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2013-02-14T10:23:39 I sure as fuck have no interest in doing the position as ITS views it, nor should I have ever been asked. 2013-02-14T10:23:51 They demoted you? 2013-02-14T10:24:12 There is no other deduction that can be made from this data. 2013-02-14T10:24:41 They're about to be down to _zero_ actual functional administrators. 2013-02-14T10:25:01 Mirage is taking a wholly different type of position back in EAI to get out of this mess. 2013-02-14T10:25:13 ...and I'm sure they're telling themselves he's just being hotheaded or something. 2013-02-14T10:25:24 So... when a service request comes in, this is what I get to do now... 2013-02-14T10:26:33 I have to go to Sean, apparently to find out _what_ to do, and if he approves it, then I have to go to Hogan (and in practice, Peter, because Hogan doesn't bother to actually approve proposed changes) to get permission to do it, and then I generally have to do whatever it was at 11pm at night. 2013-02-14T10:26:48 So basically, I'm just a fucking keyboard monkey now. 2013-02-14T10:26:54 Not only no, but _hell no_. 2013-02-14T10:27:09 It is irresponsible and derelict of function for them to have let this situation come about in the first place 2013-02-14T10:27:32 Particularly when it involves people with well over a decade's experience doing this, being put under people with _far less_ experience. 2013-02-14T10:28:29 I've been getting about 2/3 industry standard pay for this for awhile, and at least under EAI they were not only aware there was a problem, but they were actively trying to _do_ something about it. 2013-02-14T10:28:57 The thing that beefs me the most is that this _trashes_ our service level with the customers, who are the Vanderbilt community 2013-02-14T10:29:13 I have no hope of getting even a _trivial_ service request done in less than a day. 2013-02-14T10:29:24 ...that includes shit like simple URL redirection. 2013-02-14T10:29:34 To be Honest, I never understood why you guys hung around after Dolemite left. The new bosses seemed to not understand how thing should run 2013-02-14T10:29:42 Clearly, they do not. 2013-02-14T10:29:55 ...and they're about to have no one running their core stuff anymore. 2013-02-14T10:30:20 I have been on a two-week on-call rotation for basically, forever. 2013-02-14T10:30:41 Hogan just doesn't have a clue what he's doing. 2013-02-14T10:31:01 so are you looking elsewhere? 2013-02-14T10:31:10 Fuck yes. 2013-02-14T10:31:24 at some point you have to accept that the place won't get better and the best change you can make is getting out 2013-02-14T10:31:30 If I find a place in Nashville that needs a Linux admin with experience and a working brain, I'm out of there 2013-02-14T10:32:11 ...and they will have no one suitable for maintaining the sendmail servers that route all the mail, nor the Apache servers that host all the web content, nor the nameservers that do all the DNS. 2013-02-14T10:33:49 To give you just one example, about a year and a half ago there was a major problem with AD authentication which was identified as being a DNS problem 2013-02-14T10:34:35 I wound up on a conference call with my current boss (who was not my boss then), his boss (who was my bosses boss) and several other managers, _none_ of whom can be said to have a proper understanding of DNS 2013-02-14T10:35:31 For an hour and a half they tried to diagnose the problem by asking us questions about things, having us dig around in systems to find the answers, _and then ignoring_ what we told them because they'd moved onto a different possibility 2013-02-14T10:35:45 <-- this is still the motherfucker who found the cause of the problem. 2013-02-14T10:36:26 They jumped all over Mirage's shit because he made an "unmanaged change" trying to fix it, and at one point tried to blame the actual problem on him. 2013-02-14T10:37:19 His "unmanaged change" was to make a step towards having DNS operate _correctly_ to try to fix the problem, because we absolutely _could not_ see what the problem was with the state things were currently in. 2013-02-14T10:38:09 *** Catonic_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2013-02-14T10:38:13 ...which was in the state it was because they'd manage to set things up incorrectly--counter to what we were telling them--in the first place. 