2013-02-23T00:00:14  <Dagmar> I see nothing wrong.
2013-02-23T00:00:57  <wilpig> i'm leaving it
2013-02-23T00:01:08  <wilpig> it's a warning / remove child devices from chassis
2013-02-23T00:02:00  <Dagmar> I would've thought it was a public service, actually
2013-02-23T00:08:06  <Dagmar> Oh this is too funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrVC5dm5fFc
2013-02-23T00:08:07  <GateKeeper> Title: Nicky Romero - Toulouse - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
2013-02-23T00:08:39  <Dagmar> Seriously.
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2013-02-23T01:49:49  <wilpig> how long til dolemite catches this?  https://github.com/samilliken/openDCIM/blob/22e90af9c10429c24baec665aadd9bfa7c9dfbd8/devices.php#L199
2013-02-23T01:49:50  <GateKeeper> Title: openDCIM/devices.php at 22e90af9c10429c24baec665aadd9bfa7c9dfbd8 · samilliken/openDCIM · GitHub (at github.com)
2013-02-23T04:19:08  <Dagmar> He should care about "killthechildren"?
2013-02-23T04:19:19  <Dagmar> I mean, you gotta name the damn thing something.
2013-02-23T04:19:45  <Dagmar> trigger%3748 might be politically correct, but it's not going to be easy to debug
2013-02-23T04:20:38  <Dagmar> At least it's not a GET operation
2013-02-23T04:21:27  <wilpig> heh.  I could make it a get
2013-02-23T04:21:33  <Dagmar> Jesus no
2013-02-23T04:21:34  <wilpig> just to add confusion
2013-02-23T04:21:45  <Dagmar> That *definitely* changes the state of something in the server.
2013-02-23T04:21:52  <Dagmar> A GET request would be utterly wrong.
2013-02-23T04:22:05  <wilpig> a get request would get logged
2013-02-23T04:22:34  <Dagmar> _idempotence_
2013-02-23T04:22:50  <Dagmar> You do remember me talking about this in conjunction with MythTV, right?
2013-02-23T04:22:57  <wilpig> nope
2013-02-23T04:23:07  <wilpig> musta drank that set of braincells away
2013-02-23T04:23:15  <Dagmar> What happens when you allow something that uses GETs for non-idempotant things...
2013-02-23T04:23:36  <Dagmar> So idempotence is basically something you can do over and over and get the same result
2013-02-23T04:23:56  <Dagmar> With respect to HTTP it means the query should _never_ affect the state of data on the server.
2013-02-23T04:24:06  <Dagmar> It must explicitly be basically a read-only operation.
2013-02-23T04:24:11  <Dagmar> Search engines know this.
2013-02-23T04:24:19  <Dagmar> They will follow any GET link because it is _safe_.
2013-02-23T04:24:31  <wilpig> heh
2013-02-23T04:24:52  <Dagmar> There's never a button marked "DELETE ALL MY SHITS" that funnels through to a GET operation because that's clearly going to change the state of things.
2013-02-23T04:24:52  <wilpig> that woudl be amusing to see
2013-02-23T04:25:04  <Dagmar> ...unless your'e a MythTV developer and ignore this
2013-02-23T04:25:13  <Dagmar> ALl of the MythTV web interface pretty much used GETS
2013-02-23T04:25:21  <wilpig> that delete all teh shit function is below the "is this user allowed to do anything" check
2013-02-23T04:25:34  <Dagmar> ...and the moment you mention a URL to it somewhere where Google might see it, your shit is going to get *raped*
2013-02-23T04:25:50  <wilpig> that's quite comical
2013-02-23T04:25:52  <Dagmar> ...because Google would merrily spider every link in the MythTV web interface.
2013-02-23T04:26:31  <Dagmar> So... it'll rather aggressively and in a very short span of time delete most of your channels from the lineups, erase most of your recordings, shedule a whole bunch of shit to record at random, etc etc
2013-02-23T04:27:00  <Dagmar> If you made that killthechildren function into a GET request the GSAs would sodomize the entire DC inventory with a horrifying efficiency
2013-02-23T04:27:19  <wilpig> nah.  but it would be comical all the same
2013-02-23T04:27:53  <Dagmar> well, sort of
2013-02-23T04:28:21  <Dagmar> If I weren't responsible for the data I'd probably find it pretty hilarious
2013-02-23T04:28:35  <Dagmar> I deliberately exposed my Myth installation to Google after backing everything up
2013-02-23T04:28:36  <wilpig> see line 196 it would stop a google raping
2013-02-23T04:28:39  <Dagmar> 22 minutes.
