2012-08-11T00:02:51 *** stowbari has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2012-08-11T00:36:07 http://aestetix.tumblr.com/ (nsfw) 2012-08-11T00:36:08 Title: Aestetix (at aestetix.tumblr.com) 2012-08-11T00:36:12 I have nothing to do with this. 2012-08-11T00:36:16 As much as I wish I did. 2012-08-11T00:39:24 haven't we discussed that before? 2012-08-11T00:39:52 I was looking at it again 2012-08-11T00:46:29 Someone should remind him that claiming you're "acting" doesn't mean you're not a morbidly fat no-life with a lisp 2012-08-11T00:50:15 I hope he reads what I posted and cries his pudgy little eyes out 2012-08-11T00:50:24 For that I would post a video of me laughing at hime 2012-08-11T00:50:53 "YOUR SUFFERING IS LIKE SWEET AMBROSIA!" 2012-08-11T00:52:25 Hell I'm tempted to video a rebuttal from the bar I'm about to go out to 2012-08-11T00:52:26 loo 2012-08-11T00:52:27 l 2012-08-11T00:57:53 I wish he would have choked on that authenticator 2012-08-11T01:02:53 "it's because I was... dead." pete: "ahhh we're gonna play THAT card" 2012-08-11T01:40:41 so has anyone else watched the polling data for the election? 2012-08-11T01:41:05 nationally romney is still losing, but he's losing by almost double digits in the only two states that matter, OH and FL 2012-08-11T01:41:57 Fuckign radiator hose appears to have sprung a leak 2012-08-11T01:42:12 Of course, it might just be that with all the heat, my radiator has gotten close enough to empty for shit to boil 2012-08-11T01:42:17 on the scooter? 2012-08-11T01:42:34 or a real vehicle? 2012-08-11T01:42:37 No, it doesn't have one. It's got a large version of a CPU heat pipe array on it 2012-08-11T01:42:54 That engine doesn't even need active cooling 2012-08-11T01:43:04 thats all a radiator is, water cooled CPU heatsink 2012-08-11T01:43:05 lol 2012-08-11T01:43:26 Yea but in a car it'a got a can and requires antifreeze 2012-08-11T01:43:27 and yes... i did just describe a car part in terms of a computer part, lol 2012-08-11T01:43:38 er got a fan 2012-08-11T01:43:58 ohh then you don't have a high grade water cooled tower 2012-08-11T01:43:59 What's on the bike is more like an extra large Zalman cooler 2012-08-11T01:44:10 (neither do i, it is a waste, unless you want a ricer-tower) 2012-08-11T01:44:28 Fuck ricer kids 2012-08-11T01:44:36 I can go buy a stack of i7's if I feel like wasting money 2012-08-11T01:47:08 I prefer my shit to work 2012-08-11T01:47:28 I'm not about to burn it up overclocking it because I can't afford faster 2012-08-11T01:48:46 Hopefully I didn't lose the water pump or some shit 2012-08-11T01:48:51 *** RangerZ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2012-08-11T01:49:05 The car went from nothing to max temp and steam coming out in less than three miles 2012-08-11T01:49:28 Hopefully it's just that since I've not checked it in some time, it's just gotten _that_ low on water 2012-08-11T01:49:58 That system's not really meant to keep live steam pressurized 2012-08-11T01:58:13 Rommney has no chance, esp with the idiot that he choose as his VP candidate. Nor does he even have the nomination so it's still up for grabs. 2012-08-11T01:59:32 Oh, he comcrap'd out. 2012-08-11T02:00:00 Dagmar: you on the nlug mailing list? 2012-08-11T02:00:07 NOpe 2012-08-11T02:00:28 Is something not depressing happening on there? 2012-08-11T02:00:37 http://fpaste.org/IZzG/ 2012-08-11T02:00:38 Title: Viewing Paste #217346 (at fpaste.org) 2012-08-11T02:00:59 It's amusing in a "WTF, how stupid are you?" sorta way. 2012-08-11T02:01:39 And I 'spose it is also quite depressing when you realize that there are many people that would do this type of thing. 2012-08-11T02:01:59 Holy fuck 2012-08-11T02:02:19 He wants to automate server setup and he doesn't know how to create user accounts? 2012-08-11T02:02:29 A grown-up should intervene 2012-08-11T02:02:44 I almost moderated him. 2012-08-11T02:02:58 What the fuck "power" is in his hat anyway 2012-08-11T02:03:31 That mailing list has gone so far to shit in the past 5 or so years it's really sad. 2012-08-11T02:03:43 He needs to abandon his plan for building servers. It will only end in tears. 2012-08-11T02:03:55 He needs to build ONE server and spend at least three months leaning how to fucking use it 2012-08-11T02:05:19 Yeah, the base note was bad enough, but I can accept that. My comments were more towards Lundgren's response. 