--- Log opened Sun Jan 22 00:00:00 2012
00:01 <@Dagmar> Betcha he had something incriminating on the laptop
00:01 <@Dagmar> Either that or it was stolen
00:04 <@Dagmar> Or, and this is actually likely considering he got upset about it no longer being there, he got arrested shortly after dropping it off and has been unable to return your calls from jail.
00:04 <@Dagmar> ...but it's _usually_ the first two
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00:21 <@dasunt> Maybe.
00:21 <@dasunt> One of our customers got arrested for pedo porn
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00:24 <@Dagmar> Well, in theory, "finding" something on a client's machine in a way that wasn't accidental is stupid even when they come back to get it soon
00:24 <@Dagmar> I'm just sayin', if you haven't already, scrub that drive
00:25 <@dasunt> True.
00:25 <@dasunt> It's gone.  The entire laptop.
00:25 <@Dagmar> If you're someone who's never taken a PC to a shop before, and you Google about it, you'll pretty much run face first into a buncha stories about all the shops where the employees got busted rifling data
00:25 <@dasunt> Although this guy is such an ass that if we had it, and had proof of illegal shit, he'd be going down.
00:26 <@Dagmar> Well, yeah, now you have a reason to just turn it over to teh police and let THEM have the headache and paperwork
00:26 <@dasunt> Aye.
00:26 <@dasunt> Really though, we don't rifle through computers we see.
00:26 <@dasunt> Mainly because people have FUCKED UP KINKS.
00:27 <@Dagmar> Yeah
00:27 <@Dagmar> Newbies do it, but I think everyone who's done that more than a year has that same "I DON'T WANT TO KNOW ABOUT YOUR PRIVATE LIFE" thing going on.  Heheh
00:27 <@dasunt> Yes.
00:27 <@dasunt> HELL YES.
00:28 <@Dagmar> When you have to look that person straight in the face later... oh geez
00:28 <@dasunt> Best one ever though was one we had someone who had a kinky submissive life.
00:28 <@dasunt> And he recorded this through digital photos.
00:28 <@Dagmar> Yeah more power to him but I just don't wanna know
00:28 <@dasunt> *And* he had he screensaver automatically display a photo collection.
00:28 <@Dagmar> Oh my gawd
00:28 <@Dagmar> rofl
00:29 <@dasunt> I'm working, and I glance over to the station his system is at, and I'm like "boy, that screen saver looks like a naked man being lead by a clothed woman via a string tied around his penis.  WTF?"
00:29 <@Dagmar> Yeah for something like that, I'd have to say something.
00:29 <@Dagmar> "Dude, we just don't care, but _warn us_ next time okay?"
00:30 <@dasunt> So speaking of which, supposedly, if wine is spilled on a laptop, it means the woman was looking at porn and masturbating.
00:30 <@dasunt> I don't understand, but I asked a womanfriend of mine about why the hell we were seeing so many laptops dropped off by women with wine spilled on them.
00:30 <@dasunt> She explains.
00:31 <@dasunt> I say "no", and ask another womanfriend.
00:31  * dasunt stands corrected.
00:31 <@Dagmar> Yep.
00:31 <@Dagmar> That's actually come up at work
00:32 <@Dagmar> Sadly, it was an employee kvetching she'd spilled wine in her keyboard.
00:32  * dasunt ponders lolling or asking "why the hell does IT staff know this?"
00:32 <@Dagmar> because I used to work in a shop
00:32 <@dasunt> I'm giving up on shop work while I still have a soul.
00:32 <@Dagmar> I am pretty sure I was the only person in the conversation who made the connection
00:34 <@Dagmar> Also, Mangler has one hell of a TTS
00:34 <@dasunt> Mangler?
00:34 <@Dagmar> Vantrilo client for android
00:34 <@Dagmar> er Ventrilo
00:35 <@dasunt> Nifty.
00:35 <@Dagmar> I *think* it may be the new default TTS but I have to look into it
00:35 <@Dagmar> I used it before Ice Cream Sandwich came out and it didn't have this manly britsh voice then
00:41 <@Dagmar> OKay yeah it's apparently the new android speech engine
00:41 <@Dagmar> Cool
00:52 <@dasunt> One last beer?
01:04  * dasunt goes to bed instead.
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05:28 <@Evilpig> dasunt: if you were trying to give up while you still had a soul you missed that boat.
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14:38 <@sasquatc4> http://torrentfreak.com/white-house-petitioned-to-investigate-mpaa-bribery-120122/
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22:05 < rangerz> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2089954/Megaupload-founder-Kim-Dotcom-sprang-electronic-locks-Bond-villain-lair-police-swooped.html
22:05 < rangerz> if nothing else, that alone is enough reason to suppor them
22:06 < rangerz> support*
22:10 <@rhia> dailymail? really?
22:10 <@rhia> that's almost like linking to "the globe" or "the star"
22:16 < rangerz> ehhhh, not ...that... bad
22:16 < rangerz> only really the guardian is up to what i'd say is good journalism over ther
22:17 <@rhia> the BBC isn't half bad, and Scotland has some decent papers
22:20 < rangerz> yeah i just don't count the BBC, since it is the gov't's
22:20 <@Bahhumbug> As much as this is likely to irritate people here...
