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00:05 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: that was a friend of Notlarry's he calls quickspells
00:11 <@Evilpig> Anyone know anything about this?  I saw the trailer last week and thought it might not be bad despite being a musical.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT_Ytd21mKg
00:11 < GateKeeper> Title: Rock of Ages Official Trailer 2012 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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03:10 <@Catonic> ow my ass
03:24 <@Evilpig> Catonic: you sharing a room with al?
03:28 <@Catonic> no, had to change chairs
03:28 <@Catonic> mine started dropping every few seconds
03:28 <@Catonic> so, supposed to get a nap before going on an epic trip.. check email at 11pm to find out that something basically ceased working
03:29 <@Evilpig> damn those things that break
03:29 <@Catonic> yeah... I wind up onsite for the last four hours
03:30 <@Evilpig> http://www.explosm.net/comics/2773/
03:30 < GateKeeper> Title: Cyanide & Happiness #2773 - Explosm.net (at www.explosm.net)
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05:03  * Catonic weaponizes random objects
05:23 <@Evilpig> I just angered another bible thumper by asking them what created god.  
05:23 <@Evilpig> the answer given back was god has just always been there.  to which I said that is a bad answer and if everyhting has a beginning and an end then something must have made it. so what made god.
05:24 <@Evilpig> I was told I was being difficult and to shut up
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08:00 <@Sheath> being difficult lol
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09:53 <@Catonic> well, pfsense is reasonably portable
09:53 <@Catonic> got confused when it came up and had a different driver for the ethernet cards.
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11:20 < rangerz1> beware http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKl6AE9WKbk the next "notebook" movie
11:20 < GateKeeper> Title: The Lucky One (2012) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
11:21 < rangerz1> well except for Evilpig.... he'll go and just watch it a few times by himself
11:49 <@Catonic> if you have a pair of diesels, what do you have?
11:49 <@Catonic> I wish hollywood had some level of originality
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18:56 <@Evilpig> sdodson_: who is vic vandal?
19:02 <@brimstone> ware: who is john galt?
19:03 <@Husky> who is dick tracy
19:03 <@brimstone> WHO IS PHONE!?
19:03 <@Husky> yes this is dog
19:03 <@Husky> dog is on the phone
19:05 <@Evilpig> just curious.  got an email about a rule I violated that I can't find the rule written anywhere.
19:07 < ware> brimstone: aint sure
19:08 <@brimstone> i should have asked Dagmar
19:08 <@brimstone> he'd know
19:26 < rangerz1> http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7205038/Dan_Bull_-_Sharing_Is_Caring___bonus_tracks legal music on TPB
19:26 < GateKeeper> Title: Dan Bull - Sharing Is Caring + bonus tracks (download torrent) - TPB (at thepiratebay.se)
19:26 < rangerz1> figured it was worth pointing out, which dan bull actually made the music charts in the UK with his songs from this
19:27 < rangerz1> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HlJnUUC5Ss#! just one of them there is 10 diff versions for each of the big web-sites: google/facebook/etc
19:27 < GateKeeper> Title: FACEBOOK EPIC RAP by Dan Bull - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
19:47 <@Dagmar> Well, that pretty much shows he doesn't believe a word he's saying
19:54 < rangerz1> i wouldn't say that, you can make good points against a platform that you rely upon for marketing yourself
19:57 <@Dagmar> Self-respecting hookers get money for it up front.
19:57 <@Evilpig> damnit.  this wireless redstone glitch is badass and worthless at the same time
19:58 <@Evilpig> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU92T9_8YFU
19:58 < GateKeeper> Title: Minecraft 1.2.5 | Effective Motion Sensor (TUTORIAL) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
19:58 <@Evilpig> have you seen this yet dag?
19:58 <@Evilpig> notlarry and I were testing and you can't have two receivers.  they break the glitch.
20:01 <@Dagmar> hrmm...
20:02 <@Dagmar> What
20:02 <@Dagmar> the
20:02 <@Dagmar> fuck
20:02 <@Evilpig> heh.  you hadn't seen that yet?