2013-02-23T04:28:45  <Dagmar> It fucked my config beyond belief
2013-02-23T04:29:25  <wilpig>  if($user->WriteAccess&&(($dev->DeviceID >0)&&($_POST['action']=='Update'))){
2013-02-23T04:29:33  <wilpig> no write access, no soup for you
2013-02-23T04:29:34  <Dagmar> wilpig: yes this is assuming you're always checking every possible entrypoint for privs
2013-02-23T04:29:47  <Dagmar> Google would FIND the one place you didn't and go to town on it
2013-02-23T04:30:13  <wilpig> after brimstone had it at one day I went through and added rights checking everywhere.  it's part of the template now
2013-02-23T04:30:51  <wilpig> and that reminds me...
2013-02-23T04:30:56  <wilpig> mog mog mog mog mog mog mog mog mog mog
2013-02-23T04:31:06  <Dagmar> huh?
2013-02-23T04:31:15  <wilpig> mog?
2013-02-23T04:31:25  <Dagmar> Oh, by the way, Anthem across the street from 12th and Porter?
2013-02-23T04:31:30  <Dagmar> A fucking nightmare
2013-02-23T04:31:35  <Dagmar> Yuppies.
2013-02-23T04:31:41  <wilpig> making his client make noise and make him wonder who said his name
2013-02-23T04:31:42  <wilpig> mog
2013-02-23T04:31:55  <Dagmar> Literally nothing but a bunch of yuppies trying to be at a cool dance club
2013-02-23T04:31:57  <wilpig> don't look at the campus map right now.  hehe
2013-02-23T04:32:02  <Dagmar> Almost no dancing
2013-02-23T04:32:06  <wilpig> I did bad things linking tonight.  but got to level 7
2013-02-23T04:32:44  <Dagmar> That Mayborn portal needs to be wiped out anyway
2013-02-23T04:32:48  <wilpig> yes it does
2013-02-23T04:32:54  <wilpig> which is why I didn't even upgrade it
2013-02-23T04:33:02  <Dagmar> I couldnt' bear to waste more than two resos on it because they're all like five fucking inches from the goddamn portal
2013-02-23T04:33:26  <wilpig> I had put resonators right on top of it the other night cause they were outside and I stopped them from snatching it but had no choice on where I was standing
2013-02-23T04:33:37  <Dagmar> The blues are *clearly* trying to make use of zipcar loots
2013-02-23T04:34:03  <Dagmar> I walked out of the office this morning at 10:30 to have a smoke and picked up three keys still lying next to blue portals.
2013-02-23T04:34:16  <Dagmar> So... they're _still_ not really learning anything
2013-02-23T04:35:11  <Dagmar> it remains to be seen yet whether or not they've actualyl realized we'll fuck their tight little bottoms for touching BiCen
2013-02-23T04:35:18  <wilpig> I should drive back to the "governors mansion" and make the link to the law library really quick and snag two more fields
2013-02-23T04:36:14  <Dagmar> tomorrow people will probably upgrade it all to L7's
2013-02-23T04:36:34  <Dagmar> Maybe the smurfs will realize if they touch it I'll take away their cemetery again, maybe not
2013-02-23T04:37:03  <Dagmar> At least I didn't have to worry about injuring my foot tonight
2013-02-23T04:37:07  <Dagmar> I danced for about 10 minutes
2013-02-23T04:37:33  <wilpig> does the cemetery have any fields now?  cause I have a crapload of lvl7 bursters at my disposal again
2013-02-23T04:37:36  <Dagmar> I just do not understand how there can be an entire dance club full of people not dancing
2013-02-23T04:38:00  <Dagmar> wilpig: No fields, but it does have a bunch of L7 portals they've worked very hard on
2013-02-23T04:38:28  <wilpig> lvl7 is worth me going by to hack int he morning at least
2013-02-23T04:38:29  <Dagmar> ...and they clearly haven't really come to grips with the fact that the entire playfield pretty much always indefensible
2013-02-23T04:39:09  <Dagmar> They would shit bricks if they knew it took me less than 30 bursters to wipe the place out before
2013-02-23T04:41:06  <Dagmar> I maybe fired off a dozen L4's just to lazily blast out the last remaining resonators, because I have over 400 of the damn things
2013-02-23T04:41:23  <Dagmar> I have trouble even caring about those, let alone counting them
2013-02-23T04:41:31  <Dagmar> L7's hit motherfucking everything
2013-02-23T04:42:34  <Dagmar> If you wanted to drive bandy nuts you'd fire off a few of those at HSV
2013-02-23T04:42:53  <wilpig> hsv?
