2013-01-16T00:07:51 *** ZaDeaux has quit IRC () 2013-01-16T00:28:33 I think Notlarry would do a better job than that guy 2013-01-16T00:35:23 AHA 2013-01-16T00:35:40 I think I finally figured out the problem with mail 2013-01-16T00:35:57 That damn concurrent connection check is coming into play 2013-01-16T00:36:09 Blame: Peter's. 2013-01-16T00:39:27 Dagmar: I can see notlarry making a course for the nearest black hole "for fun" 2013-01-16T00:42:07 You're bound to find interesting stuff there. 2013-01-16T00:42:39 Seriously tho 2013-01-16T00:43:09 I bet when I ask Sean for a copy of the LTM config, we'll find that the 'no more than 10 concurrent connections' rule is in play going from the SMTP servers to exchange 2013-01-16T00:43:46 I'm willing to bet that you won't find a rule like that. cause he'll sanitize it before you see it 2013-01-16T00:43:54 That would make the problem go away 2013-01-16T00:44:03 Cacti would notice. 2013-01-16T00:44:12 Besides which, it's Peter's stanza 2013-01-16T00:44:32 ...and they both know I don't really give a damn who caused a problem, so long as it's fixed 2013-01-16T00:45:08 If you look at the cacti graph, the behaviour is just disturbingly _regular_ 2013-01-16T00:45:24 *Something* is making a decision about stuff 2013-01-16T01:25:32 [00:24:05] [1] [Samsquaanch]: invite for galleon 2013-01-16T01:25:32 [00:24:28] [1] [Samsquaanch]: is he actually up? 2013-01-16T01:25:33 [00:24:49] [1] [90:Evilpig]: you're the dipshit asking for an invite. shouldn't you know? 2013-01-16T01:39:04 *** Falun has joined #se2600 2013-01-16T01:39:27 *** Falun has left #se2600 2013-01-16T01:47:52 http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3384889&cid=42600325 lol 2013-01-16T01:47:54 Title: AMD Files Suit Against Former Employees For Alleged Document Theft - Slashdot (at yro.slashdot.org) 2013-01-16T02:37:27 *** RangerZ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-01-16T02:46:14 *** rattleXXXw has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-01-16T02:46:30 *** rattle has joined #se2600 2013-01-16T02:46:30 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o rattle 2013-01-16T03:14:48 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/01/16/developer_oursources_job_china/ 2013-01-16T03:14:49 Title: Security audit finds dev OUTSOURCED his JOB to China • The Register (at www.theregister.co.uk) 2013-01-16T04:38:18 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21029851 2013-01-16T04:38:19 Title: BBC News - In pictures: Unlicensed World of Warcraft theme park in China (at www.bbc.co.uk) 2013-01-16T06:04:52 *** LastChild has quit IRC (Quit: and the monkey flips the switch) 2013-01-16T06:17:50 *** sasquatc4 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-01-16T06:46:04 Good morning crew 2013-01-16T06:46:40 Am I the only one up? 2013-01-16T06:55:12 *** ZaDeaux has joined #se2600 2013-01-16T07:42:20 yes 2013-01-16T07:43:02 no 2013-01-16T08:17:05 *** Do|emite has joined #se2600 2013-01-16T08:17:05 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Do|emite 2013-01-16T08:17:11 mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 2013-01-16T08:18:33 Do|emite: hi friend 2013-01-16T08:18:48 Howdy, pal! 2013-01-16T08:19:04 Do|emite: What's up amigo? 2013-01-16T08:19:19 Do|emite: what evil company did you used to work for? 2013-01-16T08:19:59 Sun! 2013-01-16T08:20:05 We are currently sitting next to the sales team... they love a restaurant here named "chin-chin" and talk about it all the time. It's a chinese/Japanese place... 2013-01-16T08:20:08 Snore-acle 2013-01-16T08:20:22 Oh yeah, good thing Oracle isn't evil. 2013-01-16T08:20:26 Sorry, Sun/Oracle 2013-01-16T08:20:28 Well having lived in Japan and speaking Japanese the translation of chin-chin is 'penis' 2013-01-16T08:20:40 so all I can here is how much our sales team likes penis 2013-01-16T08:20:46 whoa. hugme spoke. 2013-01-16T08:20:52 I do that sometimes 2013-01-16T08:20:54 the_hugme: hi, how goes stuff? Still FreeBSD guy? 2013-01-16T08:21:22 Doing a lot with linux too.. but I still love freebsd 2013-01-16T08:21:42 sdodson: Some would say that I work for an evil company, now 2013-01-16T08:21:58 Do|emite: the man? 2013-01-16T08:22:07 Yep. Gub'ment 2013-01-16T08:22:17 Although technically I work for a prime contractor 2013-01-16T08:22:49 Do|emite: oh, so you work for Haliburton or GE? 2013-01-16T08:22:51 Very few people here actually work directly for the government 2013-01-16T08:22:57 UT-Battele 2013-01-16T08:24:31 The US Government contracts shit to a French sounding firm? 2013-01-16T08:24:54 It's a joint venture between the University of TN and Battele 2013-01-16T08:25:56 But just because Battelle sounds French, it doesn't make it so 2013-01-16T08:26:02 They are HQ'd in Columbus, OH 2013-01-16T08:27:29 Columbus, OH, France 2013-01-16T08:29:46 Shhhhh! 