2012-08-07T00:33:54  <wilpig> http://archive.plugins.jquery.com/project/sort  <-- this is exactly what I need but their plugin site has been fubar for months now
2012-08-07T00:33:55  <GateKeeper> Title: SORT | jQuery Plugins (at archive.plugins.jquery.com)
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2012-08-07T02:17:53  <wilpig> alrighty.  time to fix these broken search results
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2012-08-07T03:13:18  <eryc> wtf
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2012-08-07T05:22:16  <wilpig> there we go.  search nearly fixed.
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2012-08-07T07:13:05  <Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
2012-08-07T07:22:25  <wilpig> Dolemite: PULL
2012-08-07T07:22:35  <wilpig> fuck opendns...
2012-08-07T07:22:45  <wilpig> fuck it in its fucking ass
2012-08-07T07:25:46  <wilpig> the problem with chrome was annoying, btw.  chrome was sorting the json results where the other two just took it as it got them.
2012-08-07T07:28:18  <Dolemite> I need to get francl to subscribe to the mailing list and start asking his questions there rather than in the Github issues
2012-08-07T07:28:36  <wilpig> agreed
2012-08-07T07:32:31  <Dolemite> They are, but they can easily go into 1.5
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2012-08-07T07:55:00  <aestetix> man
2012-08-07T07:55:03  <aestetix> sysadmin hell
2012-08-07T07:55:29  <aestetix> Anyone ever dealt with a system with sporadic downtime and about 500 possible causes? :)
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2012-08-07T08:40:41  <Dagmar> Yeah, but then I stopped using Windows for anything important
2012-08-07T08:43:07  <Bahhumbug> Good answer.
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2012-08-07T08:51:03  <aestetix> Hahah.
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2012-08-07T13:32:58  <Dolemite> zzzZZZZzZZzzzz
2012-08-07T13:43:58  <kive> stfu dolemite, we're trying to nap
2012-08-07T13:46:34  <Dickie> OH! *N*ap.
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2012-08-07T13:47:23  <brimstone> err
2012-08-07T13:47:26  <Dolemite> Well at least Dickie didn't hit the point of no return
2012-08-07T13:48:50  <Dolemite> I hear his Mom had the uncanny ability to open his door once he passed that point
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2012-08-07T14:29:17  <brimstone> http://grza.net/GIS/Admiral%20Ackbar%20SNMP%20Notifications.jpg
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2012-08-07T20:12:27  <wilpig> god damnit
2012-08-07T20:12:43  <wilpig> fucking moron can't remove a set of toolless rails from a rack
2012-08-07T20:12:51  <wilpig> pat removed teh server and left the rails for him....
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2012-08-07T20:26:44  <dasunt> Ugh.
2012-08-07T20:26:44  <dasunt> Resume writing.
2012-08-07T20:26:45  <dasunt> Laggy as hell online as well.
2012-08-07T20:28:29  <wilpig> well writing is at least better than reading, if only slightly.  reading rots your brain
2012-08-07T20:30:44  <dasunt> Yes.
2012-08-07T20:31:04  <dasunt> Although writing also rots your brain.
2012-08-07T20:31:28  <dasunt> "Here's my resume.  Here's the part where I list how awesome I am and I imply that you'd be an absolute idiot not to hire such a wonderful and talented person as myself.  Failure to hire me will result in your business being only a smoking hole in the ground in five years.  PS:  Did I mention I'm awesome?"
2012-08-07T20:32:24  <wilpig> I should steal that for mine.  my resume sucks much ass
2012-08-07T20:32:42  <wilpig> Every manager or really anyone i've ever shown it to has agreed.
2012-08-07T20:35:18  <dasunt> Right now, here's the section of my last job:
2012-08-07T20:35:25  <dasunt> http://pastebin.com/PZT0AS9x
2012-08-07T20:35:27  <GateKeeper> Title: resume_section - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
2012-08-07T20:36:00  <dasunt> It is prettier with formating, obviously.
2012-08-07T20:37:21  <wilpig> yup.  I did alot of that for the job I had before this but I didn't word it anywhere like that.  which is why my resume sucks
2012-08-07T20:37:56  <dasunt> Yep.  If you're in a small enough business, you end up doing everything, which makes a great resume.
2012-08-07T20:38:10  <wilpig> when you're there for 13 years it's too much
2012-08-07T20:38:21  <eryc> heh
2012-08-07T20:38:25  <dasunt> I was at my last job for 4.  That's why I quit.
2012-08-07T20:38:42  <dasunt> Too much work, boss was going insane.
2012-08-07T20:38:49  <dasunt> Needed a loooong vacation.
2012-08-07T20:39:02  <dasunt> But now the money is running low, so time to get another job.  :(
2012-08-07T20:39:04  <wilpig> I've had a three year vacation here in the NOC.  heh
2012-08-07T20:39:09  <dasunt> Heh.
2012-08-07T20:39:44  <dasunt> Now I'm wondering how to describe the employer before the last one, without making it sound that it was a nutty libertarian anti-NWO political non-profit.  (Difficulty:  They were.)
