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00:11 <@Bahhumbug> rangerz: from a brief view it looks like crisp and ... brief, oddly enough.
00:12 < rangerz> huh?
00:13 < rangerz> ohh the editor
00:14 < rangerz> yeah i saw it recommended from a guy i know, real artsy/hipster type
00:22 < rangerz> but he works for a fairly good web design company, etc
00:24 <@Bahhumbug> crisp was an editor that came out in the mid 80s; full screen in a console session including sysvr3 / xenix / coherent consoles that had the ability to use condensed fonts.
00:25 <@Bahhumbug> Very much ahead of its time.  Originally shareware, then went full commercial.  I did the port to Coherent in the early 90s.
00:26 <@Bahhumbug> I forget the relationship between it and brief, crisp might have been rebranded as brief or shared developer manpower or something but there was a striking resemblance between the two packages.
00:26 <@Bahhumbug> crisp was the first editor I know of that did syntax-specific highlighting and coloring.
00:26 < ZombieChicken> crisp is still going it looks like. Also looks like it came after brief
00:27 <@Bahhumbug> that may well be.
00:27 <@Bahhumbug> their move to full commercial pissed me off quite a bit back then and I stopped caring about it.
00:27 <@Bahhumbug> As far as timeline, too many drugs so I'll take your word on it :)
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00:29 < ZombieChicken> doesn't look like anything vim/emacs couldn't replace, though
00:29 <@Bahhumbug> Now, perhaps.  Back then nothing touched it.
00:30 < ZombieChicken> their screenshots are cluttered
00:32 < ZombieChicken> heheh. Workstation licenses for crisp run 275 per station
00:38 <@NotLarry> Dagmar: you still up?
00:43 <@Dagmar> Perhaps.
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05:26 <@Evilpig> decent deal except forthe 8gb ram max
05:26 <@Evilpig> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2162664&sku=B69-0537&cm_re=Homepage-_-Spot%2007-_-CatId_31_B69-0537
05:59 <@Dagmar> Their description is hilarious
06:18 < rangerz> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul4CZrnEFxU NSFW
06:19 < rangerz> though it is on youtube, so i assume it isn't 'too' bad
06:20 < rangerz> though the F word is said
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07:53 <@NotLarry> Dagmar: you going in today?
08:13 <@Dagmar> Yes
08:14 <@Dagmar> I erred last night but it wasn't THAT big of a mistake.
08:14 <@Dagmar> I'm going to have to email a certain girl in PR and make sure she doesn't have a problem with me dropping a file into her websites
08:25 <@NotLarry> Ok, I want to mv my kids live ubuntu server to a different disk, suggestions?
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08:26 <@NotLarry> and damn it Dagmar, now I can't shell to that box again.
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10:20 < phaile> new ubuntu looks like a phone.
10:20 < phaile> out of the box
10:21 < phaile> only 343 updates.
10:24 <@brimstone> 12.04?
10:24 <@brimstone> or 11.10?
10:25 <@timoguin> i still haven't used anything past 10.04
10:25 < phaile> 11.10
10:26 < phaile> is there a newer still one?
10:26 < phaile> it's taken me a bit to get around to messing with it.
10:29 <@brimstone> 12.04 comes out next month
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11:00 <@benthemeek> any of you guys in the health related IT fields (espeacilly you vanderbuilt ones) have any recommendations for email encryption services?
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11:23 <@Dagmar> Evolution.
11:23 <@Dagmar> Otherwise, you're pretty much buying Outlook and hoping you can hire or train someone into managing it's certificate system.
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11:32 <@benthemeek> well in hippa enviroments there is quite the little market that has sprang up in the realm of secur emessageing
11:32 <@benthemeek> they weight each outgoing email message with key words. When enough is found the encrypt it and send it to the outside user
11:32 <@benthemeek> who then has to decrypt thorugh varios means
11:42 <@Dagmar> Or, they could be less stupid about it and just fucking encrypt everything being sent to certain people.
11:43 <@Dagmar> THat there's people lazy, stupid, and gulllible enough to buy into complex soluitons like that is just a matter of outlook and AD certificates being a pain in the ass that people will buy snake oil to avoid it
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12:34 < rangerz> so i don't know if i'll make J&J's
12:34 < rangerz> with the weather going to be turning to what it is
12:45 <@Evilpig> rangerz: that's cool.  my interview was canceled for today for the same reason
12:45 <@Evilpig> COWARDS!!
12:54 <@Dagmar> Rangerz: You have to travel LESS THAN A MILE
12:55 <@Dagmar> JJ's is on the edge of the damn campus
13:12 <@Evilpig> he isn't on campus
13:12 < rangerz> screw that
13:13 < rangerz> i'm at home in bed
13:13 <@Evilpig> I should be asleep.  damnit.
