2013-02-10T00:00:01  <Dagmar> The margin gets thinner as you go up and the zap-back doesn't keep pace with your battery size
2013-02-10T00:00:05  <sdodson> From the zipcar explosion.
2013-02-10T00:00:08  <Dagmar> I've got 100+ L7 XMPs.
2013-02-10T00:00:14  <Dagmar> Over 300 L6's
2013-02-10T00:00:34  <Dagmar> iFarm.
2013-02-10T00:00:40  <sdodson> I imagine by the time I can use level 5 stuff i'll have 250+
2013-02-10T00:00:58  <Dagmar> ...and regardless of what some people assume, you can _still_ drop bursters in salvos and get away with it
2013-02-10T00:01:28  <Dagmar> ...although trying to exceed a rate of about 5 every 4 seconds risks getting the client a little screwed up
2013-02-10T00:01:45  <Dagmar> If you think it's going to take six, go ahead and drop six.
2013-02-10T00:02:16  <Dagmar> Unless the servers are super-happy at the moment (LOL, never happens) you can generally always fire off that many before the first one lands.
2013-02-10T00:02:36  <Dagmar> The return zaps don't keep up.
2013-02-10T00:03:12  <Dagmar> A portal with no resonators left can't do anything but sit there.
2013-02-10T00:03:52  <Dagmar> They really need to do something with mitigation
2013-02-10T00:04:21  <Dagmar> I am quite sure I could in one go at it, obliterate an L7 portal with 4 very_rare shields on it, and not be out of Xm
2013-02-10T00:04:57  <Dagmar> Honestly I shoudln't be able to
2013-02-10T00:05:05  <Dagmar> It makes the playfield too transitory
2013-02-10T00:05:25  <Dagmar> At even levels, it takes about 15-18 bursters to wipe out a portal
2013-02-10T00:09:24  <sdodson> I think they need to add more shield slots.
2013-02-10T00:09:36  <sdodson> Up that to 8 or maybe even tie shields to each resonator.
2013-02-10T00:11:35  <Dagmar> Well, they certainly need to do *something* to prevent one person being able to almost trivially undo what it takes five different players to make.
2013-02-10T00:11:53  <Dagmar> That's the concrete problem at hand.
2013-02-10T00:12:13  <Dagmar> You can only deploy *one* L7 resonator per portal.
2013-02-10T00:13:01  <Dagmar> ...meaning the best one person alone can do at L7 is 5.125, or an L5 portal.
2013-02-10T00:13:39  <Dagmar> It takes two L7 players to make an L6 portal.
2013-02-10T00:14:15  <Dagmar> Yet, one L7 player can take it out in one visit, shielded or not
2013-02-10T00:16:14  <Dagmar> It's also a _bitch_ to keep that much XM in there.
2013-02-10T00:17:03  <sdodson> trying to decide if i want to drive out and tear one down, only problem is it's a place where the cops sit and catch speeders and drunks
2013-02-10T00:17:09  <sdodson> i'd rather not deal with cops
2013-02-10T00:17:30  <sdodson> i guess i'll do it tomorrow morning assuming it's still green, downtown raleigh is almost entirely blue again
2013-02-10T00:17:56  <Dagmar> Hell, if you're _not speeding_ and the weather is nice, I'd do it anyway.
2013-02-10T00:18:18  <Dagmar> Metro cops barely shrug at me since i'm not up to anything nefarious
2013-02-10T00:20:54  <sdodson> I'd be going to a shitty part of town and parking for fifteen minutes across from the homeless shelter. I'll do it in the morning.
2013-02-10T00:29:41  <Dagmar> Oh... Screw that then
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2013-02-10T02:48:02  <aestetix> vagina
2013-02-10T13:09:55  <Dagmar> Ah... I gotta say.  I like this Chris Dorner kid
2013-02-10T13:13:51  <Dagmar> CLEARLY he's a little wobbly, but he definitely means well
2013-02-10T13:17:09  <Dagmar> http://ktla.com/2013/02/07/read-christopher-dorners-so-called-manifesto/#axzz2KWLYb0op
2013-02-10T13:18:43  <Dagmar> The LAPD is in some shit.
