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2012-10-20T00:57:35  <Dagmar> for those of you ever thinking I was kidding about tunnels under Nashville... LOL
2012-10-20T00:57:36  <Dagmar> http://www.newschannel5.com/story/19868421/hume-fogg-ghost-tour-continues-scary-tunnel-tradition
2012-10-20T00:57:37  <GateKeeper> Title: Hume-Fogg Ghost Tour Continues Scary Tunnel Tradition - NewsChannel5.com | Nashville News, Weather & Sports (at www.newschannel5.com)
2012-10-20T01:38:03  <wilpig_> I knew about the tunnels
2012-10-20T01:39:02  <Dagmar> I know HF students who didn't know about them
2012-10-20T01:39:21  <Dagmar> I'd been down in them twice before they got serious about the cement and locks
2012-10-20T01:39:35  <Dagmar> At one point you could have gone from there all the way to the middle of Belmont's campus
2012-10-20T01:40:42  <Dagmar> The air was pretty dreadful
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2012-10-20T03:01:56  <wilpig_> fuckign windows admins
2012-10-20T03:02:12  <wilpig_> patching will be going on for at least 6 hours and they schedule the servers down in nagios for 2
2012-10-20T03:04:24  <wilpig_> Dagmar: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/malganis/Evilpig/pet
2012-10-20T03:04:25  <GateKeeper> Title: Pets & Mounts - Community - World of Warcraft (at us.battle.net)
2012-10-20T03:05:04  <Dagmar> Not bad
2012-10-20T03:05:17  <Dagmar> You do see tho now that it's almost EXACTLY Pokemon.  :)
2012-10-20T03:05:24  <wilpig_> yeah it is
2012-10-20T03:05:31  <Dagmar> I saw my guild leader at Bongo tonight and he kept trying to argue with me
2012-10-20T03:05:33  <wilpig_> that's why i've been calling it PokeWoWville
2012-10-20T03:05:39  <Dagmar> "Blah blah well I've done 300 pet battles"
2012-10-20T03:05:59  <Dagmar> "Well, I've beaten three different versions of Pokemon, which this is."
2012-10-20T03:06:19  <wilpig_> getting a "rare" one in this is like getting a shiney in pokemon
2012-10-20T03:06:30  <Dagmar> Oh hell no
2012-10-20T03:06:35  <Dagmar> I have fucking tons of rare ones
2012-10-20T03:06:46  <Dagmar> In some zones, MOST of a given type will be rare
2012-10-20T03:06:49  <Dagmar> Badlands for instance.
2012-10-20T03:07:02  <Dagmar> One of the pets there, I saw seven rares and two uncommons.
2012-10-20T03:07:05  <wilpig_> I get mostly poor and common.  I keep going til I find a rae
2012-10-20T03:07:40  <Dagmar> You can pretty much just go from zone to zone working your way up collecting each new set of pets as you go, and you'll see a few places where the rare version is actually common
2012-10-20T03:08:06  <Dagmar> I spotted two critters like that in the old continent.  I think it was the beetle for the Badlands
2012-10-20T03:08:17  <Dagmar> It's the one rare I have three of captured.
2012-10-20T03:08:23  <wilpig_> the fire beetle is amusing as hell
2012-10-20T03:08:33  <Dagmar> Normally I just try for awhile to get a rare and then move on if I've gotten at least an uncommon
2012-10-20T03:08:37  <wilpig_> it explodes and sets the world on fire
2012-10-20T03:11:52  <wilpig_> I am annoyed that I can't name my little mini-raptor there boner.
2012-10-20T03:20:28  <wilpig_> interesting.  the pet stuff isn't updated when you log out like the gear is.
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2012-10-20T08:00:09  <RangerZ> gungam style techno remix, i was wondering how long this was going to take...
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2012-10-20T08:22:14  <Bahhumbug> "Not long enough"
2012-10-20T09:15:46  <wilpig_> that's what she said?
