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I think I have it working correctly now though. 2012-07-18T09:35:11 not a bad deal if you only need one pci slot http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3466047&sku=B69-0581 2012-07-18T09:35:16 Title: MSI AMD Series Motherboard and AMD Phenom II X6 1045T 2.70GHz AM3 Processor and ADATA Premier Srs 4GB DDR3 Desktop Memory Module and Thermaltake V2 ATX Mid Tower Case with 450W PSU and Raygo 6f Bundle at TigerDirect.com (at www.tigerdirect.com) 2012-07-18T09:40:07 rebate direct brings you another great deal! 2012-07-18T09:40:45 yeah they love their rebates 2012-07-18T09:40:59 even without filling the rebate that isn't bad for a hex core 2012-07-18T09:41:02 I don't do MIR anymore 2012-07-18T09:41:12 the board supports up to 16GB on ram 2012-07-18T09:42:17 yeah, but that's also getting close to 2 generations old tech since piledriver is slated to come out this year 2012-07-18T09:42:27 but still not bad hardware 2012-07-18T09:42:34 I have a 1100T in my box 2012-07-18T09:43:01 and I think the phenom2s are better than the 1st gen zambezi stuff 2012-07-18T09:43:05 it's several generations better than what I have going for me right now 2012-07-18T09:43:34 I don't have anything above a dual core here 2012-07-18T09:48:29 huh...the pilerdriver stuff has apparently already launched in AMD's fusion (mobile) chips 2012-07-18T09:49:10 and desktop chips in october 2012-07-18T10:12:25 *** Corydon76-home has joined #se2600 2012-07-18T10:12:25 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Corydon76-home 2012-07-18T10:27:24 *** benthemeek has joined #se2600 2012-07-18T10:27:24 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o benthemeek 2012-07-18T10:39:05 Why? 2012-07-18T10:39:15 er, wrong window 2012-07-18T10:40:43 .. because... 2012-07-18T10:40:58 sheesh 2012-07-18T10:41:42 Dolemite: You'll be amused to know that I'm probably going to file my next change with verbiage like "IT R BROKEN. I FIX." 2012-07-18T10:41:57 Yeah, I saw your rant against Taj the other day 2012-07-18T10:42:23 Since apparently the sentence "There will be and can be no service interruption from this change." is just impossible to parse, I will have to write them in utter moron. 2012-07-18T10:42:24 I guess with Cindy gone, somebody had to take up the torch of asking stupid questions, just to feel like they were contributing to the change discussion 2012-07-18T10:42:32 Cindy was never quite that stupid 2012-07-18T10:42:59 She came close sometimes 2012-07-18T10:43:55 But yeah, Taj likes to posture to reassure herself that she has some form of control over things. 2012-07-18T10:44:09 Remember when I had the NOC updating the ITS Status Line every day? 2012-07-18T10:44:09 "I like being able to see people's passwords" -- Taj, when I was working with her. 2012-07-18T10:44:21 Yep 2012-07-18T10:44:38 She went apeshit over that, because she wanted to remain in control over it... but of course, she never updated it, so it turned into another useless tool 2012-07-18T10:45:14 I got peeved at her and went to Matt over the fact that she claimed we didn't sound "professional" 2012-07-18T10:45:32 Wow, those are pretty much fighting words 2012-07-18T10:45:46 What an ignorant bitch 2012-07-18T10:46:00 *** benthemeek has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2012-07-18T10:46:31 She's probably another one like Cathy C. - they've tried to get rid of her, but she knew how to hold the system by the balls and cry claims of discrimination 2012-07-18T10:46:44 Well, sounding professional is the way to get executives to give you more money. But there is a balance to be had. Refuse to acknowledge issues and you start looking incompetent 2012-07-18T10:47:12 If I had heard what she said during the meeting I would have called it for what it was... illiteracy 2012-07-18T10:47:14 Corydon76-home : Her issue wasn't with the content not being professional, but our voices not sounding like professional voice-over artists 2012-07-18T10:47:26 I really need to find something super trivial that needs a change so I can bait her, now 2012-07-18T10:47:52 Because any moron having read the rest of the notes would have said "Oh, he's added two words to a shell script" 2012-07-18T10:47:58 Dagmar : Put in a change stating that you need to adjust servers to make up for the recent leap second 2012-07-18T10:48:09 Dolemite: easy way to solve that is to find a quiet office and record it several times, until the enunciation is perfect. I've done that with PBX systems. 