--- Log opened Mon Jan 23 00:00:00 2012 00:35 <@Evilpig> god damned comcast and their weekly tests that are daily 00:35 <@Evilpig> tv just went quiet I heard a voice say "we good?" sounded just like a dead friend of mine and creeped me the fuck out 00:38 <@Bahhumbug> yay for tornadic activity at the end of Jan. 00:46 <@Evilpig> hey a REAL alert from comcrap 00:47 <@Evilpig> a tornado warning 00:47 <@Dagmar> Global whatting? 00:48 <@Evilpig> http://www.srh.noaa.gov/hazards/?wfo=ohx 00:49 <@Dagmar> Blech 00:54 <@Dagmar> Yeah the animated radar is not making me happy 00:55 <@Evilpig> I'm debating on if I should start writing these sql queries now or call it done for today 00:55 <@Evilpig> http://blueboy.wilpig.org/~wilbur/dev/spyder/ made decent progress. got all the user ids mapped to what they need to be. all board ids mapped to what I think they should be 00:56 <@Evilpig> just have ot deal with the attachment issue then I should be able to send him his server back and do a near realtime cutover from his "backup" to his original with all the content getting merged 01:00 <@Dagmar> Sheet. 01:01 <@Dagmar> Here it comes in spades 01:02 <@Dagmar> Pardon while I go cable my scooter to my car 01:02 <@Evilpig> lol 01:03 <@Evilpig> I should probably go shut the deck door 01:03 <@Bahhumbug> mother fucking alert system :( 01:03 <@Dagmar> I can hear the CD sirens in West Nashville 01:04 <@Bahhumbug> wonderful. useless alert test woke up the wife. 01:04 <@Dagmar> Uh... 01:05 <@Dagmar> I woulnd't call it useless tonight 01:05 <@Bahhumbug> it's the emergency alert system, it's got nothing at all to do with weather alerts. 01:05 <@Dagmar> How do you figure that? 01:05 <@Bahhumbug> it's loud and stupidly obnoxious at 0105. 01:06 <@Dagmar> Know what else is loud and stupidly obnoxious at 0105? 01:06 <@Dagmar> Tornadoes ripping your shit up. 01:06 <@Bahhumbug> Because it's, to this day, not used for public alerts for dangerous weather or conditions. It's still a remnant of the cold war. 01:06 <@Dagmar> How high are you right now? 01:06 <@Dagmar> http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=OHX&product=NCR&overlay=11101111&loop=yes 01:07 <@Bahhumbug> I will repeat. The EAS has _nothing_ do with with weather issues. It has never been used for such, it can not be used for such. 01:07 <@Evilpig> that's just a little rain. nothing to be worried about 01:07 <@Dagmar> Since the tornadoes decided to frolic all through downtown that year, they've been making sure the sirens work and they turn them on when there's tornadoes coming 01:07 <@Bahhumbug> The sirens aren't part of the EAS system. 01:08 <@Dagmar> No, they're not. 01:08 <@Dagmar> As to EAS not being used for that, you'd be wrong there, too 01:08 <@Bahhumbug> Sigh, channel 4's gone. 01:08 <@Bahhumbug> If you say so. 01:08 <@Dagmar> I know so becuase it used to break in during my freaking broadcasts at 91. 01:08 <@Dagmar> Annoyed the holy piss out of me 01:08 <@Evilpig> TORNADO WARNING 01:08 <@Evilpig> TNC021-037-043-081-187-230730- 01:08 <@Evilpig> /O.NEW.KOHX.TO.W.0008.120123T0653Z-120123T0730Z/ 01:08 <@Evilpig> BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED 01:08 <@Evilpig> TORNADO WARNING 01:08 <@Evilpig> NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NASHVILLE TN 01:08 <@Evilpig> 1253 AM CST MON JAN 23 2012 01:08 <@Dagmar> We have tornadoes inbound 01:09 <@Evilpig> national weather service did request for the eas. obviously they don't have to comply but they do in the public interest 01:09 <@Dagmar> Pretty much 01:09 <@Bahhumbug> Hmm. 01:09 <@Dagmar> Many times I have heard EAS go off to tell people "TORNADOES ARE IN YOUR AREA. DUCK AND COVER, BISHES." 