2012-08-15T00:00:27  <rhia> 1.) there are students in Canada who walk to school, 2.) students in Ohio, when below 0, have alternate forms of transportation - still not seeing the argument of "public safety"
2012-08-15T00:01:35  <RangerZ> 2) actually thats not true, i walked to school for 8 years, i lived within a mile of my elementary/middle school
2012-08-15T00:01:48  <RangerZ> but that 'zone of walkers' is variable
2012-08-15T00:01:49  <rhia> RangerZ: in Seattle, they close for "public safety" because no-one here has a clue how to drive in snow+ice+really-fucking-steep-hills and even the buses have to be rescued --- translated:
2012-08-15T00:02:31  <rhia> even in Seattle, "public safety" is a BS argument to cover ineptitude or laziness
2012-08-15T00:03:13  <rhia> do the schools in Finland close below 0?  (no)
2012-08-15T00:03:38  <Corydon76-home> Neither do the schools in Minneapolis
2012-08-15T00:04:30  <rhia> RangerZ: you did have alternate transport - your parents just couldn't be bothered
2012-08-15T00:04:32  <Corydon76-home> One of the headlines of the St Paul Pioneer Press a few years ago was "20 above paralyzes DC"
2012-08-15T00:04:53  <Corydon76-home> Meanwhile it was something on the order of -40 and kids still went to school
2012-08-15T00:04:59  <RangerZ> actually no, since she was at work, but thats not really the point
2012-08-15T00:05:35  <RangerZ> but thats is more of an issue when i was in middle school, but w/e
2012-08-15T00:05:51  <RangerZ> 0 is for state univ.
2012-08-15T00:06:17  <RangerZ> the temp doesn't really have any bearing on local school districts, they base it on local road conditions
2012-08-15T00:06:20  <rhia> RangerZ: i will grant your assertion, for you, if you lived closer to the school than ANY neighbor you had, if you only had one parent, and if no other form of transport, including taxis or snowplows existed
2012-08-15T00:07:16  <rhia> RangerZ: it's not for "public safety" - its for convience and the lesser of the headaches
2012-08-15T00:08:50  <rhia> (left out a few vowels, sigh)
2012-08-15T00:10:14  <rhia> Corydon76-home: yep
2012-08-15T00:10:35  * rhia hugs RangerZ  
2012-08-15T00:10:48  <RangerZ> lol
2012-08-15T00:10:50  <rhia> just arguing semantics
2012-08-15T00:11:01  <RangerZ> my g/f would get jealous of that
2012-08-15T00:11:02  <RangerZ> lol
2012-08-15T00:11:20  * wilpig_ hugs RangerZ a little too long
2012-08-15T00:11:41  <rhia> RangerZ: if your g/f is jealous of a middleaged married gal, not my problem
2012-08-15T00:12:07  <wilpig_> middleaged..  pfffft  you're married to a dragon.  you have no age
2012-08-15T00:12:57  <rhia> you sweet talking piggy, still not helping your cause,  and get off my leg
2012-08-15T00:13:00  <RangerZ> and MA_dragon_ILF
2012-08-15T00:13:14  <RangerZ> and MA_dragonese*_ILF i guess would be more accurate
2012-08-15T00:13:23  * wilpig_ grumbles and walks off
2012-08-15T00:16:06  <rhia> wilpig_: how goes the data access?
2012-08-15T00:16:36  <NotLarry> "he is a 26 year old who has driven 5 hours to have sex with a girl posing as a 13 year old."  Wow, I never thought if posing as a 13 year old.
2012-08-15T00:17:22  <rhia> NotLarry: but your pics are so believable!
2012-08-15T00:17:51  <rhia> he could swear you look over 18!!!
2012-08-15T00:19:01  <wilpig_> stalled.
2012-08-15T00:19:11  <wilpig_> moved it back over to the other server.  cloning one of my vms now
2012-08-15T00:19:27  <rhia> NotLarry: just wait, the boobs will come in any time now
2012-08-15T00:19:49  <wilpig_>  33%   10GB  19.1MB/s   18:00 ETA
2012-08-15T00:26:01  <wilpig_> NotLarry: did you ever hear from joe mccray?
