--- Log opened Mon Apr 16 00:00:11 2012
00:04 < rangerz> glad to see AMD is getting _some_ software to be optimized on it's platform
00:06 < rangerz> the crap nvidia was pulling with added millions of waste polygons in "optimized for nvidia" games just irks me, and just slowed down games more on amd cards than theirs... but still... underhanded
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00:21 <@Catonic> optimized for... NOT SHIT
00:25 < rangerz> when i was _seriously_ looking into GPGPU stuff, the people who _really_ know how to optimize for hardware all said that AMD was leaps and bounds ahead of nvidia with their SDKs, (mind you this was like 2 years ago, but still) there is huge arch. diff. between the two that helps most calculations run faster on AMD, just a bit easier to code on nvidia
00:28 <@Dagmar> Odd.  ACCRE is having no major problmes.
00:35 < rangerz> Dagmar: were you accidentially nice to a nun today?
00:36 < rangerz> you know i had to laugh today
00:36 < rangerz> when i realized that Vandy probably has a _ton_ less IPs than my undergrad
00:36 < rangerz> every device on the entire network there gets a global IP
00:37 < rangerz> they bought a full class B after they were above 200 computers, lol
00:38 < rangerz> ...back when you could do that... lol
00:45 <@Dagmar> Huh?
00:46 <@Dagmar> We have multiple /16's
00:46 <@Dagmar> ACCRE is using four-way boxes with 560's in them for CUDA accelleration
00:47 <@Dagmar> Astonishingly they are not blowing out the 30A circuits
00:47 <@Dagmar> I was impressed to see the rack weigh in at 19A
00:47 < rangerz> nice
00:47 <@Dagmar> It makes macs look pale and power hungry
00:47 <@Dagmar> One of the depts has only a 3/4 populated rack of 1U macs, and it regularly punches up 24A
00:50 <@Dagmar> You know, dynmap is kinda obnoxious at night
00:51 < rangerz> not as bad as a nagios box which had _every_ single port in it's DB moved up by 1
00:51 < rangerz> i wanted to freaking kill the "sys admin" who did that BS
00:51 <@Dagmar> what the fuck
00:52 < rangerz> instantly it went ape shit and all hell broke loose
00:52 <@Dagmar> How did he even manage to do that without realizing that quite possibly he was doing something very wrong
00:52 <@Dagmar> Wound't that involve fucking SQL calls?
00:52 < rangerz> he was (is?, if he is still alive) a script kiddie
00:52 <@Dagmar> ...unless ya'll are using Fruity
00:52 < rangerz> and he would write perl scripts to manually edit the SQL tables
00:52 <@Dagmar> yeesh
00:53 <@Dagmar> I begin to think I need to refocus on just software dev
00:53 <@Dagmar> ...because there are too many commercial products out that seem to be written by clueless apes
00:54 < rangerz> and the thing is... i setup the nagios box on my own free time, with a spare server... just so i didn't have any calls in the middle of the night... so i'd fix the down hotels before anyone called me about them
00:54 <@Dagmar> Fucking DiamondIP has lately taken to "managing" DNS zones by not actually incremementing the zone serial
00:54 <@Dagmar> Oh... and by in one case, ROLLING IT FUCKING BACKWARDS
00:55 < rangerz> so he didn't care if he messed up my copy of the DB
00:55 < rangerz> since i pulled a copy every 24 hours
00:55 < rangerz> b/c i didn't want blamed for messing with the DB itself
00:56 < rangerz> so he "experimented" with my copy...
00:56 < rangerz> ugh
00:56 <@Dagmar> Next time don't leave htem where he can touch them.
00:57 <@Dagmar> Use mysqldump.
00:57 < rangerz> it was a messed up situation... i was "titled" network admin... but i was doing db/php work
00:57 < rangerz> making a sales server/client/app/thingie...
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01:36 <@Bahhumbug> rolling it backwards?  wtf?
01:36 <@Bahhumbug> Is the the "Fuck With Dagmar's Mind" version or something?
01:36 <@Bahhumbug> s/the the/this/the/
01:36 <@Dagmar> Fuck if I know
01:36 <@Dagmar> The serial in the zone on the server showed 42.
01:37 <@Dagmar> The management interface showed 41.
01:37 <@Dagmar> I'm like "No fucking wonder the slaves aren't getting the notify"
01:37 <@Bahhumbug> um, have they never heard of YYYYMMDDNN where NN is an incremental integer for serialized updates on the given date?
01:38 <@Dagmar> NOpe.
01:38 <@Dagmar> That alone astonishes me
01:38 <@Dagmar> It should just be a mode you can flip on
01:38 <@Bahhumbug> I'm all for murdering the fuckers that wrote that just to get them out of the gene pool.