2013-02-14T10:39:18 Once things were in _that_ state, it was actually possible to see what was going on, which was that OpenDNS was being allowed to handle queries for hosts trying to do AD authentication and licencing stuff over DNS, which involved internal-only lookups which OpenDNS _could never resolve correctly_ 2013-02-14T10:40:04 I was having to go through basically "cooked" zone files in each of five servers to see what queries were supposed to be returning as 2013-02-14T10:40:19 i.e., zone files that had been AXFR'd into the other nameservers. 2013-02-14T10:40:58 They kept assuming because it takes about ten to fifteen minutes to do that _every goddamn time_ that we didn't know the answers, and so they'd move on to some other theory, unfettered by actual evidence. 2013-02-14T10:41:46 If I can't actually utilize my own experience and skill, and have to report to someone else before I can even report to my manager, _that_ is a pretty serious demotion. 2013-02-14T10:42:56 In the last year under EAI (a different group with a far more reasonable set of policies that expects they've hired competent administratrors to actually administer systems) we have made hundreds of "changes" right in the middle of the freaking day, with exactly zero downtime. 2013-02-14T10:43:34 This is far cry from the Windows side of the house, who had a guy keep breaking the Exchange servers in the middle of the day because he _isn't_ a skilled administrator 2013-02-14T10:43:52 Their response to that was literally to dumb down the entire operational mechanism 2013-02-14T10:44:10 ...instead of just demoting that guy, let alone firing him for incompetence. 2013-02-14T10:45:01 HOgan's trying to make decisions based on a handful of questions he doesn't particularly understand the answers to, for systems he doesn't understand how they work. 2013-02-14T10:45:23 ...and he is apparently unwilling to just shut the hell up and let us explain to him how the damn things work and what the risk factors actually are. 2013-02-14T10:45:42 If this place were a dot-com, it would have approximately three months or less left to live. 2013-02-14T10:49:58 I'd lean more toward the "less" 2013-02-14T10:50:17 I'm not sayin' you're wrong. 2013-02-14T10:50:43 We've got a group that's using subdomains to have simple URLs to put on flyers for events. 2013-02-14T10:51:16 That's set up as a freaking apache _map file_ now, because it's not getting zillions of hits, and it's virtually impossible to break apache when changing them 2013-02-14T10:51:28 THat actually has to be done at 11pm now 2013-02-14T10:51:56 From what I've heard from you, Mirage, and Wilpig, the place has definitely gone to the dogs. It makes me sad to see how badly it has deteriorated after all of the effort I put into making change management work well for the University. 2013-02-14T10:52:03 I told Hogan directly yesterday that we could actually paste raw JPEG data into that file, and Apache would simply ignore those parts because they didnt' match the hostname. 2013-02-14T10:52:43 Dolemite: Now they're using change management as a mechanism for managers to chime in on everything so that it looks like they're doing something useful. 2013-02-14T10:53:16 Sean kept trying to interject that changing a map file changes the way apache behaves, so it's something we shoudln't do during buisness hours. 2013-02-14T10:53:37 I say silly shit like this should be operational because _it was designed to be that way_ 2013-02-14T10:53:45 When Matt was there, he was sliding the operations more toward a business. Now that he's gone, it has QUICKLY slid back to the mentality of academics. 2013-02-14T10:54:09 They don't have a concept of the difference between business critical things, mission critical things, or even the difference between internal-facing services and public-facing services. 2013-02-14T10:54:18 It's all about making sure that people with no clue have a say in things that really don't affect them, but it would hurt their feelings to leave them out. 2013-02-14T10:54:33 It's the same shit as when people were allowed to declare all their stuff super-critical so everything in the datacenter wound up with red labels. 