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00:44 <@Catonic> Wow, when did brimstone get a funny chip implanted?
00:44 <@Catonic> From 4PM until 11:20, chan #hilarity.
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01:04 <@Evilpig> whoa.  so the raspberry pi's started sales?
01:04 <@Evilpig> not the pre-orders but actual sales
01:09 <@Dagmar> Yes.
01:09 <@Dagmar> They even had to rework how they're doing it
01:10 <@Dagmar> Companies wanted distributorships
01:10 <@Dagmar> They went straight to having a pipeline
01:10 <@Dagmar> heh
01:10 <@Dagmar> As cheap as they are I'm considering buying one
01:10 <@Evilpig> I'm gonna wait for tht 512MB ver to come out
01:11 <@Evilpig> but I'd really like to get my hands on a few
01:11 <@Dagmar> It'll take a little longer this way, but then we won't have to wait until the next batch straightaway
01:13 <@Dagmar> Two ethernet dongles and you can turn the thing into a VPN appliance.
01:13 <@Evilpig> up.
01:13 <@Evilpig> yup
01:14 <@Evilpig> considering my firewall is already running fedora.  just two usb nics, copy over my script.  done
01:31 <@Evilpig> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/consumer-preview
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03:41 <@Evilpig> any java speakers awake?
04:10 < rangerz> you mean can code java
04:10 < rangerz> I can
04:14 < rangerz> b/c i think the island of java has it's (yes i'm using possessive, screw grammar nazis I think this should be right) own language.... but w/e, lol
05:20 <@Evilpig> I figured it out kinda
05:20 <@Evilpig> was messing with a jquery plugin and finally got it straight.  not opimally but working all the same
05:59 < eryc> that's javascript
05:59 < eryc> rangerz: it's its
06:12 < rangerz> i know it is suppose to be
06:12 < rangerz> but i disagree
06:13 < rangerz> Latin grammer on a germanic language which adopted ~1/5 of it's words from French and other random romance languages
06:13 < rangerz> and sadly it is still one of the best languages for speaker oriented discussion
06:18 <@Evilpig> YOU SON OF A WHORE!!  <input type="hidden" name="search" value=""its-hcln"">
06:18 <@Evilpig> anyone see what's funny there?
06:35 < eryc> double quotes
06:35 <@Evilpig> winnar!
06:35 < eryc> woohooo
06:35 <@Evilpig> can't figure out why it is doing that.  worked around it in the mean time by stripping quotes from my search term
06:37 < eryc> rangerz: so what's the logic for "it's" being possessive?
06:37 < eryc> Evilpig: no guesses from me
06:40 < eryc> you know this channel is a lot more interesting without the epic trolling
06:41  * Evilpig rests his dick on eryc's shoulder and pretends it isn't happening
06:41 < eryc> lol
06:42 <@Evilpig> so... how about that weather?  those tornados were freaky right?
06:42 < eryc> i don't think they made it up here to virginia
06:42 < eryc> they were supposed to
07:11 < rangerz> tom's
07:11 <@Evilpig> tom's what?
07:12 < rangerz> tom's _whatever_
07:13 < rangerz> but anyways, i got an assignment due in 2hrs so later
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08:36 <@Dagmar> Damn SDMs
08:37 <@Dagmar> Xoom alarm goes off.  Office Communicator is running, apparently flags me as available
08:37 <@Dagmar> Thirty seconds later, complex technical questions plus automated speech synthesis, and I've gone from blissfully asleep to homocidal in 15 seconds flat
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08:52 < phaile> xchat and tor: we suck to idle with.
08:52 < phaile> if i d/c on tor, i get an error 6 on cycling with no retry.
08:53 < phaile> this charecteristic does not seem to follow virc (ahem) but then that client's not on freenode either.
08:54 <@Bahhumbug> meh, tor.  just use ssl.
08:54 < phaile> i support your 'meh'. i'd never played with it before.
09:08 < phaile> it's a pain in the ass to set up. lol
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09:22 <@Dickie> I run meh on my server at home.