20:03 <@Evilpig> deals with the way the block updates happen
20:03 <@Dagmar> No, and I can't even conceive of why that's doing what it's doing
20:03 <@Dagmar> It makes no sense at all
20:03 <@Evilpig> look at his video about the wireless redstone in general and it explains it
20:03 <@Dagmar> That is relevant to my interests
20:04 <@Evilpig> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynhfAt-4U5I
20:04 < GateKeeper> Title: Minecraft 1.2.5 | Wireless Redstone Vanilla | NO MODS! (TUTORIAL) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
20:07 <@Dagmar> Holy shit
20:07 <@Dagmar> That's some black voodoo hax
20:07 <@Dagmar> I'm impressed
20:07 <@Evilpig> I had seent he wireless redstone before but the half slab stuff was new and bad ass
20:09 <@Dagmar> ...and wholly biarrez
20:13 <@Evilpig> so you can have multiple of the glass and iron types but not the half slab.  
20:14 <@Evilpig> that is the part that I find interesting
20:20 < rangerz1> obviously it has something to do with edge detection
20:21 < rangerz1> and different objects behave differently
20:21 < rangerz1> (though i've never once played minecraft)
20:21 <@Dagmar> He does explain it in the secodn video Evilpig linked
20:22 <@Dagmar> Apparently, there's quite a bit of client-side magic that takes place with respect to objects which have non-square hitboxes
20:22 <@Dagmar> What it amounts to is that the game is shortcutting and considering all non-cubic hitboxes to be perfectly cubic--until it's forced to consider them otherwise
20:22 <@Dagmar> ...like by sticking an arrow in one
20:23 <@Evilpig> what it is, is a bad ass bug like the original minecart booster
20:33 < eryc> the water elevator is neat
20:33 < eryc> do you need the redstone wifi for that?
20:34 <@Dagmar> Neither of those videos involved any form of wireless
20:34 <@Evilpig> the two I posted did
20:34 <@Dagmar> There *is* a mod for "wireless" redstone, where it's in the design that there won't be a manually constructed path directly from transmitter to reciever
20:35 <@Dagmar> This is just glitchery which beahves like wirelessness
20:35 <@Dagmar> s/bea/be/
20:35 <@Evilpig> it is.  but the half slab glitch works well over 1000 blcoks away
20:35 <@Dagmar> That I find interesting
20:35 <@Dagmar> It shows that at least some of that hitbox magic is happening server-side
20:36 <@Evilpig> the method using the glass panes or iron bars you can have multiple receivers setup.  the half slab is the one that can only have one
20:38 <@Evilpig> that should have been set up.  but same difference at this point
20:38 <@Evilpig> we were talking about making a server wide light system
20:39 <@Dagmar> Oh hey... either the /dmarker command is broken or something weird is going on in permissions
20:39 <@Evilpig> press one button and anyone on the system's lights come on
20:39 <@Dagmar> I got an error when I tried to set markers with the command
20:39 <@Evilpig> what error?
20:39 <@Evilpig> which command?