2013-02-14T10:55:21 The help desk has to apparently file changes to create directories for people now. 2013-02-14T10:55:40 Managerial-approval changes 2013-02-14T10:55:41 heh. Yeah, Kevin and I used to push back on that all of the time. 2013-02-14T10:56:01 The red labels, that is. We made most of them yellow. 2013-02-14T10:56:08 I sent an email to Hogan with a list of four changes yesterday asking for approval. 2013-02-14T10:57:27 He contradicted what he's said in the meeting the day before about having people file changes to even deploy new monitors, told me two of them were operational (and half of one actually wasn't), one was being postponed (I dont' care, it's a decommissioning for an obsolete system) and that the other needed approval from Sean first. 2013-02-14T10:57:45 Told me Peter could approve two of them, and _didn't actually approve any of them_ 2013-02-14T10:58:07 So he's basically delegating the responsibility for simple shit over at the data center manager. 2013-02-14T10:59:38 Literally the only useful thing I could do yesterday was to dig around looking for best practice documents and try to assemble a set of criteria for breaking down activities by category so that rational determinations could be made about whether or not something has any impact or risk... 2013-02-14T11:00:05 ...which is strictly a management-space problem that they have apparently been entirely derelict in addressing. 2013-02-14T11:01:12 So yeah, tomorrow I'll be going to Bari to talk about this entirely useless demotion. 2013-02-14T11:01:22 Good luck 2013-02-14T11:01:34 I will not have the blame for this bullshit dumped on me. Period. 2013-02-14T11:02:26 ...because for the last year under Chad in EAI, we've literally gotten every little service request handed to us done in the same day, if not within a few hours of seeing it. 2013-02-14T11:02:29 *** x86Daddy has joined #se2600 2013-02-14T11:03:20 Hell, something in the Exchange servers is actually rejecting mail from the SMTP servers for certain people, and due to the _way_ it's rejecting the mails tanks everything in the queue for that queuerunner over to the next polling interval. 2013-02-14T11:04:46 This got sent to me in EAI as a ticket blaming the SMTP servers back in _November_ which took me about two days to completely ferret out what was going on and set up some monitors (which would now require managerial-approval changes *with* a VCAB visit so no one's left out) to show how often this is happening. 2013-02-14T11:05:11 ...and I told the exchange admin in question what it was and what he needed to look for, and apparently absolutely nothing has happened on his end. 2013-02-14T11:05:21 We can't refactor around it. 2013-02-14T11:05:42 The person complaining was upset because they had a mail take over four hours to deliver. 2013-02-14T11:06:26 The Exchange admin needs to dig around in the logs and determine _why_ their server is hanging up on the Sendmail boxes. 2013-02-14T11:07:36 As far as I know, It's either deciding there's too much mail coming to that user, or that they're blocked from recieving mail, but I have zero visibility into it so I can't do anything about it 2013-02-14T11:08:08 Literally it gets the mail from: and rcpt to: envelope and then just _hangs up_ on the connection 2013-02-14T11:08:49 The only way I could mitigate the effect that has on the queuerunner would be to reconfigure sendmail so that it sends one mail per queuerunner instance, and basically _one mail per connection_ 2013-02-14T11:09:47 Being that this generates over 1,000 connections _already_ every five minutes during most of the day, that configuration would likely murder both the Exchange servers and possibly the LTMs as well 2013-02-14T11:10:29 Yes, they're using LTMs to distribute mail connections among the Exchange instances instead of just using fucking MX records internally. 2013-02-14T11:10:48 I don't even have a way to see which server is getting the connection on the other end 2013-02-14T11:18:45 *** sasquatc4 has joined #se2600 2013-02-14T11:18:45 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o sasquatc4 2013-02-14T11:27:13 *** phaile has joined #se2600 2013-02-14T11:27:43 Mornin, se2600. 