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04:27 <@Evilpig> WOW!
04:27 <@Evilpig> A rockslide forced Tennessee to close a 1-mile section of westbound Interstate 40 near the border with North Carolina for at least 2 weeks, forcing drivers to take a 53-mile detour, transportation officials said February 1. The early morning slide included a rock 40-feet long, 40-feet high and 15-feet thick that weighed about 1,500 tons, said a spokesman for the Tennessee Department of Transportation.
04:28 <@Bahhumbug> again?
04:28 <@Bahhumbug> wasn't 40 closed for damned near a year?
04:35 <@Evilpig> yeah
04:35 <@Evilpig> that was my thought too.  then it turned to the size of the rock
04:35 <@Evilpig> 40' x 40' x 15'   WTF?!  that bitch just moved?
04:48 <@Bahhumbug> heh
04:49 <@Bahhumbug> yeah, that'd be a little disconcerting if you were under it :)
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08:49 <@Evilpig> I HATE HATE FUCKING HATE stupid people
08:49 <@Evilpig> http://blueboy.wilpig.org/~wilbur/dev/cancelledflight.pdf
08:52 <@Evilpig> for all the stupidity that comes through here I really lose sight of just how nice it is to deal with the intelligent stupids in here than the truely moronic people outside of here
08:52 <@Evilpig> does that make sense?
08:52 <@Dickie> Why do you hate America?
08:53 <@Bahhumbug> Dickie: +1
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08:55 <@Evilpig> is it wrong to want to set most of america on fire for being stupid?
08:56 <@benthemeek> EvilPig: :)
08:57 <@Evilpig> you see that nonsense in that pdf though?  I mean really.  "okay so what's wrong with telling a story and calling it fact."  that's retarded logic
08:59 <@Dickie> You cited snopes. Everyone knows snopes is a liberal tool used to discredit FOX News.
08:59 <@Dickie> Everyone. Knows.
09:00 <@Dickie> Saying that indicates you are the fringe minority.
09:00 <@Evilpig> I can't believe them.  It has the references there to the facts and they countered it with "well snopes has been wrong before"
09:01 <@Dickie> If they were wrong once, they're probably wrong again. The safest bet is to go with my gut.
09:02 <@Dickie> My wife won't let me yell at my inlaws on Facebook when they post stupid shit like this.
09:02 <@Dickie> So I just remove them, which causes drama anyway.
09:02 <@Evilpig> I've been banned from many a facebook for that
09:03 <@Dickie> "This is false, and easily proven so. What you're doing is wrong, and the reason the rest of the civilized world is laughing at us."
09:03 <@Dickie> Wife: "Don't be mean to my family"
09:04  * benthemeek commiserates
09:04 <@benthemeek> My family has stopped forwarding me stuff all together because I always did a reply all disproving whatever it was and embarassing them
09:05 <@Bahhumbug> Doesn't everyone keep kids under their sink?
09:05 <@Evilpig> that's how I broke my grandparents too
09:05 <@Evilpig> I kept getting anti-obama stuff that was all disproved by snopes from my grandpa
09:08 <@Dickie> Recently, an aunt-in-law used a Carl Sagan quote about being tricked to complain about Democrats
09:08 <@Dickie> I encouraged her politely to look into Sagan's political opinions.
09:09 <@Dickie> Wife still got mad.
09:11 <@Evilpig> OMG they are still posting there and even the link that they posted to say that part of the story was true says it was completely false
09:12 <@Dickie> Just a circle-jerk now.
09:12 <@Dickie> Abandon that community.
09:12 <@benthemeek> You think it is a problem mostly confined to WASP bible thumpers
09:13 <@benthemeek> but it isn't. In the very liberal church I go to a couple of my friends who are fellow athiests/agnostics have done the same thing in reverse to right-wing candidates
09:13 <@benthemeek> People are just pone to confirmation bias
09:14 <@Dickie> I think calling it confirmation bias is very kind.
09:14 <@benthemeek> Now granted I can join right in when the facts are there, but I have serious problem with the lack intellectual honesty of the herd
09:17 <@benthemeek> EvilPig: I haven't been able to make myself bukkit's bitch again, so on my test server while I got dynmap going I never broguht it live
09:18 <@benthemeek> someday maybe. We off load the web to a webserver (rather than the same box and it can't handle the dynmap load apparently
09:19 <@Evilpig> the initial dynmap build is a hoss
09:19 <@Evilpig> after that it is pretty minor
09:20 <@benthemeek> We always load the weekly builds too and that doesn't play nice with bukkit
09:20 <@Evilpig> Dickie: i'm not a part of that community. I was contracted in to fix some technical issues for them and they seemed like some okay folks.  obviously there are some crazy closed minded folks in there.
