2013-01-27T00:21:45  <wilpig> is kat.ph down?
2013-01-27T00:27:01  <sdodson> aestetix: NSFW, this is your sort of site vaginacology.com NSFW
2013-01-27T00:31:29  <Dickie> well don't that just beat all?
2013-01-27T00:37:48  <aestetix> .... wow
2013-01-27T00:39:47  <aestetix> this site is really clever
2013-01-27T00:46:18  <Bahhumbug> wilpig: yes, it is.
2013-01-27T01:15:24  <aestetix> sdodson: http://imgur.com/a/Fo7QW#0 NSFW
2013-01-27T01:15:25  <GateKeeper> Title: Female to Male Gender Reassignment Surgery - Imgur (at imgur.com)
2013-01-27T01:15:33  <aestetix> it's a girl having her pussy made into a dick
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2013-01-27T01:49:23  <wilpig> Bahhumbug: I am not getting it.  just a white page coming up.
2013-01-27T01:49:39  <wilpig> maybe I need to flush the squid cache
2013-01-27T01:52:37  <Bahhumbug> Silly language semantics.  I meant "Yes, it is down for me as well."
2013-01-27T01:55:45  <wilpig> lol
2013-01-27T01:56:10  <wilpig> would help if I remembered what I asked too
2013-01-27T02:26:59  <Bahhumbug> Heh.
2013-01-27T02:33:46  <aestetix> penis
2013-01-27T02:38:21  <wilpig> I liked it better when you were promising vagina and not delivering.  I really don't want delivery of penis.
2013-01-27T02:47:13  <aestetix> wilpig: that was for NotLarry
2013-01-27T02:47:17  <aestetix> 18+penis
2013-01-27T03:11:31  <Bahhumbug> That's a lot of penis.
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2013-01-27T04:46:45  <aestetix> its of age
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2013-01-27T06:12:49  <mgalgoci> balls
2013-01-27T06:40:37  <wilpig> mgalgoci: is this what you were referring to? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxMpDuAkaeI
2013-01-27T06:40:38  <GateKeeper> Title: Supernatural 6x04 "Weekend at Bobbys" - Balls - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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2013-01-27T20:13:39  <wilpig> LOL  "I could be wrong, but then I'd be out a shoe and up a meal."
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2013-01-27T20:44:51  <aestetix> http://channelsource.org/
2013-01-27T20:44:52  <GateKeeper> Title: Channel Source.org (at channelsource.org)
2013-01-27T20:44:58  <aestetix> this is why you pay your webmaster
2013-01-27T20:45:07  <aestetix> otherwise this will happen
2013-01-27T20:46:11  <wilpig> lol
2013-01-27T20:49:09  <LastChild> nice
2013-01-27T20:52:50  <sdodson> aestetix: uhhh thanks
2013-01-27T20:53:51  <sdodson> Bahhumbug: for you http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html
2013-01-27T20:53:53  <GateKeeper> Title: Wunschkonzert, Ponyhof und Abenteuerspielplatz (at 0pointer.de)
2013-01-27T20:54:16  <sdodson> mgalgoci: you like systemd?
2013-01-27T21:05:52  <wilpig> https://twitter.com/kickasstorrents/status/295553454091423744
2013-01-27T21:05:54  <GateKeeper> Title: Twitter / kickasstorrents: Kat.ph will get back online ... (at twitter.com)
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2013-01-27T21:21:45  <sdodson> wilpig: what level are you?
2013-01-27T21:22:18  <sdodson> i finally hit level 3 and now my resonators can actually withstand attacks from newbs long enough for me to defend them
2013-01-27T21:23:00  <brimstone> i'm level 1!
2013-01-27T21:23:07  <brimstone> placement if portals is terrible!
2013-01-27T21:24:24  <sdodson> brimstone: submit new ones
2013-01-27T21:24:30  <sdodson> brimstone: and correct bad ones
2013-01-27T21:25:20  <wilpig> sdodson: 5
2013-01-27T21:25:49  <brimstone> too much work
2013-01-27T21:25:52  <sdodson> brimstone: for which side do you pledge your allegiance?