2013-01-16T08:34:02 *** CNwaV has joined #se2600 2013-01-16T08:40:49 *** stowbari has joined #se2600 2013-01-16T08:44:27 Do|emite: is that what your handlers have trained you to say? 2013-01-16T09:31:44 *** Zero-|AFK is now known as ZeroMinuS 2013-01-16T09:36:56 please hold while he locates the next part of the script to read off 2013-01-16T09:42:20 I'm looking at Spiceworks and Nagios for monitoring a heterogenous network. Anybody have suggestions for other monitoring packages I should be looking at? 2013-01-16T09:42:33 Zabbix 2013-01-16T09:45:06 How is Zabbix on Windows support? 2013-01-16T09:45:19 Yes? 2013-01-16T09:45:47 it can tell you the disk usage, memory usage, etc just like linux 2013-01-16T09:45:57 you have to specify them a little differently, but that's where templates come in 2013-01-16T09:46:41 Zabbix is primarily agent based monitoring, not snmp like nagios, but it can do snmp from the server as well 2013-01-16T09:47:05 Active scans? 2013-01-16T09:47:29 Zabbix supports auto adding systems to it's monitoring rules based on network scans 2013-01-16T09:47:35 i didn't get auto removing working when i used it 2013-01-16T09:47:42 Ah, good 2013-01-16T09:56:44 You monitor any Macs with Zabbix? 2013-01-16T09:56:50 i have not 2013-01-16T09:57:30 the agent and it's protocol are really simple, so i figure they'd have an agent for it at least 2013-01-16T09:57:39 there's an openwrt agent even 2013-01-16T09:57:44 *build of the agent for openwrt 2013-01-16T10:02:29 I'm researching using Salt to do the monitoring checks, then feed the data back to Zabbix. 2013-01-16T10:02:48 Since we're already using Salt to manage systems. 2013-01-16T10:03:29 why not just use salt to make sure the zabbix agent is installed and configured? 2013-01-16T10:03:37 and use zabbix to make sure salt is running on the system? 2013-01-16T10:04:12 That's probably what I'll do for now. 2013-01-16T10:04:18 Don't even have Zabbix running yet. 2013-01-16T10:04:48 But that's kinda duplicating a lot of Salt functionality. 2013-01-16T10:05:18 The saltmaster knows if the minion is running or not. 2013-01-16T10:05:48 http://hveem.no/salt-returner-for-carbon 2013-01-16T10:05:49 Title: salt returner for carbon (at hveem.no) 2013-01-16T10:06:35 my guess is that zabbix has better charting and notification than Salt 2013-01-16T10:06:52 email escalations, jabber, that sort of thing 2013-01-16T10:06:54 yea, for now. since salt doesn't have any charting yet. 2013-01-16T10:07:14 they're working on a web UI 2013-01-16T10:07:32 zeromq backend makes for all kinds of cool possibilties 2013-01-16T10:09:22 brimstone: salt 0.12.0 was released last night. 2013-01-16T10:09:37 zabbix 1.8.3 was just released 2013-01-16T10:10:02 brings with it the ability to pull state files from git branches. also adds a scheduler to run jobs on minions at specified intervals 2013-01-16T10:10:39 i don't know enough about salt to understand state files 2013-01-16T10:11:20 the state files are Jinja templates specifying packages to be installed, etc. 2013-01-16T10:11:42 the salt equiv of chef recipesrecipes in the chef world 2013-01-16T10:11:44 whoops 2013-01-16T10:12:09 This is the first time I've noticed timoguin works with computers, i thought you just got drizunk with ware. 2013-01-16T10:12:49 sdodson: pffffttttt 2013-01-16T10:12:53 * timoguin throws poo at sdodson 2013-01-16T10:13:01 I rarely drink. 2013-01-16T10:13:15 And when I do, I don't drink like ware does. 2013-01-16T10:13:43 interesting conversation earlier. Was going to ask the same question about monitoring software. 2013-01-16T10:13:51 Not sure if I want NetSaint again 2013-01-16T10:13:54 ware drinks? 2013-01-16T10:17:21 *** stowbari has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-01-16T10:17:56 timoguin: :-) 2013-01-16T10:19:36 brimstone: have you looked at zabbix 2 yet? 2013-01-16T10:19:51 a little, but i don't remember the major differences 2013-01-16T10:20:02 2 wasn't out when i setup the last installation, and i've not set one up since 2013-01-16T10:20:58 I gotta set it up here pretty soon 2013-01-16T10:21:01 we're doing zenoss, is it nice? 2013-01-16T10:21:25 I've heard good things from r/sysadmin about it 2013-01-16T10:21:42 *** RangerZ has joined #se2600 2013-01-16T10:22:09 Corydon76-home: brimstone: Zabbix 2 supports SNMP monitoring. 