2012-08-11T02:06:08 I don't see anything wrong with what he's doing other than not copying fuckin' /etc/skel 2012-08-11T02:06:20 I just shove the damn lines into passwd and shadow at work 2012-08-11T02:06:49 Ha;f the time I have to grab the uid from LDAP so I just `getent passwd userid >> /etc/passd` 2012-08-11T02:06:57 *** RangerZ has joined #se2600 2012-08-11T02:07:09 Change the shell from /bin/sh and yer good 2012-08-11T02:07:55 Yeah, I can understand that. But for a system-auth box without ldap / nis / whatever... his method is just idiotic. This isn't 1990 anymore :) 2012-08-11T02:08:28 But it *DOES* still work 2012-08-11T02:08:47 ...and more importantly, it works without having to give a fuck about whether or not the distro uses useradd or adduser 2012-08-11T02:08:51 I used to directly manipulate /etc/{passwd,shadow,group} in a past life; but I gave up that life. And I'm much happier as a result. 2012-08-11T02:09:04 I 'spose. 2012-08-11T02:09:47 I don't really care about anything other than EL and respins. I haven't touched a non-EL box in years other than as a shell hop on rare occasions. 2012-08-11T02:09:55 People should probably learn how to do it by editing the files _first_, then use the tools 2012-08-11T02:10:16 My faith in people isn't that high. They'd fuck something up. 2012-08-11T02:10:28 Generally you get a shitload of examples 2012-08-11T02:10:35 Like... every other user in the file 2012-08-11T02:10:36 heh 2012-08-11T02:10:40 True. 2012-08-11T02:10:45 But people are stupid :) 2012-08-11T02:11:14 I'm jaded, Dagmar. I've been doing this far too long. I've seen far too much stupid. As I'm sure you have as well. 2012-08-11T02:11:18 Someone should be pointing out to Sam that he's dead wrong about the root account 2012-08-11T02:11:20 I just don't trust people any more. 2012-08-11T02:11:21 You don't disable it. 2012-08-11T02:11:33 You just disable it from remote login 2012-08-11T02:11:40 I thought about responding. Then I thought... No. I just fail to care. 2012-08-11T02:12:18 No one else bothered to point that out, either. 2012-08-11T02:14:21 LOL I *am* actually on the NLUG list still 2012-08-11T02:14:26 I just never bother reading it anymore 2012-08-11T02:14:30 Lemme see to this 2012-08-11T02:15:45 What's tha sport where you ski and then shoot things? 2012-08-11T02:16:26 James Bond movies? 2012-08-11T02:16:28 * Bahhumbug shrugs 2012-08-11T02:19:32 Biathlon 2012-08-11T02:19:46 "Biathlon is any sporting event made up of two disciplines. However, biathlon usually refers specifically to the winter sport that combinescross-country skiing and rifle shooting." 2012-08-11T02:20:11 http://bit.ly/OdJLvQ 2012-08-11T02:20:12 Title: Let me google that for you (at bit.ly) 2012-08-11T02:22:49 "You don't disable the root account. ...at least, not unless you're already a charter member of the Sneaker Biathlon." 2012-08-11T02:24:11 heh 2012-08-11T02:25:39 Hopefully no one will fall over and die from a heart attack from seeing me post 2012-08-11T02:27:23 Hell, you might bring others out of the woodwork. 2012-08-11T02:28:05 Hopefully they'll see the utility in installing libvirtd 2012-08-11T02:28:20 It's a lot easier to fuck around if you just make it impossible to screw up the server 2012-08-11T02:28:44 If you destroy a VM, you can still get at the console, power it on or off remotely, or completely reinstall it 2012-08-11T02:28:50 Most people need to learn the hard way at least once. 2012-08-11T02:29:11 I run xen pvirts at the house for testing purposes. 2012-08-11T02:29:15 Can't beat 'em. 2012-08-11T02:29:16 Yeah but having to go shove an optical disk in the thing in person to reboot it is no longer necessary 2012-08-11T02:29:22 virt-manager is stupidly easu 2012-08-11T02:29:25 er easy 2012-08-11T02:29:27 Just ask NotLarry 2012-08-11T02:29:44 Is NotLarry the litmus test? :) 2012-08-11T02:29:53 I was after him about that for two weeks, and then once he sat down and did it instead of quailing he didn't have any problems 2012-08-11T02:30:15 If/when he's ever expected to use vSphere, he's going to wondeer why anyone bothers using vSphere 2012-08-11T02:30:53 Pretty much anyone in systems these days, or even upper-tier support, should get their hands dirty with virtualization. 2012-08-11T02:30:55 Hell, libvirtd isn't too far away from being able to do server migrations between clusters 2012-08-11T02:31:45 Nope - Rich Jones will have it in by years end I suspect. 