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2012-08-07T20:40:51  <wilpig> change it to dishwasher.  then when they ask later why you have a dishwasher listed on your resume explain because it was better than admitting the truth about working for the nutty libertarian
2012-08-07T20:41:16  <dasunt> Ha ha!
2012-08-07T20:42:01  <dasunt> Right now I have a short _____ is a 501(c)4 not-for-profit organization located in ______ and _____, focusing on grassroots advocacy and raising political awareness.
2012-08-07T20:48:35  <eryc> seems kind of meaningless
2012-08-07T20:48:49  <dasunt> Then I have:  _____ created online and printed monthly reports, as well as collected, organized, and published vast amount of informations for our members.
2012-08-07T20:48:56  <dasunt> Hmmmm.
2012-08-07T20:49:41  <eryc> you shouldn't have to explain what the companies on your resume do
2012-08-07T20:49:46  <eryc> just what you did for them
2012-08-07T20:49:52  <dasunt> True.
2012-08-07T20:50:05  <eryc> we're going to google the ones we don't know anyway
2012-08-07T20:50:12  <eryc> if we even get as far as caring
2012-08-07T20:50:15  <dasunt> (OH SHIT!)  :p
2012-08-07T20:50:47  <dasunt> I may just describe the last place I worked for since it more or less helps define what responsibilities I have.
2012-08-07T20:50:47  <eryc> usually when i interview i find the cool shit the person has done and ask them about that
2012-08-07T20:50:50  <dasunt> Then skip the ones before that.
2012-08-07T20:51:26  <Dolemite> If I got a resume that explained what the company did, I'd file it away
2012-08-07T20:51:36  <Dolemite> That doesn't belong on a resume
2012-08-07T20:52:05  <dasunt> Damnit.
2012-08-07T20:52:17  <dasunt> :(
2012-08-07T20:52:37  <Dolemite> If I'm interested enough, I'll ask you in the interview
2012-08-07T20:52:40  <dasunt> Okay, new idea:  I'm going to become a resume writer and advisor for people, since all the information conflicts.
2012-08-07T20:53:02  <Dolemite> If you're volunteering that information, it tells me that you don't have the confidence to talk about YOUR traits over the places that you've worked
2012-08-07T20:53:05  <dasunt> So I can more or less make up bullshit.
2012-08-07T20:53:47  <dasunt> How would you handle past employers who are out of business?
2012-08-07T20:53:55  <dasunt> (On a resume, that is.)
2012-08-07T20:54:00  <Dolemite> You list them just like any other
2012-08-07T20:54:08  <Dolemite> Again, if someone is interested, they'll ask
2012-08-07T20:54:09  <dasunt> No phone number then?
2012-08-07T20:54:13  <eryc> Company Name, year-year
2012-08-07T20:54:17  <eryc> no
2012-08-07T20:54:19  <Dolemite> It's not your job to list their contact info
2012-08-07T20:54:28  <wilpig> it's fun to list numbers that are out of service.
2012-08-07T20:54:30  <Dolemite> Also, you don't provide references unless, and until, someone asks
2012-08-07T20:54:36  <dasunt> Yep, I know that.
2012-08-07T20:54:43  <dasunt> I've never been asked for references.
2012-08-07T20:54:46  <dasunt> LOL.
2012-08-07T20:54:56  <Dolemite> I was required to check them when I was at Vanderbilt
2012-08-07T20:55:01  <dasunt> Seriously?
2012-08-07T20:55:03  <Dolemite> Yes
2012-08-07T20:55:09  <dasunt> Like, personal or business?
2012-08-07T20:55:11  <wilpig> hey Dolemite how did my references check out?  LOL
2012-08-07T20:55:16  <eryc> lol
2012-08-07T20:55:30  <Dolemite> If I didn't do my due diligence as a hiring manager, then it was my fault for hiring a dipshit, like wilpig
2012-08-07T20:55:31  <Dolemite> er, I mean
2012-08-07T20:55:46  <eryc> that was mean :(
2012-08-07T20:55:55  <Dolemite> wilpig : I had Zafar call yours to eliminate the conflict of interest.  Or maybe I had Kevin.  I can't remember.
2012-08-07T20:55:59  <dasunt> Dolemite: What's your opinion on a two-page resume?
2012-08-07T20:56:23  <eryc> 2-3 pages is good
2012-08-07T20:56:27  <Dolemite> dasunt : If it's warranted, go to two pages.  If it's just so that you can reference your hobbies, can it.
2012-08-07T20:56:28  <eryc> no one does a 1 page anymore
2012-08-07T20:56:40  <Dolemite> 1 pagers are for people right out of college, with no experience
2012-08-07T20:56:58  <eryc> if its 15 pages i'm already sick of you
2012-08-07T20:57:19  <Dolemite> And once you get old, like me, you only list the past 10 years of experience, typically
2012-08-07T20:57:21  <eryc> and i can't remember that much shit to ask about
2012-08-07T20:58:01  <wilpig> before I open this rack request am I going to yell and scream?
