2013-01-08T00:01:51 In the event that anyone cares. EL5.9 is about to drop. They are pushing post-drop errata out for it already and I've seen BZ tickets being closed down. 2013-01-08T00:02:14 EL? 2013-01-08T00:02:21 Enterprise Liscene I imagine 2013-01-08T00:02:38 RHEL 2013-01-08T00:02:43 *** LastChild has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T00:02:43 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o LastChild 2013-01-08T00:02:45 close 2013-01-08T00:03:03 Hmm... We need to get back in between those 2013-01-08T00:03:33 Meh. Maybe I can push for us to speed up the next stable point in our repos 2013-01-08T00:05:50 6.4 should be out this month or early Feb unless they find something stupid to block it. 2013-01-08T00:25:08 *** sasquatc3 has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T00:25:09 *** sasquatc4 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-01-08T00:25:09 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o sasquatc3 2013-01-08T00:35:17 hahaha 2013-01-08T00:36:03 "@RobDenBleyker Need relationship advice! I'm trying to get my wife into role playing but she gets really upset when I suggest she be played by Emma Stone." 2013-01-08T00:58:02 *** sync350 has quit IRC (Quit: wtfsleepomg) 2013-01-08T01:05:41 alright off to get some dinner. bbiab 2013-01-08T01:10:02 *** opticron_ has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T01:14:50 *** opticron has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2013-01-08T01:35:29 I can sit at my desk and hit the portal outside the hill center. 2013-01-08T02:37:50 boy that really drains the battery 2013-01-08T02:58:46 *** sync|Win8 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2013-01-08T03:03:21 *** sync350 has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T03:03:21 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o sync350 2013-01-08T03:08:45 LOL I just saw virgil on tv 2013-01-08T03:09:34 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3PPn0ADkUo 2013-01-08T03:09:35 Title: King of the Nerds - Meet the Contestants - Virgil - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 2013-01-08T03:15:58 *** sync350 has quit IRC (Quit: Screw you guys, I'm goin home) 2013-01-08T04:31:03 *** oddball has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-01-08T04:32:17 *** oddball has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T05:02:07 delete: working. cancel: working. save: ... 2013-01-08T05:20:09 *** Bahhumbug_ has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T05:20:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Bahhumbug_ 2013-01-08T05:22:49 *** Bahhumbug has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2013-01-08T05:30:26 GAH! 2013-01-08T05:43:20 *** Bahhumbug_ is now known as Bahhumbug 2013-01-08T06:16:39 *** LastChild has quit IRC (Quit: and the monkey flips the switch) 2013-01-08T07:28:14 *** Do|emite has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T07:28:14 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Do|emite 2013-01-08T07:28:20 mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 2013-01-08T07:39:10 I left you goodies in git 2013-01-08T07:55:19 I like goodies 2013-01-08T07:56:06 *** phaile has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-01-08T08:00:15 these goodies are full of nasty bugs. I was gonna squish em but I got lazy at the end 2013-01-08T08:09:48 *** Zero-|Work has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T08:12:52 *** opticron_ is now known as opticron 2013-01-08T08:14:00 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o opticron 2013-01-08T08:43:29 *** CNwaV has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T08:43:52 Man, NVidia's new Project Shield looks pretty freakin' awesome 2013-01-08T08:45:54 Do|emite: people were all lolz about it last night 2013-01-08T08:46:17 Bahhumbug: yay 2013-01-08T08:46:18 Why for the lolz? 2013-01-08T08:46:39 Do|emite: dunno mang 2013-01-08T08:47:08 Bahhumbug: when does 7.0 release? 