2012-08-11T02:32:28 Well, it's _there_ but it wasn't complete or considered safe the last time I looked 2012-08-11T02:32:40 They're going to put some hurtin' on ESX 2012-08-11T02:32:56 Well, by "in" I mean full production tested and written off as done. 2012-08-11T02:32:57 Certainly virt-manager is less user-hostile than vSphere 2012-08-11T02:33:10 I've never touched vsphere. 2012-08-11T02:33:23 The layouts are fairly identical 2012-08-11T02:33:31 Then again, there's only so many ways you can present a VM controller to a user 2012-08-11T02:33:32 Yeah, that doesn't much surprise me. 2012-08-11T02:33:39 Heh, exactly. 2012-08-11T02:34:04 Wow I'm gettin' some fat kids mad on YouTube tonight. LOL 2012-08-11T02:34:09 hahaha 2012-08-11T02:34:16 that link you posted earlier? 2012-08-11T02:34:23 If my car weren't a little ill, I would just *have* to go to the bar and video a reply 2012-08-11T02:34:37 Kids are like "Don't try and pretend you're not fat, too" 2012-08-11T02:34:56 I'd love to have them see me all dressed up saying "Keep going! Your suffering pleases me greatly!" 2012-08-11T02:34:59 jesus, that dude's JabbaFat. 2012-08-11T02:35:20 Yeah and while he is probably exagerrating for effect and doesn't actually speak with a lisp, he's setting a COMPLETELY SHIT EXAMPLE 2012-08-11T02:35:29 Might as well be dressing up as Snooki 2012-08-11T02:35:58 Besides which I've already posted one screed railing against someone who was being a dick about the blizzard compromise 2012-08-11T02:36:12 Might as well make the rest of the internet angry for spreading misinformation deliberately 2012-08-11T02:36:33 Shortbus kids are going to watch that video and then go to the forums accusing Blizzard of lying 2012-08-11T02:36:37 jesus, this idiot needs a fucking bottle of valium. 2012-08-11T02:36:50 Hardware authenticator tokens were completely unaffected by the compromise 2012-08-11T02:37:00 He has other videos 2012-08-11T02:37:20 That one just happens to be in such poor taste he needs to suffer for it 2012-08-11T02:39:07 hahaha 2012-08-11T02:42:05 Seriously, at least Snooki can scrape off the makeup and keep her mouth shut 2012-08-11T02:44:15 hahaha 2012-08-11T02:44:43 meh - I need to work :/ 2012-08-11T02:44:50 Thanks for the chuckles :) 2012-08-11T02:46:39 I shoudl play more nethack. 2012-08-11T02:47:00 You should try Dwarf Fortress for awhile 2012-08-11T02:47:07 I have. 2012-08-11T02:47:20 It's ... shit, complicated. ;) 2012-08-11T02:47:21 When was the last time? 2012-08-11T02:47:27 A year ago? 2012-08-11T02:47:51 Also tried "Crawl" for the roguelikes, but damn, Crawl does not love its players, and in the roguelike genre, that's saying something! 2012-08-11T02:48:06 Did you have any problems with undead? 2012-08-11T02:48:10 Nope. 2012-08-11T02:48:13 Say... vampires or zombie invasions? 2012-08-11T02:48:20 Society collapsed long before that. :) 2012-08-11T02:48:20 Those happen now 2012-08-11T02:48:37 Vampires will sneak in acting like normal dwarves, and then proceed to eat everyone they can 2012-08-11T02:48:48 Undead invasions are super sneaky 2012-08-11T02:48:57 Now that I think about it, Dwarf Fortress and management have a lot in common. 2012-08-11T02:49:18 The two most common failure states are "Fuck. I didn't keep all those rotting corpses in a secured area and a necromancer came over for tea" 2012-08-11T02:49:38 ...followed by "Holy shit they can tear down a drawbridge?" 2012-08-11T02:50:08 That scenario ends _fast_ and you're not about to Reclaim that location 2012-08-11T02:50:23 All you'd be doing is adding seven more zombies 2012-08-11T02:50:34 You know it probably says something about the IT profession when the games we play can go to hell in a handbasket at a drop of the hat. 2012-08-11T02:50:43 Oh yeah 2012-08-11T02:50:46 Dagmar: you feel like giving me your opinion on something really quick? 2012-08-11T02:50:51 You've used Dwarf Therapist, right? 2012-08-11T02:50:55 People really freak out about that one 2012-08-11T02:51:04 Dagmar: https://129.59.141.200/~wilbur/vandytest/auth/ 2012-08-11T02:51:11 make a breakfix 2012-08-11T02:51:14 Like, "Wait... this game has a fucking *spreadsheet* app to help with it?!?" 2012-08-11T02:51:28 It's like our minds see nothing wrong with the suspension of disbelief when it comes to dwarfs, elves, magical items, etc, but as soon as you remove the chance of utter doom at every step, our mind rebels. 2012-08-11T02:51:47 * dasunt hasn't used Dwarf Therapist. 