2012-11-20T00:07:09 um, help. 2012-11-20T00:07:16 apache/2.2 issue. 2012-11-20T00:10:09 whats up 2012-11-20T00:10:13 Catonic: esplain 2012-11-20T00:10:27 When I comment out Listen 443, it works. 2012-11-20T00:10:50 anything in the error logs? 2012-11-20T00:11:04 that's what's kooky.... NO 2012-11-20T00:11:18 I've gone to using strace and not got anything useful 2012-11-20T00:11:40 basically, it works fine until after it forks 2012-11-20T00:11:59 huh 2012-11-20T00:12:09 nothing else is listening on 443, right? 2012-11-20T00:12:22 nope 2012-11-20T00:13:19 what's the error when you try to run it with Listen 443 enabled? 2012-11-20T00:13:37 not a damn thing... just dies... no trace, no log, no nothing 2012-11-20T00:13:49 damn ether packet demons 2012-11-20T00:13:53 goddamn aliens stole my httpd daemon 2012-11-20T00:13:53 just eat the packets 2012-11-20T00:14:00 wait what? 2012-11-20T00:14:12 it starts and dies? 2012-11-20T00:14:45 *** wafflesawce has joined #se2600 2012-11-20T00:14:58 something like that 2012-11-20T00:15:06 forks and dies, no logs after forkage 2012-11-20T00:15:21 * peace waves at wafflesawce 2012-11-20T00:16:08 logs at debug on start only reports modules loading 2012-11-20T00:16:36 *** wafflesawce has left #se2600 2012-11-20T00:16:42 o 2012-11-20T00:16:48 what MPM mode? prefork? 2012-11-20T00:16:55 what happens if you start it in worker? 2012-11-20T00:18:04 O_o 2012-11-20T00:18:15 where is that specified? = 2012-11-20T00:18:19 shoudl say in your apache/httpd config file 2012-11-20T00:18:33 actually 2012-11-20T00:18:40 assuming ubuntu 2012-11-20T00:18:45 dpkg -l | grep prefork 2012-11-20T00:18:50 and dpkg -l | grep worker 2012-11-20T00:19:15 * aestetix had to learn a lot about apache the painful way earlier this year 2012-11-20T00:20:00 also dumb questions: was it working before? if so, what changed between now and then? 2012-11-20T00:21:50 looks like it's prefork 2012-11-20T00:21:57 yes, automatic updates 2012-11-20T00:22:05 ahhh ok 2012-11-20T00:22:20 did it update apache by chance? 2012-11-20T00:22:26 it appears to 2012-11-20T00:22:36 and I'm gonne guess it overwrote your old config file 2012-11-20T00:22:40 rhel's package updated everything except the additional stuff. 2012-11-20T00:22:52 problem is using the old configs it's unusually slow 2012-11-20T00:23:18 and the system isn't CPU/IO bound by any stretch 2012-11-20T00:23:22 hmm. are you using any modules with apache that need to be updatd? 2012-11-20T00:24:02 also, did the update possibly change where it's logging errors to? 2012-11-20T00:24:45 httpd dead but subsys locked 2012-11-20T00:24:53 huh 2012-11-20T00:25:14 is anything running with ps aux | grep either apache or httpd? 2012-11-20T00:25:17 just reverted the configs to pre, dead. 2012-11-20T00:26:35 (btw, if you get an opportunity, I recommend switching to nginx with uwsgi or gunicorn.... omg so much better) 2012-11-20T00:26:48 apache is slow and bloated 2012-11-20T00:27:19 So, is apache at least logging when it starts up and dies? 2012-11-20T00:27:27 if so, can we increase the verbosity? 2012-11-20T00:27:43 I can't remember the exact settings.... there's a LogLevel directive though 2012-11-20T00:27:50 it's set to debug on both... no difference 2012-11-20T00:28:37 Ok. Do you have split logs (error and access) or a combined log? 2012-11-20T00:30:35 split 2012-11-20T00:32:25 Ok. Do either of them say anything? I'm gonna assume you were watching the error log, curious if the access log said anything 2012-11-20T00:33:18 Errors will likely be in ssl_error_log under *el. 2012-11-20T00:33:45 Ahh, ok. 2012-11-20T00:34:03 nothing there 2012-11-20T00:34:04 Bahhumbug: when I'm uncertain, I normally ls -la the /var/log/httpd directory, run a request, then ls -lah the directory again 2012-11-20T00:34:07 no errors 2012-11-20T00:34:35 I've got lots of commentary about other mundane stuff, but no errors, no complaints... 