2013-01-08T09:09:15 You tell me. You work there :) 2013-01-08T09:11:04 Dagmar: ping 2013-01-08T09:51:34 *** Genphlux has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T10:30:10 who's virgil? 2013-01-08T10:37:15 *** rattle has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2013-01-08T10:43:11 *** rattle has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T10:43:11 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o rattle 2013-01-08T10:47:14 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 2013-01-08T10:53:47 wilpig: wow that show makes me want to puke 2013-01-08T10:53:53 but I may watch it just to see virgil :p 2013-01-08T10:54:24 what was his thing 2013-01-08T10:54:30 the name sounds familiar 2013-01-08T10:55:36 RomanPoet was the name he appeared under for the program 2013-01-08T10:58:01 *** x86Daddy has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T11:00:35 He wrote wikiscanner, which I think is what he spoke about at PN 2013-01-08T11:01:01 bwahahaha 2013-01-08T11:01:07 "Anyone can suggest me a website for decoding 3DES?" 2013-01-08T11:01:14 This from an Ingress noob 2013-01-08T11:01:28 and a crypto noob 2013-01-08T11:03:34 *** Genphlux has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2013-01-08T11:04:14 Where do I clix to hack your website? 2013-01-08T11:04:24 www.hackingress.com 2013-01-08T11:07:44 Do|emite: thanks 2013-01-08T11:08:11 speaking of 3DES, i was explaining to someone the other day that private ssh keys are encrypted if you assign a passphrase 2013-01-08T11:08:15 He was also half of the duo that was served the restraining order by Blackboard 2013-01-08T11:08:20 apparently that encryption is 3DES 2013-01-08T11:08:30 isn't that kind of weaksauce? 2013-01-08T11:08:42 Do|emite: ah thats where i know him 2013-01-08T11:08:43 No. Sheesh 2013-01-08T11:09:08 i thought distributed.net cracked 3des 2013-01-08T11:09:12 Good luck finding rainbow tables on a fucking number that long 2013-01-08T11:09:22 No, it cracked _DES_, not 3DES. 2013-01-08T11:09:27 oh ok 2013-01-08T11:09:33 well why isn't it AES256 2013-01-08T11:09:38 Keyspace on 3DES is still way too fuckin' large 2013-01-08T11:09:53 not for TLA 2013-01-08T11:10:07 Not for who? 2013-01-08T11:10:37 three letter acronym 2013-01-08T11:10:52 Well then feel free to ask ol' three letter about it 2013-01-08T11:11:17 well why don't we use 3DES for things like Lastpass and Keypass 2013-01-08T11:11:25 if its so great 2013-01-08T11:11:34 why does anyone bother with AES? 2013-01-08T11:12:25 For fuck's sake, man. Use your head. 2013-01-08T11:12:40 Do you think these people who write these apps are also writing the crypto libraries they use? 2013-01-08T11:12:44 use your head to crack trip des 2013-01-08T11:13:02 Fuck no they're grabbing a library written by someone that knows what they're doing 2013-01-08T11:13:45 It doesn't much matter what the fuck they use, so long as it's sufficiently effective for the task 2013-01-08T11:15:19 So, fuck whether or not a TLA could crack it--which is still unclear--because at that level a TLA would just send some guys 'round with a van, and proceed to deploy the "beat your skull with a lead pipe until cracks happen" attack 2013-01-08T11:17:49 apparently this was already discussed and my idea was implemented 2013-01-08T11:17:52 https://bugzilla.mindrot.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1550 2013-01-08T11:17:57 Title: Bug 1550 Move from 3DES to AES-256 for private key encryption (at bugzilla.mindrot.org) 2013-01-08T11:18:05 *eyeroll* 2013-01-08T11:19:03 3DES is weak, it only has 80bits of effective bits of security 2013-01-08T11:24:16 That's nice, dear. 2013-01-08T11:24:36 Please define "weak" in absolute terms. 2013-01-08T11:26:00 weak as in, if you visit China or the US and they image your laptop at customs, you don't have to generate a new ssh key each time. 2013-01-08T11:26:09 Wrong. 