2012-08-11T02:52:04 dasunt: Over about 50 dwarves it's the only way to keep the little punters organized 2012-08-11T02:52:25 Every dwarf and all their abilities and jobs laid out in a spreadsheet 2012-08-11T02:52:52 I can get a settlement to 200 dwarves fairly quickly with it helping manage workers 2012-08-11T02:52:59 * dasunt ponders, once again, why he didn't pick up a class A and started driving trucks like his brothers. 2012-08-11T02:53:26 wilpig: Looks like it's ahead of our existing tool 2012-08-11T02:53:34 Really, I'm greatful for learning about Dwarf Therapist, but damn, I really wonder what my career is doing to my mind. 2012-08-11T02:53:41 heheh 2012-08-11T02:54:04 I'm working on replacing it 2012-08-11T02:54:12 Ilike getting a fortress stable, and then just letting them run like a maniacal ant farm 2012-08-11T02:54:17 tired of the bullshit alerts coming out of here 2012-08-11T02:54:20 That is fun. 2012-08-11T02:54:36 Although once Dwarf Fortress starts to spiral downhill, that's also fun in its own way. 2012-08-11T02:54:54 wilpig: Maybe prepopulate the "what are they doing to it" from a list of the last three things done to that service/machine 2012-08-11T02:55:14 that will take some regex fu 2012-08-11T02:55:16 That would provide a little added consistency 2012-08-11T02:55:29 nah, just store whatever gets entered in a flat file 2012-08-11T02:55:39 that I can do. 2012-08-11T02:55:40 Are carp still too hardcore in DF? 2012-08-11T02:55:41 Next time someone pulls the page, rifle through it 2012-08-11T02:55:47 carp? 2012-08-11T02:55:51 How can fish be hardcore? 2012-08-11T02:56:02 You can still utterly deplete rivers if you're not careful 2012-08-11T02:56:19 A single legendary fisherman can sit there and just start yanking up all the fish with both hands 2012-08-11T02:56:36 Dagmar: http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/40d:Carp 2012-08-11T02:56:37 Title: 40d:Carp - Dwarf Fortress Wiki (at dwarffortresswiki.org) 2012-08-11T02:56:42 Note the quote. ;) 2012-08-11T02:56:43 OTherwise if your dwarves and carp are in close proximity, someone's fuckin drownin 2012-08-11T02:57:33 Hmm... Never had a problem with carp 2012-08-11T02:57:45 The illustration is a bit insane 2012-08-11T02:57:58 If you have dwarves drinking from a stream, you're probably already fucked 2012-08-11T02:58:09 Angry fish are the least of your worries 2012-08-11T02:58:24 There's so many things that are the "least of your worries" in that game. 2012-08-11T02:58:36 We were just drumming it into people in #dwarfortress that you can _never_ have too much beer 2012-08-11T02:58:38 Until they kill you. 2012-08-11T02:59:01 Dude my fortresses usually are full of dwarves absolutely giddy with delight 2012-08-11T02:59:29 ...but even my central interior waterfall designs fell afoul of some vampire getting a paper cut 2012-08-11T02:59:48 Suddenly... my mausoleum floor is like five times bigger than the residential area 2012-08-11T02:59:56 ...because every fucking noble I have is a vampire 2012-08-11T03:00:49 I've had to abandon a fortress due to "excess gore" before. 2012-08-11T03:00:51 See. 2012-08-11T03:01:14 DF: Two lessons - you can never have enough booze, and sooner or later, it will all end in tears. Its the IT allegory of our times. 2012-08-11T03:01:18 Do not, I repeat, DO NOT create a "Tower of Judgement" from which you drop trolls and goblins to their deaths 2012-08-11T03:01:42 I was actually kind of suprised that caravans just didn't get near and then run away screaming 2012-08-11T03:01:49 Half my fucking map was covered in body parts 2012-08-11T03:02:17 A siege would happen, be *entirely* soaked up by a shitload of cage traps... 2012-08-11T03:02:38 The dwarves would then tote all the caged nasties to the top of the tower, where I'd strip them of their worldly possessions and then mass-pit them 2012-08-11T03:02:47 *splat*splat*splat*splat*splat* 2012-08-11T03:03:02 So what's the catch? 2012-08-11T03:03:05 THen I needed bones for something, so I unlocked the door into the area where everything was going. 2012-08-11T03:03:15 Refuse pile fills up. Odd. 2012-08-11T03:03:21 I make another one. It gets filled up. 2012-08-11T03:03:56 I make a freaking 50x50 refuse pile... Every dwarf and their kids come and start toting all those body parts out and spreading them across teh landscape 2012-08-11T03:04:13 I'd only dropped about 200 guys to their deaths 2012-08-11T03:04:32 Drop them from 12z high, and you get an arm, a leg, a head, a torso, some feet and hands, some teeth, sometimes a bit of hair 2012-08-11T03:04:42 Each which is it's own piece of refuse 2012-08-11T03:05:03 I have since learned how to create basically, a giant toilet that can be flushed. 