2012-07-18T10:48:10 hah no thanks 2012-07-18T10:48:40 Corydon; Easier way is to say "Voice Actor's Guild membership isn't cheap. Are you paying for it?" 2012-07-18T10:48:53 I know goddamn well I sound "professional" when I do recordings 2012-07-18T10:48:59 Corydon76-home : The point is that the status line was a tool to give the users so that they could call it to get updates instead of swamping the NOC with questions. Sounding like a voice-over was the least of our worries. 2012-07-18T10:49:17 Of course it was utterly fucking useless since no one ever called it. 2012-07-18T10:49:25 Dolemite: fair enough 2012-07-18T10:49:31 The NOC couldn't update it in realtime because dumbasses would be busy calling the NOC instead of that number. 2012-07-18T10:50:00 Well this was the attempt to change that, and we had Matt talk about it to the ITLC, but yeah, it's back to a number that nobody remembers 2012-07-18T10:50:06 Dagmar: the way to solve that is to stick a PBX in front of the number for the NOC 2012-07-18T10:50:11 At least they followed twitter 2012-07-18T10:50:16 and the dashboard 2012-07-18T10:50:17 That wouldn't work. 2012-07-18T10:50:22 They'd just demand a direct line to the NOC 2012-07-18T10:50:58 I kid you not one day I got eight calls within four minutes after netsec wobbled the perimiter firewall 2012-07-18T10:51:11 The last person asked if anything was being done about the outage and I told them "No." 2012-07-18T10:51:15 "Why?" 2012-07-18T10:51:43 "Because I can't call the relevant people to fix it because everyone is calling my phone instead of partner support like they're supposed to" *click* 2012-07-18T10:52:04 Dagmar: +1 2012-07-18T10:52:37 The change management process here is no longer being used for the purposes of transparency and communication. 2012-07-18T10:52:51 The only purpose it is serving is one of foot-dragging and posturing. 2012-07-18T10:54:51 Bahhumbug: The sad thing is that I was so used to it I wasn't even upset 2012-07-18T10:55:19 I was pretty much just waiting for someone to get angry about not being notified, and then I was going to turn *them* loose on the problem of people ignoring procedure. 2012-07-18T10:55:19 That's when you start to consider that perhaps it's time to look for work elsewhere. 2012-07-18T10:55:48 Not much I can do about this change management degradation, other than just say "fuck it" and quit filing changes. 2012-07-18T10:56:05 ...which is probably going to happen anyway until HR drops this hiring freeze crap 2012-07-18T10:56:10 And then people will get their panties all bunched up when you don't file changes. 2012-07-18T10:56:18 You can't really win. 2012-07-18T10:56:22 Oh I can win 2012-07-18T10:56:24 Is it that the process and usefullness has changed, or that your perspective has changed now that you're in EAI? 2012-07-18T10:56:41 No, the way the process is being handled has changed 2012-07-18T10:57:12 I think this may be in part because I filed a change in the recent past that actually required managers to pay attention and do some work 2012-07-18T10:57:33 I got the filesystem replication thing working properly by just writing a whole new script that does it correctly. 2012-07-18T10:57:52 Anyone who had read the old script would ahve been able to gain root on any of the shared web servers. 2012-07-18T10:58:19 I needed them to tell the stakeholders to check their replication.policy files, because things were about to *start working* in places they hadn't before. 2012-07-18T10:58:24 That was apparenrly too complex for them. 2012-07-18T10:58:48 Also, they couldn't be bothered to email the users without screwing it up for a week or two. 2012-07-18T10:59:08 SO what should have been a five week deployment turned into something that took almost three full months. 