2013-01-08T11:26:58 That's even wrong in more ways than one. 2013-01-08T11:28:48 If your shit leaves your possession, you can pretty much just go ahead and assume they installed something on it. 2013-01-08T11:28:59 Worrying about your crypt is too fuckin' late at that point. 2013-01-08T11:29:30 If they plug shit into your shit at the level necessary to image the equipment, same result. 2013-01-08T11:30:08 oh you must be one of those people who doesn't put a passphrase on your ssh key 2013-01-08T11:30:28 No, I'm one of those people who actually knows what the fuck I'm talking about instead of assuming a 5 minute Google search will explain everything to them. 2013-01-08T11:30:54 pretty sure you don't really know what you're talking about 2013-01-08T11:30:55 There were reasons to use AES which have nothing to do with the stuff you've been talking about. 2013-01-08T11:31:08 Just because they changed over to AES doesn't mean you are actually right. 2013-01-08T11:31:25 You might as well be arguing that firefighters put out fires because fire causes cancer. 2013-01-08T11:35:11 ...and frankly, pretty much any time someone uses crypto for the wrong reasons, they've probably failed in some way even more sinister than using XOR-255. 2013-01-08T11:38:42 ...like relying on crypto to protect you from being redacted, for one thing 2013-01-08T11:39:05 Good example of "shit ain't easy": http://crypto.stackexchange.com/questions/2060/why-do-we-use-encrypt-decrypt-encrypt-ede-in-3des-rather-than-encrypting-thre 2013-01-08T11:39:07 Title: encryption - Why do we use encrypt-decrypt-encrypt (EDE) in 3DES, rather than encrypting three times? - Cryptography Beta - Stack Exchange (at crypto.stackexchange.com) 2013-01-08T11:39:42 3DES being computationally expensive is actually not in it's favor. 2013-01-08T11:40:41 ...but the shit you see mentioned in that post highlights some of the things 3DES _can_ be used for, and was designed to be used for, which we are currently not doing much of. 2013-01-08T11:41:13 It not being used is not because it is "weak" it's because AES is a better fit for what they're doing. 2013-01-08T11:41:56 ...and if you're wondering why I'm grumpy-sounding it's because of all the stuff I just had to go look up to find that and type in here about. 2013-01-08T11:44:31 http://www.tropsoft.com/strongenc/des3.html 2013-01-08T11:44:33 Title: Strong Encryption Package, Triple DES Encryption (at www.tropsoft.com) 2013-01-08T11:44:51 In 1998 the Electronic Frontier Foundation, using a specially developed computer called the DES Cracker, managed to break DES in less than 3 days. And this was done for under $250,000. The encryption chip that powered the DES Cracker was capable of processing 88 billion keys per second. In addition, it has been shown that for a cost of one million dollars a dedicated hardware device can be built that can search all possible DES keys in about 3.5 hou 2013-01-08T11:45:14 Okay, tell me why I shouldn't smack you for continuing to not notice that 3DES != DES? 2013-01-08T11:45:19 that was 15 years ago and 3DES is just three DESs stacked together 2013-01-08T11:45:26 It ain't that fuckin' simple, man 2013-01-08T11:45:33 Even the link I posted mentions that. 2013-01-08T11:45:46 seems likely you could build a ASIC to crack 3DES pretty easily with an FPGA on today's hardware 2013-01-08T11:49:14 https://engineering.purdue.edu/kak/compsec/NewLectures/Lecture9.pdf 2013-01-08T11:49:20 Keep reading motherfucker 2013-01-08T11:49:27 This isn't simple shit. 2013-01-08T11:51:16 yea clearly someone who uses perl and shell scripts to demonstrate their theories is someone i should hold in high regard 2013-01-08T12:10:14 Yes, clearly you know more about crypto than everyone else on the internet. Good work. 2013-01-08T12:11:45 right, well the internet has collectively abandoned 3DES and moved everything to AES 2013-01-08T12:12:21 but, clearly you know more abount crypto than everyone else on the internet 2013-01-08T12:12:34 perhaps you should tell them to stop and go back to 3DES 2013-01-08T12:17:51 That's your assessment, not mine. 2013-01-08T12:18:15 I am actually aware that not all crypto is suitable for all purposes. 