2012-11-28T00:14:48 *** Falun has joined #se2600 2012-11-28T00:15:20 *** Falun has left #se2600 2012-11-28T01:01:18 and the late clock begins. 2012-11-28T01:10:53 Try as I may I can not think of a friendly way of telling someone that society would be better off if they had ended up as a cum stain on their mother's pillow. 2012-11-28T01:13:14 yay! it has arrived. 2012-11-28T01:20:50 *** mog has joined #se2600 2012-11-28T01:20:50 *** mog has joined #se2600 2012-11-28T01:20:50 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mog 2012-11-28T01:58:20 all the parts got here... except the GPS 2012-11-28T02:35:58 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zjXr6Qnpcw&feature=related 2012-11-28T02:35:59 Title: Christmas Light Show 2011 - Sexy and I Know It - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 2012-11-28T02:36:01 this is amusing 2012-11-28T03:05:05 *** sasquatc3 has joined #se2600 2012-11-28T03:05:05 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o sasquatc3 2012-11-28T03:05:05 *** sasquatc4 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2012-11-28T06:20:32 *** LastChild has quit IRC (Quit: and the monkey flips the switch) 2012-11-28T06:37:09 and now I get to find out why all my shell scripts magically stopped working 2012-11-28T06:40:31 I'm going to go with 'Because your god hates you.' 2012-11-28T06:55:15 Bahhumbug: I think that actually answers a lot of my issues. 2012-11-28T07:00:00 :) 2012-11-28T07:28:06 mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 2012-11-28T07:28:15 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 2012-11-28T07:28:32 You definitely didn't want to hug me yesterday. I don't know WHAT the hell I had. 2012-11-28T07:28:54 I went home at lunch time yesterday, was fully clothed laying under 2 blankets in bed and still shivering. 2012-11-28T07:30:29 Fire. 2012-11-28T07:30:32 * wilpig_ gets out the wheel of diseases 2012-11-28T07:30:34 Fixes little issues like that. 2012-11-28T07:30:50 * wilpig_ puts away the wheel and gets a flame thrower 2012-11-28T07:30:58 I like where this is going 2012-11-28T07:32:50 Progress came after I was able to stop taking immodium. I'll just leave it at that. 2012-11-28T07:33:42 So Blizzard sends me an email trying to get me to buy Mists of Pandaland for $20 2012-11-28T07:34:01 laying in bed, under extra blankets, pooping yourself silly. dear god pamela must hate you now and should be demanding a new bed 2012-11-28T07:34:55 wilpig_: She hasn't been in our bed for the past 6 months - it's worn out and hurts her back. We're giving ourselves a Sleep Number Bed for Crimmus. 2012-11-28T07:35:14 Besides, our daughter still insists on sleeping with Momma. 2012-11-28T07:35:20 This is what parenthood is like 2012-11-28T07:35:33 I sleep alone. that is what bachelor is like 2012-11-28T07:35:56 actually change that. I sleep with two cats, that is what depression is like 2012-11-28T07:35:57 Oh, then I guess I'm a bachelor, too 2012-11-28T07:36:53 So anyway, I may be jumping back into WoW 2012-11-28T07:36:57 did you get a chance to test that url and image crud? 2012-11-28T07:37:00 to play on my new 24" monitor 2012-11-28T07:37:17 No, Mondays are too busy and yesterday I felt like death warmed over 2012-11-28T07:37:31 I had another German email me to ask about patch panel support 2012-11-28T07:37:49 I guess I need to work on that some this week and then start deciding what has to be in the next release 2012-11-28T07:37:55 seeing as how it's been nearly 2 mnoths 2012-11-28T07:37:57 months 2012-11-28T07:39:49 not worried about time between releases. would rather make sure their right and need to be done 2012-11-28T07:44:27 they're 2012-11-28T07:44:29 * Bahhumbug runs 2012-11-28T07:44:43 yeah yeah they're 2012-11-28T07:44:49 i'm tired. it's bed time. 2012-11-28T07:45:00 its. cause that version would make you correct me 2012-11-28T07:46:06 it's, actually. 