2012-11-20T00:35:11 hmm. anything silly.... like an improper binding address? 2012-11-20T00:36:03 I recall an issue with httpd and ssl fairly recently involving an update, but I seem to recall it being a point release update. 2012-11-20T00:36:12 yeah, that's what I'm thinking 2012-11-20T00:37:00 Bahhumbug: ah, I had not heard about that. 2012-11-20T00:40:33 I can't put my finger on the specifics at the moment. 2012-11-20T00:41:12 ssh notlarry@hotcum4work.com 2012-11-20T00:41:19 oh, sorry, wrong window... 2012-11-20T00:42:17 lawl 2012-11-20T00:44:28 and the goddamn backups were roached 2012-11-20T00:46:35 httpd.conf is at least older than the assumed date of change 2012-11-20T00:46:37 Catonic: selinux enabled? 2012-11-20T00:47:59 even better: nope. 2012-11-20T00:48:21 I'm cleaning this gun slowly... I want it to be clean when I take my own head off. 2012-11-20T00:48:26 *smh* 2012-11-20T00:49:23 http://www.comicbookreligion.com/?c=7541&2600 2012-11-20T00:49:24 Title: Religion of 2600; from Ghost Rider 2099 #1 (May 1994) (at www.comicbookreligion.com) 2012-11-20T00:51:36 *** Dagmar has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2012-11-20T00:51:45 *** Dagmar has joined #se2600 2012-11-20T00:51:45 *** Dagmar has joined #se2600 2012-11-20T00:51:45 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Dagmar 2012-11-20T01:03:10 I can cut it all back to just the ssl config and the main config... when it picks up Listen 443, die 2012-11-20T01:14:10 *** CNwaV has joined #se2600 2012-11-20T01:45:50 Catonic: see if there is a duplicate Listen in /etc/httpd/conf.d/mod_ssl.conf that is conflicting with one in /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf 2012-11-20T02:06:04 so uh 2012-11-20T02:06:10 anyone here good with fabric? the python tool 2012-11-20T02:08:40 *** CNwaV has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2012-11-20T02:18:10 http://www.zdnet.com/porn-companies-adopt-facial-recognition-technology-encourage-instagram-photos-7000007631/ 2012-11-20T02:18:13 Title: Porn companies adopt facial-recognition technology, encourage Instagram photos | ZDNet (at www.zdnet.com) 2012-11-20T02:18:13 this won't cause any issues 2012-11-20T02:47:13 *** centrex has joined #se2600 2012-11-20T02:47:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o centrex 2012-11-20T02:47:54 wow im special 2012-11-20T03:40:34 *** RangerZ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2012-11-20T03:57:51 *** RangerZ has joined #se2600 2012-11-20T04:33:53 *** CNwaV has joined #se2600 2012-11-20T04:56:55 *** CNwaV has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2012-11-20T04:57:56 *** Falun has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2012-11-20T05:56:30 *** LastChild has quit IRC (Quit: and the monkey flips the switch) 2012-11-20T06:02:45 *** CNwaV has joined #se2600 2012-11-20T06:25:57 *** CNwaV has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2012-11-20T07:45:31 mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 2012-11-20T07:45:49 :/ 2012-11-20T07:47:01 Cheer up, centrex, I let you self-determine which category you fit in 2012-11-20T07:47:26 hrm 2012-11-20T07:47:42 most of you guys are in nashville right? 2012-11-20T07:48:12 I wouldn't say that most are 2012-11-20T07:48:23 a lot though? 2012-11-20T07:48:25 but it's the largest group 2012-11-20T07:48:41 If I get this devops job I'll be working remote thinking I wanna move up there. 2012-11-20T07:48:43 I used to be, but then moved to Knoxville 2012-11-20T07:49:22 whats in knoxville? 2012-11-20T07:49:46 Fastest supercomputer in the world 2012-11-20T07:49:50 ! 