposed to what I was bitching about earlier, I think this might be important - http://www.pbs.org/makers/home/
2013-02-26T22:47:19  <GateKeeper> Title: MAKERS: Women Who Make America | PBS (at www.pbs.org)
2013-02-26T22:49:41  <NotLarry> Dagmar: Thanks for introducing me to that site.  Now I'm pissed again...
2013-02-26T22:49:57  <Dagmar> Hey man, you can't fix all the stupid people in the world
2013-02-26T22:50:07  <Dagmar> ...but you *can* watch with amusement as they crash and burn.
2013-02-26T22:50:33  <Dagmar> What that lady is doing is just a burning arc of self-immolation.
2013-02-26T22:53:20  <Dagmar> You should be happy you could get in on the ground floor of this incredible observational opportunity, man
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2013-02-26T22:54:15  <Dagmar> Plus you can tell unruly kids, "When you act like a mysogynist douche, you make these women seem less unreasonable.  If you want to make her mad, all you have to do is treat women decently."
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2013-02-26T22:56:50  <NotLarry> All the shit that has come down the pipe at me in the last fifty odd years, it seems I'm not blaming the right people.
2013-02-26T23:10:59  <Dagmar> You just need to simplify your life a bit, and get a better seat for the show
2013-02-26T23:11:35  <Dagmar> Case in point: The "six strikes" mechanism that went into effect this week
2013-02-26T23:11:53  <Dagmar> So... ISPs are going to spy on people's everythings and apparently try to make value judgements about it?
2013-02-26T23:12:07  <Dagmar> Interstingly, TOR is pretty easy to download.
2013-02-26T23:12:25  <wilpig> in your current position you are considered an isp
2013-02-26T23:12:59  <Dagmar> So, after word gets around, because word *will* get around because a lot of service providers are terrible about providing a consistent service as fast as advertised, folks are going to start _installing_ TOR.
2013-02-26T23:13:06  <Dagmar> Common, everyday folks.
2013-02-26T23:13:43  <Dagmar> So what are they going to argue when 30% or more of their egress and transit traffic is inscrutably encrypted?
2013-02-26T23:14:16  <Dagmar> They'll try arguing that encryption should be illegal, or that they should at the very least, automatically penalize anyone using encryption.
2013-02-26T23:14:34  <Dagmar> You can almost smell the shitstorm from here.
2013-02-26T23:14:55  <Dagmar> "It's gonna be BIG, man... Really, REALLY BIG!"
2013-02-26T23:15:38  <Dagmar> Cuz, you know... People shoudln't have privacy when it's against the interests of corporations.
2013-02-26T23:15:54  <Dagmar> Except that apparently corporations are people.  Oops.
2013-02-26T23:16:17  <Dagmar> Irresistable force, meet intractable internets.
2013-02-26T23:16:26  <Dagmar> Sooo many luls
2013-02-26T23:17:30  <NotLarry> What was the backdoor from the 90's that the government wanted to put in everything?  I forget now but the argument for it was that it would not be missused, and it would be kept safe.  Much like Sony customer data?
2013-02-26T23:18:06  <Dagmar> Echelon maybe?  There were so many plans of that sort...
2013-02-26T23:20:19  <RangerZ> "warrantless wiretap"
2013-02-26T23:20:58  <RangerZ> with retroactive immunity for big backers of congressional campaigns
2013-02-26T23:34:09  <eryc> it was the vagina chip
2013-02-26T23:40:38  <RangerZ> "its in the constitution: Ohio and FL get to choose the next president" lol
2013-02-26T23:41:06  <RangerZ> colbert's writers are very good, lol
2013-02-26T23:44:19  <Dagmar> hehe
2013-02-26T23:49:10  <RangerZ> last oct. there was a reporter who counted the commercials during the 6 o'clock news in columbus ohio, and 62 out of 62 commercials were political ads (and wtf... 62 ads in an hour during the NEWS....)
2013-02-26T23:49:34  <Bahhumbug> news doesn't make money, ads do.