2013-02-14T11:28:23 I have a mac noob question. who in here is a mac person? 2013-02-14T11:28:40 ... and willing to admit it! out with ye! 2013-02-14T11:29:07 i just need to know if an osx will print in safe mode or not. 2013-02-14T11:29:07 hehe 2013-02-14T11:29:21 fuck if I know. TYAS? 2013-02-14T11:29:30 and print to what? 2013-02-14T11:29:44 some shitty local deskjet on usb. 2013-02-14T11:29:51 local printer? network one? THE CLOUD OF AWESOMENESS THAT IS MY JOY AT EXISTING RIGHT NOW?! 2013-02-14T11:30:19 safe mode? 2013-02-14T11:30:22 mm. that'd prolly be a TYAS, and if nothing else, see if you could bring up the service manually if not. 2013-02-14T11:30:39 brimstone: I'm assuming they mean a diagnostic mode of some sort, I'm no mac person XD 2013-02-14T11:30:50 os x has a safe mode? 2013-02-14T11:31:02 yeah, you hold down shift from the tone until you see the gear. 2013-02-14T11:31:06 frutitarians can go jump off of a bridge. with a parachute. that sorta works. Most of the time. 2013-02-14T11:31:11 i thought you could either look at pinterest or it routed you to the nearest geek bar 2013-02-14T11:31:17 genius bar? 2013-02-14T11:31:18 i'm trying to help a guy with a f0x0r3d video card but the box works in safe 2013-02-14T11:31:45 the video card is fucked, but they want to print? Heh, interesting priorities. 2013-02-14T11:32:00 phaile: does the printer show up in the settings panel? 2013-02-14T11:32:02 polerin: they need to print directions to the genius bar 2013-02-14T11:32:51 aaaaaaaaaaaaah 2013-02-14T11:32:57 yes 2013-02-14T11:33:12 phaile: can you get into that printer and send a test page? :P 2013-02-14T11:33:14 the printer even WILL print a test page from the safemoded computer 2013-02-14T11:33:24 wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwell that would be a useful bit of info 2013-02-14T11:33:31 CONTEXT IS KING 2013-02-14T11:33:43 and coffee is queen. Need more of it in fact. 2013-02-14T11:33:53 ;D 2013-02-14T11:33:57 me too. 2013-02-14T11:34:19 when you BROWSE for new printer, no you don't see one. 2013-02-14T11:34:39 i don't know if i'm just looking at some entry or wot. 2013-02-14T11:36:42 wait 2013-02-14T11:36:48 it shows in the settings but you don't see one where? 2013-02-14T11:36:54 if you see it, why are you adding a new one? 2013-02-14T11:37:04 more context! I demand it! 2013-02-14T11:37:27 i'm not, there's an even bigger noob at the wheel than me- my role is offsite. 2013-02-14T11:37:51 pht whatever. at least they aren't asking a customer where the enter key is 2013-02-14T11:38:01 and yes. I've had that happen with me on the phone. 2013-02-14T11:38:36 another thing it did to this dude was say there was a new driver, and try to get it- no idea wtf, but i don't want to take the machine back to work on if it's beating a dead horse. 2013-02-14T11:38:59 "okay? click okay?" 2013-02-14T11:39:02 lol 2013-02-14T11:39:04 YES 2013-02-14T11:41:02 *** RangerZ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-02-14T11:41:29 (i feel your pain on phone support. i've had em call me on the phone baffled when a computer was OFF, just off.) 2013-02-14T11:41:46 Don't. set up. a ticket. based on a flawed spec. then bounce back to me with a grumpy note when the spec is broken. 2013-02-14T11:41:50 uuugh. 2013-02-14T11:42:26 yeah but this was a tech who was at a customer's house. 2013-02-14T11:42:30 what the hell 2013-02-14T11:42:46 hit the button. if it's not the enter button, delete the character and hit another one. rinse and repeat. 2013-02-14T11:42:58 I used to have a wall of shame 2013-02-14T11:44:01 * phaile goes fer a cup. 2013-02-14T11:44:24 ./phpunit 2013-02-14T11:44:25 er 2013-02-14T11:44:26 fuck 2013-02-14T11:52:13 F*CK YES 2013-02-14T11:52:26 Beats Antique is actually coming to Nashville on April 25th 2013-02-14T11:57:50 cost? 2013-02-14T11:58:25 YOUR SOOooOooOooUUUUUullll 2013-02-14T11:58:41 holy shit who let me chugg 4 cups of coffee 2013-02-14T11:58:52 America 2013-02-14T11:58:55 Also, on a related note, I'm out of coffee, need another cup. 2013-02-14T11:59:00 AMURKA 2013-02-14T11:59:17 LOL! Are you having tremors? 