2012-08-07T20:58:03  <dasunt> Dolemite: My attitude with describing responsiblities so far is the last job I go into detail with.
2012-08-07T20:58:07  <dasunt> Job before that, not so much.
2012-08-07T20:58:19  <dasunt> Then jobs before that, just a brief description of what I did.
2012-08-07T20:58:40  <dasunt> Because honestly, do you really care that I was working as a night manager at a hotel in 2004 if you're hiring me for PC support or administration?
2012-08-07T20:58:40  <Dolemite> It depends on how relevant the job was
2012-08-07T20:58:56  <eryc> yea depends on if the info is relevant
2012-08-07T20:58:58  <Dolemite> If your job 3 employers back is the closest to what you're applying for, that's the one you emphasize
2012-08-07T20:59:30  <dasunt> Dolemite: You wouldn't mind looking over my new resume in a bit, would you?
2012-08-07T20:59:32  <Dolemite> Any jobs in other industries that have no overlaps you don't list any details at all
2012-08-07T20:59:37  <Dolemite> I don't mind
2012-08-07T20:59:43  <eryc> the hotel job i would emphasize that i wasn't a dick to customers
2012-08-07T20:59:57  <dasunt> Dolemite: Well, I wanted to mention the hotel job since it does explain what I was doing for a year.
2012-08-07T21:00:03  <eryc> if you were applying for pc support
2012-08-07T21:00:10  <Dolemite> If you're applying for a job either in customer service, hospitality, or IT support of the hospitality industry, it would be a plus to emphasize
2012-08-07T21:00:31  <wilpig> Dolemite: you're smoking crack again
2012-08-07T21:00:32  <dasunt> (Basically I was working as a night manager for a year while an ex was finishing up school, but...)
2012-08-07T21:00:53  <Dolemite> wilpig : What this time?
2012-08-07T21:00:58  <eryc> wilpig: not crack, bath salts
2012-08-07T21:01:06  <Dolemite> Come here, let me eat your face
2012-08-07T21:01:18  <wilpig> check your db-1.3-to-1.4.sql
2012-08-07T21:01:28  <Dolemite> did I double entry again?
2012-08-07T21:01:28  <wilpig> read the last 15 lines
2012-08-07T21:02:04  <dasunt> Shit, how do you describe jack of all trade jobs?
2012-08-07T21:02:05  <wilpig> actually it's just one line this time.
2012-08-07T21:02:06  <Dolemite> Yes, and?
2012-08-07T21:02:11  <wilpig> the last line
2012-08-07T21:02:16  <Dolemite> Oh, the very last line
2012-08-07T21:02:16  <Dolemite> yep
2012-08-07T21:02:19  <Dolemite> I see that
2012-08-07T21:02:21  <Dolemite> lemme fix
2012-08-07T21:02:25  <wilpig> I got it
2012-08-07T21:03:05  <wilpig> I figured you liked my three line approach to that instead of the previous method.
2012-08-07T21:03:21  <Dolemite> Yeah, potay-toe, potah-toe
2012-08-07T21:03:25  <eryc> http://i.huffpost.com/gen/168353/JULIO-APARICIO-GORED.jpg
2012-08-07T21:03:56  <eryc> sharing is caring right
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2012-08-07T21:36:51  <wilpig> Dagmar: are you on call?
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2012-08-07T21:56:00  <Dagmar> All better.
2012-08-07T22:11:50  <wilpig> restarted task scheduler?
2012-08-07T22:23:35  <Dagmar> Of course.
2012-08-07T22:29:11  <wilpig> just making sure.  you didn't call back in
2012-08-07T22:29:29  <wilpig> btw update the oncall schedule.  you aren't on the page
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2012-08-07T23:02:44  <dasunt> It's kind of sad I'm putting programming languages I really don't remember that well on my resume.
2012-08-07T23:03:01  <dasunt> But I figure if I apply and get a call back, I'll just glance at a webpage and do a few simple programs to recall what I know.
2012-08-07T23:04:16  <wilpig> it isn't hard to get back into a language that you once knew
2012-08-07T23:05:11  <wilpig> and really if you have any good structured experience you should be able to work into any other language with a decent learning curve
2012-08-07T23:05:18  <dasunt> Yep.
2012-08-07T23:05:32  <dasunt> It's not like I actually forgot the langauges, I just haven't used them in awhile.
2012-08-07T23:06:16  <wilpig> i'm getting closer to being able to say I speakith JS
2012-08-07T23:07:34  <dasunt> Now I'm online trying to find someone who does a far better summary than me for a resume.
2012-08-07T23:12:33  <dasunt> Hmmm.
2012-08-07T23:18:31  <wilpig> http://international.download.nvidia.com/geforce-com/international/comparisons/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-tweak-guide/Skyrim-Tweak-Guide-Detail-Comparison.html  <-- neat effect
2012-08-07T23:18:32  <GateKeeper> Title: GeForce.com The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Tweak Guide - Detail Level Comparison (at international.download.nvidia.com)
2012-08-07T23:23:14  <wilpig> http://i47.tinypic.com/15pnzib.jpg