13:13 <@Evilpig> guess I should get up and fix something to eat
13:20 <@Dagmar> Holy... fuck
13:21 <@Dagmar> I have been looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetsuo:_The_Bullet_Man on Youtube htinking it was a roundeyed Turnervisioned version of Tetsuo: Iron Man
13:21 <@Dagmar> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetsuo:_The_Iron_Man
13:21 <@Dagmar> That fucker made a SEQUEL to that deranged thing
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13:21 <@Dagmar> Oh my jesus crapcrackers
13:22 <@Corydon76-work> Jesus!  The temperature is up to 81F in Nashville, and we are _not_ under threat of storms.
13:22 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-work: Never fear, the Hate Tornadoes are on their way
13:23 <@Corydon76-work> I'm looking at the radar, and while there are smatterings of rain across the region, there's not storms heading our way
13:23 <@Dagmar> Look down near Tupelo, MS.
13:23 <@Dagmar> It's busily forming up.
13:24 <@Corydon76-work> Prevailing winds are east, though
13:24 <@Evilpig> I just saw a tweet a minute ago about nashville is about to get a tornado watch til 9pm
13:24 <@Corydon76-work> Those near Tupelo are heading towards Huntsville
13:24 <@Dagmar> Just be patient
13:25 <@Dagmar> We'll probably be fleeing the 2600 meeting
13:25 <@Corydon76-work> This morning, it said we were under a watch until 10pm, so 9pm is better
13:26 <@Corydon76-work> in other news, the principal of Haywood just got canned
13:26 <@Dagmar> I'm really loving being in this office and hearing the ceiling creak as the *wind* shoves hte building around
13:27 <@Evilpig> you can always take your laptop and head down to the cave
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13:28 <@Dagmar> Adys: It probably means something positively pornographic in Volapuk
13:29 <@Corydon76-work> http://unicornbooty.com/blog/2012/03/02/principal-who-condemned-gay-students-to-hell-resigns-going-to-hell/
13:42 <@Evilpig> http://torrentfreak.com/google-facebook-and-8000-other-sites-accidentally-dns-blocked-120302/
13:42 <@Evilpig> that there should be cited to anyone that tries to defend sopa/pipa or the like
13:43 <@Evilpig> all it would take is a single moron to block access to legitimate sites 
13:44 <@Catonic> Or the RIAA... "Oops, we goofed. Sorry we took the internets down."
13:45 <@Catonic> For instance, levying a charge of piracy against someone who is clearly using a sample of music under fair use...
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13:55 <@Dagmar> ...and my personal favorite, a company collecting performance rights from people who post videos to YouTube.
13:55 <@Dagmar> ...for anything with birdsong in it.
13:55 <@Dagmar> I'm tempted to troll them, actually.
13:56 <@Dagmar> Do a nice video talking about sodomizing fire hydrants and rubbing semen on public escalator handles, and flat out say that the message was brought to you by the advertisers below.
13:56 <@Dagmar> I think they might not continue chuckling and foisting ads on other people's content.
14:00 <@Bahhumbug> damn you.  I just blew snot out my nose.
14:06 <@Dagmar> I just need to print out a life-sized trollface mask
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14:14 <@Catonic> That would be patently awesome.
14:15 <@Catonic> OTOH, knowing my luck, I'd wind up getting thrown in jail or fired because I got internet famous
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15:04 <@Dagmar> This is starting to look ugly
15:06 <@sdodson> Dagmar: uh-oh, what happened?
15:11 <@Dagmar> Look at the radar
15:11 <@Dagmar> TORNADOES INCOMING
15:11 <@Dagmar> This doesn't show the red boxes but it's still nifty http://weatherspark.com/#!dashboard;a=USA/TN/Nashville
15:14 <@sdodson> Fire ze missiles!
15:15 < rangerz> i hope i get my new bike back from the bike shop i took it to to get it road-safety-checked
15:15 < rangerz> thought i'd go full scooter, but then i realized i wasn't cool enough for that
15:16 < rangerz> tomorrow should be a nice chilly day to try it out
15:26 <@Dagmar> I saw one on Craigslist for like $400 yesterday
15:26 <@Dagmar> It was a 50cc jobbie, but at that price... *shrug*
15:27 <@Dagmar> I figured I'd paste it in here in case someone wanted to buy it and paint it up like a Mario Bros turtle or osmething
15:27 < rangerz> well the bike was  200$ at wal mart
15:27 <@Dagmar> Wait... A _bicycle_?
15:27 <@Dagmar> You bought a $200 bicycle at Wal-Mart and then took it to a professional to have it safety checked...
