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2012-07-21T04:32:24  <wilpig> Dagmar: he even made her a t-shirt that read "wingmom"
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2012-07-21T10:08:59  <Bahhumbug> http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2012/07/new-programming-jargon.html
2012-07-21T10:09:00  <GateKeeper> Title: Coding Horror: New Programming Jargon (at www.codinghorror.com)
2012-07-21T11:42:31  <sdodson> derp da derp
2012-07-21T11:58:02  <sdodson> Bahhumbug: many lols
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2012-07-21T13:25:07  <wilpig> Bahhumbug: lol.  I want to start using yoda conditions just to fuck with Dolemite
2012-07-21T13:42:32  <ZombieChicken> There was a comment that mentioned at least one good reason to use them
2012-07-21T13:43:02  <wilpig> i'm just thinking it would really mess with his head
2012-07-21T13:43:26  <wilpig> and obviously i'd have to write all my comments like yoda for whichever section that was too
2012-07-21T13:44:01  <ZombieChicken> Having a good technical reason might help if he starts complaining
2012-07-21T13:44:51  <wilpig> like i'd need a good reason.  he knows me.  the fact that I would be laughing my ass off when/if he called me on it would be tell enough
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2012-07-21T14:39:14  <Bahhumbug> ZombieChicken: some (older) compilers might optimize those conditions differently.  This might be good or it might be bad.
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2012-07-21T14:57:45  <NotLarry> wilpig:  you awake?
2012-07-21T15:02:53  <NotLarry> well fuck me.  somehow I'm not forwarding my ssh connections today:|
2012-07-21T15:05:07  <wilpig> yes i am
2012-07-21T15:05:11  <wilpig> why?
2012-07-21T15:05:48  <NotLarry> just trying to figure out where forwarding broke down on me.
2012-07-21T15:06:06  <wilpig> ?
2012-07-21T15:08:54  <NotLarry> trying to ssh to angry on port 31337 and it is timing out.  Not finding the breakdown.  This has been working.  In fact was working from inside the network at 4am
2012-07-21T15:10:48  <wilpig> lemme look
2012-07-21T15:12:17  <wilpig> DNAT       tcp  --  0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0           tcp dpt:31337 to:10.10.0.53:22
2012-07-21T15:12:20  <wilpig> DNAT       tcp  --  0.0.0.0/0            68.53.104.117       tcp dpt:31337 to:10.10.0.90
2012-07-21T15:12:29  <wilpig> that's why
2012-07-21T15:12:45  <wilpig> you have conflicting rules
2012-07-21T15:15:02  <NotLarry> sry, that was a typo.  it should not be there now.
2012-07-21T15:15:58  <wilpig> and is it working now?
2012-07-21T15:16:02  <NotLarry> nope
2012-07-21T15:16:33  <wilpig> probably a routing problem then
2012-07-21T15:16:34  <wilpig> one sec
2012-07-21T15:17:06  <wilpig> I don't have access to .53
2012-07-21T15:19:38  <NotLarry> should now
2012-07-21T15:20:27  <wilpig> none of my usual passwords
2012-07-21T15:22:46  <NotLarry> fixed that
2012-07-21T15:25:54  <wilpig> your default route isnt to the firewall
2012-07-21T15:26:13  <NotLarry> could be a problem
2012-07-21T15:27:26  <wilpig> there
2012-07-21T15:27:30  <NotLarry> yup
2012-07-21T15:28:33  <wilpig> back to porn for me now?
2012-07-21T15:28:46  <NotLarry> of course, thank you again.
2012-07-21T16:07:24  <NotLarry> http://sports.yahoo.com/news/major-league-soccer-not-renew-204000549--mls.html - my first reaction was "there is major league soccer?"
2012-07-21T16:07:26  <GateKeeper> Title: Major League Soccer will not renew partnership with Boy Scouts of America following 2012 season - Yahoo! Sports (at sports.yahoo.com)
2012-07-21T16:38:11  <Bahhumbug> BSA is under a lot of fire lately and they will be losing sponsors and partnerships until the wake up and drop their rightwing religious bigotry.