2012-10-20T09:39:19  <frsilent> Phew, just beat Metro 2033. First time I've beaten a game in years
2012-10-20T09:39:40  <frsilent> great voice-acting imo
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2012-10-20T10:01:58  <er|c> RangerZ: like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSYuGpzZEMk
2012-10-20T10:01:59  <GateKeeper> Title: Psy - Gangnam Style (Candylands OG Remix) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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2012-10-20T14:09:08  <sdodson_> what should i do with my pandaboard?
2012-10-20T14:31:28  <brimstone> give it to me at phreaknic
2012-10-20T14:31:35  <brimstone> pandaboard is the all free one right?
2012-10-20T14:32:47  <sdodson_> brimstone: It's opensource afaik, but it's like $120 versus the Raspberry Pi which is $30. But it's 1GB and Dual Core 1GHz
2012-10-20T14:32:58  <brimstone> yeah, and the raspi isn't open
2012-10-20T14:32:59  <brimstone> at all
2012-10-20T14:33:04  <sdodson_> orly?
2012-10-20T14:33:06  <sdodson_> wtf?
2012-10-20T14:33:07  <brimstone> no
2012-10-20T14:33:15  <brimstone> goooooooooooooo broadcom!
2012-10-20T14:33:16  <sdodson_> why are opensource nutters nutting all over themselves for it?
2012-10-20T14:33:23  <brimstone> it's just cheap
2012-10-20T14:33:31  <sdodson_> your mom is cheap!
2012-10-20T14:33:39  <brimstone> probably, but you still need an invite
2012-10-20T14:33:46  <sdodson_> Can I get one plz?
2012-10-20T14:33:51  <brimstone> talk to dad
2012-10-20T14:33:54  <brimstone> he controls the invites
2012-10-20T14:33:58  <sdodson_> I am your dad!
2012-10-20T14:34:03  <brimstone> oh snap
2012-10-20T14:35:34  <sdodson_> Pandaboard uses TI OMAP4
2012-10-20T15:53:15  <RangerZ> which is why Amazon looking to buy TI, might not be great...
2012-10-20T15:54:33  <brimstone> haha, "can we just.. buy them?"
2012-10-20T15:56:01  <sdodson_> RangerZ: why wouldn't that be great?
2012-10-20T15:56:54  <RangerZ> if amazon gets into the mobile patent thicket war, they could decide to close/stop production of omap4, etc
2012-10-20T15:57:05  <RangerZ> or stop future versions
2012-10-20T15:57:11  <RangerZ> hard to tell what amazon would do
2012-10-20T15:57:48  <RangerZ> I'm not saying it _is_ going to be bad, just uncertain, b/c they don't have a history when it comes to chip manf. companies AFAIK
2012-10-20T16:32:18  <sdodson_> Does closed source ARM really matter?
2012-10-20T16:32:21  <sdodson_> ARM is an open spec.
2012-10-20T16:34:36  <aestetix> so uh
2012-10-20T16:34:47  <aestetix> wilpig_: who do I ask about getting a ride from the airport? ;)
2012-10-20T16:34:53  <sdodson_> aestetix: yeah? going to say something profound like "vagina" ?