09:20 <@benthemeek> when updates start coming fewer we might go for bukkit again
09:20 <@Evilpig> I look at this server as a more stable long term setup
09:20 <@Bahhumbug> there is crazy everywhere.
09:20 <@Evilpig> we won't have the newest stuff but it'll be there in the dark
09:21 <@Dickie> Bahhumbug: Right. That's why I never leave my house.
09:21 <@Evilpig> I just ended that thread.  I should have locked it after my first post.
09:22 <@Bahhumbug> Dickie: heh
09:22 <@Evilpig> the last thing that guy said was that .  isn't it odd that all these people were scattered all over the plane.  with all their money they could have sat together.  something smells
09:22 <@Dickie> He's a thinker.
09:22 <@Evilpig> not a single report says where they were sitting except for the fake story
09:22 <@benthemeek> EvilPig: You have some distinct advantages there :) The running of our server isn't comepltly up to me so I don't push the issue when they want to try the latest beta
09:23 <@Evilpig> the real report there says the translator was sitting several rows away from one of them.  the guy that was on the phone that didn't understand english
09:23 <@Evilpig> so here is how I ended it
09:23 <@Evilpig> Truth.  A flight was delayed.
09:23 <@Evilpig> Fiction.  Everything else.
09:23 <@Evilpig> It says nothing of where the passengers were sitting.  It makes no mention of the other people except for they didn't speak english and boarded the plane with a translator.  Read the facts.  Be informed not an alarmist.
09:23 <@Evilpig> The final word and quote from the News-ertainment of NBC "AirTran says it has joined with the FAA in investigating what happened.  No charges have been filed and nobody was detained."
09:23 <@Evilpig> I like to think myself an intelligent person and have a broad view of the world in which we live.  I look at everything for the facts and try not to put a personal bias on it.  That's all I am saying and the last i'll say on this.  Y'all are some bright folks but wow.  Bed time for me.
09:24 <@benthemeek> +1
09:24 <@Dickie> When the terrorists come, they'll be the ones that are prepared while you have your pants down.
09:24 <@Evilpig> bring it on
09:24 <@benthemeek> diplomatic, without being too insulting
09:24 <@Dickie> Probably reading the New York Times and sippin' your Starbucks Crappachino
09:24 <@Bahhumbug> You misspelled "closed-mind ignorant redneck idiots" I think.
09:24 <@Evilpig> the next time they attack it will be someplace we don't expect anyway.
09:25 <@Evilpig> that is the hallmark of every major incident.  we don't see it coming because nobody thought of it.  well except for crazies
09:26 <@Bahhumbug> Dagmar: more reason to hate php - http://www.reddit.com/tb/p7jp7
09:26 <@Bahhumbug> and on that depressing note (depressing because I'm vulnerable more places than I care to think of at the moment) I'm going to catch a few hours of sleep.  g'note
09:26 <@Bahhumbug> g'nite too
09:28 <@Evilpig> night
09:28 <@Dickie> G'NIGHT LOVE YOU
09:28 <@Dickie> (I hope he saw)
09:34 <@Evilpig> http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/faa-to-investigate-cell-202143.html
09:34 <@Evilpig> "Just one flight attendant snowed everyone into believing she had an irate passenger," Deveikis said.
09:34 <@Evilpig> it wasn't even a phone it was a camera and the dude was looking at pictures.  oh well.  pig go sleepy now
09:35 <@Evilpig> meeting tomorrow night
10:12 <@Dagmar> Holy crap
10:12 <@Dagmar> So.... ps -ef | grep mysql | wc -l returns *25*
10:13 <@Dagmar> I thought it was spinning out of control or _spreading_
10:13 <@Dagmar> No, it just turns out these people apparently compiled it without any sort of threads support
10:13 <@Dagmar> o.o
10:18 <@Dagmar> Evilpig, for when he wakes up... You overlook that the TSA and Airtran both have a vested interest in spinning a tale of pure fiction because it looks like the flight attendant was too stupid to know the difference between a camera and a cell phone, and too bigoted to realize that perhaps not everyone speaks fuckin' english
10:18 <@Dagmar> The only "safety" reason I can see for delaying hte plane is that they had an irate and irrational stewardess on board.