2013-01-27T21:26:02  <brimstone> blue
2013-01-27T21:26:03  <wilpig> thanks to our visitor from detroit showing us how they do it up there.  I got so much AP in one night
2013-01-27T21:26:05  <brimstone> but i should be green
2013-01-27T21:26:08  <brimstone> only blue portals near me
2013-01-27T21:26:12  <brimstone> and they're far away :(
2013-01-27T21:26:13  <wilpig> you can change
2013-01-27T21:26:17  <sdodson> wilpig: and how do they do it up there/
2013-01-27T21:26:34  <brimstone> how do you change?
2013-01-27T21:26:34  <sdodson> I'm blue but thinking about going green to balance things out and for eassier attacking
2013-01-27T21:26:48  <Dickie> Ok, ok.
2013-01-27T21:26:53  <sdodson> brimstone: you get most points for creating links and fields anyway so just farm keys and build shit.
2013-01-27T21:26:58  <Dickie> What're we talking about, and why hasn't anyone told me already?
2013-01-27T21:26:59  <wilpig> sdodson: apparently they roll into town and take over the joint.  at least that was what he tried to show us.  we mocked him and took control back just about hte second he did it
2013-01-27T21:27:03  <sdodson> And now you get points for recharging.
2013-01-27T21:27:09  <brimstone> Dickie: some facebook game
2013-01-27T21:27:09  <Dickie> I demand to be in all loops.
2013-01-27T21:27:17  * Dickie snorts
2013-01-27T21:27:21  <brimstone> foursquare, with space noises
2013-01-27T21:27:30  <sdodson> brimstone: pretty much
2013-01-27T21:27:33  <wilpig> and hacking!
2013-01-27T21:27:37  <wilpig> lol
2013-01-27T21:27:49  <brimstone> i checked into a sign today
2013-01-27T21:27:51  <sdodson> I traveled 100 miles to a far away town today but didn't get enough keys to build any huge fields.
2013-01-27T21:28:12  <wilpig> I like the sounds it makes in my pocket when i'm walkint toward a portal.  I make sure the volume is up high enough for people to hear when I am downtown
2013-01-27T21:28:13  <sdodson> Also didn't realize you couldn't cross existing links so i'm wondering if you need to do some coordination to build big fields.
2013-01-27T21:28:30  <brimstone> probably
2013-01-27T21:28:44  <wilpig> "45 meters to target." *ping*
2013-01-27T21:28:48  <sdodson> wilpig: i turn down the volume to avoid ruining my pleasant social appeal
2013-01-27T21:28:55  <sdodson> ya know, for the ladies
2013-01-27T21:29:26  <wilpig> I wanna see if anyone is really paying attention to what is going on around them down there.  surely something talking about targets would get noticed
2013-01-27T21:29:27  <sdodson> I wonder how long until someone has DHS called on them
2013-01-27T21:29:45  <sdodson> "Target is 75M to the north east!" and someone freaks
2013-01-27T21:30:33  <sdodson> I think they're about 2 months away from monetizing this.
2013-01-27T21:30:57  <wilpig> I already see some of the avenues
2013-01-27T21:30:59  <Dagmar> WEll, I was about to wonder why wilbpig was over at the Best Buy on my side of town, but hten I realized the one near his is gone now
2013-01-27T21:31:30  <wilpig> Dagmar: I went to lunch with troy at the sushi train the other day and popped into bestbuy to get a replacement xm
2013-01-27T21:31:45  <Dagmar> Ahhh...
2013-01-27T21:32:06  <Dagmar> I was out getting a burger and drove by for Xm of a different kind
2013-01-27T21:32:09  <wilpig> the portal is right on top of it too.  not like I could miss it
2013-01-27T21:33:02  <wilpig> if that juicy portal is still up at centenial when i goto lunch I'm gonna drive by and blast the crap out of it
2013-01-27T21:33:13  <Dagmar> Which one?
