--- Log opened Wed Jan 25 00:00:00 2012 00:00 <@Dagmar> I had to switch back to a 16x16 texture pack to see the trees. heh 00:13 <@Dagmar> http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s188/evildagmar/Minecraft%2012w3/ 00:15 <@Dagmar> It resized the images for me. Yuck 00:15 <@Evilpig> wow. that is interesting 00:16 <@Dagmar> Ah wait I see what it did 00:46 -!- aestetix [~aestetix@173-203-198-40.static.cloud-ips.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:47 -!- rhia [~rhia@50-47-19-104.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:53 -!- aestetix [~aestetix@173-203-198-40.static.cloud-ips.com] has joined #se2600 01:00 -!- rhia [~rhia@50-47-19-104.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has joined #se2600 01:00 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rhia] by ChanServ 01:45 -!- overfiend [overfien@foster.stonedcoder.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:47 -!- overfien [overfien@foster.stonedcoder.org] has joined #se2600 02:03 -!- rhia [~rhia@50-47-19-104.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 02:18 -!- rhia [~rhia@50-47-19-104.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has joined #se2600 02:18 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rhia] by ChanServ 03:13 -!- sync350 [~sync@c-24-30-78-161.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 03:37 -!- the_hugme [~jallman@service.vendormate.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:37 <@Evilpig> I can see the end of the tunnel now. thank jeebus there is light 03:42 -!- the_hugme [~jallman@service.vendormate.net] has joined #se2600 03:48 <@Evilpig> doing the full test now. if this works I can ship this server back. the dude can login and sudo /home/wilbur/migratesmf and kick back while the magic happens 04:37 -!- the_hugme [~jallman@service.vendormate.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:50 -!- the_hugme [~jallman@service.vendormate.net] has joined #se2600 05:30 <@Evilpig> I need one of you ubuntu people to tell me why run-parts --test /etc/cron.hourly returns NOTHING! 05:31 <@Bahhumbug> because Ubuntu is a joke? 05:31 <@Bahhumbug> just sayin' 05:32 <@Bahhumbug> hey 05:32 <@Bahhumbug> did you ever sort out the issue where you could get a log file written to /tmp? 05:33 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o the_hugme] by ChanServ 05:33 <@Evilpig> no. I had to abandon that for a while to get this other done 05:34 * Bahhumbug nods 05:34 <@Evilpig> I loathe ubuntu but that is what is on this box and I need these daily backups to run. and this is giving me no errors to go on 05:35 <@Bahhumbug> I would feign shock and disbelief but that's the point? you'd just see right through it. 05:37 <@Evilpig> okay I just solved it and I wanna strangle a bitch now 05:37 <@Bahhumbug> remember: cron environment != interactive environment; ensure everything is in the PATH (defaults to /bin:/usr/bin in a sane environment) or is using fully-qualified paths; test script with sh -v -x /etc/cron.hourly/script to make sure it's sane; check /var/log/cron. 05:37 <@Evilpig> to make it show up to the run-parts.... I did a mv MySQL.dump mysqldump 05:37 <@Bahhumbug> disclaimer - I absolutely refuse to touch debian/ubuntu and the above reflects sanity on an EL distro. 05:38 <@Evilpig> that's it. I DEMAND A ROUND UP AND STRINGING UP OF ALL DEBIAN/UBUNTU DEVS IMMEDIATELY! 05:39 <@Evilpig> that right there is completely fucking retarded and should not EVER be an issue 05:39 <@Bahhumbug> I'd contribute to that. 05:41 <@Evilpig> I mean really? why the fuck would you have a directory to get scanned for hourly / daily / whatever jobs if it is going to ignore anything with a . 05:42 <@Bahhumbug> hmm. 05:42 <@Bahhumbug> that really shouldn't happen. 05:42 <@Evilpig> this feels like something I should set Dagmar on. he loves to rip people for stupid shit like this 05:42 <@Evilpig> I can reproduce it though 05:43 <@Bahhumbug> there are a set of patterns that run-parts will ignore on a sane distro. 