2012-10-20T16:35:04  <sdodson_> oh, boring
2012-10-20T16:35:20  <aestetix> sdodson_: sorry to get your hopes up
2012-10-20T16:35:45  <sdodson_> aestetix: it's alright, I'm accustomed to you letting me down. :)
2012-10-20T17:25:29  <er|c> is that a euphemism
2012-10-20T17:25:58  <RangerZ> aestetix: 615-333-3333
2012-10-20T17:26:11  <RangerZ> cab company with a great phone # , lol
2012-10-20T17:28:10  <RangerZ> ok... so I have an Android C.R.U.D. template that uses all the new Android 3.0+ features that make it async/fast and state-reliable
2012-10-20T17:28:27  <er|c> give it to me
2012-10-20T17:28:42  <RangerZ> ohh, don't worry... i'm going to make a generator
2012-10-20T17:29:15  <RangerZ> but... I don't even want to think about how to turn this into a template.... b/c it is like 20x 300~400 line files
2012-10-20T17:29:27  <er|c> whats it do
2012-10-20T17:29:56  <er|c> why cant you give me what you have
2012-10-20T17:30:01  <RangerZ> same app works on tablets and phones, with custom layouts for each (included already in the same APK )
2012-10-20T17:30:34  <RangerZ> b/c I'm going to pull a Shuttleworth and say that internal development work is not open to the public ;)
2012-10-20T17:30:41  <er|c> NOW
2012-10-20T17:31:12  <er|c> come on just tar/zip it up
2012-10-20T17:32:32  <RangerZ> When I'm done, you'll generate the entire app from a single contract file, just need to get there
2012-10-20T17:32:49  <RangerZ> then can edit it from there
2012-10-20T17:33:04  <er|c> ok
2012-10-20T17:33:24  <er|c> well that sounds awesome
2012-10-20T17:33:51  <er|c> you have built the necessary demand
2012-10-20T17:33:57  <er|c> now please to be doing the needful
2012-10-20T17:35:07  <RangerZ> well it will tie into AMMO too
2012-10-20T17:35:26  <RangerZ> which handles all the distribution of information across android devices
2012-10-20T17:35:40  <RangerZ> via contracts also
2012-10-20T17:35:47  <RangerZ> so dynamic , etc
2012-10-20T17:38:52  <RangerZ> but if they decide to not incorporate it into that, I'd probably try to just make it my own project
2012-10-20T17:39:00  <RangerZ> but Vandy gets first dibs on anything I do
2012-10-20T17:40:33  <RangerZ> b/c i've spent almost every waking hour coding this example over and over from the ground up, trying to do "best practices" along the way
2012-10-20T17:40:45  <RangerZ> and honestly... there are crap android examples out there that are even slightly complicated
2012-10-20T17:46:19  <RangerZ> hmmm... String Template doesn't look 'that' hard...  might not be 'that' bad
2012-10-20T17:51:08  <er|c> why can't you just give me the code dammit
2012-10-20T17:52:19  <sdodson_> RangerZ: what did shuttleworth do?
2012-10-20T17:52:46  <er|c> uh oh ubuntu fanboy has awoken
2012-10-20T17:53:03  <RangerZ> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/10/19/2129250/ubuntu-isnt-becoming-less-open-says-shuttleworth
2012-10-20T17:53:04  <GateKeeper> Title: Ubuntu Isn't Becoming Less Open, Says Shuttleworth - Slashdot (at linux.slashdot.org)
2012-10-20T17:53:22  <RangerZ> but he FUBARd his first statement at the VERY least
2012-10-20T17:53:29  <brimstone> yeah, they're totally open about how they're screwing it up
2012-10-20T17:53:48  <sdodson_> er|c: shush
2012-10-20T17:54:20  <RangerZ> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3197723&cid=41711199
2012-10-20T17:54:21  <GateKeeper> Title: Ubuntu Isn't Becoming Less Open, Says Shuttleworth - Slashdot (at linux.slashdot.org)
2012-10-20T17:54:24  <RangerZ> thats my 2cents on it
2012-10-20T17:57:18  <sdodson_> ugh, more ubuntardism
2012-10-20T17:57:55  <RangerZ> personally I wish ubuntu all the greatest, etc
2012-10-20T17:58:02  <RangerZ> 10.04 was pretty nice for me
2012-10-20T17:58:12  <RangerZ> but unity makes being actually productive harder
2012-10-20T17:58:28  <er|c> you don't have to use unity