2012-11-28T07:46:15 You're still at work, though, aren't you? 2012-11-28T07:46:15 I should probably just hand you the gas and a match. 2012-11-28T07:46:48 yes I am here and *gasp* mongo answered the phone 2012-11-28T07:46:56 But he was late 2012-11-28T07:46:59 however I was clearly on the other line and the phone had rang three times 2012-11-28T07:47:03 and he was late 2012-11-28T07:47:36 the email that was sent to my boss last night read "Hurrah, Hurray! Ben has decided to join us this evening afterall. At the click the time is 12:11AM" 2012-11-28T07:53:07 Interesting. The guy that emailed me last night about patch panels is with a company that does solar farms. 2012-11-28T07:53:21 http://www.q-cellscom 2012-11-28T07:53:21 add another dot in there 2012-11-28T07:53:53 nifty 2012-11-28T07:58:03 http://i.imgur.com/ut6eK.jpg !!! 2012-11-28T08:09:05 Oh, I'm going to write a script to eliminate the duplicate templates/etc in the tables that we're adding new enforcement on. You can just call it from the install, or integrate it. I don't care which. 2012-11-28T08:17:07 I was gonna hit it with the same approach like I did the power supplies and what not 2012-11-28T08:18:27 No, this is much simpler. If you have 2 HP DL380 G7 templates, then everything set to either of those templates gets set to the lowest numbered one, then you delete the rest of the templates 2012-11-28T08:18:31 no need for user interaction 2012-11-28T08:19:02 that works 2012-11-28T08:19:16 for contacts I am still saying no to setting the user ID to unique 2012-11-28T08:19:55 headed home 2012-11-28T08:19:56 why? 2012-11-28T08:20:04 cause I have contacts here that aren't users 2012-11-28T08:20:10 so they have no vunetid 2012-11-28T08:20:25 Me, too, but I just make up something for them 2012-11-28T08:20:56 just make a unique identifier or something else but requiring that isn't a good choice 2012-11-28T08:21:16 i'll look at it again tonight. i've sat on it long enough 2012-11-28T08:26:10 *** CNwaV has joined #se2600 2012-11-28T08:33:56 *** ZeroMinuS|Work has joined #se2600 2012-11-28T08:43:40 mr0nin 2012-11-28T08:45:04 http://gawker.com/5962159/the-internets-best-terrible-person-goes-to-jail-can-a-reviled-master-troll-become-a-geek-hero 2012-11-28T08:45:05 Title: The Internet's Best Terrible Person Goes to Jail: Can a Reviled Master Troll Become a Geek Hero? (at gawker.com) 2012-11-28T08:47:38 http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/krispy-kreme-donut-order-rejection-video-153858341.html 2012-11-28T08:47:40 Title: Sweet Krispy Kreme worker surprises man on quest for rejection | The Sideshow - Yahoo! News (at news.yahoo.com) 2012-11-28T09:10:06 *** K4k_ has joined #se2600 2012-11-28T09:15:59 *** K4k_ has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8) 2012-11-28T09:17:13 *** mog has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2012-11-28T09:23:20 *** mog has joined #se2600 2012-11-28T09:23:20 *** mog has joined #se2600 2012-11-28T09:23:20 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mog 2012-11-28T09:30:22 *** Genphlux has joined #se2600 2012-11-28T09:45:51 *** vyrus001 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-11-28T09:51:19 *** vyrus001 has joined #se2600 2012-11-28T10:06:30 you know what would rock 2012-11-28T10:06:37 a sesame street episode where the word of the day is "vagina" 2012-11-28T10:06:44 it could be the "elmo learns sex ed" 2012-11-28T10:29:12 *** benthemeek has joined #se2600 2012-11-28T10:29:12 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o benthemeek 2012-11-28T10:38:32 benthemeek: what up? 2012-11-28T10:53:03 unf unf 2012-11-28T10:53:13 sup jim_ec2? 