22:20 <@Bahhumbug> Megaupload got what they deserved.
22:21 <@rhia> considering the record of government press there (BBC)  vs Murdoch and the other tabloids?
22:23 <@rhia> never mistake American right wing rhetoric against "the govt" for universal world reality, just saying
22:28 <@rhia> sorry, but that's like claiming the Enquirer, because they correctly broke 2 correct stories in 2 years is as or more reliable than the NYTimes - on the basis that the NYTimes is "liberal" according to FOXNews and NewsMax
22:33 <@aestetix> Bahhumbug: you're right
22:33 <@Evilpig> I'm torn on the megaupload thing.  On one hand, yes they hosted anything and everything and they probably knew it.  I'm sure they knew it but made sure to turn a blind eye
22:33 <@aestetix> They should have hosted their servers in a non US country
22:33 <@rhia> aestetix: last i looked, New Zealand wasn't a US country
22:33 <@aestetix> rhia: they had servers hosted in Virginia
22:33 <@aestetix> That's apparently how the FBI claimed enough grounds to arrest them
22:34 <@rhia> know that, but those weren't the ones they busted
22:34 <@aestetix> I don't know the legal rationale behind it.
22:34 <@rhia> Evilpig: mega overstepped, SOPA and PIPA far overstepped
22:35 <@aestetix> But from what I understand, the FBI used that as grounds for all this bullshit.
22:36 <@Evilpig> They got way inflated heads.  I haven't read up on everything that happened just that they got busted.  I assume piracy, child porn, etc was thrown at them
22:36 <@Bahhumbug> Cogent network staff were restrained for quite some time while the VA hosting facility where megaupload had their servers was raided.
22:37 <@Evilpig> pretty much any crime you can get for any kind of electronic data storage
22:37 <@rhia> the biggest issue megauploads had was that the US congress critters jumped the gun. The raid on Mega was SUPPOSED to be a cautionary tale to ramp up US sentiment behind SOPA/PIPA but we had some congress critters that we so overwhelmed with the populist outrage they jumped the gun
22:37 <@aestetix> rhia: agreed
22:37 <@Bahhumbug> so yes, servers in the US were definitely seized.
22:38 <@aestetix> The big problem is that this flies in the face of the DMCA.
22:38 <@aestetix> Man, I never thought I'd be saying the DMCA was a good law.
22:38 <@rhia> that Reid et al had effectively neurterd SOPA/PIPA beforehand just made it seem retalitory, when it was obviously supposed to pre-emptive "see, TOLD YOU"
22:38 <@Bahhumbug> megaupload exploited a loophole in DMCA takedown procedures; they left the _content_ on their servers, only removed the _references_ to that content.  And they got busted for it.
22:38 < rangerz> aestetix: i completely agree
22:39 < rangerz> it atleast did 'try' to have a balance
22:39 <@aestetix> Bahhumbug: how can you get busted for using a loophole? The loophole by definition should make it legal.
22:39 < rangerz> should have had a counter-claim before takedown... but still...geez
22:39 <@Dagmar> I think their mistake was in _actually_ threatening Universal's business model.
22:39 <@rhia> no industry should be allowed a patent, individuals only (some can share) and NO patent should last more than 7 to 14 years, ever, period (same with copyright, etc)
22:39 <@Bahhumbug> not when it's a decidednyl grey area.
22:39 <@Bahhumbug> err, decidedly.
22:39 <@Bahhumbug> this will be a precedent setter.
22:39 <@aestetix> rhia: if you think that, then you must *love* the move to re-copyright public domain works :p
22:39 <@Dagmar> Their ad campaign basically saying "Artists!  You don't need a big label to distribute your music.  We're cheap!" was what did it.
22:40 <@rhia> aestetix: ?
22:40 <@Bahhumbug> and the timing on this was purely coincidental.  The investigation had been on-going for _many_ months.
22:40 <@Bahhumbug> (although it's still odd that it happened the day after the blackout)
22:40 <@Dagmar> Also, it's going to be hard for them to sue Universal for the legally actionable stuff they did to their expensive ad campaign if they're fighting their own legal defense elsewhere
22:41 <@rhia> Bahhumbug: not coincidental, see my response above
22:41 <@Evilpig> I agree that the investigations had been going on for months, but I think the SOPA crap probably had some people pull triggers then whether they were ready or not
22:41 <@rhia> Evilpig: exactly
22:41 <@aestetix> Yep.
22:41 <@Bahhumbug> yeah, coincidental.  paperwork to move forward on the warrants was in process before the blackout.
22:41 <@Evilpig> the outcome of the court case will show that one way or the other
22:42 <@Evilpig> they could have been ready to bust them for weeks or months.  we won't ever know that.
22:42 <@Dagmar> Either way it shows they don't need SOPA/PIPA to reach out and grab someone in New Zealand if they want to
22:42 <@rhia> Dodd is on record everywhere that will listen to him that he tried to get MPAA etc to rush this thru as fast and quietly as possible - he's upset that it took long enough that the public became aware of it
22:42 <@Bahhumbug> What bothers me more than anything else about this is the fact that warrants were issued for foreign nationals.