2012-07-21T16:41:37  <rangerz> Bahhumbug: unfortunately most of their funding comes from that rightwing religious bigotry sponsors
2012-07-21T16:41:49  <rangerz> aka the mormon and catholic church
2012-07-21T16:43:38  <rangerz> personally I'm hoping that a big shake up happens in the catholic church here soon, and stops their gay bashing, if they would just listen to the nuns... but no... the cardinals just want to have a war of recruiting in africa... and in africa you have to be so far conservative that they are losing membership in the "west"
2012-07-21T16:44:48  <rangerz> but the mormon church... they are just the same as always, I'm surprised they are even letting blacks in now, with their views on "dark skinned persons" etc
2012-07-21T16:45:40  <Bahhumbug> Most catholics in the US don't give a fuck what your sexual preferences are; it's just the hierarchy that does.  And most catholics don't have the respect (or fear) any more about the hierarchy.
2012-07-21T16:46:49  <Bahhumbug> The College of Cardinals will be relenting on their nonsense soon as the church is bleeding money left and right.
2012-07-21T16:48:28  <Bahhumbug> As far as the mormans.... I don't personally care what anyone worships.  Go pray to a worm for all I care; they have the right to believe in anything they want, even when it comes to airplanes and magic underwear.  But I also have the right to think they're batshit nuts.
2012-07-21T16:49:38  <Bahhumbug> And besides the tax issues, his mouth and his wife's mouth, the association with the LDS church is going to cost Romney the election.
2012-07-21T16:57:17  <Dagmar> I think he should just promise a jello salad on every table.
2012-07-21T16:58:39  <rangerz> so i have a cousin who goes to those southern bapatist black churches (in ohio(yes there are some up there))... and he was telling my mom that their priests were telling people to not vote for mormons, b/c they aren't christians
2012-07-21T16:58:54  <rangerz> so i forsee a lot of people voting against romney b/c of that POV
2012-07-21T16:59:19  <rangerz> i see a lot of baptists voting that way in particular, both black and white
2012-07-21T17:00:04  <NotLarry> That is all fine and good but your still going to hell for sucking cock.
2012-07-21T17:00:36  <NotLarry> Damn.  Didn't intend to hit enter.
2012-07-21T17:08:05  <rangerz> sure
2012-07-21T17:13:13  <Bahhumbug> People are morons.  "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints" sorta indicates christianity.
2012-07-21T17:13:52  <Bahhumbug> But I do concur; there are a lot of people, mostly all from the south, that believe that nonsense.
2012-07-21T17:14:15  <Bahhumbug> The belief system in the Morman church might be a little out of left field, but it's still Christianity.
2012-07-21T17:15:24  <Bahhumbug> Then again, I'm Catholic (non-practicing) and I have to deal with the same sort of bullshit from members of the Church of Christ.
2012-07-21T17:23:39  <rangerz> "it is my god given right as an irish catholic to ignore anything the catholic church says"
2012-07-21T17:26:23  <Bahhumbug> Damned Straight.
2012-07-21T17:26:29  <Bahhumbug> Oh yeah, I'm Irish as well :)
2012-07-21T17:26:40  <Bahhumbug> So I'm doubly fucked over in the guilt department.
2012-07-21T17:27:51  <NotLarry> and your hung like a parakeet?
2012-07-21T17:28:15  <rangerz> irish , not asian
2012-07-21T17:28:39  <NotLarry> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=irish%20curse
2012-07-21T17:28:40  <GateKeeper> Title: Urban Dictionary: irish curse (at www.urbandictionary.com)
2012-07-21T17:30:05  <NotLarry> well fuck me.  I'm in the middle of a 20g scp and my internal network can no longer be routed to from the firewall.
2012-07-21T17:30:14  <brimstone> rsync dood
2012-07-21T17:30:20  <brimstone> it can resume that scp too
2012-07-21T17:30:41  <brimstone> rsync -Pa host:path/to/file path/to/dir/
2012-07-21T17:30:55  <Bahhumbug> +1 to rsync.
2012-07-21T17:31:23  <brimstone> the only thing good about scp is no deps and it's -3 option
2012-07-21T17:31:27  <brimstone> rsync for everything else
2012-07-21T17:31:49  <NotLarry> the copy is still going, I'm just wondering if I left enough free space for the file.
2012-07-21T17:32:12  <Bahhumbug> brimstone: indeed
2012-07-21T17:32:49  <NotLarry> I don't know, it is a single file and I just did a quick scp
2012-07-21T17:35:57  <rangerz> so is there a good git GUI?