2012-08-15T00:26:16  <Dagmar> Goddamnit I hate DiamondIP so much
2012-08-15T00:28:33  <wilpig_> the timey-whimy of doctor who? oh boy
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2012-08-15T00:43:28  <NotLarry> nope.  Emailed him.  Never got a response.
2012-08-15T00:45:41  <RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxYgsyKXQVg wow...
2012-08-15T00:45:42  <GateKeeper> Title: Baby Shark Song - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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2012-08-15T01:58:16  <Bahhumbug> Dagmar: But it LOVES you so much.  Without lube, too.
2012-08-15T01:59:11  <wilpig_> it uses sand for lube
2012-08-15T01:59:58  <Bahhumbug> Bonus!
2012-08-15T02:02:24  <wilpig_> as much as I hate the commercial.  god damn if ruffles didn't make an amazing dip
2012-08-15T02:04:08  <wilpig_> http://www.fritolay.com/our-snacks/ruffles-ultimate-smokehouse-bacon-dip.html
2012-08-15T02:04:09  <GateKeeper> Title: RUFFLES® Ultimate Smokehouse Bacon Dip (at www.fritolay.com)
2012-08-15T02:41:47  <wilpig_> Dagmar: http://gothsinhotweather.blogspot.com/
2012-08-15T02:41:49  <GateKeeper> Title: Goths In Hot Weather (at gothsinhotweather.blogspot.com)
2012-08-15T02:52:44  <Catonic> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
2012-08-15T02:53:34  <Catonic> reddit, jason mewes
2012-08-15T02:54:06  <wilpig_> oh noes
2012-08-15T02:54:09  <wilpig_> i've been discovered
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2012-08-15T07:30:30  <Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
2012-08-15T07:30:56  <wilpig_> shut it fat man!
2012-08-15T07:31:16  <Dolemite> Shat yer pie hole!
2012-08-15T07:32:13  <wilpig_> I do a google image search for "woman in bubble bath" and I get this http://www.essentialstyleformen.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Arthur_Wallpaper_Bathtub_1280x1024-1024x819.jpg
2012-08-15T07:32:50  <Dolemite> um...   yeah
2012-08-15T07:35:19  <wilpig_> I solved the front / rear thing last night.  mostly
2012-08-15T07:35:38  <Dolemite> Ah, you finally found a girl willing to let you try it all?
2012-08-15T07:35:49  <Dolemite> Oh, wait, you mean...   nevermind.
2012-08-15T07:35:55  <wilpig_> I had one of those.  she just let everyone else do that too
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2012-08-15T07:42:22  <Dolemite> http://www.geekologie.com/2012/08/wtf-invite-me-next-time-family-of-bears.php
2012-08-15T07:42:23  <GateKeeper> Title: WTF, Guys? Invite Me Next Time: Family Of Bears Break Into Norgwegian Cabin, Chug 100 Beers, Trash The Place | Geekologie (at www.geekologie.com)
2012-08-15T07:42:40  <Dolemite> Now *THAT* sounds like the PhreakNIC I used to know.  lol
2012-08-15T07:44:05  <wilpig_> i'm amazed...
2012-08-15T07:44:15  <wilpig_> I make the tool MORONPROOF
2012-08-15T07:44:20  <wilpig_> and we built a better fucking moron
2012-08-15T07:44:27  <wilpig_> Firewall Services: Breakfix #24055
2012-08-15T07:44:52  <Dolemite> facepalm
2012-08-15T07:45:30  <wilpig_> I want to message him and ask just how the fuck he managed such a feat but I don't think I want to know the answer
2012-08-15T07:45:43  <Dolemite> which one was it this time?
2012-08-15T07:46:09  <wilpig_> new guy
2012-08-15T07:46:11  <wilpig_> brian
2012-08-15T07:46:18  <wilpig_> the one I have seen all of twice since he was hired
2012-08-15T07:46:31  <Dolemite> ah, the one being trained by the old man
2012-08-15T07:46:38  <wilpig_> and the morons
2012-08-15T07:47:01  <wilpig_> I swear I just rewrote that tool to make sure that stupid wasn't able to be sent out and he managed.