2012-11-28T10:53:20 I just launched my first ever EC2 instance. :-P 2012-11-28T10:55:49 yeah, fun stuff... you use the amazon ami? 2012-11-28T10:55:50 timoguin: awesome :) 2012-11-28T10:56:01 i use the official ubuntu ami's 2012-11-28T10:56:27 I did the ubuntu AMI 2012-11-28T10:57:05 peace: hullo 2012-11-28T10:57:52 i recommend their ami, it's easy to upgrade and stay up to date 2012-11-28T10:58:00 not much junk in the trunk either 2012-11-28T10:58:14 * timoguin giggles 2012-11-28T10:58:19 junk in the trunk... 2012-11-28T10:58:44 relevant: the AWS re:invent conference is streaming keynotes today 2012-11-28T10:58:46 and tomorrow 2012-11-28T10:58:54 oh yar 2012-11-28T10:59:33 oh cool 2012-11-28T10:59:37 tim url? 2012-11-28T10:59:41 timoguin: url? 2012-11-28T10:59:49 https://reinvent.awsevents.com/ 2012-11-28T10:59:50 Title: AWS re: Invent (at reinvent.awsevents.com) 2012-11-28T11:00:27 cool thing about sysadmin work is that watching keynotes etc. still counts as work. :-P 2012-11-28T11:01:15 and looking at porn 2012-11-28T11:01:22 because you're testing your network bandwidth 2012-11-28T11:01:48 also testing wifi connectivity from the bathroom 2012-11-28T11:04:17 * jim_ec2 shakes head 2012-11-28T11:05:04 but i would never do that 2012-11-28T11:05:19 * timoguin straigtens tie 2012-11-28T11:05:21 you know, looking at porn isn't an issue, so much as doing other things while looking at it 2012-11-28T11:05:29 pray tell: what is aws? 2012-11-28T11:05:38 amazon web services 2012-11-28T11:05:43 ok that chick is hot 2012-11-28T11:05:45 ahhh/// 2012-11-28T11:05:52 makes sense now 2012-11-28T11:10:08 Anal With Sandwiches 2012-11-28T11:10:18 that too 2012-11-28T11:15:43 *** mog has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2012-11-28T11:22:02 *** mog has joined #se2600 2012-11-28T11:22:02 *** mog has joined #se2600 2012-11-28T11:22:02 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mog 2012-11-28T11:22:39 http://www.reddit.com/r/wheredidthesodago <- This is the greatest thing I've seen on the internet in quite a while 2012-11-28T11:22:42 Title: Missing Level: Soda (at www.reddit.com) 2012-11-28T11:49:51 * timoguin watches AWS re:Invent keynote 2012-11-28T12:10:20 NSFW: http://milkingtentacles.tumblr.com/ 2012-11-28T12:10:21 Title: TENTACLES w/COCK (Homoerotic Art) (at milkingtentacles.tumblr.com) 2012-11-28T12:14:06 *** mog has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2012-11-28T12:16:42 *** mog has joined #se2600 2012-11-28T12:16:42 *** mog has joined #se2600 2012-11-28T12:16:42 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mog 2012-11-28T12:22:13 *** mog has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2012-11-28T12:26:40 *** mog has joined #se2600 2012-11-28T12:26:40 *** mog has joined #se2600 2012-11-28T12:26:40 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mog 2012-11-28T12:30:58 *** mog has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2012-11-28T12:33:52 *** mog has joined #se2600 2012-11-28T12:33:52 *** mog has joined #se2600 2012-11-28T12:33:52 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mog 2012-11-28T12:51:48 *** mog has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2012-11-28T12:57:46 *** mog has joined #se2600 2012-11-28T12:57:46 *** mog has joined #se2600 2012-11-28T12:57:46 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mog 2012-11-28T13:02:07 *** benthemeek has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2012-11-28T13:13:51 *** NotLarry has joined #se2600 2012-11-28T13:13:51 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o NotLarry 2012-11-28T14:31:28 *** opensorcerer has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2012-11-28T14:48:48 Windows Blue.... then Red, White, Black, Silver, Gold, Platinum, etc. 2012-11-28T14:48:48 Gotta catch 'em all! 2012-11-28T14:50:15 shamelessly stolen from /. b/c I thought of the same post but too lazy to type it myself, lol 2012-11-28T14:50:15 sure you did! 2012-11-28T14:56:17 i was going to add 'yellow' since it was in there too, but ehh 2012-11-28T15:07:54 Dolemite: wilpig_: where's your cage manager repo? 2012-11-28T15:14:42 *** RangerZ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2012-11-28T15:35:46 * brimstone finds opendcim.org 2012-11-28T15:35:53 n/m, this looks better anyway 2012-11-28T15:37:18 so 2012-11-28T15:37:24 anyone here know much about SPF for email? 