2013-02-10T13:19:58  <Dagmar> This dude is going to kill a LOT of cops
2013-02-10T13:25:28  <sdodson> He seems trapped now.
2013-02-10T13:59:24  <Dagmar> Uhh...
2013-02-10T13:59:33  <Dagmar> It's rather more likely they're on a snipe hunt up there.
2013-02-10T14:00:27  <Dagmar> I can't see any reason for him to have burned out his _own_ truck, but this guy I suspect wouldn't have had any problem finding some properly-motivated person to drive his truck out there for him and set it on fire
2013-02-10T14:01:39  <Dagmar> It would send the cops looking for him down the primrose path, perhaps keep them from shooting any more little old asian women...
2013-02-10T14:02:03  <Dagmar> ...and as an added bonus, burning the car would eliminate any evidence of who helped him out there.
2013-02-10T15:57:03  <Bahhumbug> wilpig: What version of rtorrent are you running?  What's the underlying platform you're running it on.  I'm trying to get rutorrent up and running on a c5 host and it's giving me... problems.    So if I can short-circuit the issues I would appreciate it, otherwise I'm going to port the modern fedora bits over to c5 and that's going to be a headache that I'd like to avoid if at all possible.
2013-02-10T15:59:05  <Bahhumbug> (BTW - it doesn't help that Dag's shit is completely and utterly broken and spewing out symbol lookup errors :/ )
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2013-02-10T16:58:01  <Bahhumbug> wilpig: ignore previous.  Found sane binary and source rpms for rtorrent, libtorrent and the multitude of xmlrpc-c packages from a trusted source and things are progressing nicely.  For various small values of nicely.
2013-02-10T17:38:43  <Dagmar> You've probably just got the wrong versions of supporting libraries
2013-02-10T17:39:06  <Dagmar> The conditions that lead to symbol errors tend to bring compiling to a _screeching halt_
2013-02-10T17:50:47  <Bahhumbug> It's typical Dag bullshit.
2013-02-10T17:51:25  <Bahhumbug> If the fucking .spec files had the proper build and runtime Requires it wouldn't be a problem, but, of course, they don't.
2013-02-10T17:51:43  <Bahhumbug> Because Dag's a lazy fuckwad that just doesn't give a shit any longer.
2013-02-10T18:04:30  <Dagmar> Ah so not only does he have to write the software, he has to compile it in such a way that it'll function on every jackass' random configuration
2013-02-10T18:04:45  <Dagmar> ...when if they weren't a big sack of lazy, they could merrily compile their own goddamn selves
2013-02-10T18:05:21  <Bahhumbug> He doesn't write shit.
2013-02-10T18:05:39  <Bahhumbug> He's released dstat and mrepo and that's really about it over the course of the past 5 years.
2013-02-10T18:05:52  <Dagmar> Well, if you think you can release better packages, feel free to step the fuck up
2013-02-10T18:06:13  <Bahhumbug> If you're going to maintain a 3rd-party repo, one of the largest, if not the largest, for EL then how about actually _maintaining_ it?
2013-02-10T18:06:23  <Bahhumbug> You are missing the point.
2013-02-10T18:06:28  <Dagmar> No, I'm not.
2013-02-10T18:06:33  <Dagmar> I see you've said the thing works.
2013-02-10T18:06:43  <Bahhumbug> Not _HIS_ packages.
2013-02-10T18:06:43  <Dagmar> You've aleo complained it carps about symbol lookups.
2013-02-10T18:07:17  <Bahhumbug> yum --enablerepo=rpmforge install rtorrent && rtorrent && watch it go boom.
2013-02-10T18:07:26  <Bahhumbug> Don't release shit that doesn't work.
2013-02-10T18:07:30  <Bahhumbug> It's really just that simple.
2013-02-10T18:07:49  <Dagmar> What you've not considered, is that there's thousands of fuckwits out there who will merrily accuse strangers of being somewhere between Hitler and Satan
2013-02-10T18:08:20  <Bahhumbug> I'll have gsi disttag'd rpms for all arches / releases by the end of tonight.  Building it isn't the issue.  The fact that he's releasing broken shit for months is.  The fact that he doesn't push security updates is another issue.  None of this is news.
2013-02-10T18:08:23  <Dagmar> ...so if package managers tend to stop giving a fuck over time, it's because we don't kill enough children while they're still pre-verbal.