2013-02-14T11:59:36 There's a lady in here who gets keyed up on coffee and starts shaking. 2013-02-14T12:00:13 not yet. 2013-02-14T12:00:14 thats what happens to my girlfriend with only a half cup 2013-02-14T12:00:27 most of the time it takes about 6 cups in an hour to get me to that level 2013-02-14T12:00:32 it sucks as I go through a whole french press every morning 2013-02-14T12:00:34 but I'm at the double leg shake RLS level 2013-02-14T12:00:36 Busted: http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/most-peculiar-test-drive 2013-02-14T12:00:37 Title: A Most Peculiar Test Drive | Blog | Tesla Motors (at www.teslamotors.com) 2013-02-14T12:01:28 I normally only do about 3 cups a morning, then switch to decaff after 12 2013-02-14T12:01:51 but because I'm in an epic fucking mood I am in full on caffiene consumption mode 2013-02-14T12:02:20 i do like 4-6 pints but at 5 I switch to pint-pints. 2013-02-14T12:04:55 oh hai polerin 2013-02-14T12:05:06 OH HAI HOW YOU DOIN WITH THE STUFF AND SHIT 2013-02-14T12:05:34 EJACULATINGLY WELL 2013-02-14T12:07:40 O_o 2013-02-14T12:07:48 * polerin backs away and puts on the biohazard suit 2013-02-14T12:08:21 dood. I made a fucking a-team roster. Granted it's a pre-season-trial-to-see-how-I-do roster 2013-02-14T12:08:24 but holy shit 2013-02-14T12:08:37 and last night I only skated all-star lineups 2013-02-14T12:08:53 aestetix: Apparently I have to sign, scan and send back a form for that identity group 2013-02-14T12:09:25 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o polerin 2013-02-14T12:09:35 *** polerin changes topic to "it is always necessary" 2013-02-14T12:20:01 shopping used cars is depressing as hell. 2013-02-14T12:20:41 I actually enjoyed doing it, but that's because I just started telling people to fuck off. 2013-02-14T12:20:48 and I had some disposable income expected. 2013-02-14T12:21:39 *** x86Daddy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2013-02-14T12:21:52 I think the only part that I would find depressing is that the used car market still hasn't recovered from Cash for Clunkers. 2013-02-14T12:22:21 myin which way? 2013-02-14T12:22:47 "oh... you want $8k for a 10 year old Civic with 200k miles on it? Are you high? Oh... everyone is asking that for similar?" 2013-02-14T12:23:37 basically. 2013-02-14T12:23:41 Cash for Clunkers basically wiped out the supply of older cheap used cars. 2013-02-14T12:25:18 Which means that folks that were able to get reliable vehicles for $4-6k with cash are now having to get car lones if they want something that's reliable and/or hasn't had at least one total loss crash on its record. 2013-02-14T12:25:32 s/lones/loans 2013-02-14T12:26:12 Hell, before cash for clunkers, you could easily find a reliable car for $2-3k. 2013-02-14T12:27:08 cars in that range don't even run, seems like. 2013-02-14T12:27:16 yeah 2013-02-14T12:27:19 Dagmar: yeah, I know it's ridiculous isn't it? 2013-02-14T12:27:39 oddball: I can see that. 2013-02-14T12:27:40 I happened to have a jpg of my signature that I pasted onto it and emailed back 2013-02-14T12:30:40 Dagmar: Ah, you got hit with Google+'s "real name" bullshit? 2013-02-14T12:30:46 again? 2013-02-14T12:30:53 Nope. 2013-02-14T12:30:56 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o oddball 2013-02-14T12:30:57 You guys are crazy 2013-02-14T12:30:58 http://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/3616886327.html 2013-02-14T12:30:59 Title: 1998 Dodge Van- 83k Miles (at nashville.craigslist.org) 2013-02-14T12:31:18 That's only $2,500. You can make that back from selling just one or two stray kids. 2013-02-14T12:31:33 heh 2013-02-14T12:31:56 In defense, cargo vans have always had low resale value. 2013-02-14T12:32:01 that's part of the problem, too. i have to cart little folks. 