05:43 <@Bahhumbug> http://fpaste.org/zEvt/ 05:43 <@Evilpig> MySQL.dump is the one I run on my stuff. never had any issues with it 05:43 <@Bahhumbug> that's from a C5.7 box. 05:44 <@Bahhumbug> '.' patterns are not excluded. so either ubuntu sucks ever more goat dick than I believe or someone there is too stupid to be allowed to pollute the gene pool. 05:44 <@Bahhumbug> s/ever/even/ 05:44 <@Evilpig> run-parts is a binary on this not a script. 05:46 <@Evilpig> If neither the --lsbsysinit option nor the --regex option is given then 05:46 <@Evilpig> the names must consist entirely of ASCII upper- and lower-case letters, 05:46 <@Evilpig> ASCII digits, ASCII underscores, and ASCII minus-hyphens. 05:46 <@Evilpig> but no decimals 05:47 <@Evilpig> ... wanna strangle a bitch 05:50 <@Bahhumbug> Uh... wtf? 05:51 <@Evilpig> strange from their man page 05:51 <@Bahhumbug> first of all.. since when the fuck is shitbuntu an LSB-compliant system? 05:51 <@Bahhumbug> meh, fuck it. 05:51 <@Bahhumbug> too idiotic to bother with. 05:52 <@Evilpig> now if I could only remember what I was trying to get to write the other day and get that solved this morning. today would be a good day 05:53 <@Bahhumbug> a torrent program of one sort or another 05:53 <@Evilpig> ahh yes rtorrent. 05:53 <@Evilpig> on second thought. i'll just forget that is an issue for today. today is a good day 05:54 <@Bahhumbug> good plan. 05:55 < ZombieChicken> wanting to run rtorrent as a daemon? 05:55 <@Evilpig> should make time to goto the hotel and talk to the owner about how I rooted their network security device in ~30sec :-/ 05:58 <@Bahhumbug> Again, I would feign shock and amazement that such a thing would be possible... But I'd just be lying. 06:00 <@Evilpig> I don't know who put this thing in but they had no business doing it for sure 06:01 <@Evilpig> supposedly that has a dual wan support but only one wan port on it. meant to look up more info on that 06:45 -!- rangerz [~mwalker@c-98-211-44-193.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:54 -!- rangerz [~mwalker@c-98-211-44-193.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 06:58 -!- rangerz [~mwalker@c-98-211-44-193.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:18 <@Evilpig> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120124/04344817524/wil-wheaton-says-chris-dodd-is-lying-about-lost-jobs-says-mpaa-accounting-creates-more-losses-than-piracy.shtml 07:18 <@Evilpig> "As we've been saying for the better part of a decade, the best way to deal with "piracy" is to properly compete with it. But Dodd and the MPAA still just don't get that. Actually innovating and competing in the market just isn't how things are done in Washington DC, I guess." 07:57 -!- stowbari [~Stowbari@adsl-99-126-66-164.dsl.akrnoh.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 08:28 -!- stowbari [~Stowbari@adsl-99-126-66-164.dsl.akrnoh.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:30 -!- ZombieChicken [~none@unaffiliated/forgottenwizard] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:55 <@Evilpig> off to the ups store. wheeeee 09:03 -!- rangerz [~mwalker@c-98-211-44-193.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 09:21 -!- timoguin [timoguin@phneak.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:23 -!- timoguin [timoguin@phneak.net] has joined #se2600 09:23 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o timoguin] by ChanServ 09:34 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: jdspiralz, RedDingDawn, @the_hugme 09:34 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: @sasquatc3, NotLarry, @opticron, @mog 09:34 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: @Feltenix, @Sheath, @Bahhumbug, MinecraftRelay, @brimstone, @oddball, eryc, @unixfg, @timoguin, @Dementia, (+19 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 09:35 -!- sync350 [~sync@c-24-30-78-161.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 09:37 -!- ZeroMinuS^2 [~ident@99-63-224-9.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:40 -!- m0j0-j0j0 [~jkemp@cnet520-hosoc.mcclatchyinteractive.com] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 09:41 -!- vaneck [~cdctech@96-38-5-186.static.