2013-02-10T18:10:23  <Bahhumbug> Dagmar: Dag is a control freak.  He has skilled packagers and contribs for rpmforge/repoforge.  However they aren't permitted to actually _build_ anything, let alone sign it.  I've seen multiple instances where things that Steve or Yuri have packaged and _worked_ have mysteriously broken on his build host after he's had his fingers in the mix.
2013-02-10T18:10:39  <Bahhumbug> He won't give them access to build/sign/release.
2013-02-10T18:10:41  * Bahhumbug shrugs
2013-02-10T18:11:06  <Bahhumbug> He used to be a helluva boon to the EL world.  That ship has sailed.  Now he's just a hanger-on.
2013-02-10T18:11:49  <Bahhumbug> Most people I know are kicking rpmforge to the curb and going exclusively with epel for non-multimedia, even though they lag in releases, and atrpms for multimedia.
2013-02-10T18:12:19  <Bahhumbug> Or just knuckling down and learning the magic of mock / koji and doing it all themselves :)
2013-02-10T18:12:42  <Dagmar> Whoopity do
2013-02-10T18:49:40  <sdodson> Dag also gets CC'd on damn near every bug.
2013-02-10T18:51:21  <eryc> http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2013/02/10/anatomy-of-a-vulnerability-curl-web-download-toolkit-holed-by-authentication-bug/
2013-02-10T18:51:23  <GateKeeper> Title: Anatomy of a vulnerability cURL web download toolkit holed by authentication bug | Naked Security (at nakedsecurity.sophos.com)
2013-02-10T18:52:52  <sdodson> eryc: j0o haxoring muh cURL?
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2013-02-10T20:09:53  <Goat21_HM> Heya
2013-02-10T20:10:31  <Goat21_HM> Tough crowd...jeez
2013-02-10T20:10:39  <Goat21_HM> :)
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2013-02-10T20:45:06  <Bahhumbug> sdodson: To be fair he _is_ a RHCE and has a consulting business that is almost exclusively EL-based so keeping up on open issues makes some sense.
2013-02-10T20:47:07  <sdodson> Bahhumbug: yeah, it's not a problem, it's just i can't fathom the amount of email he gets
2013-02-10T20:47:12  <sdodson> RHCE UBER ALLIES UNITE!
2013-02-10T20:47:22  <sdodson> I should get off my ass and get my RHCA.
2013-02-10T20:47:29  <Goat21_HM> Hey...I have my own consulting business...
2013-02-10T20:47:31  <sdodson> I got 100% on my last RHCE.
2013-02-10T20:47:36  <Goat21_HM> kinda limited to an island though
2013-02-10T20:48:37  <Bahhumbug> I'd be stashing it in a database if I were him, but *shrug*.
2013-02-10T20:49:03  <sdodson> Bahhumbug: I'm sure he's mining it some way more efficient than just an email box.
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2013-02-10T20:49:20  <sdodson> It's also a good way to catch comments that are public but subsequently go private.
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2013-02-10T20:49:41  <Bahhumbug> That annoys me greatly.
2013-02-10T20:50:01  <Bahhumbug> I can see if it's an issue with security impact, but it occurs on everything.
2013-02-10T20:51:03  <sdodson> Sometimes it's because people make mistakes and put customer specific data in public comments.
2013-02-10T20:51:19  <sdodson> But there is a concerted effort to make sure public information stays public.
2013-02-10T21:13:11  <RangerZ> thats a 'feature' not  a bug
2013-02-10T21:47:33  <aestetix> penis
2013-02-10T21:53:17  <aestetix> ok I can tell I'm getting older.
2013-02-10T21:53:28  <aestetix> I can't eat ghetto burgers anymore.
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2013-02-10T22:53:51  <RangerZ> http://www.instructables.com/id/Privacy-monitor-made-from-an-old-LCD-Monitor/?ALLSTEPS thats kinda cool
2013-02-10T22:53:52  <GateKeeper> Title: Privacy monitor hacked from an old LCD Monitor (at www.instructables.com)
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2013-02-10T23:37:49  <Dagmar> Holy crap
2013-02-10T23:37:57  <Dagmar> I didn't think LCD panels worked quite like that