01:38 <@Dagmar> If you have to make more than 99 zone changes in one day, you're probably *not* doing it with a fucking ouse
01:38 <@Dagmar> er mouse
01:39 <@Dagmar> ...and sheesh it's not like you can't leave out the "20--" part
01:39 <@Dagmar> No, theirs defaults to starting at 1.
01:39 <@Bahhumbug> I've yet to come across a situation that required > 99 in a given 24 hours period.  Ever.
01:39 <@Bahhumbug> heh.  1.
01:39 <@Bahhumbug> excuse me while I laugh a bit.
01:39 <@Bahhumbug> did your IT staff even evaluate this thing before you settled on it?
01:40 <@Dagmar> If you're doing a LOT of updates (like ddns) you can get there, but...
01:40 <@Dagmar> That shit should be done by a script, not by a person
01:40 <@Dagmar> I have no idea
01:40 <@Bahhumbug> or just let bind deal with it automagically.
01:40 <@Dagmar> It's "going away" tho
01:40 <@Bahhumbug> not soon enough, I suspect.
01:40 <@Dagmar> Well, if you do stupid things with the serial, bind WILL let you shoot yourself in the face
01:40 <@Bahhumbug> sure.
01:41 <@Dagmar> Mortvert: Use the voice transcription, fool
01:41 <@Dagmar> wrong chan
01:41 <@Dagmar> Friday I noticed the issue with the serial rolling back
01:41 <@Dagmar> That clears up wuite a bit
01:42 <@Bahhumbug> I've had cases where people have made silly typos / mistakes and caused some amount of irritation, but that's easily enough fixed.
01:42 <@Dagmar> I thought it was just being spastic because I'd only seen it _after_ it had rolled back and then someone had done an update which pushed it forward again
01:42 <@Dagmar> Now I'm just manually setting the damn serial to the yyyymmdd thing every time, just to be fucking sure
01:42 <@Dagmar> I'll put it this way
01:42 <@Bahhumbug> +1
01:43 <@Dagmar> This is an automated system that is generating zone files for a supposely multiple server management system, that is resulting in zone files being WILDLY different because of this
01:43 <@Dagmar> In my eyes, they have failed.
01:43 <@Bahhumbug> I imagine I still have our vizone script around somewhere.  it enforced various aspects of zone sanity, including serial value and format and running named-checkzone around it.
01:43 <@Dagmar> I am pretty fucking sure in a month of man hours I could do better
01:43 <@Bahhumbug> I've no doubt.
01:52 <@Catonic> bitches.
01:58 <@Dagmar> We may have to monkey with this minecraft map a bit
01:58 <@Catonic> I draw the line at nagios + aimbot
02:00 <@Catonic> in my eyes, if the system fails, the designer wasn't done
02:00 <@Catonic> I can understand wanting to do a post-morteum, but not while the customer is down when you have alternatives.
02:02 <@Catonic> in other words, fsck -y is an acceptable option when you have regular backups.
02:10 <@Dagmar> Now I see why Flash was carping about an endless ocean
02:11 <@Dagmar> I've got the client being ultra-agressive about asking for chunks, and have been in this boat for an hour and a half now
02:11 <@Dagmar> ...just piloting by the large overhead map cheat.
02:11 <@Dagmar> I haven't seen anything but spotty little islands
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02:24 <@Catonic> O_O
02:35 <@Catonic> I'm tempted to go running
02:59 <@Corydon76-home> Looks like we're in for a storm:  http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/wtvf/NC5wx/radar/720/rad_regional_720.html
02:59 < GateKeeper> Title: NewsChannel 5 Network Regional Area Radar (at ftpcontent.worldnow.com)
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08:09 < rangerz> http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/blog/Lists/Posts/Post.aspx?ID=742 who wants their 7,000$ android phone from boeing
08:09 < GateKeeper> Title: Boeing to Jump into the Mobile Phone Business - Blog (at www.nationaldefensemagazine.org)
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10:54 <@Dagmar> Seriously, that is a completely shit price
10:54 <@Dagmar> It doesn't cost seven fucking grand to harden a linux phone
10:55 <@Dagmar> It might cost seven grand to basically make bets with insurance agencies so that if your shit gets hacked, you'll have some protection in the coming lawsuit.
10:55 <@Dagmar> In the meantime, your shit got hacked.
11:00 <@Dagmar> Maldivia: It actually *can* be if a proper labeling system is implemented
11:06 < scribbles> but its for govt spending, more $ equals more effective
11:10 <@Dagmar> Fail
11:39 <@Corydon76-home> Actually, considering the market for such a device and the salaries to actually make it, $7k isn't a bad price.