2013-01-16T10:23:25 does 1.8 not? 2013-01-16T10:23:29 i thought it did 2013-01-16T10:24:21 * timoguin shrugs 2013-01-16T10:24:42 direct SNMP trap monitoring is listed as the first new feature in the 2.0 release notes 2013-01-16T10:26:23 oh, traps 2013-01-16T10:28:29 are SNMP traps kinda the SNMP equivalent of remote syslog? 2013-01-16T10:31:55 SNMP traps are push, not poll 2013-01-16T10:32:08 so, yes? 2013-01-16T10:32:36 ITS A TRAP! 2013-01-16T10:44:47 So it doesn't a decent job of agentless monitoring then 2013-01-16T10:47:18 zabbix supports snmp polling, and apparently traps now 2013-01-16T10:47:36 it also supports simple webchecks and anything you want to write for a server side plugin, like nagios 2013-01-16T10:48:46 any in-the-box integration with a ticketing/itsm product? 2013-01-16T10:49:08 you could have it email a ticket tracker when a system goes down 2013-01-16T10:50:25 you could configure it to ping you on jabber first, then send an email if the system is still down X*(checktime) later 2013-01-16T10:53:02 considering recommending this to a colocation company. just have to check a few more feature 2013-01-16T10:58:00 doesn't zabbix also support nagios plugins? 2013-01-16T10:58:41 with the zabbix wrapper? 2013-01-16T11:02:41 *** sasquatc4 has joined #se2600 2013-01-16T11:02:42 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o sasquatc4 2013-01-16T11:07:26 *** x86Daddy has joined #se2600 2013-01-16T11:09:00 *** RangerZ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-01-16T11:14:29 man fuck zabbix 2013-01-16T11:15:39 o rly 2013-01-16T11:18:06 garbage 2013-01-16T11:22:12 whats better 2013-01-16T11:22:15 this is me with zabbix http://i.imgur.com/8MU3L.jpg 2013-01-16T11:36:04 i.e., don't listen to eryc 2013-01-16T11:38:14 that looks really uncomfortable to wear 2013-01-16T12:09:24 *** unixfg has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) 2013-01-16T12:09:35 *** unixfg has joined #se2600 2013-01-16T12:09:35 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o unixfg 2013-01-16T12:12:16 *** RangerZ has joined #se2600 2013-01-16T12:20:26 *** x86Daddy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2013-01-16T12:57:59 *** Genphlux has joined #se2600 2013-01-16T13:07:03 *** Do|emite has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2013-01-16T13:13:14 *** Genphlux` has joined #se2600 2013-01-16T13:15:58 God damn of all the lame-ass stunts 2013-01-16T13:16:51 *** Genphlux has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-01-16T13:16:57 That ignorant fucktard "smack_dat_ho" just posted a nasty little carp about android security, just to take a chance to direct more personal insults at me (he HATES that I know more about shit than he does, apparently) and fucking plagiarized a Phrack article from 2011... INCORRECTLY. 2013-01-16T13:17:12 Craigslist needs to fucking actually ban some of the shits there 2013-01-16T13:18:59 *** stowbari has joined #se2600 2013-01-16T13:19:34 https://forums.craigslist.org/?ID=226603006 2013-01-16T13:19:35 Title: forums - craigslist (at forums.craigslist.org) 2013-01-16T13:19:51 See also: http://www.phrack.org/issues.html?issue=68&id=6#article 2013-01-16T13:19:52 Title: .:: Phrack Magazine ::. (at www.phrack.org) 2013-01-16T13:19:57 Fucking pathetic. 2013-01-16T13:34:09 bwahahahaha!!! "So congratulations, old man. You've figured out how to compromise a machine using the root account. *golfclap* May I suggest the next time you attempt to take credit for someone else's work you make sure you actually understand what you're reading. " 2013-01-16T13:46:01 * frsilent saves link for later 2013-01-16T13:47:01 Literally the whole point of him posting that was apparently to throw more insults at me. 2013-01-16T13:47:14 I don't think he understands just how little I value his life. 2013-01-16T13:51:14 This is the first time it's ever been useful that the android hackers have been misnaming compromising the hardware as "rooting the phone" 2013-01-16T13:52:55 It clouds the waters *just enough* that people make mistakes like that 2013-01-16T13:55:45 people use craigslist to talk hacking? 