2013-02-23T04:43:09  <Dagmar> He's keeping to himself and doing upkeep is the reason I've been leaving him alone
2013-02-23T04:43:28  <Dagmar> Yeah it's right smack in the middle of that side of campus next to Buttrick Hall
2013-02-23T04:44:09  <wilpig> oh gotcha.  he's not been keeping to himself.  it was him, jubil and pwnicholson that ripped up all of campus tuesday night
2013-02-23T04:44:31  <Dagmar> Yes, but they can't *keep* it
2013-02-23T04:44:44  <wilpig> nah.  I know which portal messes with him now too
2013-02-23T04:44:59  <Dagmar> The only way anyone can *keep* anything is if literally no one else cares enough to go blow it up
2013-02-23T04:45:08  <wilpig> the library, obviously, since he works there but there is a church out off of nolensville that he considers home
2013-02-23T04:45:35  <wilpig> the other night I lured him out of his house twice on accident thinking I was messing with jubil
2013-02-23T04:45:40  <Dagmar> hehe
2013-02-23T04:46:03  <wilpig> mirage told me about this japanese place down there called "midori" so I was headed down there for dinner
2013-02-23T04:46:08  <Dagmar> Ah
2013-02-23T04:46:42  <Dagmar> Heh.  Downtown is like a smoking ruin now
2013-02-23T04:47:02  <Dagmar> I'm going to unload LOTS of resonators this weekend
2013-02-23T04:47:04  <wilpig> so driving from my apt to there I saw this newish portal and I stopped and dropped 40 or so lvl3 resos to weaken them all and blow up one reso
2013-02-23T04:47:15  <wilpig> I then went to dinner
2013-02-23T04:47:26  <wilpig> on the way back I saw that bitch was full power again.  odd...
2013-02-23T04:47:36  <Dagmar> I prefer to double the XM tax for a day or two and see if they notice
2013-02-23T04:47:43  <wilpig> so I unloaded another 50 lvl3s and laughed as two resos went down and the rest were near death
2013-02-23T04:48:10  <wilpig> a few minutes later I got a message via G+ asking if I was still around and if I wanted to go get a drink.
2013-02-23T04:49:43  <Dagmar> I have like 100k to go to get L8
2013-02-23T04:50:07  <Dagmar> I'm sort of tempted to dump all my extra keys at the house and just see how many of what I carry I can link into fields
2013-02-23T04:50:51  <Dagmar> I don't want to reduce my collection of keys tho.  It's super-handy
2013-02-23T04:51:05  <Dagmar> I've got practically every other portal downtown
2013-02-23T04:51:43  <Dagmar> It means I don't have to futz with the lazy susan much, I just have to find one that's _close_ to the right area and then skip over to whatever I need to recharge
2013-02-23T04:52:40  <Dagmar> I begin to suspect the frequency of key drops is a deliberately uneven distribution
2013-02-23T04:53:37  <Dagmar> There's some portals I see never getting charged unless someone physically goes to them and does it, and I'm not getting keys for them either
2013-02-23T04:53:56  <Dagmar> Trying to figure out a good way to exploit that
2013-02-23T04:54:04  <Dagmar> Best I can come up with so far is "let the blues have them"
2013-02-23T04:54:28  <Dagmar> ...because if no one's getting keys for them, or if the keys for those _specifically_ are very rare, they can be knocked over pretty regularly
2013-02-23T04:56:51  <Dagmar> It would mean the blues getting their stuff overwhelmingly stomped again for no reason they stand a chance of figuring out
2013-02-23T05:10:31  <wilpig> ugh... I hate these damn RP quests in the jade forrest
2013-02-23T05:11:21  <Dagmar> I'm wondering when we'll put in the third jade mural thingy
2013-02-23T05:11:33  <Dagmar> Seems like some shit got left out over there or something
2013-02-23T05:11:51  <wilpig> you didn't put up all three parts?
2013-02-23T05:11:56  <Dagmar> Nope
2013-02-23T05:12:03  <wilpig> you missed somethign then
2013-02-23T05:12:07  <Dagmar> They're still just standing there talking about how cool it will be
2013-02-23T05:12:32  <Dagmar> I'm still kind of in a "fuck you people" mood over the dragon racing thing
2013-02-23T05:14:32  <Dagmar> Also, for great luls take a normal non-combat pet and name it "Wanderer".
2013-02-23T05:14:42  <Dagmar> Proceed to the Wanderer's Festival on Sunday
2013-02-23T05:14:53  <wilpig> lol
2013-02-23T05:15:02  <wilpig> I have the turtle but I can see that being funny
2013-02-23T05:15:11  <Dagmar> Everyone's find-the-turtle macro will fixate on your pet.  :)
2013-02-23T05:16:13  <Dagmar> It's hilarious.  Did it last weekend
2013-02-23T05:16:36  <Dagmar> Half a dozen people going "Did pet battles just break?"