2012-11-28T15:37:49 IE if you have SPF enabled for a domain name, how might an SPF-neutral email sneak through? 2012-11-28T15:38:09 how do you have SPF-neutral emails if you have SPF setup for a domain? 2012-11-28T15:38:13 The reciever has to actually check that shit 2012-11-28T15:38:29 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151206734713585&set=a.10150153198368585.293539.770153584&type=1&relevant_count=1&ref=nf <-- Not quite SFW (no nudity or anything) 2012-11-28T15:38:32 Title: Welcome to Facebook (at www.facebook.com) 2012-11-28T15:38:57 brimstone: someone spoofed an email, I'm trying to figure out how it got through. 2012-11-28T15:39:18 It's worth noting that the individual in question has their gmail linked to their work account. 2012-11-28T15:39:25 (I fucking hate when people do that) 2012-11-28T15:39:27 The reciever has to actually check spf 2012-11-28T15:39:49 ...it also helps if the people running the supposedly spf-restricted source aren't running an open relay as well 2012-11-28T15:39:50 Dagmar: so if the email came to their gmail account, and their gmail didn't check SPF, it can get through? 2012-11-28T15:40:02 Yeah 2012-11-28T15:40:15 Gmail checks that I thought, so it's likely somethin else 2012-11-28T15:41:16 gmail checks spf, but lets dkim override it i thought? 2012-11-28T15:41:38 there was some weirdness with gmail and dkim and spf presented at hope this year aestetix 2012-11-28T15:41:48 aestetix: I'm currently migrating everyone in my company from Gmail accounts to Google Apps accounts. 2012-11-28T15:41:51 :( 2012-11-28T15:42:07 Most had the accounts specifically setup for the company, but some are personal accounts. 2012-11-28T15:42:10 * timoguin shakes head 2012-11-28T15:42:34 timoguin: I keep personal and other email accounts strictly separated, I don't understand why people link them. 2012-11-28T15:42:45 aestetix: stupidity 2012-11-28T15:42:47 brimstone: oh interesting, I should check that out 2012-11-28T15:42:52 timoguin: well it's worse than that. 2012-11-28T15:42:54 Most people do SPF wrong anyways 2012-11-28T15:43:08 They'll add ~all instead of -all and leave it like that. 2012-11-28T15:43:13 ~all means, go for it. 2012-11-28T15:43:13 i don't know, MaxieZ 2012-11-28T15:43:22 Since legally, if something borks with your company, depending on the nature of the bork, if you have forwarded work email to another account, the company can in theory seize that account. 2012-11-28T15:43:22 MxZBot: Nope 2012-11-28T15:43:22 MaxieZ: i don't know 2012-11-28T15:43:23 silly bot 2012-11-28T15:43:29 Or at least subpoena things from it. 2012-11-28T15:43:40 To be fair, ~all means debug mode 2012-11-28T15:43:45 But it doesn't work. 2012-11-28T15:43:56 I've never seen dkim used to block mail. 2012-11-28T15:44:07 dmarc will do that, but very few people are using that today 2012-11-28T15:44:11 aestetix: timoguin: the rest of my family has the old school mentality of using a work email domain for personal stuff 2012-11-28T15:44:41 and only have a work email address 2012-11-28T15:45:51 I'll take a look at the SPF setup, since i didn't set it up. 2012-11-28T15:46:00 And I wouldn't be surprised if the person who did fucked it up. 2012-11-28T15:46:18 migrating from Gmail to Google Apps is bad enough. some of them being personal accounts makes it worse. 2012-11-28T15:46:26 I can check. Or you can go to a validator. 