2012-08-11T03:05:23 Fill cistern, pull handle, *SPLOOSH* everything washes off the map 2012-08-11T03:05:35 Someone needs to discuss dwarf fortress with a therapist. 2012-08-11T03:05:39 That should be interesting. 2012-08-11T03:15:00 Toady also added minecarts. 2012-08-11T03:15:11 ...which are, I have to say, a really novel way of killing the shit out of your dwarves. 2012-08-11T03:15:36 Their obsess/reminisce behaviours are just nuts with those things 2012-08-11T03:16:01 LIke, when you accidentally trap someone behind a wall for more than about ten seconds how they'll get freed, and then _go back there and hang out_... 2012-08-11T03:16:32 I accidentally (like I knew what I was doing) made a rail cart line that just went around and around forever without being able to stop it, and some dwarf got in 2012-08-11T03:16:47 I *finally* figured out how to get it to stop after he's half-starved to death. 2012-08-11T03:17:08 Now when the dude isn't doing a job, he goes and rides minecarts around all over 2012-08-11T03:17:19 Also, physics. 2012-08-11T03:17:36 Unlike in Minecraft, you don't really want to have a lot of powered minecart boosters 2012-08-11T03:17:47 You can launch fucking dwarves into Low Earth Orbit 2012-08-11T03:18:10 Goblins also suck *hard* at Frogger, so that's a plus. 2012-08-11T03:18:15 On the flipside, so do sheep and cattle. 2012-08-11T03:18:43 Watching a siege try to make it's way past 20 mine carts whizzing back and forth is hilarity itself 2012-08-11T03:19:20 Probably the most fun I've had since I figured out how to play Goblin Pinball 2012-08-11T03:19:45 Drawbridges make *awesome* flippers 2012-08-11T03:20:01 You just build 'em big and out in a field, then wait. 2012-08-11T03:20:17 ...or build them in a long hallway. 2012-08-11T03:20:25 *flips switch* 2012-08-11T03:20:48 2nd comment in thread: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=25967.0 2012-08-11T03:20:49 Title: Chasing the elusive Mermaid (at www.bay12forums.com) 2012-08-11T03:21:11 WE HAVE A NEW WINNER! Izrum Quetzcoatl made it over the Wall Of Fun and gets to go free! 2012-08-11T03:21:22 ...let's all cheer him on as his legs and spine heal up. 2012-08-11T03:22:07 Oh jebus, that thread. 2012-08-11T03:22:17 I disapprove of your actions most strongly. 2012-08-11T03:22:17 But if your going to do it, I think you should consider breeding all the same. You don't need to wait for the young to reach adulthood before harvesting them. Heck, my kittens don't spend more then thirty seconds in this world before they're off to the crossbow bolt shop. 2012-08-11T03:22:23 dasunt: He's not going to be able to do what he wants directly without a SHITLOAD of pumps 2012-08-11T03:22:39 Dagmar: That's okay, the thread's helping him commit genocide. 2012-08-11T03:22:45 What he needs to do is build it all dry and then pump water into it 2012-08-11T03:22:56 It can't be worse than what i do, man 2012-08-11T03:23:06 I don't even worry about iron anymore. 2012-08-11T03:23:10 I harvest goblinite 2012-08-11T03:23:25 Damn, we're horrible people. 2012-08-11T03:23:35 I'll build a fortress over an acquifer without even blinking 2012-08-11T03:23:56 ...because when your guys get repeatedly covered in gore from head to toe, baths are a requirement 2012-08-11T03:24:18 ...as are turkeys, because of their remarkable fat-bearing properties 2012-08-11T03:25:11 If you want to go really risky, you can even use rabbits as a defense 2012-08-11T03:25:44 Breed the shit out of them, and turn them loose in a walled in pasture invaders have to go through to get to you 2012-08-11T03:26:06 Goblin sieges will actually get sick of killing them (they're your livestock as far as they know) and leave. 