2013-02-23T05:16:37  <wilpig> http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/malganis/Evilpig/achievement#15117
2013-02-23T05:16:38  <GateKeeper> Title: Achievements - Community - World of Warcraft (at us.battle.net)
2013-02-23T05:16:43  <Dagmar> Nevermind that they've targeted a fucking squirrel
2013-02-23T05:17:30  <wilpig> the pandaren earth spirit stomped me a new butthole
2013-02-23T05:17:38  <Dagmar> Hmm... I gotta figure out how far I am from 400 points
2013-02-23T05:17:47  <Dagmar> Those battles are kinda lame
2013-02-23T05:17:51  <wilpig> I got a hat!
2013-02-23T05:18:00  <wilpig> +10% to pet experience or something
2013-02-23T05:18:01  <Dagmar> Oh hell I need to check my mailbox
2013-02-23T05:18:03  <wilpig> all of my toons got one
2013-02-23T05:18:05  <Dagmar> I forgot to pick up my hat
2013-02-23T05:18:35  <Dagmar> The pinnacle Pandaria battles are too heavily stacked against the player
2013-02-23T05:19:56  <Dagmar> Skyrim Dragonborn expansion has a handy perk in it
2013-02-23T05:20:00  <wilpig> I thought they were all easy with the exception of earth
2013-02-23T05:20:06  <Dagmar> No more friendly fire
2013-02-23T05:20:23  <Dagmar> So... no more inadvertently launching the overzealous companion into space with a shout
2013-02-23T05:21:50  <Dagmar> I have to go murder like a million bandits now so I can get two more levels to get the Ebony blacksmithing skill
2013-02-23T05:21:54  <Dagmar> ...or maybe respec
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2013-02-23T19:12:03  <Dagmar> http://www.bitoffun.com/video_vault/white-only-humor.htm
2013-02-23T19:12:04  <GateKeeper> Title: Whites Only Laundry (at www.bitoffun.com)
2013-02-23T19:12:16  <Dagmar> Too hilarious
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2013-02-23T19:19:54  <RangerZ> wow...
2013-02-23T19:19:55  <RangerZ> just wow
2013-02-23T19:21:48  <Dagmar> We have found a cure for Harlem Shake https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151433257554411
2013-02-23T19:21:50  <GateKeeper> Title: Comments (at www.facebook.com)
2013-02-23T20:02:44  <sdodson> Dagmar: you racist. http://changefromwithin.org/2013/02/21/racism-appropriation-and-the-harlem-shake/
2013-02-23T20:02:45  <GateKeeper> Title: Racism, Appropriation, and The Harlem Shake | Change From Within (at changefromwithin.org)
2013-02-23T20:07:34  <wilpig> http://www.explosm.net/comics/3090/  lol
2013-02-23T20:07:35  <GateKeeper> Title: Cyanide & Happiness #3090 - Explosm.net (at www.explosm.net)
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2013-02-23T20:34:03  <oddball_> *sigh*
2013-02-23T20:34:12  <wilpig> ?
2013-02-23T20:34:45  <oddball_> Apparently my IP address at home changed and my router is failing to update with DynDNS>
2013-02-23T20:34:56  <oddball_> (I'm currently in Detroit)
2013-02-23T20:35:03  <wilpig> that stinks.
2013-02-23T20:35:24  <wilpig> anyone with a key local? or not that important?
2013-02-23T20:35:29  <oddball_> And it looks like Comcast masks their IP addy's, so I can't simply whois myself and grab the IP address that way.
2013-02-23T20:35:46  <wilpig> whatismyip.com ?
2013-02-23T20:35:52  <wilpig> wget it
2013-02-23T20:37:52  <oddball_> Yeah, Wizard has the key and is feeding my cats.  I've asked him to check next time he stops by.
2013-02-23T20:38:14  <wilpig> annoying as that is at least there is someone that can check it
2013-02-23T20:38:17  <oddball_> whatismyip.com won't help if I can't log into my systems at home. :/
2013-02-23T20:39:17  <oddball_> Yeah.  Fortunately, the only thing I remote in for on a regular basis is IRC... which I can obviously do by other means.
2013-02-23T20:39:21  <wilpig> wait... oddball is you at home and connected?
2013-02-23T20:39:34  <oddball_> Speaking of which... better plug my phone in that's giving me the intratubes.
2013-02-23T20:39:40  <oddball_> wilpig: yep
2013-02-23T20:40:38  <wilpig> I got a prompt.  ;)
2013-02-23T20:41:42  <oddball> huh.   Looked it up on Freenode, and it masked it.  Weird.
2013-02-23T20:41:47  <wilpig> I take your silence to mean you got in too?
2013-02-23T20:41:57  <wilpig> good deal
2013-02-23T20:42:30  <oddball> Now to fix DynDNS
2013-02-23T20:45:23  <wilpig> done my good deed for the day.  now to go kick a puppy
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2013-02-23T20:48:03  <oddball> yay!
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