2012-08-15T07:48:12  <wilpig_> heh http://ladymerlin.com/photos/main.php?g2_itemId=3680
2012-08-15T07:48:27  <GateKeeper> Title: 100_0738.JPG (at ladymerlin.com)
2012-08-15T07:49:22  <wilpig_> this should probably be my profile pic on a few sites.  http://ladymerlin.com/photos/main.php?g2_itemId=3665
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2012-08-15T07:49:37  <GateKeeper> Title: 100_0733.JPG (at ladymerlin.com)
2012-08-15T07:49:50  <Dolemite> Man, there's a big ol' shake-up going on at Y-12.  Who would've thought that na 82 year old nun could wreak such havoc.  lol
2012-08-15T07:50:25  <Dolemite> I imagine that within 30 days there will be a new contractor over there, and Wackenhut will be gone gone gone.
2012-08-15T07:51:16  <Dolemite> I've still got the picture of you wearing the hair and beard nets on your contact entry.
2012-08-15T07:51:30  <Dolemite> But yeah, you holding Superman's codpiece is a good one
2012-08-15T07:52:15  <wilpig_> I've got those somewhere.  Ilooked the other day and couldn't find them
2012-08-15T07:56:50  <wilpig_> oh yeah.  I did expand the db by one field too
2012-08-15T07:58:00  <Dolemite> Pretty much what we discussed?
2012-08-15T07:58:16  <wilpig_> essentially
2012-08-15T07:58:47  <wilpig_> added the field to track rearslots.  on child devices if it is a front device slots is 0.  if rear 1
2012-08-15T08:00:49  <wilpig_> changed the child db search to order by #ofslots first then whatever it was doing before.  so it would group all the front devices together then the rear
2012-08-15T08:07:59  <Dolemite> heh, search is a mess in and of itself
2012-08-15T08:09:47  <wilpig_> how so?
2012-08-15T08:09:58  <wilpig_> the change I made shouldn't have had any effect there
2012-08-15T08:10:43  <Dolemite> Oh, you said you changed the child db search, I figured you were talking about search.php
2012-08-15T08:10:54  <wilpig_> no.  search.php works fine
2012-08-15T08:11:04  <wilpig_> method::getchilddevices
2012-08-15T08:11:07  <Dolemite> Yes, it works fine, but it's till a big mess
2012-08-15T08:11:12  <Dolemite> still
2012-08-15T08:11:26  <wilpig_> it's a mess but it works and was the easiest way to go about it
2012-08-15T08:15:38  <wilpig_>  my picopc got here yesterday
2012-08-15T08:15:46  <wilpig_> got it all installed and mostly working last night
2012-08-15T08:15:55  <Dolemite> that what you were putting CentOS on?
2012-08-15T08:15:58  <wilpig_> yeah
2012-08-15T08:16:33  <wilpig_> samba is on it and setup for readonly guest access to the existing content and read/write for a drop zone
2012-08-15T08:16:58  <wilpig_> gonna give it an ftp, maybe apache, and probably an nfs guest mount
2012-08-15T08:22:37  <wilpig_> dem's birthday is coming up on the 28th
2012-08-15T08:22:51  <wilpig_> going get make me a bowl of cereal and get into bed
2012-08-15T08:23:01  <Dolemite> later
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2012-08-15T10:19:36  <Catonic> sheeet
2012-08-15T10:23:56  <CNwaV> sheet, sheet, guard dogs
2012-08-15T10:24:22  <Dagmar>  wtf mang
2012-08-15T10:24:27  <Dagmar> (just kidding)
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2012-08-15T11:25:52  <Catonic> Dagmar: what's that from?
2012-08-15T11:30:28  <Dagmar> [Helzibah(~helzibah@unaffiliated/helzibah)] but you know, thanks for the thought
2012-08-15T11:30:31  <Dagmar> bleh
2012-08-15T11:30:34  <Dagmar> -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- You have been deopped on #se2600 by brimstone
2012-08-15T11:30:39  <Dagmar> That.