2012-11-20T07:50:00 I work at Oak Ridge National Laboratory 2012-11-20T07:50:22 cool 2012-11-20T07:51:04 I might have a job at railsmachine 2012-11-20T07:51:15 if so I want to get the hell out of this small town 2012-11-20T07:52:00 alabama blows 2012-11-20T07:52:46 which small alabama town? 2012-11-20T07:52:50 oneonta 2012-11-20T07:53:01 hey i know u 2012-11-20T07:53:01 I've driven through there before 2012-11-20T07:53:07 remembered to not blink 2012-11-20T07:53:07 hey matt 2012-11-20T07:53:11 where the fuck is that? 2012-11-20T07:53:20 an hour and a half from where you're at, south 2012-11-20T07:53:53 brimstone isn't in HSV anymore 2012-11-20T07:53:55 oh 2012-11-20T07:54:07 so, just north of birmingham? 2012-11-20T07:54:13 like 50 miles north of bham 2012-11-20T07:54:15 Northeast of BHM 2012-11-20T07:54:18 ah 2012-11-20T07:54:27 brimstone: I used to work at digium with you 2012-11-20T07:54:32 ben? 2012-11-20T07:54:39 speckien? 2012-11-20T07:54:47 nah but I'm working on a project with him 2012-11-20T07:54:48 patrick 2012-11-20T07:54:57 he's in chicago 2012-11-20T07:55:08 yeah, i thought he was up north somewhere 2012-11-20T07:55:13 I can't remember which manufacturing plant I had to go visit near there, but I used to work for a barcode equipment manufacturer and I visited lots of the small towns all over AL, GA, NC, SC, and TN 2012-11-20T07:55:15 he pings me on irc from time to time though 2012-11-20T07:55:37 yeah he's working with a nonprofit in his spare time, I've been writing an HIV patient database for them. 2012-11-20T07:55:40 web app 2012-11-20T07:55:53 just got showed to the UN and who and other funders 2012-11-20T07:56:07 neat 2012-11-20T07:56:09 so if they fund it, we can hire someone who actually knows wtf they're doing 2012-11-20T07:56:12 to rewrite it 2012-11-20T07:57:56 brimstone: you're not in hsv anymore? Where'd you go? 2012-11-20T07:58:00 atlanta 2012-11-20T07:58:07 which patrick are you? 2012-11-20T07:58:12 worked in support 2012-11-20T07:58:24 didn't you get popped for pot farming? 2012-11-20T07:58:28 no 2012-11-20T07:58:30 it was mushrooms 2012-11-20T07:58:37 oh 2012-11-20T07:58:42 out already? 2012-11-20T07:58:43 Yeah I'm out on bail 2012-11-20T07:58:47 ah 2012-11-20T07:58:55 gave me a $755,000 bond too 2012-11-20T07:59:13 damn how the fuck does everyone know about that? 2012-11-20T07:59:24 small town :) 2012-11-20T07:59:34 oh I thought you were out of hsv now 2012-11-20T07:59:39 and it was kinda unusual 2012-11-20T07:59:49 i am 2012-11-20T07:59:53 it's still a small town 2012-11-20T07:59:54 yeah not too many people have a giant full lab in a secret room in their house 2012-11-20T08:00:57 fuckin sucked I was in jail for 2 1/2 months before they lowered my bond to $100k 2012-11-20T08:01:22 I met a lot of interesting people though, one guy there for shooting black people that worked for the mob in VA offered me a job. 2012-11-20T08:02:28 *** CNwaV has joined #se2600 2012-11-20T08:02:29 ha, job fair in jail 2012-11-20T08:03:25 actually I had a ton of drug dealers who found out what I was in for coming up and asking me if I wanted to do it for them 2012-11-20T08:03:47 I maintained (and still do) my innocence in the whole thing 2012-11-20T08:04:35 *** [1]CNwaV <[1]CNwaV!~CNwaV@68.208.149.253> has joined #se2600 2012-11-20T08:04:45 hehe 2012-11-20T08:05:20 Mushrooms are naturally growing organisms 2012-11-20T08:05:37 Dolemite: Under alabama law biological synthesis means manufacturing of a controlled substance. 