2012-07-18T10:59:46 ...so I'm not wasting my time typing tyings like 'the' and 'an' and using adjectives in those changes anymore. 2012-07-18T10:59:53 hah 2012-07-18T11:00:01 I'm just going to write as if I need a two-year old to understand it 2012-07-18T11:00:48 If they want to reject those changes, that's fine. Shit can stsay broken. 2012-07-18T11:01:07 I'm already on call every other week, and having to do crap at 11pm every other night of those weeks, so fuck it 2012-07-18T11:01:38 I have no problems leaving things broken that don't result in me getting calls 2012-07-18T11:02:20 Actually... heh. 2012-07-18T11:02:43 I have a stellar idea. I'll put in a change for updating all the patches on a few servers. 2012-07-18T11:02:56 When they posture and reject it, I'll just not do it. 2012-07-18T11:03:15 I draw the line at the point where their screwing around interferes with my ability to do my job. 2012-07-18T11:42:06 *** Catonic has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2012-07-18T11:46:31 *** Catonic has joined #se2600 2012-07-18T11:46:31 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Catonic 2012-07-18T11:46:38 well, the ups is dead =( 2012-07-18T12:29:25 *** psyiode has joined #se2600 2012-07-18T12:45:32 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o psyiode 2012-07-18T14:05:44 Nice big thunderboomers outside 2012-07-18T14:05:54 If I can hear it all the way in my office, it's loud 2012-07-18T14:06:12 So glad I drove the truck today, instead of riding the motorcycle 2012-07-18T14:06:58 You don't like your wet bottom ride? 2012-07-18T14:09:14 I don't care about being wet, but I do care about dodging lightning and trying to get traction on slick roads 2012-07-18T14:20:24 Fucking Android forums 2012-07-18T14:20:45 what this time? 2012-07-18T14:24:16 There's a problem with the eMMC reasures that's hard-bricking some phones. 2012-07-18T14:24:31 No one seems to be able to give a straight answer about whether the OTA update can trigger it 2012-07-18T14:26:49 Fuck it. 2012-07-18T14:26:52 I'm going to find out 2012-07-18T14:27:03 eMMC? 2012-07-18T14:27:07 Maybe later I'll come across a chart explaining what the fucking build numbers are 2012-07-18T14:27:25 Catonic: the eeprom storage, basically 2012-07-18T14:27:44 fucking fe20, ff02, ff18? are they random or what... 2012-07-18T14:27:50 Dagmar: aren't the OTA updates essentially anything that could be done over USB, too? 2012-07-18T14:28:55 Corydon: Yeah but there appears there may be a difference between using say, ClockworkMod (fancy, in-phone update) or Odin (which appears to be a dump over USB) and stock recovery, which is apparently very similar to ClockworkMod involving jsut the phone and telling it which file from the sdcard to use 2012-07-18T14:29:01 So it's entirely conceivable that they could brick a phone, though usually carriers are more cautious about that, because they usually wind up causing huge headaches? 2012-07-18T14:29:12 This is Spring. 2012-07-18T14:29:15 er Sprint. 2012-07-18T14:29:46 I know I have a phone that is affected by the wonky code, which may or may not go spare if something tries a secure mmc erase 2012-07-18T14:30:00 I wouldn't put it past them to know this, and just postpone the update indefinitely 2012-07-18T14:30:13 I *have* the update file, straight from Google in fact. 2012-07-18T14:30:55 I know that T-Mobile has some updates that will simply refuse to apply if the phone is altered in any way from stock firmware 2012-07-18T14:30:58 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494847 <-- this thread is seven hundred pages fucking long 2012-07-18T14:30:59 Title: ICS for Epic Touch!!! FF18 Update thread - xda-developers (at forum.xda-developers.com) 2012-07-18T14:31:19 Corydon: Well ,the file I have is the exact same thing OTA pushes out 2012-07-18T14:32:24 I take that back, over 1,000 pages 2012-07-18T14:38:07 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcsfJXKv23o <-- pretty damn straightforward 2012-07-18T14:38:08 Title: How to Manually Update to Official FF18 ICS on the Samsung Epic 4G Touch - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 2012-07-18T14:38:20 The update URL appears below the fold 2012-07-18T14:53:04 *** ShadowHntr has joined #se2600 2012-07-18T14:53:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ShadowHntr 2012-07-18T15:02:11 ahso 2012-07-18T15:11:31 Dagmar: I thought running custom ROMs pretty much nixed the use of OTA updates. 