2013-02-14T12:32:45 i've seen a few vans too that the price was right for, and i was just now considering some other scary van.. 2013-02-14T12:32:50 Well, properly bound and gagged you can stack them like cordwood in the back of that thing 2013-02-14T12:33:16 "get in your sacks, kids!" 2013-02-14T12:33:20 Yes! Show up to the carpool to pick up youngsters in a beat up white cargo van! 2013-02-14T12:33:46 i'd have to grow the mustache back for all that. 2013-02-14T12:34:27 Remember to keep a bag of candy with you. 2013-02-14T12:35:08 and make sure to have the epic 80's hairband uncorn fighting a dragon airbrushed mural on the side 2013-02-14T12:35:25 with spinners and a CB antenna. 2013-02-14T12:36:45 need to upgrade to mirrored aviators, too. 2013-02-14T12:37:18 nah, for the full effect, just hand brush painted, in old house paint, "Free Canddy" 2013-02-14T12:39:53 mmm that works too 2013-02-14T12:47:17 can I use my hand to paint it on for bonus points? 2013-02-14T13:08:29 *** sasquatc4 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-02-14T13:26:14 *** sasquatc4 has joined #se2600 2013-02-14T13:26:14 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o sasquatc4 2013-02-14T13:53:27 *** its_jeremy_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-02-14T14:00:32 *** its_jeremy_ has joined #se2600 2013-02-14T14:03:57 *** RangerZ has joined #se2600 2013-02-14T14:22:25 *** x86Daddy has joined #se2600 2013-02-14T14:26:36 *** its_jeremy_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-02-14T14:28:07 *** its_jeremy_ has joined #se2600 2013-02-14T14:32:06 *** sdodson has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2013-02-14T14:32:29 *** Dolemite has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2013-02-14T14:38:57 *** sdodson has joined #se2600 2013-02-14T14:38:57 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o sdodson 2013-02-14T14:54:45 *** sdodson has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2013-02-14T14:55:45 *** sdodson has joined #se2600 2013-02-14T14:55:45 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o sdodson 2013-02-14T14:57:48 *** phaile has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-02-14T15:00:10 *** phaile has joined #se2600 2013-02-14T15:04:48 *** sdodson has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2013-02-14T15:05:22 *** sdodson has joined #se2600 2013-02-14T15:05:22 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o sdodson 2013-02-14T15:25:05 *** RangerZ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-02-14T16:04:04 *** RangerZ has joined #se2600 2013-02-14T17:07:45 *** CNwaV has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-02-14T17:33:17 *** ZeroMinuS has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2013-02-14T17:36:14 anyone know of any better deals on a portable drive than this? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?nm_mc=AFC-TechBargains&cm_mmc=AFC-TechBargains-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA&Item=N82E16822149225 2013-02-14T17:36:15 Title: TOSHIBA Canvio Basics 3.0 HDTB107XK3AA External Hard Drive - Newegg.com (at www.newegg.com) 2013-02-14T17:39:53 http://www.angryduck.com/pics/no_more_bullies.htm 2013-02-14T17:39:54 Title: no more bullies (at www.angryduck.com) 2013-02-14T18:04:47 *** Genphlux has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2013-02-14T18:27:50 *** x86Daddy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2013-02-14T19:25:26 *** RangerZ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2013-02-14T19:37:43 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Seagate+-+FreeAgent+GoFlex+Desk+1TB+External+USB+2.0/3.0+Hard+Drive+-+Black/1305512.p?id=1218249064227&skuId=1305512 2013-02-14T19:37:45 Title: Seagate FreeAgent GoFlex Desk 1TB External USB 2.03.0 Hard Drive Black STAC1000101 - Best Buy (at www.bestbuy.com) 2013-02-14T19:38:36 *** phaile has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-02-14T19:38:59 There's not much serious variation in prices right now 2013-02-14T19:40:38 BB actually has that same drive for $79 2013-02-14T19:40:59 'cept in 1Tb capacity 2013-02-14T19:51:06 *** phaile has joined #se2600 2013-02-14T19:51:50 *** RangerZ has joined #se2600 2013-02-14T20:03:46 *** jim_ec2 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) 2013-02-14T20:10:29 wow... https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/188248_579866262042595_1678852032_n.jpg 2013-02-14T20:10:49 https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/16471_579864675376087_1700926694_n.jpg 