2012-11-20T08:06:05 Since it was a clandestine lab (hidden room behind a false wall) it was a class A felony, which carries a penalty of 10-99 years 2012-11-20T08:06:17 ouch 2012-11-20T08:06:50 Well my defense is, the people who called the cops on me because they were mad.... were the ones I was renting my house out too and thats why I wasn't there 2012-11-20T08:06:52 yeah, the rules around that are weird 2012-11-20T08:07:03 *** CNwaV has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2012-11-20T08:07:04 *** [1]CNwaV is now known as CNwaV 2012-11-20T08:07:16 and I have mail with their name on it going there 2012-11-20T08:07:25 if lawyer says that doesn't work out I'll opt for drug court so I don't have a felony on my record 2012-11-20T08:07:45 if that gets turned down I'm probably looking at 5 years probation 2012-11-20T08:08:47 But you only serve 1/3rd of your sentence in alabama so if I get convincted and get 10 most I'll do before back on parole is 2-2 1/2 years cause of good behavior time 2012-11-20T08:11:01 well, good luck! 2012-11-20T08:11:21 The guy I was in jail with for shooting a black guy (he called it something different) stood out in the middle of the street with a kevlar helmet on and a flak jacket with an ak47 and a drum clip pumping round after round into the guys house and car and bullets were ricocheting into other houses. 2012-11-20T08:11:26 hit the guy too 2012-11-20T08:11:49 damn 2012-11-20T08:11:59 So they gave him attempted murder, multiple counts of shooting into an occupied dwelling, shooting into an unoccupied dwelling, raided his house and found all sorts of automatic weapons and silencers, heroin, pot, shrooms, xanax, you name it 2012-11-20T08:12:23 threatened to take it to trial so they finally lowered his plea bargain to 10 year sentence and dropped 22 of the felonies if plead guilty to the 2 heroin charges. 2012-11-20T08:12:34 so they really dont want to take things to trial here 2012-11-20T08:13:22 wait, what!? 2012-11-20T08:13:35 I'm serious I saw his paper work I thought he was lying 2012-11-20T08:13:39 The guy went Terminator 2 on somebody's house? 2012-11-20T08:14:02 and the DA doesn't want that to go to trial? 2012-11-20T08:14:23 nah it would have cost like $150k to try it 2012-11-20T08:14:33 instead of the normal $60k it usually costs 2012-11-20T08:14:35 or something 2012-11-20T08:15:28 he was out on bond for the violence shit and then got popped for all the heroin and stuff or something, he was arrested again while still pending trial for the first stuff 2012-11-20T08:15:43 Heh, fire sale for all Pandigital tablets soon, I'm sure... they are going under and cancelling all warranties 2012-11-20T08:17:11 jail.madisoncountyal.gov search released inmates for Travis Herriges 2012-11-20T08:17:40 Jesus... what a fucked up state. 2012-11-20T08:18:28 according to him they didn't really care that much about him shooting a black drug dealer and hitting other houses in the ghetto 2012-11-20T08:18:34 they were mad about the heroin 2012-11-20T08:18:46 its alabama, just the way it is 2012-11-20T08:18:53 lets talk about something less controversial, have ya'll heard what's up in Israel? 2012-11-20T08:18:58 rofl 2012-11-20T08:19:28 I have a friend who just immigrated here from Israel and it's hard to discuss these things with her. 2012-11-20T08:20:46 but yeah for standing out in the street with an ak with a drum clip he'll be back out in 2-2 1/2 years 2012-11-20T08:21:01 See my previous statement. 2012-11-20T08:21:04 yah 2012-11-20T08:21:30 I mean honestly though he was one of the cooler guys to talk to he was really smart, just a lot of mob connections and crazy right wing gun ideas. a lot better than the meth heads making dick jokes all the time. 2012-11-20T08:22:27 I can honestly say I don't approve of what he did, but a guy threatened his friends and family and said he was going for a gun, so he got out his ak 2012-11-20T08:22:51 I would have just driven off 2012-11-20T08:23:15 <@Dolemite> The guy went Terminator 2 on somebody's house? and the DA doesn't want that to go to trial? <--- fucked up 2012-11-20T08:24:08 Were there no witnesses? I mean how hard can it be to try someone who did shit like that? 2012-11-20T08:24:15 Oh they had him dead to rights, no issue 2012-11-20T08:24:24 They just didn't want to spend the money to try him, it would cost a LOT 2012-11-20T08:24:35 don't understand why 2012-11-20T08:24:49 Money game, DAs want the most convinctions with the least amount of cash spent 2012-11-20T08:25:17 They should be required to prosecute any felony. 