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 09:50 -!- rhia [~rhia@50-47-19-104.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 10:06 -!- Netsplit over, joins: NotLarry, opticron, mog, sasquatc3 10:06 -!- m0j0-j0j0 [~jkemp@cnet520-hosoc.mcclatchyinteractive.com] has joined #se2600 10:06 -!- Netsplit over, joins: RedDingDawn, @Dementia 10:06 -!- ServerMode/#se2600 [+oooo opticron mog sasquatc3 Dementia] by zelazny.freenode.net 10:06 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @unixfg, @brookshire, @Feltenix, Rious, @ladymerlin, WebDawg, @Sheath, @brimstone, timoguin, @oddball (+18 more) 10:06 -!- ZeroMinuS^2 [~ident@99-63-224-9.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 10:06 -!- vaneck [~cdctech@96-38-5-186.static.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #se2600 10:06 -!- rhia [~rhia@50-47-19-104.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has joined #se2600 10:06 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @the_hugme, jdspiralz 10:06 -!- ServerMode/#se2600 [+oo timoguin the_hugme] by zelazny.freenode.net 10:16 -!- emwav [~emwav@173.226.92.195] has joined #se2600 10:20 -!- rangerz [~mwalker@c-98-211-44-193.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:33 -!- emwav [~emwav@173.226.92.195] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:51 -!- rangerz [~mwalker@c-98-211-44-193.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 11:00 -!- Evilpig changed the topic of #se2600 to: I bought a pony. 11:28 -!- overfien [overfien@foster.stonedcoder.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:39 <@Dagmar> Possibly tigers: http://i.imgur.com/VYDGZ.png 11:42 < rangerz> it would impress me a whole lot more if it was tiggers 11:55 < rangerz> and NO rhyming 11:55 -!- ZombieChicken [~none@c-76-18-188-147.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 11:55 -!- ZombieChicken [~none@c-76-18-188-147.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 11:55 -!- ZombieChicken [~none@unaffiliated/forgottenwizard] has joined #se2600 11:57 <@Dagmar> It's official. The world is ending in 2012. 11:57 <@Dagmar> Blizzcon has been cancelled. 11:59 <@Sheath> aww why 12:00 <@Dagmar> Probably so they won't have to watch any more pasty-kids actually injure themselves onstage by merely jumping up and down. 12:00 <@Dagmar> Wilpig will shit 12:08 <@Dagmar> ...and that's if the announcement didn't wake him up somehow. 12:10 -!- rangerz1 [~mwalker@c-98-211-44-193.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 12:11 -!- rangerz [~mwalker@c-98-211-44-193.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:17 < rangerz1> activision is saying "no more money for you" 12:17 < rangerz1> that the _only_ thing i can think about 12:20 < rangerz1> but to be honest, I've never gone to a blizzcon, and doubt i would have, plus now everything that was done there (tournament wise) is now online 12:26 < rangerz1> ugh 12:26 < rangerz1> stupid contractor messing with the lines outside, causing the net to go down 12:54 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o aestetix] by ChanServ 12:58 <@Dagmar> Yes but it's the only time of year some of these misshapen freaks can kid themselves into thinking they'll meet a girl 13:20 -!- ZombieChicken [~none@unaffiliated/forgottenwizard] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:19 -!- sync350 [~sync@c-24-30-78-161.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 14:20 -!- stowbari [~Stowbari@adsl-99-126-66-164.dsl.akrnoh.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 15:34 -!- ZombieChicken [~none@c-76-18-188-147.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 15:34 -!- ZombieChicken [~none@c-76-18-188-147.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 15:34 -!- ZombieChicken [~none@unaffiliated/forgottenwizard] has joined #se2600 16:07 <@Corydon76-home> Hot tip, guys. If you're in Nashville, stay the hell away from Belmont tonight. There's an American Idol event, so traffic will probably be nuts. 16:07 <@Corydon76-home> Peaches just got invited to do an American Idol photoshoot there. 16:08 <@opticron> nice 16:08 < ZombieChicken> American Idol is still going? 