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11:40 <@CNwaV> Anyone going to outerzone?
11:40 <@Corydon76-home> And Dagmar, most of them specifically exclude any liability for getting hacked.
11:41 <@Corydon76-home> CNwaV: Nope.  Feed his ego at your own peril.
11:42 <@CNwaV> I am going to see some friends... I don't care about anyone's ego
11:42 <@Corydon76-home> Are you going to Smoky Mountain GeekNIC next month?
11:42 <@Corydon76-home> May 18-20
11:43 -!- Corydon76-home changed the topic of #se2600 to: GeekNIC is on bitches.  https://www.facebook.com/events/281816741882997/
11:47 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-home: That's not the type of indemnification I'm talking about
13:06 <@Evilpig> CNwaV: I'll be at GeekNIC.  made plans before outerzone announced dates
13:06 <@Evilpig> ladymerlin will be there though
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15:07 <@NotLarry> I only surf the web so you don't have to - http://i.imgur.com/pTyUW.jpg
15:09 < rangerz> nice
15:30 <@NotLarry> Wish I could take the cable tv down from the router:(
15:30 <@Evilpig> we can do that
15:30 <@Evilpig> just need some parts
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15:48 <@Evilpig> now i'm gonna try to get a few hours of sleep before work.  damn other people and their emergencies
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15:54 <@Dagmar> MOTHERFUCKING OCEAN
15:54 < rangerz> did you fall into it again? in nashville
15:54 < notlarry> keep your mother off the beach dude.
15:54 <@Dagmar> NotLarry: Look at the dynmap
15:55 <@Dagmar> Flash will be kinda irked hehe
15:55 <@Dagmar> I think he was looking for mooshrooms
15:56 < notlarry> what am I looking for?
15:56 <@Dagmar> Note the long spike of blue going southeast
15:56 <@Dagmar> The two largest landmasses I came across were both mooshrooms
15:57 < notlarry> donow
15:57 <@Dagmar> Apparently boats have durability now
15:57 <@brimstone> Sheath: that what you smoke? mooshrooms?
15:57 <@Sheath> ya
15:57 <@Dagmar> I was trying to find a village, and for that to happen, I'm pretty sure a non-trivial amount of land is involved
16:03 < notlarry> I don't think you found any land down there
16:04 <@Dagmar> No shit, really?
16:04 <@Dagmar> Literally just two mooshroom biomes
16:04 <@Dagmar> One of which was kinda large
16:05 <@Dagmar> I spent most of that time just holding down 'w' with the map in "big screen" mode navigating by that
16:06 < notlarry> trust me, by this time tomorrow your character will be surrounded by a whole sty full of pigmen.
16:07 <@Dagmar> Dude it's on an island that's about 20x30
16:07 <@Dagmar> I had to dogpaddle to the nearest landmass
16:07 <@Dagmar> heh
16:07 <@Dagmar> One moment I'm crusing through open ocean, the next I'm hearing drowning noises
16:08 <@Dagmar> Apparently either I hit a squid that wrecked the boat or boats can only carry you so far before coming apart
16:29 < rangerz> notlarry: I raise you a templar killer http://fanboyfashion.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Ezio-from-Assassins-Creed-Pumping-Gas.jpg
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17:00 <@Catonic> $7000 is a steal
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19:45 < RangerZ> atleast FL keeps TN from having its own FARK tag
19:46 < RangerZ> FL puts questions on a stanardized science test and then marks them wrong (even though they are right...) because they don't think a 5th grader should have been able to to know that they were the right answer... ugh
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21:31 < rangerz> well good news for you who want sensible drug policy
21:31 <@am1n0> what
21:31 < rangerz> obama said this week that he would be willing to look into changing our drug policy (probably legalization of medical marijuana)
21:32 <@Sheath> dont get your hopes up
21:32 <@Sheath> as if he would make that much 'change'
21:32 <@am1n0> nah
21:32 <@Sheath> i will believe it when i see it
21:32 <@am1n0> aint shit is gonna happen to this country
21:32 < rangerz> i'd see him being ok with medical marijuana
21:33 <@am1n0> because he's black?
21:33 < rangerz> b/c he said that he was for it in the pre-2008 interviews
21:33 <@Sheath> but will states all have to pass their own laws
21:33 < rangerz> yes
21:33 <@Bahhumbug> He's already flipped on the issue once; the only reason he's bringing it up again is because it's a way to get votes.  Again.
21:33 <@Sheath> so it means nothing
21:33 < rangerz> LOL
21:33 <@Sheath> im still voting for ron paul;
21:33 <@Sheath> fuck it
21:33 < rangerz> no
21:33 < rangerz> that is a wasted vote
21:33 < rangerz> in a dualogy
21:33 <@Bahhumbug> All votes are wasted.