2013-01-27T21:33:21  <wilpig> http://www.ingress.com/intel?latE6=36146636&lngE6=-86810998&z=17
2013-01-27T21:33:22  <GateKeeper> Title: Ingress (at www.ingress.com)
2013-01-27T21:33:55  <wilpig> 28th and poston
2013-01-27T21:34:04  <Dagmar> Yeah I think we've finally got that place set up as a noob zone slash AP farm
2013-01-27T21:34:15  <wilpig> ap for me
2013-01-27T21:34:37  <Dagmar> Just put 1's on it
2013-01-27T21:35:00  <wilpig> I think i'm out actually out of 1s.  I have some 2s though
2013-01-27T21:35:02  <Dagmar> MolonLabe is erring
2013-01-27T21:35:18  <wilpig> I see that
2013-01-27T21:35:43  <Dagmar> A little more dickery and they'll have me coding more on that sniffer
2013-01-27T21:37:50  <wilpig> this time in two weeks i'm gonna be drunk and lookin' at boobies.
2013-01-27T21:38:00  <Dagmar> really?
2013-01-27T21:38:05  <wilpig> yup
2013-01-27T21:38:19  <Dagmar> (unrelated) about to dump what XM I have into Miracles Wrought
2013-01-27T21:38:32  <Dagmar> assuming I can get a lock on it
2013-01-27T21:38:39  <Dagmar> Boobies where?
2013-01-27T21:38:45  <wilpig> NOLA
2013-01-27T21:38:58  <wilpig> I'll send pictures back
2013-01-27T21:39:03  <Dagmar> Ahhh
2013-01-27T21:39:15  <Dagmar> I'm just taking some days off then for no real reason
2013-01-27T21:39:53  <wilpig> jay convinced me we should goto mardi gras.  so we are
2013-01-27T21:39:53  <Dagmar> Damnit have three keys for there and still can't get a lock
2013-01-27T21:41:27  <wilpig> I've been having that trouble with teh library on thompson
2013-01-27T21:41:28  <sdodson> Is there any way to deploy resonators other than level 1?
2013-01-27T21:41:35  <sdodson> or do you have to drop level 1 resonators and then upgrade?
2013-01-27T21:42:10  <wilpig> drop one resonator.  then hit upgrade and you can pick the one you want to deploy
2013-01-27T21:42:38  <Dagmar> Not necessary.  You can just go straight to whatever one you want
2013-01-27T21:42:59  <Dagmar> You don't have to actually go through hitting "deploy" for any of them if you're looking at the spinwheel screen
2013-01-27T21:43:31  <Dagmar> It's just *easy* to hit deploy to throw out the lowest ones you have automatically
2013-01-27T21:43:41  <sdodson> i see, so go to upgrade first then drop higher level resonators, do you claim the lower level resonators you upgrade?
2013-01-27T21:43:49  <Dagmar> NOpe.
2013-01-27T21:43:59  <Dagmar> When you upgrade stuff it just destroys what you replaced.
2013-01-27T21:44:32  <Bahhumbug> sdodson: Fuck that page.  Fuck systemd.  Fuck Lennart.
2013-01-27T21:44:41  <sdodson> Bahhumbug: did you read it though?
2013-01-27T21:44:43  <Bahhumbug> Most recent systemd bullshit:  http://fpaste.org/t18q/
2013-01-27T21:44:44  <GateKeeper> Title: Viewing Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 13:54:49 +000 ... already included the systemd-nspawn ... .org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce (at fpaste.org)
2013-01-27T21:44:58  <sdodson> Bahhumbug: yeah i saw the feature request
2013-01-27T21:45:10  <Bahhumbug> request_s_ :/
2013-01-27T21:45:31  <sdodson> If Kay is supporting a feature i'm all behind it.
2013-01-27T21:45:36  <Bahhumbug> He continues down his path for complete linux domination to soothe his ego.