2013-01-16T13:56:01 No, they use it for basic technical support 2013-01-16T13:56:25 CL is far more useful for obtaining anonymous sex 2013-01-16T13:56:35 *** stowbari has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2013-01-16T13:56:46 This was just a jackass who does nothing but insult people, engage in pedantics, and troll, trying to use someone else's work in Phrack as a thinly-veiled excuse for engaging in more personal attacks. 2013-01-16T13:56:47 More satisfying, too 2013-01-16T13:57:01 Speaking of which... fucking ATT forced the software update on my HTC One X and broke some of my shit. 2013-01-16T13:57:09 Literally, that's all the guy ever does. He posts a bunch of pompous shit pretending to know things and be in charge of stuff, and insults everyone. 2013-01-16T13:57:18 I'd like to see CL ban his ass 2013-01-16T13:57:27 * oddball needs to see if anyone has figured out a lasting root method for the new version. 2013-01-16T13:57:38 ...but regardless of what they claim, Craigslist is not actually moderated. 2013-01-16T13:58:18 * frsilent can't help but feel Dagmar might have some responsibility in this....at least in expecting mature logical opponents on CL 2013-01-16T13:58:21 Community moderating? Get enough negative votes on a post to remove it? 2013-01-16T13:58:44 If it wasn't moderated, shit wouldn't get taken down for being inappropriate. It's just the their idea of what's appropriate is fucked. 2013-01-16T13:58:57 Corydon76-home: The neg votes don't do *anything* 2013-01-16T13:59:03 They're just for decoration. 2013-01-16T13:59:07 Not individually, no 2013-01-16T13:59:17 Not individually, not collectively, not abstractly. 2013-01-16T13:59:20 They do *nothing*. 2013-01-16T13:59:28 This dude would have been gone a long time ago if they did. 2013-01-16T13:59:30 Post an add for a perfectly legal gun sale? Moderators take that shit down. Post an ad for illegal prostitution? Nothing to see here. 2013-01-16T13:59:30 But then again, the forum posts might not be moderated, as compared to the ad postings 2013-01-16T13:59:49 I had a debit card hijacked last week. Was a physical swipe. Interesting part is that the criminal eventually used it at an "pay with your phone" gas pump. www.cumberlandfarms.com has an actual iPhone/Andriod app allowing you to pay with your phone. Must be pretty easy to process a number/zip through their app to pay for some gas. 2013-01-16T13:59:52 oddball: it's all based upon the number of negative votes it gets 2013-01-16T13:59:55 The only way to get content removed is to report it and wait for a moderator to do something. 2013-01-16T14:00:29 For the sex forums, few people read through those often enough to consistently flag the prostitution ads 2013-01-16T14:01:21 I flag them when I see them, and they're usually gone within 15 minutes 2013-01-16T14:01:51 That would mean someone's personally monitoring the queue for that 2013-01-16T14:02:01 Spam reported in the Linux forum is there for hours on end. 2013-01-16T14:02:04 Corydon76-home: If you ask them about the gun ad being taken down (which, if you search through their rules that are only linked to in forum discussions, they are banned and it's their right to do so...) they call you a "fucking baby killer" and other nice terms, on the other hand, the Craigslist folks have actively fought to protect people's rights to advertise illegal businesses like prostitution on their site. 2013-01-16T14:02:06 But CL runs on a skeleton staff. Everything is automated. 2013-01-16T14:02:34 Then more folks are flagging that than you think 2013-01-16T14:02:51 oddball: No they have not 2013-01-16T14:03:04 They have categorically *not* fought to retain ads for prostitution 2013-01-16T14:03:17 They've been aggressively removing those for ages. 2013-01-16T14:03:34 Oddball: the reason CL fought to keep the section for prostitution is that it kept most of them from posting in other (inappropriate) forums 2013-01-16T14:03:38 I destinctly remember a piece on NPR that said the opposite. 2013-01-16T14:03:55 The only people who have been claiming otherwise that I'm aware of are that shill of a DA who was trying to make a name for himself, and ignoring everyone that said "BACKPAGE DOT COM, MOTHERFUCKER. THAT'S WHERE THE HOOKERS ARE." 2013-01-16T14:04:12 They have a bunch of LMTs on Craigslist. 