2012-08-15T11:30:46  *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Dagmar
2012-08-15T11:30:48  <brimstone> you can't prove anything
2012-08-15T11:30:59  <Dagmar> Chanserv wouldn't lie to me
2012-08-15T11:31:13  <brimstone> it's a machine, of course it lies to you
2012-08-15T11:31:17  <Dagmar> Newp
2012-08-15T11:31:32  <brimstone> it has no incentive to tell the truth
2012-08-15T11:31:39  <Dagmar> Man I gotta rip that bike's engine apart
2012-08-15T11:31:59  <Dagmar> Maybe soak it in boiling carb cleaner or something'
2012-08-15T11:32:32  <Dagmar> Twice on the way in something went weird with either the choke or throttle--the engine suddenly drops to just-above-idle, and the throttle doesn't do fuck
2012-08-15T11:32:55  <Dagmar> I give it a moment (on the side of the road), it starts back up
2012-08-15T11:40:26  <Catonic> this was a triump
2012-08-15T11:40:40  * brimstone makes a note here, don't let Catonic sing
2012-08-15T11:41:08  <Catonic> now I only want you gone.
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2012-08-15T11:50:21  <Dagmar> Oh that's singing?
2012-08-15T11:50:31  <Dagmar> Doesn't that usually require getting the lyrics right?
2012-08-15T11:50:43  <opticron> not particularly
2012-08-15T12:22:17  <RangerZ> + 1 internet victories http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120814/14544720050/famous-prankster-internet-hijacks-another-promotional-campaign.shtml
2012-08-15T12:22:18  <GateKeeper> Title: Famous Prankster The Internet Hijacks Another Promotional Campaign | Techdirt (at www.techdirt.com)
2012-08-15T12:50:53  <CNwaV> that is damn funny
2012-08-15T12:50:57  <CNwaV> diabeetus
2012-08-15T12:51:13  <CNwaV> or "hitler did nothing wrong"
2012-08-15T12:55:53  <RangerZ> mountain jew
2012-08-15T12:55:54  <RangerZ> etc
2012-08-15T13:27:20  <Dickie> fapple
2012-08-15T13:28:09  <MaxieZ> I like "methamphetagreen"
2012-08-15T13:28:15  <MaxieZ> I could see that actually happening.
2012-08-15T13:35:02  <CNwaV> i didnt see that one
2012-08-15T13:37:36  <CNwaV> i would drink it
2012-08-15T13:40:11  <aestetix> mountain jew
2012-08-15T13:40:12  <aestetix> hahaha
2012-08-15T14:04:48  <CNwaV> moses was the OG mountain Jew
2012-08-15T14:04:51  <sasquatc4> http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/contract/?contractId=743474
2012-08-15T14:04:52  <GateKeeper> Title: Intrade - Barack Obama to be re-elected President in 2012 (at www.intrade.com)
2012-08-15T14:04:54  <sasquatc4> you can bet on the election?
2012-08-15T14:05:06  <Dickie> I would.
2012-08-15T14:05:49  <sasquatc4> from the rules they payout 10$/share if your shares win?
2012-08-15T14:06:11  <aestetix> wow
2012-08-15T14:06:15  <aestetix> is that like horse races
2012-08-15T14:06:31  <sasquatc4> i dunno, but looks like they have all sorts of bets on crap on there
2012-08-15T14:07:07  <sasquatc4> oooh, they have a 5$/mo fee for being signed up
2012-08-15T14:07:34  <sasquatc4> unless you have no money in your acct, in that case it isnt charged
2012-08-15T14:07:38  <CNwaV> sounds like a sure thing to me ;)
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2012-08-15T15:01:08  <RangerZ> sasquatc4: the irish bookies have bet on US elections for a while
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2012-08-15T15:08:46  <CNwaV> so racist
2012-08-15T15:09:32  <CNwaV> you are so racist i bet you are a jew
2012-08-15T15:09:38  <CNwaV> j/k
2012-08-15T15:20:13  <RangerZ> don't say that, i'm not unfair like that
2012-08-15T15:20:19  <RangerZ> i'd make fun of any religion
2012-08-15T15:21:22  <RangerZ> other than druids
2012-08-15T15:22:30  <RangerZ> b/c even the ancient Christian church admitted they were almost as powerful as their own god in their destructive power, just not as good in the creative powers
2012-08-15T15:32:36  <RangerZ> so i want to point out that japanese makes my head hurt some times with the same word having possibly dozens of meanings http://www.eudict.com/?lang=japeng&word=aku has 5 completely different meanings
2012-08-15T15:32:37  <GateKeeper> Title: EUdict | aku | Japanese-English dictionary (at www.eudict.com)
2012-08-15T15:38:20  <CNwaV> the japanese are a tricky lot
2012-08-15T15:39:56  <Bahhumbug> And English is so much better in that regard?