20:39 <@Dagmar> Dunno.  Lemme see
20:39 <@Dagmar> Well, it was /dmarker add obviously
20:40 <@Dagmar> The thing seems to ignore the signs I put up
20:40 <@Evilpig> I didn't know I had that command
20:40 <@Dagmar> Yeah it's part of dynmap markers
20:42 <@Evilpig> I thought those worked without a command.  you just put something on the sign to make it work
20:42 <@Dagmar> ./dmarker add "Ocean of Despair" icon:compass
20:42 <@Evilpig> never used that
20:42 <@Evilpig> I might need to update it
20:43 <@Dagmar> The only "odd" thign about the sign I put down is that "Ocean" and "of Despair" are on different lines
20:43 <@Dagmar> ...but from looking at the other markers, I'm not sure it really cares if the text is all on one line
20:43 <@Dagmar> Some of those couldn't be on one line
20:44 <@Dagmar> "An internal error occurred while attempting to perform this command"
20:44 <@Evilpig> http://mc.brbuninstalling.com/wordpress/2011/dynmap-markers/
20:44 <@Evilpig> try that
20:44 < GateKeeper> Title: BRB, Minecrafting! - Dynmap Markers (at mc.brbuninstalling.com)
20:44 <@Evilpig> those do work
20:44 <@Evilpig> i'll try to update dynmap later tonight
20:44 <@Dagmar> Yeah the command syntax is what I used
20:44 <@Evilpig> 20:42:05 [SEVERE] null
20:44 <@Evilpig> org.bukkit.command.CommandException: Unhandled exception executing command 'dmarker' in plugin dynmap v0.36.1-1054
20:45 <@Dagmar> I just didn't use id: because it's not mentioned on https://github.com/webbukkit/dynmap/wiki/Commands
20:45 < GateKeeper> Title: Commands · webbukkit/dynmap Wiki · GitHub (at github.com)
20:46 <@Evilpig> I dunno.  
20:47 <@Evilpig> oh I also left you a chest of shovels the other day too.  I think
20:47 < MinecraftRelay> <evilDagmar> I'm sure I have no idea where.
20:48 <@Evilpig> I have no idea either.
20:55 <@Evilpig> updating dynmap now
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20:57 <@Dagmar> Bleh.  I have no M4 screws here
20:59 <@Evilpig> let's see if I broke the map again
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21:00 <@Evilpig> seems to be good to go
21:14 <@Dagmar> THta's just an absurd amount of ocean
21:15 <@Dagmar> Whoa
21:19 < MinecraftRelay> <evilDagmar> Hmm... I'm still wagering I have no perms for the commands
21:19 < MinecraftRelay> <evilDagmar> It keeps spewing a big-ass list of help messages at me
21:20 < MinecraftRelay> <evilDagmar> I didn't know until just now that we could add delineated regions and lines to the map tho
21:20 < MinecraftRelay> <evilDagmar> That can be handy
21:29 < rangerz1> http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/04/19/phd-comics-the-movie-video/#ixzz1sc9nHRsi this will be either amazing or blah
21:29 < GateKeeper> Title: Grad School Funnies Get a Feature Film with 'PhD Comics: The Movie' - ComicsAlliance | Comic book culture, news, humor, commentary, and reviews (at www.comicsalliance.com)
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21:46 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: Ididn't know we could add lines either.  I'll look at the perms later.  I have just the most basic ones in there.
21:48 <@Evilpig> I feel like I need to add another level of zoom to the map now.
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21:53 <@Evilpig> haven't done this in a while.  but.  gonna do a full render.  queue up three days of server churning
21:54 <@Evilpig> it will probably clear up some space though.  cause I think there are old files in there anyhow.  the images directory is over 20GB at this point
21:56 <@Dagmar> Dayum
21:56 <@Evilpig> you gotta keep in mind that render is highres, has two sets of data(day/night) and has the old render from before I fixed the day/night thing in there too, I think
21:58 <@Evilpig> poor server is gagging just trying to remove all those files
22:03 <@Evilpig> 23G     total
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23:02 <@Evilpig> add two more levels of zoom to it.  it's churning, slowly
23:02 <@Dagmar> Okay
23:02 <@Dagmar> I have to say this...
23:02 <@Dagmar> The plot point bridge in Atlas Shrugged is a beautiful piece of work
23:03 <@Evilpig> never heard of it
23:03 <@Dagmar> You should at least watch the movie
23:03 <@Dagmar> It's on Netflix
23:03 <@Evilpig> I don't have netflix. but i'll find it
23:03 <@Dagmar> I think you'll like it
23:03 <@Dagmar> Redbox has it.