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12:32 < dasunt> Anyone know about private digital certificates?
12:33 < dasunt> Need to obtain one for a customer submitting paperwork to the FDA.
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12:40 <@Dagmar> Might wanna ask the FDA about that actually
12:50  * Dagmar waits for Capitol to really fuck up
12:50 <@Dagmar> This ReDigi lawsuit is going to wind up doing it
12:52 < rangerz> dasunt: you mean a private SSL cert? I'd assume they want you to make a ssl cert then sign your submission, that way it is proven that no one has altered your submission
12:52 < rangerz> IMHO that sounds like a really good policy (if true)
12:53 <@dasunt> Yep, think I figured it out.
12:53 <@dasunt> My only issue that I was having is the five bazillion different options for digital certificates they were selling at the vendors.
12:55 <@dasunt> Gawd, I dunno why, but both customers and clients are being annoying as hell this week.
12:56 <@dasunt> I had one lady come in with a brand new dell laptop.  Win7.  Laptop did some odd things under IE9.  So I told her she could use firefox (no), we could charge her to reload the laptop, or she could exchange it where she bought it.  She freaked out about it.
12:57 <@dasunt> "But it's a brand new laptop!  Why does it need to be reloaded?"
12:58 <@dasunt> "Well you could use firefox..."  *looks at me as if I just suggested sacrificing babies in pyres in order to make her laptop work*
12:59  * dasunt sighs, and goes back to (I kid you not) dos batch scripting.
13:02 <@benthemeek> Dos scripting eh?
13:02 <@benthemeek> I did that some the other day
13:03 <@benthemeek> I was throughly annoyed my ftp script won't work under 7 but works under xp just fine
13:03 <@dasunt> I have a similar problem.
13:03 <@dasunt> %windir% isn't valid in XP for some reason for me.
13:04 <@benthemeek> Where is my telnet and where is my ftp microsoft!
13:04 <@benthemeek> Maybe they dome with the professional version or something
13:04 <@benthemeek> come*
13:05 <@oddball> Wait... they took telnet out of win7?
13:05 <@benthemeek> yep
13:05 <@benthemeek> I use putty usually anyway
13:06 <@benthemeek> I think there is probaly a way to add it, it just isn't installed by default
13:06 <@oddball> Well, I use ssh if at all possible, which means putty on windows.
13:06  * oddball checks the machine he's on
13:06 <@benthemeek> I do as well, but telneting to an open port to see if its open is sometimes a handy troubleshooting step
13:06 <@oddball> Telnet is on win7 Enterprise.
13:07 <@benthemeek> its not on this windows 7 pro machine
13:07 <@oddball> random
13:07 <@benthemeek> 'telnet' is not recognized as an internal or external command :(
13:08 <@benthemeek> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc771275(WS.10).aspx "Telnet Client is not installed by default on Windows 7, Windows Server 2008 R2, Windows Vista, or Windows Server 2008."
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13:09 <@oddball> Ah, guess they went ahead and loaded it on my work machine.
13:09 <@Dagmar> USE PUTTY DAMNIT.
13:10 <@benthemeek> I use the command line a lot dagmar
13:10 <@benthemeek> so yes I do use putty now, but it is still an inconvienence
13:10 <@benthemeek> of course there is porbaly some putty cli inerface I could switch to
13:11 <@benthemeek> but to me, taking away telnet is like removing ping
13:11 <@benthemeek> or maybe like removing tracert rather than ping, they are still useful tools
13:11  * benthemeek gets off soap box now
13:12 <@oddball> I want to know why folks want to use telnet instead of ssh... don't they like security?
13:14 < scribbles> damn encryption! who needs it? whats a packet sniffer?
13:14 <@benthemeek> I always use ssh to connect to a shell
13:14 <@benthemeek> but as an example: telnet printer-IP 9100
13:14 <@benthemeek> type a few lines press enter
13:15 <@benthemeek> and you can test to see if the printer is working
13:15 <@oddball> I just finished bitching at one of my new coworkers that our software requires us to remotely connect via telnet to configure shit.  Why would you cleartext admin stuff?
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14:27 <@Dagmar> Should we wish him a "Happy Gay Birthday"?
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15:35 <@Dagmar> Got a "PictureMail" from a female friend with no picture
15:35 <@Dagmar> "Evil" kicked in just a bit too late.
