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00:18 <@Dagmar> http://www.wtvf.com/story/16527525/two-arrested-for-base-jumping-from-downtown-sheraton
00:35 <@Evilpig> I heard about that last night and lol'd
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02:54 <@Dagmar> Stupid scrambled sleep cycle
02:54 <@Dagmar> http://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/01/16/wikipedias-community-calls-for-anti-sopa-blackout-january-18/
02:54 <@Dagmar> It's kind of sad how many people posting to that blog clearly do not understand that this is no "sudden" decision
02:54 <@Dagmar> Everything they suggest, they do not realize has already been tried.
02:55 <@Dagmar> ...that this is a battle people have been waging for _months_.
02:56 <@Dagmar> People _everywhere_ need to see clearly that bills like SOPA and PIPA anathema to why we've built the internet.
02:57 <@Dagmar> Those laws would make so many things simply _go away_ at the whim of almost any law firm.
02:58 <@Dagmar> If Wikipedia, Facebook, Twitter, and Linkedin all shut down for one whole day, the internet would not be destroyed by it.
02:58 <@Dagmar> If PIPA or SOPA were to pass, _that_ would destroy the internet.
05:05 <@Evilpig> I was reading something yesterday that sopa was shelved on saturday morning?  is that right?
05:16 <@Bahhumbug> Not that I've heard.
05:17 <@Evilpig> lemme see if I can find the link again.
05:17 <@Evilpig> it read like spin for them dropping the dns portion and acting like they shelved the entire thing
05:18 <@Evilpig> http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2012_01/putting_sopa_on_a_shelf034765.php
05:21 <@Bahhumbug> I'm not sure I buy that.
05:22 <@Bahhumbug> I've not heard anything from demandprogress or fightforfreedom regarding this and wiki is still going dark on Wed.
05:23 <@Bahhumbug> "SOPA on hold?" google search does yield a lot of hits, though.
05:23 <@Bahhumbug> Interesting.
05:23 <@Bahhumbug> Thanks for the heads up.
05:33 <@Evilpig> sopa getting shelved isn't good news
05:33 <@Evilpig> controversy from it is
05:33 <@Evilpig> but again.  it reads like spin
05:33 <@Bahhumbug> I didn't say it was good news.  I just said "interesting". :)
05:36 <@Bahhumbug> I also don't see demandprogress or any other project slacking off on it; it's in the news and it's likely going to stay there.
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--- Log opened Tue Jan 17 06:11:31 2012
06:11 < Evilpig_> well I see the first of your problems there.  sms
06:11 < Evilpig_> sbs
06:17 < daswork> Aye.
06:17 < daswork> "Here's an idiot gui!"
06:28 < daswork> Gawd, I'm out of coffee.
06:28 < daswork> Having tea instead.
06:28 < daswork> I think I see why the British never amounted to anything.  (/yes, I know history, I'm being sarcastic)
06:57  * daswork may have to buy coffee this morning.
07:05 < rangerz> if anyone is interested in image properties, tricks (of the eye, of spider bots, i'm not sure what else) then this http://img.batoto.com/comics/2012/01/17/a/read4f153cbca1188/img000004.gif here is pretty cool
07:06 < rangerz> when bots pick up that picture to host themselves, the text becomes philipino, but when you view it yourself it is english, some trick with the GIF properties (i'm not sure how it works myself)
07:09 < rangerz> just looking at it more, it looks like the trick is in the gif > jpg conversion that some sites do, so they are probably pulling the wrong "layer"(right term for GIFs?) when making it into a JPG
07:17 <@Dagmar> They're probably giving you a different image file based on _what language your browser requests_
07:18 <@Bahhumbug> could be an artifact of an interlaced gif or a 0th frame of an animate gif if it's indeed a "trick".
07:20 <@Dagmar> Not likely.
07:20 <@Dagmar> Evilpig's right.  His coworker is a damn moron
07:21 <@Bahhumbug> No, not.  But I do recall an issue with frame offsets in IE many years ago.
07:21 <@Bahhumbug> err, "No, not likely...."
07:22  * Bahhumbug bacons
07:23 <@Bahhumbug> (yes, it's a verb now.  deal.)
07:26 <@Dagmar> Motherfucker calls to tell me someone was making network changes and a VLAN fumble happened
07:26 <@Dagmar> I have multiple hosts telling me unconditionally they rebooted less than 15 minutes ago
07:27 <@Dagmar> Some lazy ass unplugged another rack
07:30 < daswork> Oh thank gawd, coffee.
07:30 <@Dagmar> # uptime
07:30 <@Dagmar>  07:30:43 up 19 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.02, 0.07, 0.13
07:31 < daswork> Dagmar: The truth is worse, the network went down due to a VLAN fumble, and their first course of action was trying to hard reboot the entire rack.
07:31 <@Dagmar> This is from a large mysql server which will not start anymore
07:32 < daswork> Your morning sounds like it will be fun.