2012-08-15T15:41:18  <Dagmar> our porno is less rapetacular
2012-08-15T16:01:49  <CNwaV> yeah, our porno sucks compared to theirs
2012-08-15T16:03:43  <CNwaV> i want 27 girls .5 cup
2012-08-15T16:04:37  <CNwaV> ls | xargs -I {} grep -l -v eFilm {} | xargs -I {} mv {} ../
2012-08-15T16:04:47  <CNwaV> grm... damn paste shortcut
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2012-08-15T16:58:05  <Dagmar> I know what RHEL4 needs.
2012-08-15T16:58:25  <Dagmar> It needs a fucking CPAN module called Install::Cpan::FuckingAllOfIt
2012-08-15T16:58:55  <Dagmar> Trying to install Term::Terminfo for someone, and jesus holy christ... the dependencies go on forever
2012-08-15T17:00:32  <RangerZ> the R module dependencies are like that... you pick the wrong one... and god help you
2012-08-15T17:01:15  <RangerZ> if i had billion dollars i'd pay some real software engineers to go through the R code, and make it actually useful
2012-08-15T17:01:57  <RangerZ> "...why would you want to have the ability to pass in variables to a function... when you can hard code it into the function..."
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2012-08-15T17:16:01  <Dagmar> "Test::Fatal [build_requires]"
2012-08-15T17:16:05  <Dagmar> o.O
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2012-08-15T17:53:23  <Bahhumbug> You know what RHEL4 needs?
2012-08-15T17:53:25  <Bahhumbug> To die.
2012-08-15T17:53:28  <Bahhumbug> In a fire.
2012-08-15T17:53:47  <Bahhumbug> CentOS 4 went EOL on 29 February 2012
2012-08-15T17:54:12  <Bahhumbug> And there's really no good reason to install from cpan.  Ever.
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2012-08-15T19:43:34  <RangerZ> https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/580757_385329594855013_1774839653_n.jpg lol
2012-08-15T19:43:44  <RangerZ> poor ryu (he'd have to be named ryu)
2012-08-15T19:45:04  <RangerZ> well ryuu , but w/e, lol
2012-08-15T20:07:20  <wilpig_> You're sending out a notice about "Blackberry management services"  You have a choice of Email, Web Services, or Misc  what do you choose?
2012-08-15T20:10:22  <Dagmar> Where's the fruit/vegetables category?
2012-08-15T20:11:27  <RangerZ> i would have used smoke signals
2012-08-15T20:11:41  <RangerZ> since people are just looking for smoke to come from the HQ of RIM
2012-08-15T20:13:07  <wilpig_> Dagmar: did you see this one yesterday?