2013-01-27T21:45:43  <sdodson> Bahhumbug: none the less, did you read the blog post?
2013-01-27T21:45:49  <Bahhumbug> Wow.  Seriously?
2013-01-27T21:46:00  <Bahhumbug> He's just as much to blame for this bullshit as Lennart.
2013-01-27T21:46:19  <Bahhumbug> He just doesn't have the "Hi.  I'm a fucking asshole." stamp on everything he writes.
2013-01-27T21:46:27  <Bahhumbug> I glanced at it.
2013-01-27T21:46:27  <wilpig> sdodson: if you come across someone else's portal make sure to upgrade them though.  those new upgrade points are great
2013-01-27T21:46:30  <sdodson> Bahhumbug: so you don't like udev either?
2013-01-27T21:46:32  <Bahhumbug> It's just propaganda.
2013-01-27T21:46:38  <Dagmar> udevd is fine.
2013-01-27T21:46:40  <wilpig> specialdark and I traded upgrades last night from lvl1 up through 5
2013-01-27T21:46:51  <Dagmar> If they're about to roll all that stuff into pure binary goo then fuck them both
2013-01-27T21:46:52  <sdodson> wilpig: i am, but i'm trying to conserve my level 3 stuff as id on't have a ton
2013-01-27T21:46:58  <Bahhumbug> And it's full of shit.
2013-01-27T21:47:14  <Bahhumbug> The driving force behind systemd was "Oh noes!  My laptop boots too slow!!!111oneoneone"
2013-01-27T21:47:16  <sdodson> Bahhumbug: i'm fine with you saying that provided you read it.
2013-01-27T21:47:36  <Bahhumbug> fedora is dying.
2013-01-27T21:47:39  <Bahhumbug> And fast.
2013-01-27T21:47:45  <Bahhumbug> And this continuing bullshit isn't helping.
2013-01-27T21:48:06  <Bahhumbug> Other distros have accepted the _initial_ systemd offerings mostly because upstart was never fully realized.
2013-01-27T21:48:12  <Bahhumbug> But this latest round of crap?
2013-01-27T21:48:15  <Bahhumbug> Not a chance.
2013-01-27T21:48:45  <sdodson> Bahhumbug: assume you also saw the feature to make Cinnamon the default desktop?
2013-01-27T21:49:00  <Bahhumbug> I see all features :)
2013-01-27T21:49:07  <Bahhumbug> And that will never happen.
2013-01-27T21:49:12  <sdodson> Bahhumbug: The installer in 18 isn't fully baked but otherwise F18 is treating me well.
2013-01-27T21:49:21  <Bahhumbug> baked?
2013-01-27T21:49:29  <Bahhumbug> It's absolute shit.
2013-01-27T21:49:34  <sdodson> I haven't actually used the installer in a few releases so I don't know.
2013-01-27T21:49:48  <sdodson> Bahhumbug: you're living up to your nick :-)
2013-01-27T21:49:57  <Bahhumbug> You mean bluntly honest?
2013-01-27T21:50:07  <Bahhumbug> Sorry, I call a turd a turd.
2013-01-27T21:50:17  <Bahhumbug> And the anaconda rewrite is a festering pile of baby poop.
2013-01-27T21:50:27  <Bahhumbug> Mismanaged, half-assed, and _broken_.
2013-01-27T21:51:02  <Bahhumbug> Anaconda needed work, but this?  It's not even laughable.
2013-01-27T21:51:28  <Bahhumbug> It's so bad that your emp needed to drop a wad of cash on Ziff-Davis to get a published review that put it in a good light.
2013-01-27T21:51:37  <sdodson> Bahhumbug: I think spot's talk about how to land big features is good. I don't know the goals of the re-write or what the problems with it are but it was clearly too big of a feature to deliver in the timeframe for which F18 was to be released.
2013-01-27T21:52:02  <Bahhumbug> (No, I can't prove it.  But ZD has a decades long history of taking... monetary donations... for favorable reviews.  And since the rest of the industry has shit all over anaconda...)