2013-01-16T14:04:20 oddball: and the euphemism for it was "Adult Services" 2013-01-16T14:04:22 Someone advertising prostitution gets das boot 2013-01-16T14:04:45 Sorry... I wasn't using the exact term. 2013-01-16T14:04:57 They rounded them up into AS before they tossed the category to get them out of all the other sections 2013-01-16T14:05:22 That's what the idiots got taken down off of CL, and that's why the other (casual sex) forums have prostitution in them. 2013-01-16T14:05:47 Dagmar: exactly 2013-01-16T14:05:49 lol... Dagmar that smack_dat_ho is clearly at best a skiddie. But it's what I'd expect from 99.9% of CL forum users 2013-01-16T14:06:13 Give them a space for their illegal activity, and you can monitor them there, instead of making them pollute other categories 2013-01-16T14:07:19 Now you have to watch out for people asking for "roses" in the casual sex category 2013-01-16T14:07:34 Usually spelled "ro$e$' 2013-01-16T14:08:30 frsilent: The main problem is that the dude is basically rabid 2013-01-16T14:09:01 I don't generally tell people things like "SHUT YOUR HOLE, OLD MAN" on forums, but that's still not getting through to this guy. 2013-01-16T14:09:47 Watch him turn out to be a 14yo MS junkie 2013-01-16T14:09:53 *** oddball has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2013-01-16T14:10:08 I don't think he's 14. If he is, he's doing a good job of copypasta on a lot of stuff 2013-01-16T14:10:29 I think he's some dude who was going by the name 'Meg' who used to work at Kodak, until he got fired for being a giant cock to his coworkers. 2013-01-16T14:10:32 He seems to have a lot of time on his hands, which is typical of teenagers 2013-01-16T14:10:38 *** Genphlux` is now known as Genphlux 2013-01-16T14:11:05 The same MO all around. Talking shit about how he's in charge of hiring, next moment he's a consultant, then more complete bullshit about things he did in the 80's 2013-01-16T14:11:18 ...not realizing of course that SOME OF US were also around in the fucking 80's. 2013-01-16T14:11:27 I manage a team of teenagers, and the shit they stir up 2013-01-16T14:11:37 kill a few of them and the rest will fall in line 2013-01-16T14:11:37 *** oddball has joined #se2600 2013-01-16T14:11:59 I just had to chop off one of their hands with a hatchet 2013-01-16T14:12:30 He was obtaining the passwords of senior staff and snooping. 2013-01-16T14:12:45 Damnit... hopefully that UPS battery will arrive today. 2013-01-16T14:13:01 Dagmar: sharing that quote with my coworkers lol 2013-01-16T14:29:56 goddamn it i have to read the man page for tar now 2013-01-16T14:32:28 Actually, fuck it 2013-01-16T14:32:47 The people in question would have NO idea what to do with a multi-part tar archive 2013-01-16T14:35:07 Holy shit! I got spam from a gun parts website *advertising* milspec AR-15 magazines for $129.97. Those things were going for around $12 in November. 2013-01-16T14:35:15 *** x86Daddy has joined #se2600 2013-01-16T14:37:28 lol 2013-01-16T14:40:33 ...and we're sure direputable gun dealers aren't behind all this anti-gun talk in politics? 2013-01-16T14:40:41 I mean, if you follow the money, that's where it's going. 2013-01-16T14:42:00 *** aestetix_ is now known as aestetix 2013-01-16T14:42:03 At least the people running adult bookstores didn't engage in profiteering when Georgia banned rubber dicks. 2013-01-16T14:43:00 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o aestetix 2013-01-16T14:44:23 Well, considering New York just essentially banned most semi-auto pistols and rifles... 2013-01-16T14:44:54 It's New York but CLEARLY Obama is to blame for it! 2013-01-16T14:45:35 And Obama has come out multiple times (including today) stating that he wants to re-instate and expand the assault weapons ban. 2013-01-16T14:45:51 It isn't much of an expansion 2013-01-16T14:46:33 Shifting from 2 "evil features" to one means that many of the rifles used in the Olympics would be banned. 2013-01-16T14:47:29 So point that out 2013-01-16T14:47:32 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o oddball 2013-01-16T14:47:50 I have been using that as a talking point. 2013-01-16T14:48:45 neat 2013-01-16T14:49:34 Just about all of the evil features (most notably rifles with pistol grips and adjustable shoulder stocks) have become popular with modern rifles because they add comfort to the shooter, and therefor increase the accuracy of the rifle. 2013-01-16T14:49:57 bah... sorry... I'll stop ranting about this. 2013-01-16T14:54:31 We tried an outright ban of alcohol and marijuana, and those bans worked just as well to keep people from obtaining them... 2013-01-16T14:54:49 yep 2013-01-16T14:54:56 Obviously, nobody drank alcohol during Prohibition. 