01:09 <@Bahhumbug> That doesn't jive with anything I've ever read or heard about the EAS. 01:10 <@Evilpig> there it is in print straight from the weather service 01:10 <@Bahhumbug> Are we talking about the same EAS? 01:10 <@Evilpig> the emergency alert system? 01:10 <@Evilpig> can be national, regional, local depending on the type of alert? 01:10 <@Dagmar> The thing that goes "BRAAAAAP-BRRAAAAP-BRRAAAAAAp-KCHCHCHC-BRAAAP This is a test of the Emergency Alert System..." 01:10 <@Bahhumbug> The tests that used to say "If this had been a real emergency you would have been instructed to tune to news in your area for further information."? 01:10 <@Evilpig> yup that's the thing 01:11 <@Dagmar> Yes, they used to just go "BEEP" and then say it 01:11 <@Dagmar> THey switched over to the more automated system here in like 99, 98 somewhere around in there 01:11 <@Bahhumbug> They never say anything. Just black screen, text and obnoxious beep sequence. 01:11 <@Bahhumbug> Weird. 01:11 <@Bahhumbug> I apologize. 01:11 <@Dagmar> Until then, every station had some poor schmuck just hitting the test ack 01:11 <@Bahhumbug> I'm quite obviously wrong. 01:12 <@Bahhumbug> Better question is where the fuck did channel 4 go? 01:12 <@Dagmar> You don't generally hear it on major stations because for testing they just require the stations do it sometime in the next 24 hours. 01:12 <@Dagmar> When the system went automated, 91 didn't have control over it anymore. 01:12 <@Bahhumbug> neat 01:12 <@Dagmar> Or at least, the DJs didn't. When the test system went off, it would take over the transmitter 01:12 <@Bahhumbug> cable box says EAS 01:12 <@Bahhumbug> and nothing works on it. 01:13 <@Bahhumbug> I've never seen this before. 01:13 <@Dagmar> AFAIK that BRAAAAP thing is actually low-speed encoding of the announcement text to follow 01:13 <@Bahhumbug> Do they do this for the entire market or do they have finer-grained location control on it? 01:13 <@Dagmar> It is, and you will not really hear me say this elsewhere, hideously open. 01:13 <@Bahhumbug> Meaning am I getting this because of BNA area issues? Or is this something I should be concerned with here? 01:13 <@Evilpig> it's the entire region right now 01:14 <@Evilpig> alabama to KY 01:14 <@Bahhumbug> Meh 01:14 <@Dagmar> Bahhumbug: The expectation is that generally where it might matter, there's going to be people smart enough to make the decision to override or not 01:14 <@Bahhumbug> rain just hit here, and I've got a hook heading straight for me. 01:14 <@Dagmar> If they don't postpone it, and it matches the area, it goes out 01:14 <@Bahhumbug> I just love TN. 01:14 <@Bahhumbug> (this shit doesn't happen in chicago :( ) 01:15 <@Dagmar> Well, it didn't _used_ to happen here 01:15 <@Bahhumbug> this EAS shit is fucking stupid. 01:15 <@Dagmar> This is the only winter I know of here where we've had fucking tornadoes 01:15 <@Bahhumbug> the box is locked on a black screen 01:15 <@Bahhumbug> with no audio/video 01:15 <@Dagmar> Bahhumbug: Comcast may have boned it 01:15 <@Dagmar> Anyone suprised by that concept? No? 01:15 <@Dagmar> Bahhumbug: How long ago did you move here? 01:16 <@Bahhumbug> this is charter 01:16 <@Bahhumbug> been here since '00 01:16 <@Dagmar> Ah... You missed the really epic stuff from the last half of the 90's then 01:16 <@Bahhumbug> and since then have seen more shitty weather than the 34 years I spent in chicago by a factor or 4 or 5, easily. 01:16 <@Dagmar> Haahah 01:16 <@Bahhumbug> yeah, missed the downtown twister. 01:16 <@Dagmar> You missed our return to the 1800's for a week as well 01:17 <@Bahhumbug> this is FUCKING STUPID 01:17 <@Dagmar> I would LIKE to say that the may floods were a fluke 01:17 <@Bahhumbug> EAS == retarded bullshit 01:17 <@Bahhumbug> no news? 01:17 <@Bahhumbug> no radar? 