2013-01-27T21:52:06  <sdodson> Bahhumbug: which article?
2013-01-27T21:52:18  <Bahhumbug> I didn't bookmark it.
2013-01-27T21:52:29  <Bahhumbug> It came out early last week, I believe.
2013-01-27T21:52:35  <Bahhumbug> If I come across it I will shoot you a url.
2013-01-27T21:52:53  <Bahhumbug> The problem with anaconda was it was grossly mismanaged from a time / resources standpoint.
2013-01-27T21:53:15  <Bahhumbug> found it.
2013-01-27T21:53:18  <sdodson> http://www.zdnet.com/fedora-18-finally-arrives-7000009845/ ?
2013-01-27T21:53:19  <Bahhumbug> it was on anaconda-devel
2013-01-27T21:53:20  <GateKeeper> Title: Fedora 18 finally arrives | ZDNet (at www.zdnet.com)
2013-01-27T21:53:49  <Bahhumbug> http://www.zdnet.com/more-on-fedora-18_p4-7000009990/#photo
2013-01-27T21:53:50  <GateKeeper> Title: Fedora 18 revisited: Cinnamon, Xfce, LXDM, and a wow for anaconda | Page 4 | ZDNet (at www.zdnet.com)
2013-01-27T21:53:52  <Bahhumbug> I think that's it.
2013-01-27T21:54:57  <Bahhumbug> And yet, Tom's right.  It was too big of a goal.  It should have landed in rawhide for _at least_ a full dev cycle.
2013-01-27T21:54:57  <sdodson> he's wowed by it
2013-01-27T21:55:02  <Bahhumbug> Prior to branch.
2013-01-27T21:55:13  <Bahhumbug> He's wowed by the stipend in his pocket.
2013-01-27T21:55:17  <sdodson> Well, they dont' have any real way to land stuff in rawhide but not the next release.
2013-01-27T21:55:36  <Bahhumbug> That's a different discussion :)
2013-01-27T21:55:41  <Bahhumbug> But yeah, that's true.
2013-01-27T21:55:43  <Bahhumbug> But the point remains.
2013-01-27T21:55:44  <sdodson> Anaconda team could've done their work outside of rawhide and then pushed it into rawhide when it was at the state it is now and waited for F19.
2013-01-27T21:56:00  <Bahhumbug> This is the most significant change in fedora for the last X releases where X is a big number.
2013-01-27T21:56:05  <sdodson> They apparently did a lot of the work that way but at a certain point you just have to dive in head first.
2013-01-27T21:56:23  <Bahhumbug> Shoe-horning it into 18 was idiotic.
2013-01-27T21:56:36  <Bahhumbug> Mismanaged abounded.
2013-01-27T21:56:46  <Bahhumbug> Starting at RH management of the anaconda team.
2013-01-27T21:56:59  <sdodson> They clearly need to learn how to back features out that aren't ready
2013-01-27T21:57:06  <sdodson> But that's hard to do with an installer.
2013-01-27T21:57:18  <Bahhumbug> Too much shit landed.
2013-01-27T21:57:33  <Bahhumbug> UEFI/SB requirements didn't help.
2013-01-27T21:57:52  <sdodson> Nothing that could be done about that.
2013-01-27T21:58:06  <sdodson> Perhaps they'll issue a respin in a few weeks.
2013-01-27T21:58:06  <Bahhumbug> Um, delay it for a release?
2013-01-27T21:58:19  <sdodson> Um, there's hardware out that requires secureboot on the market.
2013-01-27T21:58:38  <Bahhumbug> Not a single bit of i86 hardware _requires_ it.
2013-01-27T21:58:43  <sdodson> 6 months from now I imagine all new hardware will require it.
2013-01-27T21:58:48  <Bahhumbug> Nope.
2013-01-27T21:59:02  <sdodson> If it came preinstalled with Windows 8 it's likely going to be an ordeal to get Linux on there if it doesn't support SB.