09:25  * Bahhumbug pats Dickie on the head
09:27 <@Dickie> I'd upgrade it, but why fucking bother?
09:28 <@Dickie> Yeah, "meh" jokes don't really get the crowd going. I think I'll just retire those.
09:58 <@brimstone> they're just meh
09:58 <@brimstone> that's the problem
09:58 <@brimstone> he says, 30 minutes later
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15:25 < phaile>  exec echo  "join: ($nick![ident $uhost]: $channel)" | mail $txt <- ugly line that makes bot txt you from the expanded whotf.tcl 2012 version by jb7od
15:29 < phaile> with it, you can get a txt whenever your little buddies j/p/k/q or nickchange so you can un-idle like a BOSS.
15:30 < phaile> BAAAHAHAHA! Email of the day: Subject: There are car keys in the refrigerator on our side.
15:38 <@Dagmar> Anyone recognize the name 'Sean Miku'?
15:39 <@Dagmar> He looks like a social network spammer to me, and he's in the 615.
15:39 <@Dagmar> ...which strikes me as particularly funny because if he's in the 615 he should know better than to try anything like that in my direction.
15:49 < phaile> git em!
15:50 <@brimstone> svn em!
15:50 < phaile> lol i saw something like that comin
15:51 < phaile> wget em!
15:51 < phaile> lol
15:51 <@brimstone> hg em!
15:51 < phaile> rm -rf em!
15:51 < phaile> lol
15:51 < phaile> | /dev/nul em
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16:43 <@Dagmar> Not quite a "fireball special" and a 50cc engine but... http://nashville.craigslist.org/mcy/2878980270.html
16:43 <@Dagmar> $500 and you could probably talk him down to $400 easily and you'd have a street-legal scooter you can ride for chuckles
16:44 <@Dagmar> 50cc doesn't require anything but a helmet, insurance, and a licence... and insurance is fucking cheap
16:44 <@Dagmar> A _car_ driver's licence, mind you.  No tags needed, no M endorsement.
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19:52 <@Evilpig> I feel like a mobster now.  UPS just showed up at the door and handed me a box stuffed with cash
19:53 <@Evilpig> the note inside said "Thanks for help with the forum. Use this as tip money"  It's a bound stack of 100 $1s
20:10 < eryc> heh nice
20:21 <@Dagmar> Stripper snax~!
20:21 <@Dagmar> Speakin' of money... Holy shit Notch gave his dividends to the 25 Mojang employees
20:21 <@Dagmar> Three fucking million dollars.
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20:41 <@Evilpig> dag I was more interested in the fact that the bukkit devs are now mojang employees
20:56 <@Dagmar> Yeah I'm kinda wondering if they were included in that list
20:56 <@Dagmar> If so, I imagine Dinnerbone is too hammered to notice IRC right now
20:56 <@Dagmar> If not, I dont' want to remind him
20:56 <@Dagmar> Heh
20:57 <@Dagmar> 'because if I got hired and two days later was handed a $120,000 bonus, regardless of how long I'd worked on the code before I was hired, I would have to take a moment to get stinking drunk.
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21:24 <@Evilpig> I would assume they would be included if he considered how much work they've done on bukkit
21:25 <@Evilpig> which lets face it it is the groundwork for the full api cause they aren't just gonna scrap everything
21:25 <@Dagmar> I was tempted to message him with awesomeguy.gif earlier, but we're studiously not bothering him
21:26 <@Dagmar> That hiring is a freaking perfect solution
21:26 <@Evilpig> it really is
21:26 <@Dagmar> He couldn't hope to do better than to get guys who have been for months, asking themselves what they need to happen to tie events to everything
21:26 <@Evilpig> it also completely legitmizes the modding community there
21:26 <@Dagmar> ...and which types of events are useful and which aren't
21:27 < rangerz> just like samsung paying the cyanogenmod main dev
21:27 <@Dagmar> I wind up doing a lot of explaining of the whys to the kids in #Minecraft
21:34 <@Bahhumbug> Your password is now 3079
21:34 <@Bahhumbug>  days old.