2012-07-18T15:17:18 *** sasquatc4 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2012-07-18T15:27:38 *** Corydon76-work has joined #se2600 2012-07-18T15:27:38 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Corydon76-work 2012-07-18T15:29:12 *** csamuelson has joined #se2600 2012-07-18T15:29:29 *** ShadowHn1r has joined #se2600 2012-07-18T15:30:00 *** MaxieZ_ has joined #se2600 2012-07-18T15:34:12 *** ShadowHntr has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2012-07-18T15:34:12 *** Corydon76-home has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2012-07-18T15:34:12 *** ladymerlin has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2012-07-18T15:34:12 *** Dolemite has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2012-07-18T15:34:12 *** Rious has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2012-07-18T15:34:12 *** MaxieZ has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2012-07-18T15:34:13 *** csamuelson is now known as Rious 2012-07-18T15:34:56 *** ladymerlin has joined #se2600 2012-07-18T15:36:24 *** rangerz has joined #se2600 2012-07-18T15:37:49 *** rangerz1 has joined #se2600 2012-07-18T15:41:39 *** rangerz has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2012-07-18T15:46:23 *** Dolemite has joined #se2600 2012-07-18T16:46:34 Time to murdicate my phone with an update 2012-07-18T17:23:11 Flashing now 2012-07-18T17:26:08 so since you may be bricking your phone.... 2012-07-18T17:26:16 Well, probably not 2012-07-18T17:26:22 opinions on phone offerings from verizon? 2012-07-18T17:26:30 I did poke around this patch zip a bit. 2012-07-18T17:26:52 my gf is getting a new one... S SIII, razr maxx, droid 4? 2012-07-18T17:26:55 i dont keep up 2012-07-18T17:27:05 It's looking like it might be easier than I expected to prepare an image without the Sprint crap installed 2012-07-18T17:27:15 nice 2012-07-18T17:27:24 psyiode: All three are pretty goddamn awesome 2012-07-18T17:27:45 You might as well throw a Nexus model into the mix if you can 2012-07-18T17:28:09 yeah, there was that too 2012-07-18T17:28:11 TouchWiz is actually a pretty decent addition to the Android interface tho (Galaxy SIII) 2012-07-18T17:28:21 my understanding is nexus would get updates from google sooner 2012-07-18T17:28:30 hi psyiode 2012-07-18T17:28:33 heya 2012-07-18T17:28:34 Yes, Nexus gets it's updates _directly_ from Google 2012-07-18T17:28:52 So... no waiting six months for some batch of halfwits to test all the bloatware 2012-07-18T17:28:58 right 2012-07-18T17:29:01 s/six months/A GODDAMN YEAR/ 2012-07-18T17:29:06 not that it matters much for her use case 2012-07-18T17:29:09 hehe 2012-07-18T17:29:25 ooooo ICS fonts! 2012-07-18T17:29:52 Yeah it looks like the stock recovery option didn't explode the EMMC problem 2012-07-18T17:30:18 I'll have to run the little app again to see if this updated the Samsung part of the firmware 2012-07-18T17:30:35 In theory that would mean I could then safely use Odin to really fuck around 2012-07-18T17:37:46 * MaxieZ_ yawns 2012-07-18T17:45:38 Causation: Sprint never actually pushed this update to my phone, but not five minutes after rebooting it, I get a notification reminding me about one of their dumbass features on their social site getting an update. 2012-07-18T17:45:49 Their ability to spam me from within the fucking phone is going AWAY 2012-07-18T18:00:20 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Dolemite 2012-07-18T18:16:37 I'm guessing it would have been announced, but has Phreaknic started up the search for art work yet? 2012-07-18T18:23:08 *** kive has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2012-07-18T18:26:11 *** kive has joined #se2600 2012-07-18T18:26:11 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o kive 2012-07-18T18:27:30 I think so, but don't quote me on that 2012-07-18T19:07:20 *** Iyeman has joined #se2600 2012-07-18T19:07:20 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Iyeman 2012-07-18T19:14:36 *** kive has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2012-07-18T19:26:34 *** sasquatc4 has joined #se2600 2012-07-18T19:26:35 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o sasquatc4 2012-07-18T20:08:32 how the fuck do some of these jackasses I work with keep their jobs? 2012-07-18T20:10:43 I'm asking myself the same question. 