2012-11-20T08:25:24 that's their sole rsponsibility 2012-11-20T08:25:29 everyone that was dumb took the first plea dea the DA offered, everyone smart bluffed like they were going to trial, night before picking the jury they get a call dismissing almost all their charges and giving them probation mostly 2012-11-20T08:25:39 They did prosecute it they gave him a plea deal 2012-11-20T08:25:47 for 10 years, dropping 22 of the charges 2012-11-20T08:25:51 convincted on 2 2012-11-20T08:26:21 s/prosecute/go to trial for/ i dunno 2012-11-20T08:26:29 It's ridiculous how people offered 20 years straight end up getting out on 5 years probation at the end of the day 2012-11-20T08:26:43 if they bluff it right 2012-11-20T08:26:48 state's broke 2012-11-20T08:26:52 dropping 22 felony charges seems insane. If nothing else give him the attempted murder and let the shooting into a dwelling stuff drop. 2012-11-20T08:26:55 that's serious shit 2012-11-20T08:27:09 "Hi. You're a fucking douchebag being tried for 24 felonies. You can accept what we give you or you can become a science experiment at our leisure. Your choice. Nope, there will be no plea agreements, see the part about being a fucking douchebag? Ok, what's it going to be?" 2012-11-20T08:27:47 i dated a girl who was a science experiment once 2012-11-20T08:28:01 i should've quit as soon as they told me that 2012-11-20T08:28:02 Rent out inmates for use as medical test dummies; make some money and let their fuckers pay back their debt to society. 2012-11-20T08:28:03 well with a plea bargain its a sure convinction, there's all sorts of technicalities and such to get someone off if they go to trial 2012-11-20T08:28:07 s/their/the/ 2012-11-20T08:28:22 and alabama is known for letting people off for attacking minorities. Kinda in the past mostly, but still. 2012-11-20T08:28:46 plus $150k the state is out even if they win and he goes to prison 2012-11-20T08:28:54 * Bahhumbug must remember to consider my surroundings before making a statement that will come back to haunt him 2012-11-20T08:28:57 They don't give a damn about the law its all about money. 2012-11-20T08:29:37 # of convictions too for their record as a DA, numbers game entirely. Sucks if you're innocent, works out great if you're guilty 2012-11-20T08:31:12 * Bahhumbug goes back to performance tuning 2012-11-20T08:33:14 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o CNwaV 2012-11-20T08:37:11 so, centrex, you have good shrooms? 2012-11-20T08:38:30 http://www.huntsvillenewswire.com/2010/12/14/man-shot-argument-early-tuesday/ to prove I wasn't lying 2012-11-20T08:38:31 Title: Man shot during argument early Tuesday; suspect charged with attempted murder HuntsvilleNewswire (at www.huntsvillenewswire.com) 2012-11-20T08:38:40 CNwaV: allegedly 2012-11-20T08:40:53 http://www.wsfa.com/story/19210335/drug-agents-make-large-mushroom-bust-in-harvest 2012-11-20T08:40:54 Title: Drug agents make large mushroom bust in Harvest - WSFA.com: News Weather and Sports for Montgomery, AL. (at www.wsfa.com) 2012-11-20T08:42:59 cool.... i want a mushroom lab too... 2012-11-20T08:42:59 i miss mushrooms 2012-11-20T08:43:23 what is the purpose of the stuff that looks like cotton? 2012-11-20T08:43:25 I've heard if you go to shroomery.org they're experts at it 2012-11-20T08:43:41 oh, i didnt know you could still buy spore prints... 2012-11-20T08:43:50 CNwaV: If I had to guess I'd say that was polyfill, and that you would probably use it as a filter to stop mold from getting in, but allow air exchange too 2012-11-20T08:44:03 ah ok 2012-11-20T08:44:09 CNwaV: Sporeprints are legal in all but 3 states, GA, idaho and california 2012-11-20T08:57:36 *** [1]CNwaV <[1]CNwaV!