16:09 <@Corydon76-home> Yeah, 11th season 16:09 <@opticron> that kinda makes me sad 16:11 < ZombieChicken> I thought that AI had gone the way of the Dodo years ago. Has anyone else who has won actually made a career out of it? 16:12 <@opticron> ugh...don't taint the abbreviation of artificial intelligence 16:13 * opticron taints ZombieChicken right in the face 16:14 < ZombieChicken> That isn't nice 16:15 <@Corydon76-home> No, their ratings are steadily declining, but they're still high enough not to get cancelled. Most or all of their original judges have left 16:16 <@Corydon76-home> Oddly, it seems that the first runner-up tends to do better than the winner 16:30 <@timoguin> and X Factor has simon, paula, and, oddly, a black man that looks and acts just like Randy 16:30 -!- sasquatc3 is now known as sasquatc4 16:31 <@sasquatc4> they anounced they are gonna start doing a 'dj factor' show, can only imagine the horribleness of that 16:32 < ZombieChicken> someone should convince them to stick to pop, rap, and hip-hop. 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<@Dagmar> ...because we know damn well that 10,000 copies of the same song uploaded to Google Music is really going to result in _one_ archetypical copy in the SAN system. 20:27 * mgalgoci looks at the /ban list and laughs 20:32 < rangerz1> Dagmar: I don't see your point/reason 20:32 <@Dagmar> rangerz1: Is the current level of abstraction that matters. 20:33 <@Dagmar> Otherwise, _routers_ and _caching servers_ are all a hotbed of violations more horrifying than everything that goes through PirateBay all day long 20:33 <@Dagmar> Akamai and Amazon couldn't even _dream_ about signing a contract with Apple to help iTunes out 20:34 <@Dagmar> Cloud systems make "copies" of data all damn day long 20:34 <@Dagmar> You couldn't defrag your hard drive without incidentally copying half your iTunes library three times over. 20:35 -!- sasquatc3 [~none@c-71-229-186-129.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:35 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sasquatc3] by ChanServ 20:35 < rangerz1> yeah, i agree with what you are saying 20:35 < rangerz1> I just don't see what you are trying to advocate 20:36 <@Dagmar> THat they shouldn't be pushing for Google to pay them performance rights on what is functionally just an abstraction of local storage. 20:36 < rangerz1> I don't see why the use of online lockers is a bad thing from a music production POV 20:36 <@Dagmar> Functionally it's no different than toting your record collection around with you 20:36 < rangerz1> AHH, i see 20:36 <@Dagmar> THey're convinced that there's a performance rights issue above and beyond just the user "owning" a copy of the file. 20:37 < rangerz1> but thats the ENTIRE point of copyright law, to screw others b/c you own a monopoly 20:37 <@Dagmar> Half of computer science immediately transgresses on copyright that way 20:37 < rangerz1> atleast in the digital domain 20:37 <@Dagmar> Yeah but this guy is actually _reasonable_ about that stuff. 20:37 -!- sasquatc4 [~none@c-71-229-186-129.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:37 < rangerz1> well thats good then i guess 20:37 < rangerz1> hope he doesn't get fired for being reasonable 20:37 < rangerz1> lol 20:37 <@Dagmar> I need to give him a coherent set of arguments for him to use to dissuade his company from pursuing such a self-destructive goal. 20:38 < rangerz1> techdirt.com 20:38 <@Dagmar> He's totally on board with the idea that just because some large-ass company can't figure out a way to efficiently handle rights management that they shouldn't let more nimble companies like YouTube do it with something akin to simple, demand-based pricing and micropayments. 20:38 < rangerz1> has a ton of articles on that basically 20:39 <@Dagmar> er shouldn't forbid 20:39 <@Dagmar> I don't think any of them involve the concept of scopes and abstractions in a layman-friendly manner. 