2013-01-08T12:20:00 I am also aware that " i thought distributed.net cracked 3des" shows a lack of reading. 2013-01-08T12:21:39 *** x86Daddy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-01-08T12:22:42 eryc: I'm sure you could do 3DES in minutes with modern hardware, probably hours with modern general purpose CPUs. 2013-01-08T12:22:59 lol 2013-01-08T12:23:06 hey 2013-01-08T12:23:18 the point isn't reading, it's winning internet arguments 2013-01-08T12:23:30 brimstone: I disagree. 2013-01-08T12:23:40 you're both wrong 2013-01-08T12:23:41 timoguin: that's ok as long as i'm winning 2013-01-08T12:23:48 brimstone: but you're not 2013-01-08T12:24:02 I just came to congratulate Bahhumbug on predicting RHEL 5.9 release. Which I was apparently blocking timely release of. 2013-01-08T12:24:26 I certainly got a double-fuckload of errate in my mailbox this morning. 2013-01-08T12:24:28 yay 5.9 2013-01-08T12:24:33 s/errate/errata/ 2013-01-08T12:24:53 Someone at ops could probably use a sport drink right about now 2013-01-08T12:25:23 5.9 fixes some stuff I care about so i'm happy 2013-01-08T12:25:40 namely my jboss stuff works better in virtualized environments 2013-01-08T12:26:34 Anyway, when I got in today there were a lot of ZOMG HALP HALP e-mails 2013-01-08T12:29:02 <@Dagmar> I am also aware that " i thought distributed.net cracked 3des" shows a lack of reading. 2013-01-08T12:29:17 you're right, i made the unfair assumption that distributed.net was relevant anymore. 2013-01-08T12:30:07 eryc: zomg we're so relevant 2013-01-08T12:30:16 eryc: and it was a joint collaboration with distributed.net 2013-01-08T12:32:48 seti@home is probably more relevant than distributed.. crackpots who care about aliens are in high supply. 2013-01-08T12:33:04 spare cpu cycles are used for bitcoin now 2013-01-08T12:42:52 eryc: distributed.net does OGR which is used in a lot of practical things 2013-01-08T12:43:15 BITCOIN MANG 2013-01-08T12:43:41 eryc: no one uses general purpose computers for bitcoin 2013-01-08T12:43:49 oh snap! 2013-01-08T12:43:57 eryc: even graphics cards are falling out of fashion with bitcoin nutters 2013-01-08T12:44:07 what they using now? 2013-01-08T12:44:09 BRO, DO YOU EVEN MINE 2013-01-08T12:44:14 fpga and aspi nigga! 2013-01-08T12:44:16 eryc: some ASIC 2013-01-08T12:44:20 sheeeeit 2013-01-08T12:44:22 asic that is 2013-01-08T12:44:26 sdodson: no one's shipping ASICs 2013-01-08T12:44:33 still gpu and fgpas 2013-01-08T12:44:35 yet! 2013-01-08T12:44:53 http://www.butterflylabs.com/ 2013-01-08T12:44:54 yeah, apparently "Marth" is the new target ship date for most of them 2013-01-08T12:44:55 Title: Bitcoin Mining Hardware - ASIC Bitcoin Miner - Butterfly Labs (at www.butterflylabs.com) 2013-01-08T12:44:56 yay chinese new year 2013-01-08T12:45:02 well you build the "asic" on the fpga and then build the real asic based on that design 2013-01-08T12:45:09 sdodson: BFL isn't shipping 2013-01-08T12:45:24 brimstone: oh, didn't know you were pro bitcoin miner 2013-01-08T12:45:40 l33t pro here 2013-01-08T12:45:51 brimstone: don't get bitcoin lung 2013-01-08T12:46:06 i don't inhale, it's ok 2013-01-08T12:46:17 brimstone: It's when you die from too many hair folicles from your neckbeard being inhaled 2013-01-08T12:46:24 FACES OF BITCOIN 2013-01-08T12:46:32 thanks for reminding me i can't grow a beard 2013-01-08T12:46:41 jerk 2013-01-08T12:46:45 side burn 2013-01-08T12:47:00 see what i did thar! 2013-01-08T12:47:06 zing! 2013-01-08T13:02:15 brimstone: me either, i end up with neck beard 2013-01-08T13:02:31 srsly em-bar-ass-in 2013-01-08T13:02:45 i just get 5 o'clock shadow, forever 2013-01-08T13:45:30 I like how what and waffles is blocked at work but PTP and TC aren't 2013-01-08T13:45:59 by like, I mean I'm annoied 2013-01-08T13:46:19 annoyed 2013-01-08T13:47:56 *** rattle