2013-01-16T14:59:45 heh 2013-01-16T15:09:01 well, i mean, I didn't. 2013-01-16T15:20:16 that's a sufficient sample size for me 2013-01-16T15:21:59 *** stowbari has joined #se2600 2013-01-16T15:31:24 *** rhia has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-01-16T15:44:18 *** rhia has joined #se2600 2013-01-16T15:44:19 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o rhia 2013-01-16T16:10:42 *** scribbles has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-01-16T16:11:08 *** scribbles has joined #se2600 2013-01-16T16:25:11 wow... of the 23 executive actions signed today in response to the Sandy Hook incident, only one would have prevented Sandy Hook.... Putting resource officers in schools... and that was suggested by the NRA.... 2013-01-16T16:38:27 Um, Columbine had an in-the-building resource officer. 2013-01-16T16:38:33 Just sayin' 2013-01-16T16:41:13 Dagmar: Why do you argue with retards? 2013-01-16T16:41:41 Just glancing at that thread it's obvious he has a 1-inch dick he's compensating for. 2013-01-16T16:41:46 the columbine officer was not in the building... 2013-01-16T16:42:27 iirc, he was a total pussy and never entered the building until it was over 2013-01-16T16:42:28 Bahhumbug: I can't get past this doyle dude has no chin. 2013-01-16T16:42:34 he's nearly beaker 2013-01-16T16:42:49 he starts talking and all I hear now is meep meep meep 2013-01-16T16:43:04 That's not the point. The point is that an on-site resource officer is not going to do jack or shit about someone that's motivated enough to walk into a building full of _children_ with automatic weapons. 2013-01-16T16:43:32 wilpig: heh 2013-01-16T16:43:48 does the resource officer keep inventory of extra pencils? 2013-01-16T16:44:10 in my experience resource officers just hold kids til cops show up 2013-01-16T16:45:07 you've been resourced before? 2013-01-16T16:46:03 the only schools that i went to that had resource officers.... they were actual LEOs\ 2013-01-16T16:46:47 Yeah, most are. 2013-01-16T16:46:51 Still, not the point. 2013-01-16T16:47:01 Sidearm versus deranged shitbag with an ar-15. 2013-01-16T16:47:15 Can he get a lucky shot in? Sure. Is it likely? No. 2013-01-16T16:47:55 (I am a firm proponent of second amendment rights, so anyone that rags at me for being a gun-hating liberal can blow me) 2013-01-16T16:48:17 i just want bear arms 2013-01-16T16:48:24 imagine the jars i could open 2013-01-16T16:49:54 brimstone: I used to work in k-12 schools regularly. most the resource officer was just a posting for the local police dept. in several it was just like a rent a cop type dude that could hold kids til the real cops showed up 2013-01-16T16:50:11 ah 2013-01-16T16:50:21 I was always surprised at the need for having a full time presence on site. some of those kids are real shits 2013-01-16T16:51:02 the resource officer was often the truancy officer too 2013-01-16T16:51:54 i can tell you one thing... if someone is poorly trained on the firearm they are using, they are at a great disadvantage to someone that is properly trained.... i understand that the ar15 has a higher mag capacity of the glock model 22 that most cops carry... but training does matter... i can attest to that as someone that has engaged in combat with a force superior in numbers, superior in caliber/kinetic energy delivered to target, but not properly trained... 2013-01-16T16:52:18 Out here the term is TRO - Truancy Resource Officer. 2013-01-16T16:52:41 Which is pointless when the courts refuse to hear cases on repeat truants and their parents. 2013-01-16T16:53:24 yeah... i think they should just send those kids their walking papers and an application to work at mcdonalds... 2013-01-16T16:53:52 don't you need a HS diploma or ged to even work at mcdonalds now? 2013-01-16T16:54:03 ...and give their parents a "i raised a fucking idiot" bumper sticker... or maybe a "my underachiever son serves fries to your honor student" 2013-01-16T16:54:09 Wife works in a k-5 elementary out here. At that age it's the parent's fault. 2013-01-16T16:54:18 Nothing gets done. 2013-01-16T16:54:24 In middle school. Nothing gets done., 2013-01-16T16:54:30 In high school. Nothing gets done. 2013-01-16T16:54:44 And people wonder why the drop rates are so high. 2013-01-16T16:55:41 vagina 2013-01-16T16:55:51 if you drop out of high school.... you should not be eligible for any sort of government benefits/handouts 2013-01-16T16:56:07 at that point it's you own damn fault that your life sucks 2013-01-16T16:56:14 if you drop out to get a job to support your family? 