2012-11-28T15:46:28 user yesterday was like NOPE when we wanted her credentials to migrate the mail 2012-11-28T15:46:36 Just do: host -t txt domain 2012-11-28T15:46:40 Should tell you. 2012-11-28T15:47:06 host -t spf domain should also work, but not everyone has moved to that. 2012-11-28T15:47:48 hah 2012-11-28T15:47:53 MaxieZ: that looks ike that was the issue 2012-11-28T15:48:19 Cool 2012-11-28T15:48:36 Also SPF is hard. Especially for businesses who pay other people to email for them. 2012-11-28T15:49:18 it was ~all, not -all 2012-11-28T15:49:27 Dmarc has a means to allow some bad stuff to make up for that. I personally don't think it's all that much better, but it's nice to merge them. 2012-11-28T15:49:45 so ~all just lets anything through? 2012-11-28T15:49:51 Yeah, but when you change it to -all, it will start blocking email. If you haven't done it before, it will be an issue 2012-11-28T15:49:55 Yes, ~all means nothing 2012-11-28T15:50:00 Might as well be +all 2012-11-28T15:50:10 what's ?all 2012-11-28T15:50:18 I'm not sure... 2012-11-28T15:50:21 Checking ;) 2012-11-28T15:50:31 So, Mirage apparently broke a bone in his hand this weekend, and we just talked him into going and getting it dealt with. 2012-11-28T15:50:56 Dagmar: your account on my firewall was compromised yesterday. 2012-11-28T15:50:59 Our boss just came in here and revealed that his primary interest in the matter was that it meant he had an excuse to cancel the meeting they were going to be in later 2012-11-28T15:51:04 NotLarry: Interesting. 2012-11-28T15:51:10 I had an account on your firewall? 2012-11-28T15:51:14 ? = neutral 2012-11-28T15:51:16 considering you didn't even know you had onw right?:) 2012-11-28T15:51:35 Why would someone put it at ~all rather than -all? 2012-11-28T15:51:39 ~ = softfail (IE: don't fail, but log it or something. I've never heard of anyone implementing that) 2012-11-28T15:51:45 ahhhh 2012-11-28T15:51:49 I'll tarball up the scripts they were running and send them to you, you might fidn it interesting:) 2012-11-28T15:51:57 aestetix: Because some folks don't read real closely 2012-11-28T15:52:03 Notlarry: Excellent plan. 2012-11-28T15:52:07 heh 2012-11-28T15:52:27 aestetix: I mean, how many Gentoo users have you see with the USE Line From Hell 2012-11-28T15:52:34 Mmmmmmmm. 2012-11-28T15:52:37 yeah 2012-11-28T15:53:42 * jim_ec2 pets his USE line 2012-11-28T15:53:43 heheh 2012-11-28T15:53:56 managing dependancies like a boss 2012-11-28T15:55:14 http://www.openspf.org/Tools 2012-11-28T15:55:14 neat 2012-11-28T15:55:14 Title: SPF: Tools (at www.openspf.org) 2012-11-28T15:55:32 i need to setup exim to enforce spf, violently 2012-11-28T15:56:04 Ooo that would make a nice kickstarter 2012-11-28T15:57:56 Everyone should be using SPF. Christ. 2012-11-28T15:58:01 Especially businesses. 2012-11-28T15:58:24 From: "Bill Gates" Subject: "please remove the firewall in the next version of windows" 2012-11-28T15:58:35 250 Accepted 2012-11-28T15:59:06 I use postfix. There's a pretty awesome SPFmilter. 2012-11-28T15:59:24 policyd-spf 2012-11-28T15:59:30 Written in python 2012-11-28T16:00:35 I can't fathom why it wouldn't work in exim though. 2012-11-28T16:01:35 ~all is similar to selinux in permissive; it gives an admin time to contact business associates and have them fix their shit before setting it to -all. 2012-11-28T16:01:35 ...but all is already something else... 2012-11-28T16:02:37 Bahhumbug: Yeah, but noone seems to do that. They just run in ~all forever 2012-11-28T16:02:42 Frankly I'm of the mind that if you're too stupid to properly setup spf / dkim you're not someone I care to talk to in the first place but that doesn't fly in the real world. 2012-11-28T16:03:06 MxZBot: all? 2012-11-28T16:03:06 all is fine and dandy 2012-11-28T16:03:14 I see. 2012-11-28T16:03:18 People leave selinux in permissive or disabled as well; it boils down to people are stupid. 