21:34 <@Bahhumbug> heh
21:35 <@Bahhumbug> (not in error either, I've really not changed it in 8.45 years)
22:00 <@Evilpig> hrmm
23:07 <@Dagmar> Heh.  Something wasn't quite what I thought it was, but it still works
23:07 <@Dagmar> I thought _default was just an empty directory set.  heh
23:11 <@Dagmar> DOh!  *facepalm*  Forgot an important thing
23:11 < rangerz> so Evilpig, tomorrow at 6?
23:11 <@Evilpig> yar
23:12 <@Evilpig> at J&J's
23:12 < rangerz> then what was this about some natty ice, and gamecube at your place at 11?
23:12 <@Evilpig> that was just for you.  ;)
23:12 < rangerz> and a bag full of black didldos
23:13 < rangerz> i would fix the spelling on that... but not going to
23:13 <@Dagmar> fuuuuu
23:13 <@Dagmar> I totally forgot you need to add a new IP address for an SSL vhost
23:13 < rangerz> ohh
23:13 <@Dagmar> That'll be the first time I've ever rolled one back like that
23:13 < rangerz> and Evilpig your link wouldn't work today
23:13 <@Evilpig> yeah cause my vm was off
23:13 < rangerz> ahh ok
23:14 < rangerz> just figured i'd check it out when at work
23:14 < rangerz> so we could try out our sql injection automated software that xiowa is working on
23:14 < rangerz> i mean.....
23:14 < rangerz> LOL
23:15 < rangerz> actually there is a student working on stuff like that, dr. xue is working on a lot of web app security stuff
23:15 <@Dagmar> You know anything about CS265?
23:15 < rangerz> whats the name?
23:15 <@Evilpig> trying to convince these tv repair morons to transfer their shit OFF of GoDaddy.  they just aren't listening to reason
23:16 <@Dagmar> I only remember their vunetids at the moment
23:16 <@Dagmar> It's a mysql/php class
23:16 <@Evilpig> http://www.myedu.com/CS-265-Introduction-to-Database-Management-Systems/course/s/1938538/
23:16 <@Dagmar> We set 'em a VM up and they've strangely not even touched it yet
23:17 < rangerz> well i don't really know many of vandy's undergrad classes
23:17 <@Dagmar> I got a bit excited about it because they requested one and we gave them one because it would be silly if we _couldn't_ do it since it's pretty modest requirements
23:17 <@Dagmar> I mean damn, we're IT for the campus
23:17 <@Dagmar> It only makes sense we _should_ be doing that for them
23:17 < rangerz> though i have taken a basic sql db class myself, and i know the math for how it is based and all that
23:18 <@Dagmar> All the departments like to run their own stuff, with mixed results
23:18 < rangerz> well that is one of those classes that might only touch it at the very end 1/3 or 1/4
23:18 <@Dagmar> I suppose so
23:18 < rangerz> EECS is the exception to that too
23:19 <@Evilpig> silly spammers.  have something misconfigured.
23:19 <@Evilpig> [Thu Mar 01 23:13:51 2012] [error] [client 79.173.108.66] File does not exist: /var/www/spydey44/:8080, referer: http://spydermansforum.com/:8080/spydey/index.php
23:19 < rangerz> i know ISIS's techs are pretty good
23:19 <@Dagmar> I was kinda wondering if they were going to spend time teaching them some rudimentary stuff first
23:19 < rangerz> probably
23:19 < rangerz> i didn't touch a computer for the first quater of my first programming class
23:19 < rangerz> and honestly i think thats better
23:19 < rangerz> that was in HS when we weren't really rushing, but still
23:20 <@Dagmar> I feel a little silly I sort of reimplemented a bulk useradd function for them, but it was needed
23:20 <@Dagmar> I am at least pleased that I had time to code up those routines in perl tho
23:20 < rangerz> to be honest, from the description, they might never touch a server, lo
23:20 < rangerz> lol*
23:20 < rangerz> "logical and physical organization of databases. Data models and query
23:20 < rangerz> languages, with emphasis on the relational model and its semantics.