2012-08-11T03:26:30 However, this means you're kinda going to be the proud owner of 1000 or so lag-inducing rabbits 2012-08-11T03:27:04 They'll hit a hysteresis point where they're starving as fast as they breed because they're eating the grass as quickly as it grows, but it takes a *while* 2012-08-11T03:27:57 I wound up going down that road by accident because I got the bright idea to breed rabbits for food 2012-08-11T03:28:08 ...then I noticed they don't really produce anything but MORE RABBITS 2012-08-11T03:28:24 No meat, no skulls, no fur 2012-08-11T03:28:49 Animal training has gotten pretty handy 2012-08-11T03:28:58 LOL. 2012-08-11T03:29:31 You can stock a 3x10 hallway with weapon traps of glass, throw in about a half dozen war dogs, and they will proceed to kill the fuck out of any and all goblins and kobolds who try to get past them 2012-08-11T03:30:21 They're useless in any kind of frontal assault, but when they can gang up on single creatures because they're trying desperately to avoid the traps, it's mauling time 2012-08-11T03:30:28 (and lots of gore tracked around) 2012-08-11T03:48:03 Great, now I'm listening to the Eagles while drunk. 2012-08-11T03:48:04 WTF? 2012-08-11T03:49:47 I want an oncall taser. 2012-08-11T03:50:10 don't answer your phone after three calls. zap. 2012-08-11T03:51:29 I'd agree with that. 2012-08-11T03:52:23 I realize they don't like the calls... I don't much care to call either especially if I am working on something else. 2012-08-11T03:52:37 I also don't care that they are sleeping or having a life 2012-08-11T03:55:44 can't reach the oncall or the backup. 2012-08-11T03:56:10 the next call goes to my manager who LOVES to hear from us at 3 in the morning because we can't reach an oncall person 2012-08-11T03:56:20 Naughty email people 2012-08-11T04:02:18 I am considering building a road between Nippleton and the recently discovered Crotchton 2012-08-11T04:02:35 I finally figured out WTF was with the population counts 2012-08-11T04:03:28 There may be a *shitload* of villagers coming soon after all now that I know what I was doing wrong 2012-08-11T04:04:04 All those buried doors are what made so many golems spawn 2012-08-11T04:04:26 At the moment there's one villager selling freaking ender eyes 2012-08-11T04:05:04 Just eight emeralds. Another guy will trade 18 coal for an emerald. 2012-08-11T04:05:20 One was selling diamond pickaxes for 4 emeralds 2012-08-11T04:09:19 heh 2012-08-11T04:09:36 I wish I had the time to get on there lately. i've just been busy 2012-08-11T04:37:19 * dasunt listens to "Mountain Goats". 2012-08-11T04:43:26 *** dasunt has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-08-11T05:22:27 I amuse me sometimes 2012-08-11T05:22:54 if(isset($_POST['s'])) { 2012-08-11T05:22:54 if(isset($_POST['t'])) { 2012-08-11T05:22:54 if(isset($_POST['d'])) { 2012-08-11T05:34:32 Dagmar: you awake? 2012-08-11T06:04:45 *** wilpig_ has joined #se2600 2012-08-11T06:09:02 *** wilpig has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2012-08-11T07:29:50 *** brimstone has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2012-08-11T07:47:06 *** brimstone has joined #se2600 2012-08-11T07:47:07 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o brimstone 2012-08-11T08:42:26 *** stowbari has joined #se2600 2012-08-11T10:31:41 Dagmar: I have your idea about populating the services from the past selections partially working now. i'm thinking I might even be able to do that with the server names too 2012-08-11T10:45:20 derp da derp 2012-08-11T11:44:54 *** kive has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2012-08-11T11:58:23 *** kive has joined #se2600 2012-08-11T11:58:23 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o kive 2012-08-11T12:41:02 HA HA HA romney picked paul "we'll make medicare a coupon voucher system" ryan as his VP 2012-08-11T12:41:31 well we know who will win the nomination now as long as minorities are able to get out to vote in ohio 2012-08-11T12:41:32 and MI 2012-08-11T12:41:44 and it isn't R&R 2012-08-11T12:59:58 and Florida 2012-08-11T13:00:12 and probably Pennsylvania 2012-08-11T13:00:45 It was nice of Romney to torpedo his campaign in all the battleground states with one move 2012-08-11T13:01:05 RangerZ: you mean the election? 2012-08-11T13:01:28 aestetix: yep 2012-08-11T13:01:53 Romney just shored up his support in all of the 'already red' states 2012-08-11T13:03:37 Paul Ryan is quite an enigma... he wants to send billions more to the military, even though he has publically stated that he doesn't trust the military's leadership on financial decisions 2012-08-11T13:03:54 At this point, I'm probably voting for Gary Johnson. 2012-08-11T13:04:10 As much as I love ACA, I completely distrust Obama anymore. 