~CNwaV@68.208.149.253> has joined #se2600 2012-11-20T09:00:04 *** CNwaV has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2012-11-20T09:00:05 *** [1]CNwaV is now known as CNwaV 2012-11-20T09:05:27 *** Genphlux has joined #se2600 2012-11-20T09:08:50 *** Iyeman has quit IRC (Quit: Bye) 2012-11-20T09:12:42 *** Iyeman has joined #se2600 2012-11-20T09:12:42 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Iyeman 2012-11-20T09:32:03 *** ZeroMinuS|AFK has quit IRC () 2012-11-20T09:51:55 *** centrex has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2012-11-20T10:10:42 *** ZombieChicken has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2012-11-20T10:28:22 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=REn1BnJE3do 2012-11-20T10:28:23 Title: Did Anonymous stop Karl Rove from Stealing Ohio again? - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 2012-11-20T10:28:35 ok.... 2012-11-20T10:31:48 fuck...being from ohio... I DO NOT doubt it.... 2012-11-20T10:32:34 It may be a fun month here at the office 2012-11-20T10:33:00 HR is apparently started another initiative to run background checks on everybody, because some people work with children. 2012-11-20T10:33:15 I barely work with adults, let alone children, and I put up with that shit once under ITS. 2012-11-20T10:33:20 Dagmar: Think of the children 2012-11-20T10:33:22 I'm not doing it again. 2012-11-20T10:34:21 They ran a background check on me before I was hired, they ran a background check on me (I am sure) when they were convinced I had haxored the datacenter, and they had me do this crap with this vendor about four years ago, and I did not find the paperwork acceptable. 2012-11-20T10:34:54 I'm not handing my fuckin' life story over to a third party vendor who asks me to sign off on a hold harmless agreement for them over it. No. No. No. 2012-11-20T10:40:02 Dagmar: Can I have your life story? 2012-11-20T10:40:07 No. 2012-11-20T10:40:07 I won't share with anyone. 2012-11-20T10:40:10 :( 2012-11-20T10:40:31 These guys actually had mention in their paperwork that you agreed to arbitration 2012-11-20T10:41:18 I gotta worry about fucking corporations that could decide I owe them shit because someone got ahold of a number and an address 2012-11-20T10:41:34 ...and these guys want that and so much more to do a criminal background check? No. 2012-11-20T10:42:25 They didn't specify what they'd do with the data either, so I'm pretty sure it also amounts to populating their database of information on US citizens 2012-11-20T10:42:59 Imma drop a goddamn book on someone over this. To hell with a memo or a short email. 2012-11-20T10:43:12 I will make legal break a fuckin' sweat for their paychefcks. 2012-11-20T10:44:28 *** centrex has joined #se2600 2012-11-20T10:44:28 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o centrex 2012-11-20T10:48:28 *** its_jeremy_ has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-11-20T10:50:20 *** its_jeremy_ has joined #se2600 2012-11-20T11:04:52 *** RangerZ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2012-11-20T11:08:36 *** shade369 has joined #se2600 2012-11-20T11:30:13 *** ware has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) 2012-11-20T11:30:44 *** Dickie has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2012-11-20T11:31:25 *** ware has joined #se2600 2012-11-20T11:31:48 *** Dickie has joined #se2600 2012-11-20T11:31:48 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Dickie 2012-11-20T11:32:28 *** RangerZ has joined #se2600 2012-11-20T11:44:49 aestetix, ping 2012-11-20T12:14:36 does anyone here have strong opinions against Adrian Lamo leaking that Bradley Manning was the guy who leaked to Wikileaks? 