01:17 <@Bahhumbug> fuck you, charter. 01:17 <@Bahhumbug> (and my scanner's out in the fucking car) 01:17 <@Dagmar> Well, Davidson County is about to get *walloped8 01:21 <@Bahhumbug> I just can't get past how idiotic this is. 01:21 <@Bahhumbug> I know this is charter's fault. 01:23 <@Dagmar> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaqC5FnvAEc 01:26 <@Bahhumbug> fuck you very much, charter. 01:26 <@Bahhumbug> rip out cable box, plug cable into TV, and looky there. it works. 01:27 <@Bahhumbug> looks like most will be missing me from what I'm seeing. 01:27 <@Bahhumbug> can't say the same for where you folks are at. 01:28 <@Evilpig> Bahhumbug: that still works here. you just get dick for content 01:28 <@Evilpig> fucking asshole comcast 01:28 <@Bahhumbug> yeah, I'm pretty miffed at charter at the moment. for lack of anyone else to be pissed off at. 01:28 <@Evilpig> I don't mind the box, entirely, for HD content. I loathe all cables boxes that dont' let me tell it to skip channels by default 01:28 <@Bahhumbug> I will be talking to someone about this tomorrow. 01:29 <@Bahhumbug> if you're going into "EAS mode", then be useful and give me information. otherwise you are placing people at risk. 01:30 -!- ZombieChicken [~none@unaffiliated/forgottenwizard] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:30 <@Bahhumbug> meh, I was wrong. still got bad stuff heading this way. 01:33 <@Dagmar> I just went outside 01:33 <@Dagmar> Wish I hadn't done that 01:34 <@Dagmar> The worst part of that storm is in fact pretty bad 01:37 <@Evilpig> i'm about to head out for dinner 01:39 <@Dagmar> >50mph winds kicked in as I stepped out of the lee of the building 01:40 <@Evilpig> guess I should go get a shower 01:40 <@Dagmar> You can probably handle both things at the same time right now if you hurry 01:40 <@Dagmar> Just run out there with some soap 01:41 <@Evilpig> i'm not worried. I've driven through tornados before. got some hilarious close call stories too 01:41 <@Evilpig> well hilarious now. damnit I just crapped myself at the time 01:42 <@Bahhumbug> we had a tornado clip the tail of of the property I'm living at now a few years back, EF2 or 3 (think it was a 2, though). 01:42 <@Bahhumbug> heard it. does indeed sound like a freight train. 01:42 <@Bahhumbug> helped people clean up the broken rubble of their homes and look in their fields for anything salvagable. 01:43 <@Bahhumbug> I don't care to see that ever again. 01:43 <@Evilpig> the last one I was in I was in a school when it went on lock down 01:44 <@Evilpig> the storm was coming and they were going to try to get the kids out early but it picked up speed and building went to lockdown. it was freaky. had alot of fun messing with the kid's heads though 01:44 <@Bahhumbug> Chicago proper is pretty much isolated from this type of weather behavior; outlying counties get it, but Chicago itself is generally safe. In all the years I was there there was one repotrde twister although the NWS never certified it as such (roofs were blown miles away, trees twster like toothpicks, etc). 01:44 <@Bahhumbug> But that was it. 01:44 <@Evilpig> back in a bit. getting clean so I can go get dinner 01:44 <@Bahhumbug> I dislike this type of weather. Dsilike it greatly. It scares me and I dislike being scared. 01:50 <@Dagmar> Take it as a good thing that you're scared. 01:50 <@Dagmar> You can't be scared if it's killed you. 01:50 <@Dagmar> So as long as you're scared, you're not dea. 01:50 <@Dagmar> d 01:51 <@Dagmar> LOL Start Trek Online apparently went FTP on Friday 01:51 <@Bahhumbug> jesus. 