20:39 < rangerz1> his "RtB+ CwF" makes a lot of sense (Reason to Buy and Connect with Fans) 20:39 <@Dagmar> Oh yeah this guy is on board wiht that as well 20:40 <@Dagmar> he's actually kinda pissed because he has trouble getting his people to realize that it's a very bad idea to disenfranchise fans and artists alike the way they're doing. 20:40 < rangerz1> then that site will be a good bible basically, lol 20:41 -!- sasquatc3 [~none@c-71-229-186-129.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:42 < rangerz1> occassionally I find myself not agreeing with him on pretty simple topics, but ... in general he has a lot of good ideas on how to diversify their profit means 20:47 -!- sasquatc4 [~none@c-71-229-186-129.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:47 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sasquatc4] by ChanServ 21:00 <@Dagmar> I'm not even aiming that high. 21:00 <@Dagmar> I'm not trying to convince anyone to adopt new business models. They can do it, or they can go bankrupt. 21:01 <@Dagmar> I just want them to stop actively doing blisteringly stupid things. 21:01 <@Dagmar> Thinking that there's a public performance issue in play just because someone else is hosting your storage is definitely blisteringly stupid. 21:02 <@Dagmar> ...and that's really what it comes down to. 21:02 <@Dagmar> That distinction rather immediately makes the internet as a whole unworkable. 21:02 <@Dagmar> ...because copies, copies, copies. 21:02 -!- sasquatc3 [~none@c-71-229-186-129.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 21:02 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sasquatc3] by ChanServ 21:03 <@Dagmar> Even the shit that I'm typing right now is copied a dozen times over (OMG) WITHOUT MY EXPRESS, WRITTEN CONSENT every time I type a character. 21:03 <@Dagmar> ...and several dozen times before it even hits someone else's screen, by at least five or more disparate business/organizational units. 21:04 <@Dagmar> You might as well be suing Cisco for contributory infringement because they make switches. 21:04 <@Dagmar> ...and Akamai would be _fucked_ 21:04 -!- sasquatc4 [~none@c-71-229-186-129.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:04 < rangerz1> dagmar it is probably repeated a dozen times by the time it shows up on your screen from your keypress 21:04 < rangerz1> caches, pipelines, drivers, kernel 21:04 < rangerz1> etc 21:04 < rangerz1> lol 21:05 <@Dagmar> yeah, simple memory optimization and the way a freaking CPU works causes an essentially _random_ number of copies to happen before you can say boo 21:05 <@Dagmar> Fucking TCP retransmits could affect the bloody GNP 21:07 < rangerz1> lol 21:37 <@Dagmar> I actually had to cut and paste stuff to freaking CA support today 21:37 <@Dagmar> ...for an issue as simple as broken symlinks making binaries in their ISO fail to function 21:38 <@Dagmar> Because _simply sending them a list of the affected files and an explanation of why_ wasn't getting through to them 21:38 <@Dagmar> They were practically one step away from responding to it as if I'd told them their rhesus monkeys were out of tune 21:39 <@Dagmar> I also used the verbiage "I think it would _less embarassing_ for your company if your product didn't so obviously fail at this." 21:41 <@Bahhumbug> hahaha 21:41 <@Bahhumbug> Nice choice of phrase. 21:41 <@Dagmar> Seriously. What fucking idiocy leads one to putting symlinked libs in a filesystem and then trample it with mkisofs without knowing _it will fail_ 21:42 <@Bahhumbug> CA has never impressed me; so as much as I'd like to say I find it alarming that they permit this type of nonsense through whatever passes for QA there I just can't. 21:44 <@Dagmar> They just didn't do QA on it and their support people are reading cue cards 21:44 <@Dagmar> Any amount of QA would have seen that 21:44 <@Bahhumbug> Indeed. 21:45 <@Dagmar> Some unix guy is probably over there going "They did what with it?" 21:51 <@Bahhumbug> heh 21:51 -!- sasquatc3 is now known as sasquatc4 22:03 -!- mgalgoci [~pid@adsl-065-005-196-076.sip.rdu.bellsouth.net] has quit [Quit: (Read error: Connection reset by peer)] 22:05 < Evilpig> Dagmar: blizzcon was fun, it was huge. 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