2012-11-20T12:17:07 snitches get stitches? 2012-11-20T12:17:12 That's the best I can do. 2012-11-20T12:17:39 such passion... 2012-11-20T12:18:04 drama so thick, it's like the Lifetime channel in here 2012-11-20T12:18:31 *** kive1 has joined #se2600 2012-11-20T12:19:29 Government transparency is noble, private citizen's personal information should be protected. 2012-11-20T12:20:03 private citizens should strive to protect their personal information as well 2012-11-20T12:20:06 Wouldn't argue that. I'd say it's not as black and white as all that. 2012-11-20T12:20:11 peace: I do, especially when you consider the fact that Bradly wasn't just talking to him about the info. They were talking to him about being trans, and the difficulties they faced in the military with that. 2012-11-20T12:20:24 footprint found on mars? 2012-11-20T12:20:43 *** kive has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2012-11-20T12:20:48 It's *not* black and white by any means, but I have significant issues with that 2012-11-20T12:20:53 ware: whut. 2012-11-20T12:20:56 * polerin walks over 2012-11-20T12:21:13 I think Lamo is a bit of a sociopath 2012-11-20T12:22:30 http://science.slashdot.org/story/12/11/20/1511232/what-earth-shaking-discovery-has-curiosity-made-on-mars?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed 2012-11-20T12:22:31 Title: What "Earth-Shaking" Discovery Has Curiosity Made on Mars? - Slashdot (at science.slashdot.org) 2012-11-20T12:22:59 Or to paraphrase, "*coughs* Pay attention to me! We put a lot of money into this!" 2012-11-20T12:24:53 we have a NASA employee coming here today, a friend of mine. I'll ask her about it 2012-11-20T12:26:17 peace: He's not a socipath, he's an aspie... which is not too far from that, but different enough to be significant 2012-11-20T12:26:59 dagmar: I looked into aspergers as soon as I called him a sociopath, I concede 2012-11-20T12:27:35 Yeah so you see the difference, then? 2012-11-20T12:27:48 A sociopath can tell what other people's desires and goals are, but simply doesn't care. 2012-11-20T12:28:08 An aspies has no understanding that other people have desires and goals different from their own. 2012-11-20T12:28:19 Isn't that a psycopath? 2012-11-20T12:28:20 also referred to as "being an insensitive asshole" 2012-11-20T12:28:30 I have been called insensitive. 2012-11-20T12:28:37 Do I have asbergers? 2012-11-20T12:28:40 timoguin: yes 2012-11-20T12:28:59 Let me put this another way... Opheria, that redhead you've seen me with at practically every Phreaknic, is an aspie, although she won't admit it. 2012-11-20T12:29:18 Seems a great amount of hackers have a lot of the symptoms 2012-11-20T12:29:18 Argentina decided to bruteforce my server. WTH?! 2012-11-20T12:29:22 If she gets bored, or she's up late at night, it doesn't even matter what the day of the week or time of night is... she'll call me. 2012-11-20T12:29:34 Dagmar: ew 2012-11-20T12:29:39 She'll call me because she has no idea I might be asleep or busy. She's free, therefore I'm free. 2012-11-20T12:29:44 I hate when people call me. 2012-11-20T12:29:55 this thing makes calls!? 2012-11-20T12:29:58 Had a user call me earlier. 2012-11-20T12:29:59 In the mind of an aspie, what's in everyone else's head is basically a replication of what's in their head. 2012-11-20T12:30:02 I told her to reply to the email 2012-11-20T12:30:34 like a baus 2012-11-20T12:30:45 A psychopath doesn't even make it as far along as a sociopath does 2012-11-20T12:31:05 A psychopath can't understand anyone's goals, and their own are insane to boot. 2012-11-20T12:31:29 I've been told that a psyopatch doesn't get society and a sociapath just doesn't give a fuck 2012-11-20T12:31:38 IN THEORY, medication can fix Asperger's Syndrome. 2012-11-20T12:31:52 MaxieZ: That's a pretty good summary. 