22:42 <@rhia> Bahhumbug: ya think? ;)
22:42 <@aestetix> Dagmar: well, the US has a track record of what they do to countries that don't do what they tell them.
22:42 <@Dagmar> rhia: Hopefully he'll have his own investigation to attend to soon
22:42 <@Dagmar> The shit he said to the news was too far
22:43 <@aestetix> Most countries I know would rather not be bombed by drones or invaded.
22:43 <@rhia> Dagmar: yeah, holding my breath for that (not)
22:43 <@Dagmar> He should be doing six months for 'uncommon stupidity' on that one.
22:43 <@Bahhumbug> If you're not on NANOG you should go read the past few days of traffic on this case; it's quite enlightening from an ops perspective.
22:43 <@rhia> Dagmar: heheh, oh, i'd love to see that law!
22:44 <@rhia> Bahhumbug: read back a few more years, become even more outraged
22:44 <@aestetix> https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/investigate-chris-dodd-and-mpaa-bribery-after-he-publicly-admited-bribing-politicans-pass/DffX0YQv
22:44 <@aestetix> did you all sign this yet? :p
22:45 <@Bahhumbug> No, as I've not done the due dilligence on the case to know what it is I'm signing.
22:45 <@Dagmar> Yes.
22:48 <@rhia> aestetix: yes
22:49 <@aestetix> You know
22:49 <@aestetix> I'm reading Blind Ambition right now. John Dean's memoir about Watergate.
22:49 <@aestetix> It's amazing how little Nixon did compared to what's going on right now.
22:51 <@rhia> years and years and years ago (Eons to some of you) I had a teacher tell me "you don't have to know everything about everything, or everything about anything, or even anything about everything, you just have to keep an open mind and know where and how to find out anything about everything and everything about anything"  i took it to heart and then came (trumpet sounds) TA DA! the INTERNET
22:51 <@rhia> now the problem is sorting through all the nothing about everything to find anything about anything ;)
22:54 <@rhia> but there is no excuse to not know what's happening aside from info overload, if it's actually important compared to BS like American Idol contestants, the information and data are out there, learn the reliable sources, read numerous of them to get to the facts, look into the actual research
22:54 <@rhia> (Gawds, I luvs the intertubes)
22:54  * rhia steps down from soapbox, fades back under the corner table again
22:56 <@Evilpig> on another note....  LOL Lemon Party.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1zynMm1XH4
22:57 <@aestetix> rhia: I like to think that the Internet is proving that humans are not couch potatoes by nature
22:57 <@aestetix> But that's an effect that broadcast media has created in us
23:00 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: I'd question whether or not the guy is a little "special" but the T-shirt he's wearing speaks for itself.
23:00 <@Evilpig> I actually want one of those shirts
23:02 <@Evilpig> hahah "the lemon water did nothing"
23:03 <@Dagmar> Fuck I hate the CM calendar right now
23:04 <@rhia> aestetix: or that we are by nature, can argue either way
23:04 <@Evilpig> I hate my brain.  it isn't functioning.  I wrote myself into a logic loop.
23:04 <@rhia> Evilpig: heh
23:06 <@Evilpig> this is a fun problem.  glad i'm getting paid for this.   "oh it should be easy if we roll out another instance of SMF to merge the data with another one.  the user names should be the same so we can just import their posts when the original gets fixed..."
23:06 <@rhia> Al Jezeera and Debka cover the middle east pretty well, as long as you understand the underlying bias of each - sadly, Al Jezeera covers the west better than some of our own corporate media
23:06 <@Evilpig> of course the user names are the same,  hell some of them didn't even use the same email addresses
23:06 <@Evilpig> aren't*
23:07 <@rhia> Evilpig: that's why you get paid the not so big bucks ;)
23:07 <@Evilpig> this is a cuntsulting job
23:07 <@Evilpig> an old associate called me in on this one
23:07 <@rhia> Evilpig: i have one of those, don't disparage us with combining us with such
23:08 <@Evilpig> I could have said no.  but I could use the money.  plus I stumbled into some info that a few folks in here would love
23:08 <@rhia> do tell
23:08 <@Evilpig> tech/repair manuals for 1000's of TVs, audio components, etc
23:09 <@Evilpig> as well as a full array of problems ==> fixes for various devices
23:11 <@rhia> mirror?
23:11 <@Evilpig> i'll see what I can do
23:11 <@Evilpig> but since it is a forum I can get people accounts
23:12 <@rhia> nice =)
23:12 <@rhia> oh, nice on former, iffy on latter
23:12 <@Evilpig> actually I can probably mirror the entire thing real time to another server.  ;)
23:12 <@Evilpig> would just have ot script retrieval of the attachments
23:15 <@Evilpig> back to my task.
23:53 < rangerz> http://www.ussoccer.com/News/Womens-National-Team/2012/01/US-Women-Defeat-Guatemala.aspx man...sometimes I feel a little bad for how good our women's soccer team is
23:53 < rangerz> 13-0
23:53 < rangerz> our men's team is good, but our women's team just dominates
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