21:34 < rangerz> i have enough exp. in politics to know that isn't true
21:34 <@Sheath> oh ok what phd did you get
21:34 <@Bahhumbug> Did we do away with the electoral college when I wasn't looking?
21:34 < rangerz> i've been an head elections official actually
21:35 < rangerz> the problem is that well-educated people like in this room who have apathy about our political system
21:35 < rangerz> that and money in politics... but that is a personal opinion
21:35 <@am1n0> why wouldnt someone who is well-educated have apathy about our political system
21:36 <@Evilpig> it's called hope
21:36 <@Evilpig> and for some it's the onlything that is left
21:36 <@am1n0> hope is pointless if it wont be realized
21:36 <@am1n0> some part of you knows it won't, either
21:36 <@am1n0> (not you specifically; one)
21:36 <@Sheath> am1n0 is change we can believe in
21:37 <@am1n0> changa we can believe in
21:37 <@Evilpig> I ahve to hope there is some tiny grain of truth out there in one of the candidates that they actually will try to change the system for the better or else apathy will win and we might as well start eating each other
21:37 <@Bahhumbug> Pass the ketchup, please?
21:37  * Evilpig pours bbq sauce on Sheath's leg
21:37 <@Sheath> lots of fat on my legs
21:37 <@am1n0> i dont think anything will change with the current political system
21:37 <@Sheath> you might wanna eat someone more meaty
21:37 <@Bahhumbug> bacon
21:37 <@am1n0> lipo it out and make soap sheath
21:37 <@Sheath> like am1n0
21:38 <@Evilpig> he's next
21:38 <@am1n0> hot damn
21:38 <@Evilpig> and everyone knows the fat is where the flavor is
21:38 <@am1n0> true
21:39 <@Evilpig> I'm dead serious that I wish we could adopt a system of government run more like our jury system.  you get the call, your time is up to do your part in governing the country
21:39 <@am1n0> yeah
21:40 <@am1n0> would be closer to an actual democracy to what we have today
21:40 <@Evilpig> but fuck... our populous is so fucking stupid now that we'd implode.  if we had that type of system though, people would have to take an interest in what is going on and re-educate themselves again
21:40 <@Bahhumbug> hahaha
21:40 <@am1n0> see that last part
21:40 <@Bahhumbug> No.  They'd remain stupid.
21:40 <@am1n0> is what i have a realistic issue with
21:40 <@Evilpig> I tune out the news at this point because it pisses me off.
21:40 <@am1n0> we just need to get rid of tvs
21:41 <@am1n0> and let the  problem solve itself
21:41  * Evilpig gags am1n0 and shoves him in the closet
21:41 <@Evilpig> get away from my happy place you fuck
21:41 <@am1n0> lol
21:41  * Evilpig hugs the tv.  
21:41 <@Evilpig> it's okay.  he didn't mean you
21:41 <@am1n0> tv just epitomizes american "culture"
21:41 <@am1n0> sit down
21:41 <@am1n0> stare at the box
21:42 <@am1n0> get ads spoonfed into your brain
21:42 <@am1n0> dont interact
21:42 < rangerz> and you say that like it is  bad thing
21:42 <@am1n0> let others make decisions for you
21:42 <@am1n0> it's disgusting
21:42 < rangerz> didn't you hear bush... don't do anything for the war, just go shop
21:42 <@Bahhumbug> We have a culture?
21:42 <@am1n0> that's why it's in quotes :P
22:27 <@Evilpig> your mom has a culture.  it came back negative.
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23:09 <@Bahhumbug> Evilpig: You're an Eureka fan, right?  Season 5 started tonight; I almost missed it.
23:10 <@brimstone> whaaaaaaat!?
23:11 <@brimstone> yay dvr!
23:17 <@Evilpig> yup it did indeed
23:17 <@Evilpig> want spoilers?
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23:17 <@Evilpig> oh and it's in that place where I put things if you're in the know.  *wink* *wink*
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23:39 < rangerz> http://ns223506.ovh.net/rozne/024d5d70f11b8fd76f02a5de6355bcf3/wallpaper-1857568.png
23:39 < rangerz> http://ns223506.ovh.net/rozne/3ccceea288de3f52312fda78032a29ca/wallpaper-1857562.png
23:39 < rangerz> someone with too much time
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23:46 <@Dagmar> SARAH?
23:46 <@Dagmar> ROFL
23:49 <@Evilpig> yeah.  haha
23:49 <@Evilpig> sarah and andy are always just plain creepy
23:53 <@Dagmar> Well, they were pervy before
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