23:04 <@Corydon76-home> It's about the worst book in existence
23:04 <@Dagmar> All brilliant people should watch it or read the books
23:04 <@Corydon76-home> Her first book is actually brilliant
23:04 <@Corydon76-home> but Atlas Shrugged is a piece of garbage
23:04 <@Dagmar> I could care less about the technical merits of the writing in this case
23:05 <@Dagmar> What matters is the why and the mechanism
23:05 <@Dagmar> You see it _today_.
23:05 <@Corydon76-home> It's basically sucking the cock of the 1%, ignoring that they would have nothing without the working man
23:05 <@Dagmar> No, the 1% in this are still actually the bad guys
23:05 <@Dagmar> They 1% would like to _beleive_ that they are the protagonists.
23:06 <@Corydon76-home> Well, that was Rand's view
23:06 <@Dagmar> If you demonstrate skill and knowledge, it's possible to be making the money of the 1%.
23:06 <@Dagmar> That they have it without these things is part of the problem.
23:07 <@Dagmar> Being 1% doesn't beget skill or knowledge
23:07 <@Evilpig> it's in my queue for when I get hom
23:07 <@Corydon76-home> You could wipe out the 1% today and the only thing that would change is that workers would actually get paid better
23:07 <@Dagmar> It would be a damn good start.
23:08 <@Dagmar> I'm neither a socialist nor a marxist nor any of that, but it's about time the species started acting like one.
23:10 <@Evilpig> http://dynmap.wilpig.org/?zoom=5&x=-31.217879314853135&y=64&z=-34.04630643959932   <-- current progress
23:10 < GateKeeper> Title: Minecraft Dynamic Map (at dynmap.wilpig.org)
23:11 <@Dagmar> It's definitely pretty
23:11 <@Evilpig> where the pirate ship is didn't used to be snow
23:11 <@Evilpig> kinda like your area didn't either
23:11 <@Dagmar> We can fix that now
23:12 <@Dagmar> It'll just require a bit of map diddling and we can repaint some of these areas with a less intolerable biome
23:12 <@Evilpig> I don't think it much matters. just weird seeing that bay frozen around the ship
23:12 <@Dagmar> My entire place is currently ocean.
23:12 <@Evilpig> no kidding?  I knew the area you were exploring was all ocean
23:12 <@Dagmar> If I come across something that can force-instantate a map I'm tempted to get the seed from you and just find out how odd it is
23:13 <@Dagmar> Run around with signtags loaded and plant signs
23:13 <@Evilpig> dynmap can kinda.  we talked about before how you can make it spawn all the bits inbetween to make sure you ahve a fully square map
23:21 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-home: Egalitarianism was the lie the 1% were telling to lock in the status quo
23:22 <@Corydon76-home> Clearly we just need to adopt Jonathan Swift's idea... eat the rich...
23:22 <@Dagmar> It may come to that
23:23 <@Corydon76-home> Stewed Koch Brother
23:23 <@Evilpig> Buy stock in BBQ sauce
23:23 < Catonic_> let's lynch the landlord, let's lynch the landlord, let's lynch the landlord man!
23:23 <@Dagmar> The landlord isn't the problem
23:25 < Catonic_> when cloning the route, remember to disable dynamic DNS, and change credentials.
23:33 <@Dagmar> I really think I need to stop using the change management form to write these things up
23:33 <@Dagmar> For whatever reason, no matter what I put in the bloody boxes, I write it up wrong every time
23:36 < Catonic_> delegate management of changes to another group =P
23:38 <@Dagmar> pig has a theory that it might not be that I'm losing my mind
23:39 <@Dagmar> The system might be stripping some things out here and there inadvertently
23:39 <@Corydon76-home> But Alzheimer's is just a better theory all around.
23:40 <@Dagmar> Of coures it could also be that the rather nomadic work environment I've got right now is wrecking my brain
23:40 <@Corydon76-home> You're at the age for early-onset
23:40 <@Dagmar> If it's that I'd be ordering black market drugs if I had to
23:41 <@Dagmar> It's also just possible my finger missed the / key
23:41 <@Dagmar> ...but frankly, my week is way more interruptions than it is peaceful
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