15:27 < rangerz> and 35$ basic tear down and rebuild.... so i don't have to deal with wallyworld employees building it
15:27 < rangerz> yes
15:28 <@Dagmar> I'd just assume anything at Wal-Mart was kinda sketchy and ride accordingly
15:28 < rangerz> b/c the bike itself isn't a bad bike, it is well worth the 200
15:28 <@Dagmar> Lord knows their skateboards are a menace
15:28 < rangerz> i did my research before buying
15:29 <@Dagmar> Fair 'nuff
15:30 < rangerz> plus the professional tightening of the spokes, alignment of the tires, brake adjustments, etc is what really makes a good bike good
15:32 <@Dagmar> I used to just do all that myself
15:32 < rangerz> http://genbikes.com/mountain/Genesis_Saber.php
15:33 < rangerz> well... _every_ single thing on the bike was wrong
15:33 < rangerz> so it would have taken me days to do it properly
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15:37 < rangerz> so for 35$ my weekend spent riding the bike instead of fixing it... well worth it for me
15:38 < rangerz> plus i kinda want it both for cheap way to get around when i feel like it, but good exercise too
15:45 <@Corydon76-work> Evilpig: ping
15:45 <@Corydon76-work> Cool Springs Mall just went on lockdown, and the interstates are reportedly backed up.  Might it be advisable to cancel the 2600 meeting in Nashville tonight?
15:47 < rangerz> first one i was actually going to make it to...
15:47 < rangerz> i'm up for next week if you want to postpone it
15:48 < rangerz> news is saying to stay off the roads even
15:48 <@Corydon76-work> Dagmar already posted as much to the list
15:49 <@Dagmar> well, I didn't tell people to not come, but I did say in a roundabout way that it would be dangerous
15:49 <@Corydon76-work> We may just come back on April 6th.  I'm not aware of anything life-changing that means we need to be there
15:49 <@Dagmar> We are about 30 minutes away from some epic storm ass pounding
15:49 <@Corydon76-work> If people want to show up, that's fine
15:49 <@Sheath> mmm ass pounding
15:49 <@Corydon76-work> It's also possible that it'll blow over by then
15:50 <@Dagmar> I'm sort of trying to guess whether or not I've missed my window of opportunity to get home before this shit lands
15:50 <@Corydon76-work> but I'm in Antioch, and with the roads the way they are, I think it's in my best interest to stay home
15:50 <@Dagmar> The shit is just lining up to come rampaging down the length of I-40W
15:50 <@Corydon76-work> I do need to get out later and pick up a supply of rabbit pellets.  We're out, and the critters are hungry
15:50 <@Dagmar> Yeah pokay fuck this I'm out
15:51 <@Dagmar> I'm going to be pushing my luck getting home
15:51 <@Dagmar> If the shit passes I can always come back into town
15:51 <@Corydon76-work> I suspect your bunker at work is safer than your house anyway
15:51 <@Corydon76-work> It's definitely safer than my house
16:09 <@Bahhumbug> Corydon76-work: you've got a hook and what looks to be simply horrible crap heading towards Antioch now.
16:09 <@Corydon76-work> I see that now
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16:20 <@Corydon76-work> Hook echo is over Smith Springs Rd now
16:21 <@Bahhumbug> Dagmar: weatherspark is awesome - thanks for the link.
16:26 <@benthemeek> EvilPig: You around?
16:38 <@Evilpig> yar
16:40 <@Evilpig> i'll probably head up there anyhow.  i'm mostly stupid like that but yeah just plan on next week
16:41 <@benthemeek> well even if we aren't having it
16:41 <@benthemeek> I was wondering if you were uip for doing something
16:41 <@benthemeek> I wouldn't mind seeing safe house
16:41 <@benthemeek> have you seen it yet?
16:41 <@Corydon76-work> Looks like it's blown over by now
16:41 <@Evilpig> I haven't.  i'm up for whatever.  I definitely don't wanna sit home all night
16:42 <@benthemeek> I will bring the kirby and we could play that or something
16:42 <@Corydon76-work> I'm probably going to meet some people at JJ's yet tonight
16:42 <@benthemeek> Im about to leave I think
16:43 <@Evilpig> i'm jumping in the shower here in a few and heading that direction
16:43 <@benthemeek> alright
16:43 <@benthemeek> see you guys there
16:43 <@Evilpig> need to go out and check the truck anyhow and see if I took any dmg
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16:43 <@Corydon76-work> Channel 4 is reporting egg-sized hail in Mt Juliet
16:44 <@Evilpig> we had dime size here
16:45 <@Corydon76-work> Kingston Springs had 4 inches of hail on the ground
16:45 <@Dagmar> Quarter-sized hail was falling at the office
16:45 <@Dagmar> I took my opportunity and GTFO after the first batch
16:46 <@Corydon76-work> Touchdown confirmed in west Dickson county and near Carthage
16:47  * oddball is now safely at JJ's
16:47 < rangerz1> an entire town in indiana got levelled
16:47 < rangerz1> only a 1900 person town, but still
16:47 <@oddball> running into hail storms while doing 70 on the interstate is "entertaining."