2012-11-20T12:32:06 But I've seen contradictory statements, so I don't know. 2012-11-20T12:32:10 http://www.universetoday.com/98576/has-curiosity-made-an-earth-shaking-discovery/ 2012-11-20T12:32:25 ware: Yeah those people are all clenched today 2012-11-20T12:32:40 they might have actually found nitrates or something 2012-11-20T12:33:15 Could be jesus. 2012-11-20T12:33:23 He hangs out on Mars. 2012-11-20T12:33:30 I was really thinking about trolling 2012-11-20T12:33:33 Don't do this. Seriously. 2012-11-20T12:33:49 The picture of the soil where they took the samples looks a lot like some kind of footprint. 2012-11-20T12:34:11 Downres the jpg a little, and you could troll the fuck out of Facebook saying they found ALIEN FOOTPRINTS ON MARS OMG 2012-11-20T12:34:49 Maybe it is a footprint. 2012-11-20T12:35:21 That would be "earthshaking" 2012-11-20T12:36:50 =\ sometimes I really hate when I take off 2012-11-20T12:37:10 Damn.Ispiltcokeonmykeyboardandmyspacebardied 2012-11-20T12:37:21 there's this new hire at my office who I swear just loves shitting all over my code 2012-11-20T12:37:39 literally 2012-11-20T12:37:45 so whenever I'm out & check our ticketing system...& see him on a feature request that I started....it sucks 2012-11-20T12:37:50 disgusting 2012-11-20T12:37:58 mhmm =( 2012-11-20T12:38:54 we use django & I caught him using javascript in a widget's template to pull information from another widget on the page....instead of just passing it through the view 2012-11-20T12:39:04 then he tried to argue with me when I berated him over it 2012-11-20T12:40:05 *** vaneck has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-11-20T12:41:00 *** shade369 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-11-20T12:41:03 also likes to use things like alert("DICK!"); when he's testing which I imagine wouldn't go over so well if it ended up on a live site 2012-11-20T12:41:34 Yep, alert("VAGINA!"); is much mor appropriate 2012-11-20T12:41:40 more 2012-11-20T12:42:05 literally one time saw a switch statement with each case being like 1: alert("p", 2: alert("e"), etc 2012-11-20T12:43:16 *** shade369 has joined #se2600 2012-11-20T12:44:05 ... 2012-11-20T12:44:07 firebug? 2012-11-20T12:44:29 ? 2012-11-20T12:44:46 for debugging JS. :P 2012-11-20T12:44:49 has he heard of it. 2012-11-20T12:44:59 oh, lol 2012-11-20T12:45:06 seriously. 2012-11-20T12:45:28 I mean I do that shit in PHP because xdebug integration can kiss my ass 2012-11-20T12:45:32 I mean...alerts are more useful sometimes at least for me 2012-11-20T12:45:34 but... 2012-11-20T12:45:50 mostly when dealing with JSON or django template tags 2012-11-20T12:46:01 eh. 2012-11-20T12:47:43 Wait, is this aestetix who is testing the code? 2012-11-20T12:49:54 if (1=1) {} creates a easy breakpoint if there's not a good spot 2012-11-20T12:50:00 or if (true) {} 2012-11-20T12:51:18 er 1==1 but whatever 2012-11-20T12:51:42 I always forget to remove JS alerts, so I hates them 2012-11-20T12:51:48 I hates them with fire and burning and pain 2012-11-20T12:52:00 While you're going that way, go one step further, delcare a DEBUG or something globally so you can turn your debug stuff off by just setting debug = false. 2012-11-20T12:52:55 btw: I make no claims to being a good coder.. I am just a lazy one. 2012-11-20T12:54:10 for js? Something about that makes me twitch. 2012-11-20T12:54:23 for server side code, yeh 2012-11-20T12:54:28 js makes me twich. 2012-11-20T12:54:58 js used to make me want to slam my face into a desk over and over. now it's ok. 2012-11-20T12:54:59 I'm not saying, once it meet production you can't go in and remove it.. 2012-11-20T12:55:17 I haven't messed with it much honestly... 2012-11-20T12:55:19 I need a recommendation for a livecd, unix based 2012-11-20T12:55:26 for? 2012-11-20T12:55:27