01:51 <@Bahhumbug> fucking charter 02:08 <@Bahhumbug> Dagmar: heh, true. 02:08 <@Bahhumbug> wife grew up here (across the road from where I'm at now, actually), this weather doesn't do much for her. 02:08 <@Bahhumbug> I'm the paranoid one. 03:55 <@Evilpig> oh HP. I hope you read the responses in your user experince surveys 03:55 <@Evilpig> "What one thing would you change about this process that would make it better?" 03:56 <@Evilpig> I went on about how when I asked for a supervisor or to be escalated to the next tier of support I was repeatedly hung up on or put on hold until the system disconnected me to the point that if I could have reached through the phone I would have gladly caused an international incident. 04:12 <@Bahhumbug> heh 04:12 <@Evilpig> I also said that the part dispatchers and case managers are NOT managers over the call center drones 04:17 <@Catonic> . 04:17 <@Catonic> it'd be nice if AT&T ever made a shelter where you coul drive a vehicle in 06:45 -!- the_hugme [~jallman@service.vendormate.net] has joined #se2600 06:46 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o the_hugme] by ChanServ 07:12 <@Evilpig> Vendorpig. Silencer of Mal'Ganis trade chat. Feels good man. 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Cops can get a warrant to a safety deposit box, warrant to pull phone, credit travel, etc records. This is in the same general light as that. 19:21 <@Evilpig> it is. just goes on tot saythat if you can't decrypt it they can't hold it against you. so keep the key to your HD on somethign that can easily break and don't use a password 19:24 <@brimstone> but they can't get a warrant to read the password from your mind 19:24 <@brimstone> or make you expose it if it's there 19:25 <@Evilpig> it goes on to tsay they can force you to type the password or face contempt of court 19:25 <@Evilpig> you don't have to write it down but they can legally force you to type it without anyone watching over your shoulder 19:28 <@Dagmar> So in *theory* my Google+ profile will become magically unbanned soon. 19:28 <@Dagmar> ...but I'll believe that shit when I see it. 19:28 <@Dagmar> THere's quite a bit of double-speak in today's announcement. 19:29 -!- emwav [~emwav@cpe-071-077-067-030.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 19:29 <@Dagmar> brimstone: I don't give a flying fuck what one judge says 19:29 <@Dagmar> THey can have my passwords when they pry them from my cold, dead hands. 19:29 <@Dagmar> Until then they can just spend some fucking money on brute force solutions to the crypto. 19:30 <@Dagmar> All those other precedents Bahhumbug cites _don't involve the defendant incriminating themselves_. 19:30 <@Dagmar> You've got a 5th Amendment right to say "Fuck no" when it comes to participating in an investigation against yourself. 19:32 <@Dagmar> You can also follow in the footsteps of a long history of defendants brought before both Congress and the Supreme Court and say "At the moment, it escapes me." 19:32 <@Dagmar> "I'm afraid I don't know the answer to that question." 19:33 <@Dagmar> "I think I left it in my other Constitutional Rights." 19:34 <@Bahhumbug> cryto is a grey area due to the fact that, in theory, only you know the cryto key/phrase to get in. anything else the gvmt can just supeona or get a due process warrant for. 19:34 <@Bahhumbug> sigh, crypto. I really do know how to spell :( 19:34 <@Dagmar> Either way, they're effectively asking you to answer statements that may be incriminating of yourself. 19:34 <@Dagmar> Fuck that. 19:35 <@Dagmar> If they can't decrypt it, they can't "find" evidence 19:35 <@Dagmar> There's also the small matter of if they've taken my shit out of my sight, it's circular bin fodder. 