2012-11-28T16:04:12 I don't think that's stupidity. It's laziness and a false sense of security 2012-11-28T16:04:12 I do a pentest every year. I never fix anything, but it makes me feel good 2012-11-28T16:04:15 Of course we use SPF. See! 2012-11-28T16:04:21 heh 2012-11-28T16:04:32 I enabled selinux in permissive cause I'm leet. 2012-11-28T16:05:19 * timoguin walks over to DNS records and turns enables SPF 2012-11-28T16:05:19 s/turns enables/enables/ 2012-11-28T16:05:19 So, this are fun maths 2012-11-28T16:05:36 Apparently, if you have logged in and then back out after last night's maintenance, something gets set wrong about your login time 2012-11-28T16:05:41 er... logged into WoW. 2012-11-28T16:05:52 Other people will see it reported that you were last logged on 43 years ago. 2012-11-28T16:06:35 Every box I manage, public-facing or not, has selinux in enforced with a targetted policy. I can't think of a reason in this day and age not to do so. A few years ago management tools were... lacking... and there was some pain involved; but that time has long since passed. 2012-11-28T16:06:58 When I was in #centos day in and day out _every_ compromise we saw was someone running with it disabled or perm-permissive. 2012-11-28T16:07:01 I'd just shake my head and chuckle. 2012-11-28T16:10:05 Dagmar: heh. that's funny. I logged on this afternoon and jay and I went hunting old raid instacnes for pets. scored too 2012-11-28T16:11:24 Cool 2012-11-28T16:12:35 thinking we had three drop and I won all three. by the third I was cackling over vent to jay at his shit luck 2012-11-28T16:13:39 http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/malganis/Evilpig/pet#status=is-collected&quality=3&source=source-drop 2012-11-28T16:13:41 Title: Pets & Mounts - Community - World of Warcraft (at us.battle.net) 2012-11-28T16:13:46 hrmm they don't have pictures 2012-11-28T16:13:51 Stop talking about crack 2012-11-28T16:14:03 Chrominius looks cool though 2012-11-28T16:14:15 * MaxieZ starts twiching. 2012-11-28T16:14:42 * wilpig_ sends maxiez a scroll of resurection 2012-11-28T16:16:01 hey maxiez did you see they're selling the latest expansion for $20. it's so cheap. it's not addicting anymore, they upgraded thatout 2012-11-28T16:16:04 * MaxieZ starts imagining pandas running around in Orgrimmar and feels better 2012-11-28T16:18:14 *** polerin_ has joined #se2600 2012-11-28T16:18:45 anyone have a pix handy that they can test something with? 2012-11-28T16:19:35 There's pandas all up in yer everywhere. 2012-11-28T16:20:35 I got a friend up in boston saying that the proxy-limit for aaa doesn't work like the documentation says and a cisco tac is saying it is a documentatin defect, my buddy thinks the guy is just a moron 2012-11-28T16:22:17 You're right! WoW isn't adicting! In fact I quit a while ago and haven't looked back! 2012-11-28T16:22:53 *** NotLarry has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2012-11-28T16:22:53 *** polerin has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2012-11-28T16:23:21 *** NotLarry has joined #se2600 2012-11-28T16:23:21 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o NotLarry 2012-11-28T16:25:45 so what is the difference between an SPF record and a TXT record? 