2012-07-18T20:11:07 http://www.explosm.net/comics/2864/ ROFL 2012-07-18T20:11:08 Title: Cyanide & Happiness #2864 - Explosm.net (at www.explosm.net) 2012-07-18T20:11:31 lol 2012-07-18T20:11:33 if you have a job that you don't take home with you and you then take vacation for two weeks. 2012-07-18T20:11:47 when you get back you don't spend the first however many hours trying to findout what happened while you were gone 2012-07-18T20:12:21 dumb fucker has no clue he has a shit job that stays at work. if there isn't a problem currently going on you don't need to be concerned about it 2012-07-18T20:13:21 meanwhile... there is an email sitting in the shared mailbox since monday afternoon requesting a cable be run 2012-07-18T20:13:57 I inquire as the to status of the cable.. "I dunno. I was too busy reading email from when I was gone during the 30 minute shift change to ask the guy that was here when that email was dealt with" 2012-07-18T20:46:01 ohh good... TN tea party(s?) are attacking the TN gov for employing gays and Muslims.... 2012-07-18T21:06:18 oh jesus, that was stupid 2012-07-18T21:07:48 wilpig: dude that sucks 2012-07-18T21:08:34 "Oh, I deleted everything from before I left." 2012-07-18T21:12:38 I'm just amazed. I really am. 2012-07-18T21:15:12 Hey at least he didnt' delete it 2012-07-18T21:16:10 it's a request for accre. so I don't really care one way or the other 2012-07-18T21:16:26 I care about the fact that it is there and he somehow didn't think to ask about it for over 12 hours 2012-07-18T21:20:46 enh he probably forgot about it 2012-07-18T21:21:05 he said he didnt' even see it when I asked about it 2012-07-18T21:26:19 Hmm... 2012-07-18T21:26:36 My phone was acting a little wobbly earlier after the ICS update but I think I've got it sorted now 2012-07-18T21:26:45 ics is nice 2012-07-18T21:26:48 I flushed the Dalvik cache and reset a few things. 2012-07-18T21:27:33 About a dozen apps came up wanting updates, apparently due to ICS, and one was the Ivona TTS stuff. That was probably the necessary thing since the phone crashed as a call was coming in (and it never started talking like usual) 2012-07-18T21:28:04 I was *slightly* concerned about the EMMC bug but managed to finally satisfy my theory that they might be carefully stepping around that in the OTA zip 2012-07-18T21:28:27 I also got to manually tell it to update the PRL and profile. 2012-07-18T21:28:59 Since both of those (now I know) say there was no update if there's no newer/different information available, that might have been needed as well 2012-07-18T21:29:29 I did see one thing that doesn't surprise me 2012-07-18T21:30:01 Unless they're pushing promo info out over SMS or some sub-carrier, it hides whatever traffic the Sprint apps use to check for "offers" 2012-07-18T21:30:39 One of the things I was waiting for in ICS was the way it doesn't show you aggregate usage... It tells you exactly which apps were responsible for how much traffic. 2012-07-18T21:31:25 Hopefully more details will come out about avoiding the EMMC bug, otherwise I'm going to have to stick with reckless experimentation on my tablet 2012-07-18T21:32:20 Hehe I saw a number of threads about factor resets today where people came back complaining that it was asking for a PIN. 2012-07-18T21:32:34 ...like it would be THAT easy to take over a stolen phone. 2012-07-18T21:43:03 alright gonna go track down this server 2012-07-18T22:22:47 *** kive has joined #se2600 2012-07-18T22:22:47 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o kive 2012-07-18T22:59:33 http://vimeo.com/45784191 2012-07-18T22:59:34 Title: Michelle Jenneke on Vimeo (at vimeo.com) 2012-07-18T23:03:32 *** psyiode has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2012-07-18T23:03:55 *** psyiode has joined #se2600