2012-10-20T17:59:14  <RangerZ> yeah I know, but I don't really care about customization as much as I 'should' while being a linux user
2012-10-20T17:59:28  <RangerZ> i want good defaults, and THEN customizable as an option
2012-10-20T17:59:53  <er|c> you sound like a windows user
2012-10-20T18:00:04  <RangerZ> good
2012-10-20T18:00:24  <er|c> so use windows
2012-10-20T18:00:24  <RangerZ> b/c "linux on the desktop" will suck until it is like that
2012-10-20T18:00:42  <er|c> my linux desktop is great
2012-10-20T18:00:49  <er|c> i dont need any improvements
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2012-10-20T18:01:27  <RangerZ> I _USE_ ubuntu, i don't get ubuntu to have something to alter/customize/etc until i'm happy, THEN do work
2012-10-20T18:02:08  <er|c> sure i installed the latest ubuntu in a vm the other day and was up and coding in 5minutes
2012-10-20T18:02:16  <er|c> ctrl+shift+t hasn't changed
2012-10-20T18:03:00  <er|c> there was some bar on the left side that squished around when you hovered over it but i didn't need it for anything
2012-10-20T18:04:14  <er|c> the reason i run my own stack is because in the end it is much more productive than the noob options you want
2012-10-20T18:05:24  <er|c> don't try to blame ubuntu because you don't know what you're doing
2012-10-20T18:06:15  <RangerZ> ohh I know what I'm doing, I just don't think that I should have to go out of my way to do the things that I would need to
2012-10-20T18:07:05  <RangerZ> i've had this argument before, and it basically boils down to linux needing either better install prompt options, or more sane defaults (which honestly I think 10.04 had)
2012-10-20T18:07:25  <er|c> you sound like an old curmudgeon who hates change
2012-10-20T18:07:41  <er|c> how much did you pay for the linux you're complaining about
2012-10-20T18:08:55  <er|c> when is the last time you contributed something to the linux desktop project
2012-10-20T18:08:55  <RangerZ> thats a red herring, b/c you know most people don't pay USD for support, but 'paying' can also be factored by hassle/time/ and other non-monetary  resources
2012-10-20T18:09:23  <er|c> its not a red herring
2012-10-20T18:09:30  <RangerZ> I do bug reports when I find one, and I contribute to the FSF
2012-10-20T18:10:02  <RangerZ> my development hasn't been at all towards desktop UIs, so no interest in direct code development there
2012-10-20T18:10:05  <er|c> what projects does the FSF fund again?
2012-10-20T18:10:37  <er|c> http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-projects/
2012-10-20T18:10:38  <GateKeeper> Title: High Priority Free Software Projects Free Software Foundation working together for free software (at www.fsf.org)
2012-10-20T18:10:52  <er|c> yea none of that relates to what you're complaining about so you no longer have a right to an opinion
2012-10-20T18:11:03  <er|c> COMPLAINT REVOKED
2012-10-20T18:11:24  <RangerZ> who is being elitist now? lol
2012-10-20T18:11:40  <Corydon76-home> He's not being elitist; he's trolling you.
2012-10-20T18:11:46  <Corydon76-home> It's the only thing he ever does.
2012-10-20T18:12:23  <RangerZ> ehh
2012-10-20T18:13:12  <RangerZ> Try to have a legit convo on the pros/cons of things... how dare I, lol
2012-10-20T18:14:18  <er|c> don't listen to Corydon76-home he's full of animosity because he hates himself
2012-10-20T18:15:39  <er|c> my point is, i'm happy with linux today. i don't see how gaining a critical mass of freeloading idiots is going to further the development of linux.
2012-10-20T18:15:56  <RangerZ> then you don't really understand economics
2012-10-20T18:16:14  <RangerZ> why do you think that Steam looking into a linux client is such a big deal then
2012-10-20T18:16:15  <er|c> i think i do
2012-10-20T18:16:33  <RangerZ> graphics driver improvements alone is worth it
2012-10-20T18:17:00  <er|c> pc gaming is dead
2012-10-20T18:17:10  <RangerZ> yeah...