2012-08-11T13:05:12 I don't distrust him, but I think he drank his own KoolAid after the 2008 election, figuring he had a mandate, and then he was utterly surprised when the Republicans in Congress fought him tooth and nail 2012-08-11T13:05:34 *** eris has joined #se2600 2012-08-11T13:05:52 You know, after the Democrats caved on pretty much everything when Bush won in 2004. 2012-08-11T13:08:15 Let me rephrase. 2012-08-11T13:08:23 I don't trust him to lead anymore. 2012-08-11T13:08:35 I think Obama has great principles, but I don't think he knows how to stand up to the "powers that be." 2012-08-11T13:09:14 I want to be apolitical about this, but it's hard to be when a number of your friends have gotten grand jury subpoenas 2012-08-11T13:10:11 Those are disconnected from the political calculations, for important ethical reasons 2012-08-11T13:10:17 Between the persecution of whistleblowers and the DEA raids on oaksterdam, Obama lost my vote. 2012-08-11T13:11:15 Which sucks, because the health care act was amazing. 2012-08-11T13:11:18 In most cases, those are career prosecutors 2012-08-11T13:11:47 Remember the firestorm when Bush fired career prosecutors for belonging to the wrong party? 2012-08-11T13:13:31 What do you think will happen when Congress dies out? 2012-08-11T13:13:45 I don't remember the average age, but most of them are north of 50, IIRC 2012-08-11T13:14:55 The real key for the next 50 years isn't who is president, but who replaces Scalia when he retires. 2012-08-11T13:15:59 Replace him with a liberal judge, and Citizens United could be overturned without a constitutional amendment 2012-08-11T13:18:18 It actually looks like a number of Judges will be replaced in the next 10 years 2012-08-11T13:19:30 There's a projection of 3, but I don't know how true that is 2012-08-11T13:41:15 *** kive has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2012-08-11T13:42:44 aestetix: Corydon76-work is completely right, if you don't agree with citizens united you_have_ to vote for president obama, because that is the single most important thing that a president can do 2012-08-11T13:43:22 I agree that the DOJ has done a lot I don't agree with 2012-08-11T13:43:49 but i fundamentally agree with having a DOE(ducation) and DOE(nergy) which paul ryan and his ilk don't 2012-08-11T13:45:33 I'm not so much pro-democrat, i'm more anti-neo-conservative , the neo-con Ayn Rand-ian world where if you get sick and can't afford to pay for yourself then you die. Where we need to be fighting in Iraq for 100+ more years 2012-08-11T13:48:18 Eat Republican. 2012-08-11T13:53:18 I own a rifle, and as soon as i can afford some more, i'd like to get some more... but i'd never join the NRA (because it is only pro- gun manf. not gun owner) 2012-08-11T13:53:39 the republicans say they want less government and that government doesn't create jobs... but warn of cutting military spending b/c it would cost jobs 2012-08-11T13:54:16 those are just two of the almost never ending hypocrisies that the GOP/neo-cons ayn randians put out there 2012-08-11T14:03:58 RangerZ: I don't think I said anything about Ciizens United 2012-08-11T14:04:10 I'm specifically upset about Obama's pursuit of the espionage act. 2012-08-11T14:04:37 I mean I am upset about Citizens United, but that was clearly not his fault. 2012-08-11T14:06:04 The president doesn't have the authority to stop enforcing the law 2012-08-11T14:06:37 Corydon76-work: don't you think he has the authority to decide when it should be enforced? 2012-08-11T14:06:39 And you're talking about career prosecutors. Interfering with them will get another whistle blown 2012-08-11T14:06:49 No, I don't. 2012-08-11T14:07:29 The only authority he has is, subject to Congressional non-interference, because of limited funds, he has the authority to tell prosecutors to focus on other issues 2012-08-11T14:07:39 Isn't that what executive orders are for? To clarify how he will execute the law? 2012-08-11T14:08:16 Executive orders are to clarify when laws are ambiguous 2012-08-11T14:08:31 Which the espionage act *is*. 