2012-08-15T20:13:09  <wilpig_> Breakfix: SERVER GOES HERE(Its-Hcwnap72) - Restarting service (pertrac) - Service is affected
2012-08-15T20:13:27  <RangerZ> nice
2012-08-15T20:14:25  <wilpig_> make it idiot proof...  better idiot
2012-08-15T20:14:50  <Dagmar> Of course
2012-08-15T20:15:09  <wilpig_> btw that one was mongo
2012-08-15T20:16:21  <Dagmar> http://www.fannywang.com/
2012-08-15T20:16:22  <GateKeeper> Title: Fanny Wang | Welcome to FannyWang.com | Premium Headphones (at www.fannywang.com)
2012-08-15T20:16:27  <Dagmar> THeir site gets better every time I go there
2012-08-15T20:17:28  <wilpig_> hey dag, when you get time and feel like doing work stuff can you check teh schema info on mysql02.  still can't see its_dashboard even though I know it is there.  I'm not seeing it in the schema listing
2012-08-15T20:19:24  <wilpig_> or I can just put in a ticket and either you or mirage can get to it whenever
2012-08-15T20:19:37  <Dagmar> That would be the thing to do
2012-08-15T20:19:43  <wilpig_> otherwise I need to write something to go back and edit my service pairs due to mongo intervention
2012-08-15T20:19:46  <Dagmar> I don't even know offhand how to look up schemas yet
2012-08-15T20:19:52  <Dagmar> I'll be a'googling for that
2012-08-15T20:19:52  <wilpig_> SELECT DISTINCT TABLE_SCHEMA FROM `TABLES` WHERE `TABLE_SCHEMA` LIKE 'its_%'
2012-08-15T20:20:09  <wilpig_> no biggie.  ticket it'll go
2012-08-15T20:20:30  <Dagmar> *derp* describe its_dashboard;
2012-08-15T20:20:39  <Dagmar> *shrugs*
2012-08-15T20:20:48  <wilpig_> there is an easy way to rebuild the whole thing
2012-08-15T20:21:01  <wilpig_> I'm not sure if someone didn't filter it manually for some reason
2012-08-15T20:38:42  <wilpig_> how the hell do I send y'all tickets now?  we used to send those to the apphost queue
2012-08-15T20:39:52  <Dagmar> At the moment, assign them to EAI UNIX GROUP
2012-08-15T20:40:20  <wilpig_> gotcha.  thx
2012-08-15T20:40:24  <Dagmar> ...and probably send us the ticket number because Magic is in a bit of a snit at the moment
2012-08-15T20:40:56  <wilpig_> emailing now
2012-08-15T20:41:02  <Dagmar> Something corrupted the EAI UNIX group this morning and for about 2/3 of the day neither I nor Mirage could login to Magic
2012-08-15T20:42:31  <wilpig_> nice...
2012-08-15T20:42:47  <wilpig_> titus has several tickets locked even though he's gone
2012-08-15T20:47:35  <wilpig_> hrmm.  seems this is just a rights issue with phpmyadmin.  oh well.  i'll just write something quickly to make my edits
2012-08-15T20:47:50  <Dagmar> Oh.  I bet I know what he may have done
2012-08-15T20:48:17  <Dagmar> FF's normal popup blocker will let you block Magic's popups, which are (because they're idiots) how they _unlock_ tickets when you close the window
2012-08-15T20:48:27  <wilpig_> nice...
2012-08-15T20:48:39  <wilpig_> you're probably right
2012-08-15T20:48:48  <wilpig_> the first thing I did was unblock poopups for that site
2012-08-15T20:50:43  <wilpig_> rhia: this might be the answer to my question last night.  http://www.andremiller.net/content/mounting-hard-disk-image-including-partitions-using-linux
2012-08-15T20:50:44  <GateKeeper> Title: Mounting a hard disk image including partitions using Linux | andremiller.net (at www.andremiller.net)
2012-08-15T20:59:31  <eryc> wilpig_: do you have to unblock poopups alot?
2012-08-15T21:09:16  <wilpig_> no.  but for that particular application yeah
2012-08-15T21:18:31  <RangerZ> so with the change to Google Maps, http://tinyurl.com/8f2byaq this 120$ android phone with gps can now be used to download LARGE maps and use it as GPS turn by turn navigation, as an mp3 player and as an emergency phone
2012-08-15T21:18:33  <GateKeeper> Title: Virgin Mobile - LG Optimus Elite Mobile Phone - Black - Optimus Elite (at tinyurl.com)
2012-08-15T21:41:15  <wilpig_> not bad
2012-08-15T21:41:24  <wilpig_> but I already have a good gps and a cell phone
2012-08-15T21:53:33  <daswork> Gawd, tomorrow I have an interview with active directory and citrix.
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2012-08-15T22:34:09  <Catonic> XD
2012-08-15T22:34:15  <Catonic> http://i.imgur.com/7wBOV.jpg
2012-08-15T22:36:47  <Dagmar> Wow.  This Hulu ad is nuts
2012-08-15T22:37:02  <Dagmar> Vyvance.  Which is a methamphetamine
2012-08-15T22:37:22  <Dagmar> *Most* of the commercial was a big blond woman talking about all the horrible things that can happen to you for taking it
2012-08-15T22:39:07  <Bahhumbug> Oh hey!  It's mercster!