23:20 < rangerz> Concepts of data independence, security, integrity, concurrency. Prerequisite"
23:20 <@Dagmar> Nah they're going to be doing labs using phpMyAdmin and stuff
23:21 < rangerz> thats good
23:21 < rangerz> probably for the final then
23:21 < rangerz> after all the pen/paper work
23:21 <@Dagmar> Yeah and if there's something I've overlooked, I'd rather hear about it earlier than sooner
23:21 < rangerz> just email the prof
23:21 < rangerz> i highly doubt they would mind you asking if they had everything working the way they wanted
23:21 <@Dagmar> Left to my own devices, my ability to push the limits of that config basically extend to populating a table with a list of playing cards.
23:22 <@Dagmar> I feel it fairly important for future job security that we be able to demonstrate to the campus that we _can_ take the burden of keeping boxes running and updated off their plates
23:23 <@Dagmar> There's just a couple things I want to check out first before I give them the ability to sudo-edit the mysql server config directly
23:24 <@Dagmar> I plan on being able to port parts of this config to everywhere else that I might need to later
23:24 <@Dagmar> ...cuz like, public relations and some other groups... they _need_ a MySQLd they can't accidentally murder and destroy
23:24 < rangerz> i honestly have never gotten into stuff like that sadly
23:24 < rangerz> i always play with theoretical stuff too much
23:25 <@Dagmar> See, I've learned that sometimes it's important to let _other people_ use the computers, too.
23:25 <@Dagmar> They give you money when you do.
23:25 < rangerz> "can i write a script that writes a php/mysql CMS for me based on a SQL schema"
23:25 <@Dagmar> :)
23:25 < rangerz> "can i write my own compiler compiler, and make it fully expandable"
23:25 < rangerz> etc
23:26 <@Dagmar> Not much different from "resolve interlocking dependencies for 642 packages."
23:26 <@Dagmar> "...in bash script."
23:26 < rangerz> you need help
23:26 < rangerz> b/c that is just a graph theory problem
23:26 < rangerz> with a well known solution
23:27 <@Dagmar> I think I would use the phrase "fucking nightmare", personally.
23:27 < rangerz> shitty runtime... but well known...shitty runtime
23:27 < rangerz> lol
23:27 < rangerz> actually....
23:27 <@Dagmar> Yeah I've already thrown away two PoC revisions to slackpkg
23:27 <@Dagmar> ...just because looking at the code made my scalp crawl
23:28 <@Dagmar> I can't imagine what PV would say
23:28 <@Dagmar> Actually, I can imagine it and I don't want to hear it.  heh
23:28 < rangerz> i think once you get it into graph form... you could probably sovlve it in O(n+m).... or something not "too" much off of linear
23:29 <@Dagmar> My personal favorite is "Organize every known method of versioning to a predictable integer format.
23:29 < rangerz> that isn't _that_ hard
23:30 <@Dagmar> Once I'd gotten done tweaking it, it was completely un-fucking-readable
23:30 < rangerz> you just get stupid long integers
23:30 <@Dagmar> ...because I'm the kind of jackass that uses a LOT of ${:} variables
23:30 <@Dagmar> ${hey[nana]//[0-9/} and so on
23:30 < rangerz> yeah.... the compay i worked at stopped using my custom sales "web" app i made for them b/c of that
23:31 < rangerz> their "network admin" script kiddy could't figure out what I had done, so therefore he couldn't hack it
23:31 < rangerz> http://www.sublimetext.com/
23:31 <@Dagmar> Well, this thing turned every version number in Slackware and GNOME into a predicatable 12-digit integer
23:31 < rangerz> anyone used this?
23:32 < rangerz> ohh, you meant package version, i thought you meant git/svn
23:32 < rangerz> etc
23:32 <@Dagmar> ...but as an atomic function it was practically a black box like that
23:33 <@Dagmar> So if anyone came up with an inadvisably exciting thing like 12.0..64, god help you'
23:34 <@Dagmar> 12b.34c.56d.78e was also iffy if even one more type of thing is added
23:34 <@Dagmar> It's what happens when you let regular expressions fester and mutate.
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