2012-07-21T17:36:31  <rangerz> other than a mirror in NotLarry's bedroom
2012-07-21T17:36:37  <rangerz> damn i didn't mean to hit enter on that
2012-07-21T17:40:17  <rangerz> but seriously, i've heard github has the best ui, and wondering about others' opinions
2012-07-21T17:43:34  <brimstone> you want an opinion?
2012-07-21T17:43:38  <brimstone> i'll give you an opinion
2012-07-21T17:43:42  <brimstone> github is incredible
2012-07-21T17:43:57  <brimstone> they turned a distributed system into a centralized system
2012-07-21T17:44:21  <brimstone> they built a social network... that you can't host yourself
2012-07-21T17:44:33  * brimstone spits
2012-07-21T17:51:09  <rangerz>  i dunno, i know that our private (but "open source") git repo is being cloned to github
2012-07-21T17:51:34  <rangerz> as a secondary back up/ for better UI/branch control
2012-07-21T17:51:50  <brimstone> clone to gitorious
2012-07-21T17:51:53  <brimstone> or use git2web
2012-07-21T18:00:32  <NotLarry> I think someone hit the EPO for my home server closet
2012-07-21T18:01:28  <NotLarry> and by that I mean, turned off the light switch by the back door that powers the garage where I keep the servers and the dobermans.
2012-07-21T18:02:27  <NotLarry> neighbor got a rottweiler resently.  It keeps whining at the fence for me to come pet it.  I bet I know what the real plan is.
2012-07-21T18:03:01  <Bahhumbug> I don't trust github.  Never have.
2012-07-21T18:03:18  <Bahhumbug> Nothing tangible, just a gut feeling.
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2012-07-21T20:00:01  <NotLarry> ok, Why use rsync over scp for a single file?
2012-07-21T20:01:06  <NotLarry> that was phrased poorly.
2012-07-21T20:02:04  <brimstone> resume support
2012-07-21T20:06:50  <Bahhumbug> resume support, differential copy.
2012-07-21T20:12:16  <NotLarry> and rsync will resume the dc'd scp?
2012-07-21T20:12:23  <brimstone> yup
2012-07-21T20:12:48  <brimstone> rsync has a ton of options, but you really only need -Pa
2012-07-21T20:13:03  <brimstone> sometimes --delete is nice, if you want to make one directory look exactly like another
2012-07-21T20:15:21  <NotLarry> I use it for a bunch of stuff but I just want to copy this one file and I sure do like the status bar:)
2012-07-21T20:21:52  <NotLarry> I mean use rsync, and by a bunch of stuff I mean copying porn.
2012-07-21T20:26:20  <brimstone> so, a lot
2012-07-21T20:30:07  <Bahhumbug> heh
2012-07-21T20:57:28  <rangerz> anyone have comcast internet? I've been getting charged 7$ for modem rental fee... which is making me think about just buying my own damn modem (which i assume should be possible) , so any input from anyone (i haven't even started googling/etc yet)
2012-07-21T21:16:32  <MaxieZ> I just tested rsync with one file using -Pa and it copied the file over again from scratch.  Will complete a partially copied file?
2012-07-21T21:17:19  <MaxieZ> Er...What option will complete a partially copied file.
2012-07-21T21:17:22  <MaxieZ> I can't word.
2012-07-21T21:30:18  <brimstone> rangerz: yes, you can
2012-07-21T21:30:41  <brimstone> MaxieZ: -P implies --partial, which should perform the resume function
2012-07-21T21:30:44  <brimstone> it has for me in the past
2012-07-21T22:14:28  <Dagmar> rangerz: The handy thing about owning your own modem is that they last easily long enough to make it the cheaper option, plus, if Comcast tries to disable the admin/monitoring interface, you can say "NO.  MINE!"
2012-07-21T22:53:47  <rangerz> yeah, i just don't know where to even start
2012-07-21T22:54:00  <rangerz> i know even freaking walmart sells the moto surfboard ones, lol
2012-07-21T22:55:53  <rangerz> if its 70$ bucks thats only 10 months(heck even 1yr manf. warranty is longer), so well worth it
2012-07-21T23:53:13  <brimstone> Husky: go plastic