2012-08-15T22:43:11  <Dagmar> Not in here it's not
2012-08-15T22:43:26  <Dagmar> I actually have him on a shitlist in my client
2012-08-15T22:44:13  <Catonic> I've got a problem
2012-08-15T22:44:32  <Catonic> when I run a command, it creates a device node... but I can't figure out how or what it's using to create that node
2012-08-15T22:44:56  <Catonic> Dagmar: it's not METH but definately amphetamine
2012-08-15T22:45:33  <Catonic> it's a pro-drug that the body turns into amphetamine.. supposely an abuse-resistant drug
2012-08-15T22:45:55  <Dagmar> Except they said outright it could cause terrible addictions and sudden death
2012-08-15T22:46:34  <Catonic> yeah... any of that schedule II stuff will ... stimulants are dangerous
2012-08-15T22:46:51  <Catonic> medical science gave us REALLY GREAT METH
2012-08-15T22:47:01  <Catonic> and meth is a horrible drug.
2012-08-15T22:58:39  <Catonic> CUNT
2012-08-15T22:58:47  <Catonic> smartd can die in a fire
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2012-08-15T23:10:25  <Bahhumbug> I was talking about the pantsless guy in the imgur image.
2012-08-15T23:17:31  <Dagmar> Catonic: WTF device node
2012-08-15T23:17:58  <Dagmar> Are you reading from /dev/pts or something?
2012-08-15T23:18:37  <Catonic> I see it in /proc/devices, but udev isn't making a node for it
2012-08-15T23:18:52  <Catonic> megaraid_sas_ioctl_node
2012-08-15T23:18:58  <Dagmar> It lacks a matching entry for it in the udev rules
2012-08-15T23:19:21  <Dagmar> They're basically a pile of shell scripts.
2012-08-15T23:19:35  <Dagmar> You can just look at the format they use and create your own entry pretty easily
2012-08-15T23:19:47  <Dagmar> It'll make udev create device nodes when the device is enumerated
2012-08-15T23:20:36  <Catonic> enumerated?
2012-08-15T23:20:49  <Catonic> I'm pretty freaking lost.
2012-08-15T23:21:40  <Catonic> major is 248, minot 0...
2012-08-15T23:22:00  <Catonic> *minor. shows up in /proc/devices as such... but no device node is created.
2012-08-15T23:22:22  <Catonic> the part I'm missing here from your statement is ... when/how is it enumerated?
2012-08-15T23:22:48  <Catonic> udevadm is pretty ignorant of it, so udevadm info is useles
2012-08-15T23:27:34  <Dagmar> Which bus is it on?  USB or PCI?
2012-08-15T23:27:43  <Catonic> pci
2012-08-15T23:27:57  <Catonic> pci-x, but .. youknw
2012-08-15T23:28:30  <Dagmar> Yeah, so you'll find rather a large number of rules under /lib/udev/rules.d on most machines
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2012-08-15T23:29:16  <Dagmar> Generally you don't even have to get that explicit, just make it modprobe the relevant driver
2012-08-15T23:29:54  <Catonic> how can I find out how/where the device is attached?
2012-08-15T23:30:17  <Dagmar> Is it showing up in lspci?
2012-08-15T23:30:35  <Catonic> yes. XD
2012-08-15T23:30:49  <Catonic> So now I need to feed that into a udev rule.
2012-08-15T23:30:56  <Dagmar> Then frankly I'd take a look at the driver docs
2012-08-15T23:31:02  <Catonic> Kernel driver in use: megaraid_sas
2012-08-15T23:31:02  <Catonic> Kernel modules: megaraid_sas
2012-08-15T23:31:38  <Catonic> but ... it doesn't need a device node to work... so I guess this is a case of no device node created for the driver.
2012-08-15T23:31:50  <RangerZ> so is anyone familiar with using eclipse with git as the repo?
2012-08-15T23:32:18  <RangerZ> i'm getting sick and tired of .profile files being sent by someone else and messing up my build path
2012-08-15T23:32:33  <RangerZ> is there a way to block them from being pulled?
2012-08-15T23:33:29  <RangerZ> does .gitignore also work on pulls?