2013-01-16T16:57:00 too fucking bad... 2013-01-16T16:57:21 someone shouldnt let their shitbag family drag them down like that 2013-01-16T16:59:02 drop out it is your choice... but the government provided you with an opportunity at an education... one that would allow you to provide for yourself... they say f that... drop out and then want money cause they cant support themselves... that's bs... 2013-01-16T16:59:23 we need to stop holding people hands all the damn time... 2013-01-16T16:59:26 this dude really needs a chin 2013-01-16T17:00:37 ...and for that matter... college needs to be a shit ton cheaper... this artifically inflated tuition epidemic that we have going on is redic 2013-01-16T17:00:50 CNwaV: It's not a black and white issue. You are speaking in generalities and life doesn't really work that way. 2013-01-16T17:00:51 if you feed a tiger every day from birth... how the hell are you gonna expect it to feed itself in the wild... 2013-01-16T17:00:54 FREE MARKET 2013-01-16T17:00:59 * Dickie hits CNwaV with a chair 2013-01-16T17:01:17 I do concur on the college cost statements, however. 100%. 2013-01-16T17:01:25 in my land it does... i made the right decisions to be able to provide for myself 2013-01-16T17:01:35 This isn't your land :) 2013-01-16T17:01:54 THIS LAND IS MY LAND 2013-01-16T17:01:55 Unless you reside in the independent country of CNwaV. 2013-01-16T17:02:09 And if so, I'm going to come invade and take it over :) 2013-01-16T17:02:10 https://www.google.com/search?q=allan+hawco 2013-01-16T17:02:11 Title: allan hawco - Google Search (at www.google.com) 2013-01-16T17:02:17 it is now... i ahve just declared myself supreme leader... i have disbanded congress and the supreme court.... 2013-01-16T17:02:27 wilpig: Really, get over the chin thing - it's creepy :) 2013-01-16T17:02:32 haha, have fun trying to take over my land :D 2013-01-16T17:02:40 my land can be very hostile 2013-01-16T17:02:42 Is that ...flirting? 2013-01-16T17:02:47 maybe 2013-01-16T17:02:55 http://www.cbc.ca/nl/blogs/whatodds/allan-hawco-2009.jpg exhibit a 2013-01-16T17:02:56 Because if you need "liberating", I know a guy 2013-01-16T17:03:28 sorry everyone... CNwaV is being pissy today... 2013-01-16T17:03:56 alright, i gotta head to the bar... it's tech after 5 night! 2013-01-16T17:04:22 gonna get up and make something to eat before work 2013-01-16T17:09:42 *** CNwaV has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2013-01-16T17:15:47 *** Dickie has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2013-01-16T17:29:31 *** Dickie has joined #se2600 2013-01-16T17:29:31 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Dickie 2013-01-16T17:32:52 http://www.thotcon.org/ 2013-01-16T17:32:53 Title: THOTCON - Chicago's Hacking Conference (at www.thotcon.org) 2013-01-16T17:32:54 thoughts? 2013-01-16T17:40:52 slightly better name than twatcon 2013-01-16T17:43:23 whens that 2013-01-16T18:01:08 april 26th 2013-01-16T18:02:13 *** Genphlux has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2013-01-16T18:28:23 *** x86Daddy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2013-01-16T18:33:35 *** Bahhumbug has quit IRC (Quit: Learn where everything you take for granted on a daily basis in IT originated from: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=4BFC3F13B846707B) 2013-01-16T19:03:05 *** Bahhumbug has joined #se2600 2013-01-16T19:03:05 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Bahhumbug 2013-01-16T19:27:27 well, at least it's not at the same time as notacon this year 2013-01-16T20:20:55 I'm supposed to goto notacon 2013-01-16T20:22:04 *** RangerZ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2013-01-16T20:28:35 *** sasquatc4 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-01-16T20:29:02 fucking incompetence around here 2013-01-16T20:34:04 Dagmar: ping 2013-01-16T20:39:17 *** sasquatc4 has joined #se2600 2013-01-16T20:39:17 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o sasquatc4 2013-01-16T20:50:34 *** LastChild has joined #se2600 2013-01-16T20:50:34 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o LastChild 2013-01-16T21:02:02 oi 2013-01-16T21:02:36 so I know you can fix the ldap problem but you aren't allowed... the politics in this place baffle me 2013-01-16T21:02:44 took 45 min to get