has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2013-01-08T13:49:46 *** rattle has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T13:49:46 *** rattle has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T13:49:46 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o rattle 2013-01-08T14:46:22 *** Do|emite has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2013-01-08T15:00:54 *** rattle has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-01-08T15:03:12 *** rattle has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T15:03:12 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o rattle 2013-01-08T15:08:41 sdodson: Nothing to really predict when they shout it from the hilltops with https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-0006.html that proceeded the post-5.9 drop errata by a couple hours :) 2013-01-08T15:08:42 Title: Red Hat Customer Portal (at rhn.redhat.com) 2013-01-08T15:13:45 *** x86Daddy has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T15:18:51 http://www.quora.com/Teenagers-and-Teenage-Years/Im-13-havent-had-a-boyfriend-and-I-think-its-because-Ive-got-one-arm-What-do-you-think#ans1916549 2013-01-08T15:18:52 Title: Teenagers and Teenage Years: Im 13, havent had a boyfriend and I think its because Ive got one arm. What do you think? - Quora (at www.quora.com) 2013-01-08T15:21:22 Harder to give a handy to someone when you only have one arm 2013-01-08T15:23:02 With practice, I'm sure she'll overcome that handicap, but it's going to take perseverance and hard work. 2013-01-08T15:25:25 Just means her mouth is stronger. 2013-01-08T15:25:29 *** K4k has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.9.2) 2013-01-08T15:26:48 *** ZaDeaux has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T15:31:33 You win. I'm not goin' there. 2013-01-08T15:31:34 She's 13. 2013-01-08T15:44:48 *** K4k has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T15:44:49 *** K4k has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T15:48:19 in other news 2013-01-08T15:48:20 http://mashable.com/2013/01/08/kfc-chicken-brain-kidney/ 2013-01-08T15:55:26 So, anyone here have experience with rackspace block volume storage? 2013-01-08T15:55:31 Curious if it is mature enough to use 2013-01-08T15:55:44 *** K4k has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.9.2) 2013-01-08T15:59:21 *** K4k has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T15:59:22 *** K4k has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T16:11:49 *** cuebit has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T16:28:39 *** cuebit has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-01-08T16:29:00 *** Zero-|Work has quit IRC (Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )) 2013-01-08T16:38:30 Adobe is letting anybody download CS2 directly from their servers: http://www.adobe.com/downloads/cs2_downloads/index.html 2013-01-08T16:38:31 Title: Adobe - CS2 Downloads (at www.adobe.com) 2013-01-08T16:39:04 with serial numbers 2013-01-08T16:40:20 *** sync|Win8 has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T16:44:03 *** cuebit has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T16:50:18 *** cuebit has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-01-08T17:13:03 *** Genphlux has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T17:13:55 *** CNwaV has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2013-01-08T17:27:24 ok 2013-01-08T17:27:25 http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/166gff/flight_attendants_of_reddit_upon_discovering_a/c7t8sqg 2013-01-08T17:27:28 Title: BabyHooey comments on Flight Attendants of Reddit, upon discovering a mile-high club attempt, do you bust the culprits or allow the mischief-makers to try to get away with it? (at www.reddit.com) 2013-01-08T17:27:28 this is fucking brilliant 2013-01-08T17:27:41 The comment in particular 2013-01-08T17:42:55 *** CNwaV has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T17:55:33 *** vaneck has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T18:08:51 *** oddball has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2013-01-08T18:10:53 *** oddball has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T18:16:21 *** x86Daddy has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-01-08T18:16:22 *** oddball has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2013-01-08T18:16:25 *** x86Daddy1 has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T18:18:08 *** oddball has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T18:36:10 *** Genphlux has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-01-08T18:43:13 *** Bahhumbug has quit IRC (Quit: brb) 2013-01-08T18:49:47 *** Bahhumbug has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T18:49:47 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Bahhumbug 2013-01-08T19:04:42 *** Bahhumbug has quit IRC (Quit: Learn where everything you take for granted on a daily basis in IT originated from: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=4BFC3F13B846707B) 2013-01-08T19:08:14 *** x86Daddy1 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2013-01-08T19:22:36 *** Bahhumbug has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T19:22:37 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Bahhumbug 2013-01-08T19:30:26 *** user___ has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T19:34:05 *** user___ has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2013-01-08T19:36:08 *** cuebit has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T20:27:54 *** cuebit has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal) 2013-01-08T20:39:15 *** CNwaV has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2013-01-08T20:42:30 *** LastChild has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T20:42:30 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o LastChild 2013-01-08T20:50:47 *** kive has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2013-01-08T20:54:01 * wilpig kicks Dolemite in the nuts 2013-01-08T20:54:23 Point after goal? 2013-01-08T20:54:31 * wilpig kicks Dolemite in the nuts again 2013-01-08T20:54:43 2 point conversion yayyyy 2013-01-08T20:55:15 WHY>?! would you do this? 2013-01-08T21:03:01 I can either fix this or just head desk until I don't care anymoe. 2013-01-08T21:08:19 *** sasquatc3 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2013-01-08T21:13:05 *** sasquatc4 has joined #se2600 2013-01-08T21:13:05 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o sasquatc4 2013-01-08T21:19:10 wilpig: headdesk sounds reasonable 2013-01-08T21:27:03 my order of 100 ultra bright LEDs arrived and it only contained a capacitor :-( 2013-01-08T21:39:30 Bahhumbug: did the release notes link that doc work at the time you read it? 2013-01-08T21:51:53 https://test.hypothes.is/ 2013-01-08T22:38:55 Hahahaha! A newspaper that decided to publish a map with the names and addresses of folks with carry permits "without comment, other than giving information it thinks its readers should know" is all pissed off because a blogger has done the same with the newspaper's employees. 2013-01-08T22:40:01 lol 2013-01-08T22:40:31 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o oddball 2013-01-08T22:45:03 sdodson, that must have been one big capacitor 2013-01-08T22:50:09 sdodson: i just ordered 960 RGB LEDs 2013-01-08T22:50:30 they shipped today 2013-01-08T22:50:55 actually to be exacty i ordered 2640 RGB LEDs 2013-01-08T22:51:05 960 were for me 2013-01-08T23:41:55 wilpig: Oh what a terrible shame that is 2013-01-08T23:42:37 It's just awful that now a bunch of people whose homes are on a list of places someone could steal some guns from, now know where the employees responsible live. 2013-01-08T23:53:46 Ugh. Downtown is a mess 2013-01-08T23:56:46 Man 2013-01-08T23:56:54 Is it like a requirement of a CEO to be stupid and insulting at the same time? 2013-01-08T23:57:10 I think they get tax breaks for it