19:35 <@Dagmar> It's next stop will be Best Buy for proper recycling. 19:44 <@Evilpig> translation? http://www.explosm.net/comics/2684/ 19:46 <@Bahhumbug> Dagmar: I do agree with you on that. But I do see this case as precedent setting and unlikely to get overturned. Not with the way the current US supreme court has been ruling of late. 19:50 -!- peaches1984lap [~Adium@216.49.215.4] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:50 -!- peaches1984lap [~Adium@216.49.215.4] has joined #se2600 19:50 -!- peaches1984lap [~Adium@216.49.215.4] has quit [Client Quit] 19:57 -!- peaches1984lap [~Adium@216.49.215.4] has joined #se2600 20:05 <@Dagmar> Bahhumbug: They're using a really shit case to try and set this precedent, because they've got something specific they're pretty sure she's guilty of or they wouldn't be bothering 20:05 <@Bahhumbug> To be quite fair I've not read the article so I'm unaware of the background of the specific case involved here. 20:05 <@Dagmar> In the case of someone like me, there's just no way in hell they'd have any legitimate reason to suspect anything, so they'd be _fucked_ for trying to use that precedent. 20:05 <@Dagmar> Bitch was doing mortgage scams apparently. 20:06 <@Bahhumbug> Oh? 20:06 <@Bahhumbug> Hang her from the nearest pole and be done with it if she's quilty. 20:06 <@Dagmar> Those sorts of precedents tend to fall to pieces the moment they try to use them against someone who they had zero actual dirt on. 20:08 <@Bahhumbug> I leave it to others to risk. 20:10 <@Dagmar> I have no problem flipping off authority 20:12 <@Evilpig> well damnit. I left my hard drive at home tonight 20:12 <@Bahhumbug> Neither do I if it comes down to it, but I'd prefer to just not deal with it at all. 20:12 <@Bahhumbug> I'm old and lazy. 20:14 -!- MinecraftRelay [~bot@wilpig.org] has quit [] 20:15 -!- MinecraftRelay [~bot@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 20:58 <@Dagmar> What could be lazier than refusing to lift a finger to help some totalitarian cocktard? 20:59 <@Dagmar> In other news I'm just beside myself that the gestapo at BNA almost arrested Mr. Paul 20:59 <@Dagmar> Probably the only reason they didn't is because someone wasn't so totally stupid as to ignore that he was dealing with a senator of some stripe 21:00 <@Dagmar> Everyone else for sure gets threatened with arrest 21:00 <@Dagmar> I'm reasonably sure the next time I fly I'll be testing those waters. 21:00 <@Dagmar> No one touches my junk without buying me dinner. 21:00 <@Dagmar> NO ONE. 21:00 <@Evilpig> I'm thinking we can test that theory and disprove it 21:01 <@Evilpig> not me personally though 21:01 <@Dagmar> ...and I'm certainly not above going up with a giant erection. 21:01 <@Dickie> I'LL TEST YOUR FACE AND DISPROVE IT 21:01 <@Dagmar> "Ooo! I think you FOUND SOMETHING!" 21:01 <@Evilpig> I'm down with the show up to the airpoint on viagra for the checkpoints 21:01 <@Dagmar> "You should pull it out and make sure it's not *dangerous*" 21:01 <@Dickie> I think someone did that before and they called it assault 21:01 <@Dagmar> Oh I wouldn't need viagra 21:01 <@Evilpig> don't you mean.... ass-ault? 21:02 <@Dagmar> This is a road I've been down before. 21:02 <@Evilpig> har har har 21:02 <@Dagmar> I taught one of the Rock Solid staff about why we don't shove our hands into people's pockets for a "pat down search" at a NIN show about 12 years ago 21:02 <@Dagmar> Those were pretty much my exact words, too. 21:03 -!- emwav [~emwav@cpe-071-077-067-030.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:03 <@Corydon76-home> razors? 21:03 <@Dagmar> I didn't know black people could blush. 