2012-08-15T23:33:38  <Dagmar> Catonic: really.  Doesn't need one to work.  Then how do you interact with it?
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2012-08-15T23:34:14  <Catonic> that's the problem. some programs need the device node to work. one of them creates it, the other does not.
2012-08-15T23:34:24  <Dagmar> It looks to me like it probably masquerades as a SCSI device
2012-08-15T23:34:49  <Catonic> character device
2012-08-15T23:36:50  <Catonic> the cheap hack (used by one of the programmers of the above utility) is simply mknod $fixed_num 0 $device_nam,e
2012-08-15T23:37:42  <Dagmar> hal-find-by-capability --capability storage
2012-08-15T23:38:04  <Dagmar> USing the number there you can find it in the gory details of lshal's output
2012-08-15T23:38:22  <Dagmar> It will tell you stuff like what device nodes or sysfs interfaces are managed
2012-08-15T23:38:45  <Catonic> XD hal not installed
2012-08-15T23:39:13  <Dagmar> Old machine?
2012-08-15T23:39:22  <Catonic> fucking Centos 6.3
2012-08-15T23:39:41  <Catonic> minimal install
2012-08-15T23:39:50  <Dagmar> well, that was smart
2012-08-15T23:39:59  <Catonic> "fucking install already!!! *clickclickclick*"
2012-08-15T23:40:00  <Dagmar> You might want to go yum install some hal packages
2012-08-15T23:40:10  <Catonic> already ahead of you
2012-08-15T23:40:22  <Dagmar> No wonder the thing wasn't creating devices
2012-08-15T23:40:23  <Dagmar> heh
2012-08-15T23:40:33  <Catonic> nah, this is an issue with this device
2012-08-15T23:40:44  * Catonic props a 1950 up for boomsticking
2012-08-15T23:40:52  <Catonic> FORE!
2012-08-15T23:41:20  <Dagmar> http://hwraid.le-vert.net/wiki/LSIMegaRAIDSAS
2012-08-15T23:41:23  <GateKeeper> Title: LSIMegaRAIDSAS – HWraid (at hwraid.le-vert.net)
2012-08-15T23:41:53  <Dagmar> I didn't realize you might not have the controlling software package
2012-08-15T23:42:02  <Catonic> btdt tonight
2012-08-15T23:43:45  <Catonic> oh.. found out my hoster thinks my backup script is a DDoS attempt. XD
2012-08-15T23:46:15  <Catonic> ok, found it in lspci... now I need to figure out what's unique and how to cram that into udev
2012-08-15T23:46:30  <Dagmar> Did you install _hal_ yet?
2012-08-15T23:46:48  <Catonic> go-go-gadget ssh connection!
2012-08-15T23:46:52  <Catonic> yarp
2012-08-15T23:47:26  <Dagmar> More details http://hwraid.le-vert.net/wiki/LSIMegaRAID
2012-08-15T23:47:27  <GateKeeper> Title: LSIMegaRAID – HWraid (at hwraid.le-vert.net)
2012-08-15T23:48:13  <Dagmar> The proprietary package should come with the necessary rules, or the tool will generate the device nodes and populate them
2012-08-15T23:48:41  <Dagmar> It would be a little pointless to present you with a disk interface until there's a raid slice defined
2012-08-15T23:48:52  <Catonic> aaaarg
2012-08-15T23:49:15  <Dagmar> We've got fiber storage at work that basically requires stuff like powermt to tell the controller driver what to do
2012-08-15T23:51:01  <Catonic> the tools are installed on the OTHER drive of the raid set that is currently out of the now-broken mirror
2012-08-15T23:51:25  <Dagmar> That's pro
2012-08-15T23:52:12  <Dagmar> Some people might um... go and download another copy
2012-08-15T23:52:44  <Dagmar> I mean you could continue to admire the the fact that the drivers are safe from accidental deletion
2012-08-15T23:58:08  <Catonic> yeah, megaraid is funny in that it works fine without _this_ device node... but you can't get anything out of it without it using OSS tools
2012-08-15T23:59:14  <Catonic> MegaCLI inspires uncouth commentary regarding the family tree and personal habits of the author and/or his pets, animals,the deceased, etc.