2012-11-28T16:26:00 SPF is implented with TXT records 2012-11-28T16:26:05 impliemtned 2012-11-28T16:26:06 one of those 2012-11-28T16:26:10 neither of those 2012-11-28T16:26:24 That's what I thought, but Amazon's Route 53 DNS has an option for SPF record 2012-11-28T16:26:35 implemented 2012-11-28T16:28:52 Should I create two identical records? One SPF and one TXT? 2012-11-28T16:28:56 amazon may just have the format for the record built into their tool 2012-11-28T16:29:24 timoguin: that's like saying one whole wheat and one bread 2012-11-28T16:30:35 Reading an AWS forum post about. Someone from AWS recommended setting both. 2012-11-28T16:30:38 This why I axe. 2012-11-28T16:31:07 a SPF record is a TXT record, so i don't see how you can not do both 2012-11-28T16:32:17 I'm pretty new to AWS, so it's confusing why it would have options for both for record type. 2012-11-28T16:32:44 they both still have the same input format, i.e., wrap text in quotes 2012-11-28T16:32:45 like wilpig_ says, SPF is probably just a template for a TXT record 2012-11-28T16:32:51 There is a DNS enhancement for SPF records, it was designed to reduce traffic to nameservers so an MTA can pull only the specific record necessary. Not all resolvers support it. 2012-11-28T16:33:07 news to me 2012-11-28T16:33:13 Huh? 2012-11-28T16:33:14 does bind9 support it? 2012-11-28T16:33:14 It's been out for a few years. 2012-11-28T16:33:20 Yeah, bind should. 2012-11-28T16:33:24 so not all support host -t spf? 2012-11-28T16:33:26 You could always query just for specific types 2012-11-28T16:33:33 Bernstein's garbage doesn't. 2012-11-28T16:33:40 Not sure about recent pdns. 2012-11-28T16:33:43 gmail.com has no SPF record 2012-11-28T16:33:54 That's because he waits until a problem is "solved" before he codes so no one can ever say he was wrong 2012-11-28T16:34:06 brimstone: indeed it does not 2012-11-28T16:34:23 * timoguin sets TXT record 2012-11-28T16:35:11 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4408 2012-11-28T16:35:13 Title: RFC 4408 - Sender Policy Framework (SPF) for Authorizing Use of Domains in E-Mail, Version 1 (at tools.ietf.org) 2012-11-28T16:35:21 I don't know how much traction it ever got. 2012-11-28T16:35:42 I was seeing type-99 errors in el5's bind a few years back and traced it down to this. 2012-11-28T16:36:25 And yeah, I just use TXT RRs for SPF as does 99% of the rest of the world. 2012-11-28T16:36:32 hence my confusion when seeing recommendations to set both TXT and SPF records. 2012-11-28T16:36:35 man... if i waited to be write before I ever wrote any code. i'd never write anything 2012-11-28T16:36:44 right* 2012-11-28T16:36:52 not write. fukc i should go back to sleep 2012-11-28T16:37:27 timoguin: in _theory_ setting both is the proper thing to do; I only know a small handful of people that do both these days. 2012-11-28T16:50:30 *** RangerZ has joined #se2600 2012-11-28T16:56:43 *** CNwaV has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2012-11-28T16:59:57 *** ZeroMinuS|Work has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2012-11-28T17:03:37 If you can set an SPF record, go for it. It can't hurt (unless the server won't load) 2012-11-28T17:09:59 timoguin: lol @ coming here for tech questions 2012-11-28T17:10:23 they only know 2 things, penis and penis 2012-11-28T17:10:40 And vagina! 2012-11-28T17:10:41 especially er|c 2012-11-28T17:10:54 and sexual intercourse 2012-11-28T17:10:59 ware: plz advise on SPF 2012-11-28T17:11:20 plz give leetitude 2012-11-28T17:11:23 50...SPF 50 2012-11-28T17:12:04 definitely wanna protect these domains from harmful UV rays 2012-11-28T17:13:53 *** RangerZ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2012-11-28T17:14:48 man 2012-11-28T17:14:51 I tell you waht 2012-11-28T17:15:01 say "vagina" randomly in an irc channel full of feminists 2012-11-28T17:15:24 you would think the russians are attacking 2012-11-28T17:24:47 speaking of which 2012-11-28T17:24:48 vagina 2012-11-28T17:27:25 MUTT 2012-11-28T17:29:10 *** MaxieZ has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) 2012-11-28T17:29:26 *** MaxieZ has joined #se2600 2012-11-28T17:29:59 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v MaxieZ 2012-11-28T17:30:10 Stupid irsii went insane. 