21:03 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-home: POinty things and also it's _ruuuuude_ 21:04 <@Corydon76-home> Yep 21:04 <@Dagmar> PLus there's people like me running loose 21:04 <@Dagmar> hehe 21:04 <@Corydon76-home> It's a good way to get a small touch of whatever drug is in the end of a syringe injected into a fingertip 21:04 <@Dagmar> You could catch teh gay! 21:05 <@Dagmar> ...or Chronic Recurring Conservativism! 21:05 <@Dagmar> ...or you might learn not to shove your hands into other people's pockets. 21:05 -!- sasquatc3 [~none@c-71-229-186-129.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 21:05 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sasquatc3] by ChanServ 21:05 -!- peaches1984lap [~Adium@216.49.215.4] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:07 <@Dagmar> I think I set a new personal record for conflating syntax today. 21:07 <@Dagmar> Trying to write perl and I wound up using visual basic, tcl, C, and bash functions 21:07 <@Bahhumbug> dude... wtf is wrong with you? :) 21:07 -!- sasquatc4 [~none@c-71-229-186-129.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:08 <@Dagmar> TOO MANY LANGUAGES in MAH HEAD 21:08 <@Bahhumbug> haha 21:08 <@Dagmar> If the dots woudln't have been really glaringly obvious I'd have probably wound up with some Java in there too 21:08 <@Dagmar> This the _real_ reason I hesitate to mess with python and ruby 21:08 <@Dagmar> especially python 21:10 <@Bahhumbug> ruby needs to die a death of 1000 cuts. 21:10 <@Bahhumbug> brought back to life 21:10 <@Bahhumbug> repeat until bored. 21:13 <@Evilpig> how fucking hard is it to change a god damn IP you clueless fucking MORONS!? 21:14 <@Bahhumbug> depends on the platform. 21:16 <@Evilpig> this is the second time i've told someone in this channel... just set the IP back and that person just won't or can't 21:17 <@Bahhumbug> hmm 21:18 <@Evilpig> went through the proper procedure of getting the networking folks to change the reservation for this machine twice now and the lease gets removed for different reasons. gave up on them so I just set the IP to what it shoudl be when the machine reboots 21:19 <@Evilpig> someone in here called me the other ngiht and said " the ip changed again" to which I said "just set it back" there is even an ipconfig dump on the desktop to fix it 21:20 <@Evilpig> i'm now to the point of getting a powershell script to do it 21:23 <@Bahhumbug> I also considered that people in a 2600-related channel would have some technical acumen. 21:23 <@Bahhumbug> err, a/also/always/ 21:23 <@Dickie> I'm mostly retarded 21:24 <@Evilpig> oh this person does. he just likes to do shit like this cause he knows it irritates me 21:24 <@Evilpig> plus the SOP around here is as little effort as necessary to make it seem as if you've done the job 21:24 <@Dagmar> IP addresses change? 21:24 <@Dagmar> I'd ask them what it changed into nex time. 21:25 <@Dagmar> It might have changed into a beyoootiful unicorn. 21:29 <@Evilpig> now I have the script setup. just to make it autorun after bootup with a 5 min delay cause that is about how long it takes for the DHCP server to be an ass and flop it. don't ask me why 21:33 <@Dagmar> Which DHCP server? 21:33 <@Dagmar> If you're going to say "dip-dhcp1" make a magic ticket, put the MAC and IP in it, and assign it to me 21:34 <@Dagmar> I'll "fix" it. 21:34 <@Dagmar> NOC IPs aren't supposed to change around like that afaik 21:34 <@Evilpig> no idea. mirage fixed it and nd&e removed it saying we didnt' give them the mac which was in the ticket and I know he put it in 21:35 <@Evilpig> after they "fixed" it again and it didn't stick I said fuck it. rafiq and I just change the IP when it reboots 21:36 <@Bahhumbug> I couldn't work in that environment. I'd end up doing everyones job because I hate fuckers like you describe. 