15:36 <@Dagmar> The moment I sent back a reply explaining there was mysteriously no picture, the evil part of my brain coughed up the idea that what I should be sending was "Does your husband know you're sending pictures like that to people?"
15:36 <@Dagmar> ...cuz she'd sent this to about 30 people at once.
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16:58 <@aestetix> so this is what one of my friends just did
16:58 <@aestetix> http://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/p8cyg/stood_naked_at_california_montgomery_to_protest/
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18:08 < sasquatc4_> sweet, all of the daz software is free for feb
18:08 < sasquatc4_> which means bryce3d is free, <3 bryce
18:08 <@Bahhumbug> seriosuly?
18:08 <@Bahhumbug> isn't bryce stupidly expensive?
18:08 < sasquatc4_> its like 900$ worth of software for free
18:09 < sasquatc4_> its bryce+daz studio+hexagon
18:09 <@Bahhumbug> that's actually quite interesting.  not that I do any 3d stuff, but still good to know.
18:09 < sasquatc4_> there site is pretty slow right now cause of the offer, but you can still get in and order fine, just takes a bit
18:09 < sasquatc4_> *their
18:09 <@Bahhumbug> thanks for the info
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20:19 <@sasquatc4> wow, actually theres alot more for free than just those, its ~2300$ worth of their stuff
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20:31 <@Dagmar> aestetix: If he wasn't on the clock at the time and he's not in a customer-facing role he has nothing to worry about
20:31 <@Dagmar> Unless of course he was naked for everything except a work badge.  Heh
20:32 <@Dagmar> Naked people in SF is practically traditional
20:36 <@Dagmar> Pretty damn funny that the man at ground zero *wasn't* the first one to post to Reddit about it
21:06 <@Evilpig> https://www.facebook.com/events/253109858092810/  <-- this is a very amusing idea.    Where can we get a bunch of banana costumes?
21:12 <@Dagmar> Hmm... only a 20% chance of rain tomorrow
21:17 <@Evilpig> one of these damned scan jobs has over 400pages of printouts
21:22 <@Evilpig> %@#! thing is eating paper 
21:40 <@Dagmar> Sweet.  Now that Google+ is back I can take care of that little ware thing
21:41 <@Dagmar> ...because I can't let a straight line like this go untended: https://plus.google.com/u/0/104884695503845182521
21:41 <@Dagmar> It's just great that he's finally ready to tell people he likes a big dick.
21:42 <@Dagmar> hehehe
21:42 <@Dagmar> English is sometimes a wonderful language.
21:43 <@Dagmar> TC-Work: I think perhaps you mean 18.
21:44 <@Evilpig> this printer is about to have an accident and fall down the stairs
21:46 <@Bahhumbug> Do It!
21:46 <@Bahhumbug> waiting a minute.  Dagmar, they relented and gave you your access back?
21:48 <@Dagmar> Yep.
21:48 <@Dagmar> Damned if I understand exactly what happened tho
21:48 <@Dagmar> I got a _rejection_ email this morning
21:48 <@Dagmar> That's the second email total they've sent me about anything.
21:48 <@Bahhumbug> heh
21:48 <@Dagmar> I was ready to throw a howler at some people
21:50 <@Dagmar> I went to go click the thing to throw another dispute at them and didn't get an error
21:51 <@Evilpig> oh Dagmar... if I told you someone sent a server to the NOC with a PCIe card to be installed by the NOC what would you say?
21:57 <@Dagmar> I'd laugh and tell them "this probably voids your warranty"
21:57 <@Dagmar> Some things are just too easy to go ahead and do
21:57 <@Dagmar> If it were 30 servers like that I'd be calling up the admin responsible tho
21:57 <@Evilpig> I might have to have a good excuse and explanation as to how it got the key to the roof
21:57 <@Evilpig> well apparently the NOC is now installing hardware
21:57 <@Evilpig> and this printer and I are headed for a stroll
21:59 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: was your chnage for 11 approved and the change just not updated?
21:59 <@Evilpig> or do I need to set this as deferred?