2013-02-14T20:11:44 from this 'pro 2nd amendment' group on FB 2013-02-14T20:13:29 *** jim_ec2 has joined #se2600 2013-02-14T20:21:15 http://www.explosm.net/comics/3075/ ROFL 2013-02-14T20:21:16 Title: Cyanide & Happiness #3075 - Explosm.net (at www.explosm.net) 2013-02-14T20:24:12 *** jim_ec2 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) 2013-02-14T20:24:28 *** jim_ec2 has joined #se2600 2013-02-14T20:58:03 *** LastChild has joined #se2600 2013-02-14T20:58:03 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o LastChild 2013-02-14T21:10:34 *** LstChld has joined #se2600 2013-02-14T21:10:34 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o LstChld 2013-02-14T21:14:09 *** LastChild has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-02-14T21:27:50 *** ZombieChicken has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2013-02-14T21:31:28 Dagmar: ping 2013-02-14T21:45:09 http://i.imgur.com/akcOWZP.png look at this trouble ticket 2013-02-14T21:45:33 damn bitch. You wanna pass the buck... you best not pass it in my direction cause I won't be tolerating that shit 2013-02-14T21:56:30 Vandy's way of saying welcome home. 2013-02-14T22:14:28 oh... odd question 2013-02-14T22:15:11 shouldn't "rm -r *.stg~" delete all files recursively that end with '.stg~' 2013-02-14T22:15:34 or am i missing something fundamental here b/c i haven't slept in like 2.5 days or something, lol 2013-02-14T22:19:38 haha http://xkcd.com/1171/ 2013-02-14T22:19:39 Title: xkcd: Perl Problems (at xkcd.com) 2013-02-14T22:22:22 http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/13/french-driver-200kmh-car-chase?CMP=SOCNETTXT6966 2013-02-14T22:22:23 Title: French driver trapped for an hour in speeding 125mph car with no brakes | World news | The Guardian (at www.guardian.co.uk) 2013-02-14T22:22:29 yeah, thats interesting 2013-02-14T22:22:37 so i'm reading this and have to ask why he couldnt' just turn the engine off? 2013-02-14T22:22:40 he had a modified gas/break 2013-02-14T22:22:50 and it wasn't working 2013-02-14T22:22:55 b/c he's paralyzed 2013-02-14T22:23:24 it likely has one of those keyfob 'key's and they bypassed the shutoff when installed the custom gas/break on the steering wheel 2013-02-14T22:25:45 so you can't recursively delete files... 2013-02-14T22:25:50 odd 2013-02-14T22:28:59 find blah blah blah | rm 2013-02-14T22:29:39 yeah 2013-02-14T22:30:04 it just was odd to see it not being "recursive" 2013-02-14T22:30:19 even with the '-r'... but ehh 2013-02-14T22:46:13 haha 2013-02-14T22:46:19 king of the nerds again makes me lol 2013-02-14T22:55:34 http://i.minus.com/iZKsiD2ucT1lS.gif 2013-02-14T22:56:28 RangerZ: its only recursive if one of the args is a dir 2013-02-14T22:56:50 the shell evals the globs before passing to argv of the program 2013-02-14T22:57:42 or if the glob doesn't match it passes the literal *.blah string and most programs don't do any globbing themselves 2013-02-14T23:06:35 *** sasquatc4 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-02-14T23:07:14 *** sasquatc4 has joined #se2600 2013-02-14T23:07:14 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o sasquatc4 2013-02-14T23:14:05 Corydon76-home: i felt like you today 2013-02-14T23:14:27 had a gay black guy wash my hair at salon i went to get my hair cut, lol 2013-02-14T23:17:21 *** ZombieChicken has joined #se2600 2013-02-14T23:17:21 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ZombieChicken 2013-02-14T23:35:58 *** NotLarry has joined #se2600 2013-02-14T23:35:58 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o NotLarry 2013-02-14T23:46:40 *** ThisIsBS has joined #se2600 2013-02-14T23:46:43 *** LstChld has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2013-02-14T23:47:13 *** ThisIsBS is now known as LastChild 2013-02-14T23:47:24 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o LastChild 2013-02-14T23:50:19 *** NotLarry has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-02-14T23:52:00 *** NotLarry has joined #se2600 2013-02-14T23:56:50 God Bless America is still one of the better movies I've seen this decade 2013-02-14T23:58:07 I think i've seen that. 2013-02-14T23:59:29 I would so date that chick