21:39 <@Dagmar> Well, in their defense that's an uncommon case 21:40 <@Dagmar> Dunno what bug got up someone's ass, but it is just as easily an artifact of the befouled ticketing system we use 21:40 <@Dagmar> It's _way_ easy to not see the latter half of a ticket unless you grab the scrollbar and drag it down on general principle. 21:41 < eryc> we dont use dhcp 22:16 -!- mog [~mog@c-68-62-170-105.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 22:16 -!- mog [~mog@c-68-62-170-105.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 22:16 -!- mog [~mog@fsf/member/mog] has joined #se2600 22:16 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o mog] by ChanServ 22:28 -!- sasquatc3 is now known as sasquatc4 22:42 <@Evilpig> should anyone local need it. I finally broke down an bought a code scanner. should be here later this week. 22:46 <@brimstone> code scanner? 22:46 <@Evilpig> obd ii code scanner. reads the stuff from the car computer 22:47 <@brimstone> gotcha 22:47 <@brimstone> i have a bluetooth one 22:47 <@brimstone> works great 22:47 <@brimstone> also, any autozone and the like should read your codes for free 22:47 <@Evilpig> this one was cheap as dirt but had good reviews. has the ability to read and clear codes so seemed like the way to go 22:47 <@brimstone> they won't clear them, but they'll read them for you 22:47 <@Evilpig> I knew they would but it's a pain to go down there. would rather do it at 1 or 2 in the morning when i'm awake 22:48 <@brimstone> you silly 3rd shifters 22:48 <@Evilpig> and you know there is that whole geek angle of having my own nifty devices and tools 22:49 <@brimstone> why do you think i got the bluetooth one? 22:49 <@Evilpig> cause you wanna mess with people going down the road scanning for bluetooth devices? 22:50 <@brimstone> no, i wanted to read the engine stats while i was driving 22:51 <@Evilpig> I looked at a few of those. just more than I needed. 22:51 <@brimstone> only thing better than wireless is lasers, and they didn't have a LASER OBDII reader 22:51 <@Evilpig> I wonder if I should go check on pat she's been gone a while 22:51 <@Evilpig> brb 23:06 <@Evilpig> http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=21527 I love bug regression 23:11 < eryc> brimstone: what bt one you got? 23:42 <@Evilpig> anyone in here intimately familiar with smf? 23:49 < eryc> i am 23:50 < eryc> bout to crash tho 23:50 <@Evilpig> I just figured it out 23:50 <@Evilpig> had some tables called backup_blahblah that were made as part of an upgrade 23:50 <@Evilpig> just cleaning stuff up. got this thing all good now. running like a top 23:51 <@Evilpig> got regular database dumps scheduled. just have to get them moved off site. have a weekly backup set to grab all the attachments, etc 23:52 <@Evilpig> might setup some incrimentals just in case 23:52 < eryc> wait what smf are you talking about? 23:52 < eryc> i was thinking solaris 23:52 <@Evilpig> need to talk to him again and find out what losses he's willing to take 23:53 <@Evilpig> simple machine forums 23:53 < eryc> ah, heh, hadn't heard of it 23:53 <@Evilpig> http://spydey.wilpig.com:8080/ 23:53 < eryc> login page looks snazzy 23:54 <@Evilpig> this guy runs a tv repair forum off it. it's big. the db is just complicated as crap 23:55 <@Evilpig> doesn't help that I have no idea what the guy before me did to it. so i'm cleaning up his mess while I go along 23:57 < eryc> heh, ya thats always uh, fun 23:57 <@Evilpig> loads --- Log closed Tue Jan 24 00:00:00 2012