2013-01-27T21:59:13  <Bahhumbug> Requires for intel/amd non-ARM is that SB MUST be able to be disabled on the platform.
2013-01-27T21:59:22  <Bahhumbug> Bullshit :)
2013-01-27T21:59:36  <Bahhumbug> UEFI Config -> disable SB - reboot.
2013-01-27T21:59:45  <Bahhumbug> ARM is another story and outside the scope of this.
2013-01-27T21:59:51  <sdodson> That's fine for you and I, but not Ubuntu and newby FEdora users.
2013-01-27T21:59:52  <Bahhumbug> That _requires_ it be enforced.
2013-01-27T22:00:05  <Bahhumbug> Fedora's scope is deveopment.
2013-01-27T22:00:20  <Bahhumbug> If you can't read up on hot to disable SB then you are using the wrong distro.
2013-01-27T22:00:33  <sdodson> If you limit Fedora to that scope then new users are relegated to the shit that is Ubuntu.
2013-01-27T22:00:39  <Bahhumbug> And I would wager that 90% (yep, random number out of my ass) of F users can figure it out.
2013-01-27T22:00:50  <Bahhumbug> It's not what _I_ limit it to.
2013-01-27T22:00:59  <Bahhumbug> It's what Fedora has limited its scope to :)
2013-01-27T22:01:09  <Bahhumbug> It's _always_ been geared towards development.
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2013-01-27T22:01:16  <sdodson> Nah, our QA guys who can't run yum love Fedora.
2013-01-27T22:01:53  <Bahhumbug> If you have QA guys that can't rum yum I hear McDonald's and Walmart are both hiring.
2013-01-27T22:02:35  <Bahhumbug> It doesn't really matter though.
2013-01-27T22:02:44  <Bahhumbug> Fedora is losing users at an alarming rate.
2013-01-27T22:03:02  <Bahhumbug> And with both Netflix and Steam only releasing for Ubuntu the writing is on the wall.
2013-01-27T22:03:20  <Bahhumbug> God, that sickens me :/
2013-01-27T22:03:30  <sdodson> People have said that for years.
2013-01-27T22:03:37  <Bahhumbug> Not that I have much, if any, love for Fedora it's just that I absolutely despise Crapbuntu.
2013-01-27T22:04:02  <Bahhumbug> Doesn't matter what anyone has said for years.  Reality is that Netflix and Steam and huge market share grabbers.
2013-01-27T22:04:43  <Bahhumbug> And the whole "We can't release the necessary multimedia components due to trademark / rights issues." doesn't help F's case.
2013-01-27T22:04:45  <wilpig> Dagmar: since I need to go see my parents this week I am thinking about a quick trip up to paducah.  so much ap for an out of towner to be had there
2013-01-27T22:04:49  <Bahhumbug> I understand why it is the way it is.
2013-01-27T22:04:52  <Dagmar> Dude, you talk about Fedora losing users... Ubuntu didn't give anyone a viable option to stick with the Gnome 2 desktop
2013-01-27T22:04:57  <wilpig> http://www.ingress.com/intel?latE6=37084495&lngE6=-88600148&z=18
2013-01-27T22:04:58  <GateKeeper> Title: Ingress (at www.ingress.com)
2013-01-27T22:05:01  <wilpig> one portal, 8 fields
2013-01-27T22:05:20  <Dagmar> They just said "Fuck you guys" and a shitload of people went to Mint and are now seriously considering Fedora because it's got GNOMe 2 as well
2013-01-27T22:05:27  <sdodson> wilpig: Is that corydon's house?
2013-01-27T22:05:29  <Bahhumbug> But when you need to go outside of the distro to get necessary components to play mp3s and watch movies you might as well go with long term stability like CentOS / SL / PUIAS / etc.
2013-01-27T22:05:44  <wilpig> same name, funny eh
2013-01-27T22:05:53  <Bahhumbug> Fedora is, and has been, shedding users for the past 4 releases.