directory services to call back 2013-01-16T21:02:57 to get the answer of "well i'm an hour from home right now. i'll call you back" 2013-01-16T21:03:07 I *can* but I can't guarantee that it's not going to trample their debugging data 2013-01-16T21:03:29 ...becuse those ninnies had the thing set up to dump about 2.5Gb of shit into /tmp 2013-01-16T21:03:47 btw check the task manager for diamond ip again 2013-01-16T21:04:00 *** ZaDeaux has quit IRC () 2013-01-16T21:04:30 It's fine 2013-01-16T21:04:36 nm the check just can't complete 2013-01-16T21:05:01 I'm going into the back now so I can ignore the stupid in this place for a while 2013-01-16T21:05:38 wtf is up with that check 2013-01-16T21:10:30 well i'm gonna ack it. I really dont' want to open a ticket on it even though I should 2013-01-16T21:10:42 ffs it's taking it MANY seconds to complete 2013-01-16T21:10:50 30.556s 2013-01-16T21:11:39 damnit what the hell are thiose people doing 2013-01-16T21:12:06 related to the "security scan" that just started within the last 30 min? 2013-01-16T21:12:52 nm should only effect the testfw 2013-01-16T21:13:35 wtf 2013-01-16T21:13:44 The script itself has a mtime of Jan 14th 2013-01-16T21:16:48 Well, the good news is that it's _Julie's_ check 2013-01-16T21:17:13 She got very pissed off about me changing it to work properly, yelled at me, and tried to tell management I was misusing role accounts 2013-01-16T21:17:14 So fuck her 2013-01-16T21:17:18 She can fix it 2013-01-16T21:18:08 It's spending literally all that time waiting on the response from sqlplus 2013-01-16T21:18:17 definitely *all* ms. catellier's problme 2013-01-16T21:18:58 damnit. don't tell me shit like that. cause then I have to open a ticket on it 2013-01-16T21:19:12 No, please *do* open a ticket on it 2013-01-16T21:19:23 This particular check is her baby 2013-01-16T21:19:28 She's fixing the fucking thing 2013-01-16T21:20:04 I kid you not she told Sundarum that I was using vunetid accounts for purposes other than what they were meant for. 2013-01-16T21:20:43 In a serious enough way that he called me into his office to inquire politely about the accusation, since there had been that little issue in the past and he knew I know very well where the line into felony-space is 2013-01-16T21:21:46 *** damascushead has joined #se2600 2013-01-16T21:21:47 I have no idea what she must have changed in there on the 14th, although I'm tempted to pull a copy from the backup servers and find out 2013-01-16T21:23:09 ...and it's looking like right *at* 8:00pm something on that db server changed that's making it take almost 30 seconds exactly to respond. 2013-01-16T21:23:34 I've run the thing with time bash -x six times now. Every time, 30s plus about a half second 2013-01-16T21:23:55 Way past the ten seconds Nagios checks are allowed to take 2013-01-16T21:28:49 *** RangerZ has joined #se2600 2013-01-16T21:40:28 Pro. Oracle has a process pegged at 100% on that machine. 2013-01-16T21:40:45 That may or may not be DIP tho 2013-01-16T22:24:14 Nope. That wasn't it 2013-01-16T22:24:21 All julie's problem. Wheeee 2013-01-16T22:41:39 vagina 2013-01-16T23:03:04 aestetix: You saw today's Penny Arcade, I take it? 2013-01-16T23:19:46 *** oddball has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2013-01-16T23:33:08 *** oddball has joined #se2600 2013-01-16T23:37:25 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o oddball 2013-01-16T23:37:36 ah... the beeping has ceased. :) 2013-01-16T23:37:58 happy battery level now? 2013-01-16T23:37:59 *** stowbari has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-01-16T23:38:20 Yep. New battery came in today. 2013-01-16T23:39:35 Bit more expensive than I was expecting, but it's one of APC's larger capacity UPSs before you get into either the rack mountables or ones that confused for tower computers. 2013-01-16T23:39:44 (smart UPS 1500) 2013-01-16T23:43:58 Impresive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT1gdAetZn0 2013-01-16T23:43:59 Title: BITE THE HAND | MODESTEP | CHIBI - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 2013-01-16T23:55:15 Scoliosis doesn't have a chance against that guy 2013-01-16T23:55:35 I couldn't figure out if he was a midget or what at first 2013-01-16T23:56:00 I was looking for a battle between he and M. Scott. 2013-01-16T23:56:15 I am not in the least surprised to find out he, Scott, and iGlide work together 2013-01-16T23:56:42 Too much talent in one place.