16:48 <@oddball> The lady at the DMV in Franklin announced that the "fun" was about to begin as I was walking out the door.
16:48 <@Dagmar> lol
16:49 <@Dagmar> Luckily you were south of the main mess
16:49 <@oddball> (about the time I called Dagmar a pansy for telling people to be smart and safe on the mailing list)
16:49 <@Dagmar> i'm going to be evaluating conditions until about 1730
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16:55 <@Bahhumbug> "only" a 1900 person town?  it's gone off the face of the planet from all reports I've heard.
16:56 <@oddball> Yep.  The official statement was "it's essential been wiped off the map."
17:01 <@Evilpig> headed your direction shortly oddball
17:03 <@Dagmar> The next few cells are going to be *way* less crazy because of the temperature drop
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17:15 < rangerz1> 180 to 200 mph winds had to have happened
17:15 < rangerz1> b/c asphalt roads were literally picked up and tossed
17:15 <@Dagmar> I wouldn't be suprised
17:15 <@Dagmar> I think the really shitty stuff for Nashville has passed
17:15 < rangerz1> 2 towns in IN got wiped off the map
17:16 < rangerz1> and indianapolis is one of them... (now that would be some story)
17:16 < rangerz1> lol
17:17 < rangerz1> https://lcdclass.com/
17:17 < rangerz1> so it looks like people who bought LCDs could be part of a class action lawsuit
17:17 <@Dagmar> Yeah.  Price fixing was going on
17:18 < rangerz1> ohh but it is only up to 2006
17:19 < rangerz1> nvm, not even worth it b/c i doubt i'd have any records for that
17:26 <@Dagmar> At best you could hope to get like $8-$10 anywya
17:32 <@Evilpig> I'd be in on that suit with my 28" screens.  but I didn't pay for them in the first place
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17:39 <@jb7od> fucking tree fell and jacked up the neighbors fence
17:39 <@jb7od> hopefully he'll let me fix it and not be a ballbag.
17:43 <@Dagmar> This was from Bellvue Mall earlier http://tinyurl.com/7hkpmrc
17:44 <@rattle> Holy shit
17:45 <@Dagmar> Yeah
17:45 <@Dagmar> I'mma beat some ass if I hear people trying to say we're not fucking up the weather systems.
17:46 <@Dagmar> Fucking tornadoes in January and we are now off to a great start for a hellish spring
17:46 <@rattle> Dude, global warming is a myth and all women who use birth control are sluts.  Give my PAC money.
17:48 <@Dagmar> I hope that woman sues the wondershit out that fat fuck
17:49 <@Dagmar> He definitely crossed the line there.
18:00 <@Dagmar> I'm havin' a quick sammich before I roll out
18:28 <@Evilpig> rangerz1: just for the record.  you're a pussy.  ;)
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18:59 < rangerz1> nah, i'm actually being productive
19:05 <@Corydon76-ipad> rangerz1: we actually made it to JJs, small group that we are
19:09 < rangerz1> my mom called worried, apparently a tornado touched down near vandy
19:14 <@Corydon76-ipad> ah... Nashville is completely clear now
19:14 <@Corydon76-ipad> rained a little on the way here, but that was it
19:15 < rangerz1> i'm actually brushing up on my advanced c++ stuff, might end up making my own set of projects geared towards developers
19:17 <@Corydon76-ipad> think we're headed to Chuy's, if you want to meet us there
19:19 < rangerz1> nah, i'll just try and make it next time
19:19 <@Corydon76-ipad> okay
19:19 < rangerz1> have fun though
19:19 <@Corydon76-ipad> ttyl, then
19:19 < rangerz1> find someone for Evilpig, i'm tired of him calling me in the middle of the night crying about how he's single
19:19 <@Corydon76-ipad> lol
19:19 < rangerz1> lol
19:20 <@Corydon76-ipad> okcupid, maybe
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20:22 < rangerz1> so anyone a c++ guru?
20:22 -!- rangerz1 is now known as RangerZ
20:23  * Dagmar points at Corydon
21:48 <@Corydon76-work> Just C, not C++
22:08 <@Dagmar> There's a meaningful difference?
22:08 < RangerZ> yeah
22:09 < RangerZ> my questions were about smart pointer and stl container nuances, so c doesn't even pretend to have those
22:09 <@Dagmar> Ah okay
23:58 <@Evilpig> Just gave benthemeek some movies to watch.  Poor guy has never seen Fargo.
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