2013-01-27T22:06:00  <sdodson> wilpig: get that shit, low level l1 stuff
2013-01-27T22:06:05  <Bahhumbug> Ubuntu has fucked up, there is no doubt.
2013-01-27T22:06:22  <wilpig> sdodson: it's all low. just take a trip up there to blow it all to bits
2013-01-27T22:06:30  <Bahhumbug> But they are positioning themselves well to suck the entire desktop linux marketshare from everyone else.
2013-01-27T22:06:37  <Dagmar> I'm going to have to make some public statements about the binary goo thing
2013-01-27T22:06:40  <wilpig> three portals and I can clear that entire area out of fields
2013-01-27T22:06:47  <Bahhumbug> I need to help my better half for a bit - brb.
2013-01-27T22:06:58  <Dagmar> THey don't need a jillion kinds of logging going on when they're not even fucking using the ones they have now
2013-01-27T22:06:58  <sdodson> Bahhumbug: i'm going offline, take care
2013-01-27T22:07:02  <wilpig> we aren't your better half?
2013-01-27T22:07:16  <sdodson> Dagmar: what binary goo?
2013-01-27T22:08:01  <Dagmar> sdodson: What I've been hearing about why they're taking on "the logging problem"
2013-01-27T22:08:19  <sdodson> I'm not getting the context.
2013-01-27T22:08:20  <Dagmar> Last I heard the dumbasses wanted it to be stored and transferred in a packed binary format
2013-01-27T22:08:38  <Dagmar> ...and that systemd "feature" looks like it's where the plan to stuff it
2013-01-27T22:09:12  <Dagmar> Rolling all the various system functions into one binary is a bad idea
2013-01-27T22:09:31  <Dagmar> ...and system logs _not_ being a plain text file are the worst
2013-01-27T22:09:55  <Dagmar> They are solving a problem that doesn't exist
2013-01-27T22:10:25  <Dagmar> ....or if it does exist, it's because they've been too lazy to send things to syslog and instead have been just throwing them to STDERR
2013-01-27T22:10:50  <sdodson> systemd is like 80 different binaries though
2013-01-27T22:11:14  <sdodson> binary logs are bullshit
2013-01-27T22:11:44  <sdodson> Making the init system do more and more is a bit scary but i'm willing to see where this ends up
2013-01-27T22:12:31  <Dagmar> Where it'll end up is a lack of flexibility
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2013-01-27T22:47:10  <wilpig> http://www.explosm.net/comics/3063/  lol
2013-01-27T22:47:11  <GateKeeper> Title: Cyanide & Happiness #3063 - Explosm.net (at www.explosm.net)
2013-01-27T22:48:26  <aestetix> vagina
2013-01-27T23:04:34  * wilpig looks around excitedly
2013-01-27T23:04:52  * wilpig kicks aestetix in the vagina
2013-01-27T23:05:40  <sdodson> aestetix: you like that site?
2013-01-27T23:12:47  <aestetix> sdodson: it was clever
2013-01-27T23:18:07  <aestetix> btw
2013-01-27T23:18:08  <aestetix> http://delishows.com/king-of-the-nerds-season-1-episode-2-imaginary-realms.html
2013-01-27T23:18:11  <aestetix> seems to be free
2013-01-27T23:36:21  <Bahhumbug> This sums up systemd: "Well, systemd certainly covers more ground that it used to. It's not just an init system anymore, but the basic userspace building block to build an OS from"...
2013-01-27T23:38:19  <Dagmar> Hmmm...
2013-01-27T23:38:24  <Dagmar> i NEED MORE xm
2013-01-27T23:38:35  <Dagmar> ...and a visual caps-lock indicator.
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2013-01-27T23:45:39  <wilpig> aestetix: yup looks free to me too http://kickasstorrents.com/king-of-the-nerds-s01e02-hdtv-x264-evolve-t7021675.html
2013-01-27T23:46:42  <aestetix> god damnit
2013-01-27T23:46:52  <aestetix> I was hoping virgil would get kicked off so I can stop watching the show