2012-08-11T14:09:01 Once a case is dumped on a prosecutor's desk, they have sole authority to decide how to prosecute 2012-08-11T14:09:22 Political considerations are (and should be) completely removed from that process 2012-08-11T14:10:01 That's why Bush's dumping of 11 career prosecutors was such a firestorm, because it injected political will into what should be purely law enforcement 2012-08-11T14:11:48 and that case is also why Obama has to remain arm's length away from any prosecutorial decisions 2012-08-11T14:12:35 aestetix: The office of president has too much power, and it becomes the responsibility of the current president to maintain that power, I blame the repubilicans for most of it, but i also blame the democrats for not stopping it 2012-08-11T14:13:09 An Attorney General was almost *indicted* for the firing of those career prosecutors. That hasn't happened since Reagan. 2012-08-11T14:13:13 the thing that causes so many of our strifes is that we have 2 nations now a day, blue cities and red the rest of the nation 2012-08-11T14:14:59 actually there is a book out there (that i need to look up the name of) that discusses that the term "christian" being used in the US as an umbrella term for all the christ-related sects is what has propagated a lot of the division 2012-08-11T14:15:19 because before the catholics and the prodistants never agreed and they were a divided voting bloc 2012-08-11T14:15:43 and mormons , baptists would never agree on anything on principle 2012-08-11T14:16:30 if you broke the "christian" moniker then the democratic party would be the only one with any power for more than 40 years to come, but that won't happen 2012-08-11T14:17:11 though... there is a lot of evangelicals , namely baptists... that are telling their congregations to never vote for a mormon president 2012-08-11T14:17:43 I hate to be a single issue voter, but... gay rights are my single issue, and asking me to vote Republican is tantamount to asking a poor black kid to vote for the KKK. 2012-08-11T14:18:50 Sure, they might be good for the economy, but I'm personally fucked if they manage to get their entire social agenda into law. 2012-08-11T14:20:13 And actually, the empirical evidence is the opposite. The last time we had a booming economy is under a Democrat who raised the nominal tax rate for the top earners. 2012-08-11T14:22:10 It seems to me that the economic evidence is... if you raise the tax rate on the top earners, they have to have more business in order to continue funding their car, mansion, and cocaine buying spree, so they have to ramp up production and sales. 2012-08-11T14:22:48 which means more jobs, more economic activity... etc. 2012-08-11T14:28:27 the top 1% of americans already have as much wealth as the bottom 90% 2012-08-11T14:28:37 how much more money do they need before they will invest in america? 2012-08-11T14:29:17 the 6 members of the walton (walmart/sams club) family have as much wealth as 120 million americans 2012-08-11T14:29:32 Oh, they are. They're donating record amounts to SuperPACs, in order to get even more tax breaks 2012-08-11T14:34:33 That's what gets me about the whole trickle down theory. They're whining about how they don't have the money to create jobs, but they have hundreds of millions to donate to political campaigns? Something smells fishy. 2012-08-11T14:38:47 the jewish gambling mogel who has said he would give 100million dollars to defeat obama 2012-08-11T14:39:04 that is only as much % of his wealth as 700$ to a person who makes 70k a year 2012-08-11T14:40:28 if you believe => money != speech , hence why citizens united is so important, hence why supreme court appointments are so important, hence why president not being romney is so important if you don't want elections bought 2012-08-11T15:28:49 The secondary problem with the concept of money being speech is that if we have the right to speech, then we have the right to money. That's essentially a Communist theory, a theory that supports universal welfare. 2012-08-11T15:29:16 That's precisely why money is NOT speech. 2012-08-11T15:43:44 Corydon76-work: socialist 2012-08-11T15:44:24 anyone using some nosql dbs? 2012-08-11T15:56:15 does sqlite count? 2012-08-11T16:05:23 *** mog has quit IRC (Excess Flood) 2012-08-11T16:05:52 *** mog has joined #se2600 2012-08-11T16:05:52 *** mog has joined #se2600 2012-08-11T16:05:52 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mog 2012-08-11T16:11:33 *** mog has quit IRC (Excess Flood) 2012-08-11T16:12:02 *** mog has joined #se2600 2012-08-11T16:12:02 *** mog has joined #se2600 2012-08-11T16:12:02 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mog 2012-08-11T16:50:36 brimstone: no 2012-08-11T17:19:07 *** NotLarry has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2012-08-11T17:32:10 *** NotLarry