21:59 <@Dagmar> It's a PASC
22:00 <@Dagmar> It'll just show requested the whole time
22:00 <@Evilpig> k. had another tonight that I had to mark as deferred
22:01 <@Dagmar> It's also one of those trivial operations that we could actually do in the middle of the day without risk
22:01 <@Dagmar> Straightforward operation, graceful restart
22:01 <@Dagmar> SOME people just managed to bungle even that much in the past
22:01 <@Dagmar> The same people who get sweaters hung on fiber IIRC
22:02 <@Dagmar> Dude had a knack for random fails
22:02 <@Dagmar> I gotta hand him that much
22:02 <@Evilpig> heh
22:02 <@Dagmar> I gotta ask this Fuller guy what's up with the way he publishes his PDFs tho
22:02 <@Evilpig> i've been trying to rack this server for over an hour now. cause of fighting this fucking 500+ page print job
22:02 <@Dagmar> That directory has a BSD-style lock file for everything
22:03 <@Dagmar> Just let it stop printing when it runs out of paper
22:03 <@Dagmar> It'll queue.
22:03 <@Dagmar> Oh wait.  heh
22:03 <@Dagmar> Output is the problem there, isn't it
22:03 <@Evilpig> it isn't running out of paper.  it's eating the shit
22:04 <@Dagmar> Loading 500 pages into the bottom hopper shouldn't be a problem
22:04 <@Evilpig> it's got plenty of paper.
22:04 <@Evilpig> we shouldn't be printing jobs this size, period
22:07 <@Dagmar> Well, yeah, but there's a couple of hard-liners left that worship paper
22:08 <@Dagmar> afaik that's budgeted based on the number of forms we sold 'em so, not a cost issue really
22:08 <@Evilpig> FINALLY!  fuck.  off to install this server now
22:09 <@Dagmar> Frankly I'm just amused we have a printer capable of those kind of jobs in the building
22:09 <@Dagmar> The print count on that thing is insane
22:11 <@Catonic> lol
22:12 <@Catonic> My favorite perk from work: printing books on the $250,000 printer. 5MB PDF, 700 pages. Turned into dead-trees, front and back, black only... 6 minutes.
22:13 <@Dagmar> Jesus
22:13 <@Catonic> Yeah. "Oh fuck, I already have that one. *dumps in recycle bin*"
22:14 <@Dagmar> Ugh
22:14 <@Dagmar> If it wasn't going to be _leather bound_ I wouldn't even bother printing something like that
22:15 <@Catonic> Dead trees cause less eyestrain. And after staring at the monitor for 18 hours, it's nice to look at something else.
22:15 <@Dagmar> You can't grep dead trees.
22:18 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J02sXuQCOys#t=22s
22:41 <@Catonic> heh. I introduced my ex-gf to that song
22:44 <@Evilpig> the national geographic channel has given a show to nuts
22:44 <@Evilpig> "doomsday preppers"
22:45 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: PING!
22:49 <@Dagmar> Bet I know what it is
22:49 <@Evilpig> HAHAHA
22:50 <@Dagmar> Okay maybe not
22:50 <@Evilpig> ben just called in and said "hello wilbur this is ben, I've already talked to peter and i'm calling out tonight"
22:50 <@Dagmar> system load is <0 and connections *still* take an age
22:50 <@Evilpig> not the usual, "is there anyone else I can talk to"  or "it's none of your business if I have talked to peter"
22:50 <@Catonic> flush the arp cache
22:52 <@Dagmar> Well, he does have to tell you
22:52 <@Evilpig> glad i'm not insane.  something is up with it.
22:52 <@Dagmar> 50 copies of rotatelogs going
22:52 <@Dagmar> wtf
22:52 <@Evilpig> yeah well in the past he has pulled all kinds of shit
22:52 <@Dagmar> Ah I see what's up with that.  nvm
22:53 <@Evilpig> is anyone getting a favicon from this? http://spydermansforum.com
23:04 <@Dagmar> VMware was doing something
23:04 <@Dagmar> Has to be
23:05 <@Bahhumbug> Evilpig: yes, there's a favicon.
23:06 <@Evilpig> thx.  it isn't showing in firefox or ie for me
23:06 <@Bahhumbug> FF here.  show's it fine.
23:06 <@Bahhumbug> (not updated to 10 yes, however, still on 9.0 I believe)
23:06 <@Bahhumbug> s/yes/yet/
23:06 <@Evilpig> good.  just a cache error then
23:07 <@Bahhumbug> s/sho... oh, fuck it.
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23:23 <@Evilpig> agggg!! my foot is asleep
23:27 <@Bahhumbug> I hate that.
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23:57 <@aestetix> wow
23:57 <@aestetix> heph is gonna have a fun day tomorrow
23:57 <@aestetix> http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/p8chl/just_another_day_in_san_francisco_san_francisco/
23:59 <@aestetix> Dagmar: ping
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