2012-10-20T18:17:32  <RangerZ> they have said that for a long time now
2012-10-20T18:18:20  <er|c> well its dead to me, i dont play pc games
2012-10-20T18:18:33  <RangerZ> so does anyone use String Template at all?
2012-10-20T18:18:47  <RangerZ> is using 3 or 4 the better suggestion?
2012-10-20T18:19:15  <er|c> no one here knows anything about android development
2012-10-20T18:19:24  <RangerZ> StringTemplate isn't android
2012-10-20T18:19:29  <RangerZ> it is the backend for antlr
2012-10-20T18:20:02  <er|c> no one here knows anything about NLP
2012-10-20T18:20:15  <er|c> but antlr looks cool
2012-10-20T18:22:40  <er|c> https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/580825_10151207972319723_177123569_n.jpg
2012-10-20T18:40:22  <Bahhumbug> Sigh... Wake up to see shitbuntu pollution all over my screen.
2012-10-20T18:40:27  * Bahhumbug goes to find the Windex.
2012-10-20T18:52:34  <er|c> who woke up the troll
2012-10-20T19:47:46  <sdodson_> er|c: Most of the newest titles are first made for PC and then downgraded to work on current consoles.
2012-10-20T19:59:06  <RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYtdBAdHbgE& thats actually going to get him quite a bit of support in Ohio
2012-10-20T19:59:07  <GateKeeper> Title: Character - Obama for America TV Ad - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
2012-10-20T19:59:23  <RangerZ> John glenn is a living legend in ohio
2012-10-20T20:02:50  <er|c> sdodson_: like what?
2012-10-20T20:03:36  <er|c> have you tried happy wars
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2012-10-20T20:11:47  <er|c> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC78h91BKcs
2012-10-20T20:11:48  <GateKeeper> Title: A Very Safe Russian Slide. - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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2012-10-20T20:45:34  <wilpig_> er|c: that made my butthole clench
2012-10-20T20:46:55  <er|c> round 3? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdsryZINo3Y&feature=related
2012-10-20T20:46:57  <GateKeeper> Title: Russian Rope Swing #2 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
2012-10-20T20:49:57  <sdodson_> russians are nuts
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2012-10-20T21:44:45  <RangerZ> its been a while since I've seen something like this http://www.lolthere.com/id-365.html that has actually made me speechless
2012-10-20T21:44:46  <GateKeeper> Title: Gang Rape Logic - LOLthere (at www.lolthere.com)
2012-10-20T21:51:53  <Dolemite> RangerZ: I thought you said you'd signed up as a volunteer for PN16?
2012-10-20T21:52:25  <RangerZ> not yet, i should
2012-10-20T21:52:31  <Dolemite> Yes, you should
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2012-10-20T22:04:55  <sdodson_> http://www.lolthere.com/id-651.html
2012-10-20T22:04:56  <GateKeeper> Title: My new wifi name - LOLthere (at www.lolthere.com)
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2012-10-20T22:12:54  <wilpig> Dolemite: I had two other keys for you
2012-10-20T22:13:02  <wilpig> I had scott@home and scott@milliken
2012-10-20T22:13:30  <wilpig> you should be good now
2012-10-20T22:18:39  <er|c> cool got my reprap fired up again
2012-10-20T22:18:47  <er|c> time to print some raspi cases
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2012-10-20T22:23:27  <sdodson_> er|c: what you doing with raspi and those stepper motors?
2012-10-20T22:37:08  <ware> wee
2012-10-20T22:57:23  <er|c> hm. raspi isn't useful for cnc type stuff
2012-10-20T22:57:29  <er|c> not enough pins
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2012-10-20T22:58:10  <er|c> the stepper motors are prob for a shapeoko cnc mill
2012-10-20T22:58:28  <er|c> but idk yet i want to have a 4th axis mill
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