2012-11-28T17:30:23 stfu aestetix, you fucking pig 2012-11-28T17:31:19 ...men 2012-11-28T17:31:21 I swear 2012-11-28T17:31:35 I'm a pig? 2012-11-28T17:31:47 fwiw, I get the same reaction from saying "penis" 2012-11-28T17:32:04 * Dickie gasps 2012-11-28T17:40:05 *** K4k has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8) 2012-11-28T17:42:54 *** Genphlux has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2012-11-28T17:50:03 *** ZeroMinuS has joined #se2600 2012-11-28T17:52:20 * wilpig_ attacks aestetix 2012-11-28T17:53:28 guess me and my stepdad are headed to boscos for dinner so I gotta get a quick shower. later folks 2012-11-28T18:14:17 *** FNG_class has joined #se2600 2012-11-28T18:22:14 The capcha validation was a$ (and a picture of a duck) 2012-11-28T18:22:15 heh 2012-11-28T18:23:17 *** RangerZ has joined #se2600 2012-11-28T18:24:32 http://www.troll.me/images/futurama-fry/not-sure-if-listening-to-dubstep-or-dialup-modem.jpg 2012-11-28T18:29:23 The trible does drop on a dial up modem 2012-11-28T18:36:24 tribles drop on modems? why didn't I ever get one back in the day? I would have loved a tribble 2012-11-28T18:37:35 lol entrapment. http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/13xuyh/every_time_i_drive_at_night_i_cant_believe_those/c7860e8 2012-11-28T18:37:44 Title: schwagle comments on Every time I drive at night I can't believe those xenon/HID headlights are legal. What other things are legal that you think shouldn't be? (at www.reddit.com) 2012-11-28T18:40:56 hear hear 2012-11-28T18:41:36 lol 2012-11-28T18:41:47 a bar next to a playground... ENTRPMENT! 2012-11-28T18:45:23 http://voices.washingtonpost.com/crime-scene/fairfax/woman-flipped-off-naked-guy-th.html 2012-11-28T18:45:24 Title: Crime Scene - Fairfax Naked Guy -- Not Guilty (at voices.washingtonpost.com) 2012-11-28T18:53:41 *** K4k has joined #se2600 2012-11-28T18:58:30 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1569272/Man-who-had-sex-with-bicycle-sentenced.html 2012-11-28T18:58:31 Title: Man who had sex with bicycle sentenced - Telegraph (at www.telegraph.co.uk) 2012-11-28T18:58:40 I love Reddit 2012-11-28T18:59:11 *** K4k has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8) 2012-11-28T18:59:43 *** K4k has joined #se2600 2012-11-28T19:12:05 uh 2012-11-28T19:12:10 what's wrong with that 2012-11-28T19:12:19 how is a bicycle supposed to consent :p 2012-11-28T19:21:37 squeak? 2012-11-28T19:24:56 that's how catonic's mom consents 2012-11-28T19:28:27 *** sasquatc3 is now known as sasquatc4 2012-11-28T19:30:16 *** FNG_class has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2012-11-28T20:14:48 *** K4k has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8) 2012-11-28T20:22:23 damn cat! bitch has started knocking shit off the table beside my front door 2012-11-28T20:22:37 meow? 2012-11-28T20:22:41 my desk didn't have enough crap for her to knock off and steal already it seems 2012-11-28T20:23:09 meow (in a satisified tone) 2012-11-28T20:36:48 *** FNG has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2012-11-28T20:37:42 now she's bugging the shit out of me and wants to sit in my lap 2012-11-28T20:39:05 I'm in the same boat. 2012-11-28T20:41:55 Sounds more like a drunk stripper, knocks shit off your table then wants to sit in your lap. You sure your at home? 2012-11-28T20:42:25 yup 2012-11-28T20:42:33 you offering a drunken stripper? cause i'll take one 2012-11-28T20:44:05 +1 2012-11-28T20:44:05 I used to date a drunken stripper, now that she found jesus though she blames her past on being a junkie. Sure makes me feel better. 2012-11-28T20:45:18 A stripper and two sailers find themselves stranded on a desert island. After two weeks she is so ashamed of what their doing she kills herself... 2012-11-28T20:45:40 lol 2012-11-28T20:45:52 A month later the sailors are so ashamed of what they are doing, they bury her. 2012-11-28T20:46:06 eww 2012-11-28T20:46:22 haha 2012-11-28T20:57:41 *** LastChild