07:32 < daswork> Want some coffee?  Just made.  Thick, black.
07:32 <@Dagmar> If I can put dumbass blood in it
07:32 < daswork> Filled with tasty carcinogens.
07:32 <@Dagmar> Seriously, someone powered down a bunch of shit
07:33 < daswork> Dagmar: Repeat after me:  Apathy is my armour!
07:33 < daswork> ;)
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07:33 <@Dagmar> Apathy is not something I'm interested in when it takes away my last 30 minutes of sleep
07:33 <@dasunt> True.  Blood is called for.
07:33 <@dasunt> Spike his head right next to the emergency call list with your number on it.
07:34 <@dasunt> That way, it's not only vengence, but also a preventative measure.  No one will think of interrupting your sleep again.
07:36 <@Dagmar> What pisses me off is that he's _supposed_ to be aware of WTF just happened and very clearly, he has no idea
07:36 <@dasunt> Who is supposed to be aware?
07:39 <@Dagmar> NOC staff
07:39 <@Dagmar> There's a big difference between someone fucking up a switch, and a massive power failure
07:39 <@Dagmar> Fuck it I'm power cycling that mysql box
07:40 <@Dagmar> Maybe when it comes back up it'll be over whatever the fuck invisible configuration file it's failing to read properly
07:40 <@dasunt> Dagmar: So how much does your NOC staff make?  I can be as incompetent, if I drink enough!
07:41 <@Dagmar> I'd also like to thank our idev people for repeatedly failing to heed our dire warnings about leaving boxes configured to require manual intervention after a reboot
07:41 <@Dagmar> Fucking idiots
07:43 <@Dagmar> Oh great.  A blind phone transfer.
08:00 <@dasunt> Dagmar: That's why I almost think a reboot cron job makes sense.
08:01 <@dasunt> *almost*
08:01 <@dasunt> My inbox is empty.  Did the mail system go down?
08:03  * Evilpig_ hugs dagmar
08:03 < Evilpig_> If I could kill him and feed him still alive into a wood chipper, I would
08:04 <@dasunt> So speaking of people I want to feed alive to a wood chipper, a client of ours with a static DNS is getting email occasionally rejected.
08:04 < Evilpig_> dasunt: the NOC makes anywhere from $15hr - the top end which is around $26hr
08:04 <@dasunt> I check the reason why.
08:04 <@dasunt> Guess whose static DNS shows up as being in a dynamic block on ip lists?
08:05 < Evilpig_> heh.  mine does too sadly
08:05 <@dasunt> Well, it could be worse.
08:05 < Evilpig_> check 173.14.96.225  and look for a reverse
08:05 <@dasunt> I once had an ISP say they couldn't do reverse DNS for me.
08:05 < Evilpig_> heh.  luckily they didn't give me that nonsense
08:05 <@dasunt> I lied and said they did it for me before.  That got me someone who knew what they were talking about.
08:06 <@dasunt> I think I once billed a client for three bloody hours because another ISP insisted that it wasn't their problem for emails.
08:06 <@dasunt> Then it was "oopsie, yes our email filtering is wonky".
08:07 <@dasunt> $15 to $26?  I'd take that if the stress is low enough.
08:07 <@dasunt> $15 better be no stress though.
08:07 < Evilpig_> the work is all the same no matter the pay grade
08:07 <@dasunt> Yah, then I'm going for $26.  :p
08:08 < Evilpig_> for the work the pay is too much, imo.  i'm not gonna bitch about it cause I like the check
08:08 <@dasunt> I have the opposite.  My pay is too little.
08:08 < Evilpig_> HOWEVER...  wastes of space like that bucket of chum I work with should be fired quickly
08:09 < Evilpig_> Dagmar: which servers were reset this morning?   the ones from the other day I am still not convinced was power.    
08:09 <@dasunt> We had one of those wastes of space that we fired.
08:09 < Evilpig_> I'm still betting on firewall and/or load balancer
08:09 < Evilpig_> the firing process for vandy is ridiculously complex
08:09 <@dasunt> I kept wanting to give him the benefit of the doubt, but now our team is down a total of 20 working hours, and we're getting *more* done.
08:10 < Evilpig_> even with it being a right to work state or whatever.  they don't need a reason to fire you but for HR you gotta have a REALLY damn good one and the paperwork to back it up
08:10 <@dasunt> Evilpig_: Try poison.
08:11  * dasunt is giving a 3rd party software company administrative access to a server.  Will this end well?
08:19 < Evilpig_> not often but it occasionally does
08:19 < Evilpig_> i'll put even money on "this isn't the approved hardware we sent you in the specs"
08:20 <@dasunt> Oh, that bridge is already being crossed.
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08:51 <@Dagmar> Make a note... Pray your ESX host never gets it's VLANs yanked out from under it
08:52 <@Dagmar> Apparently it's response will be to start rebooting everything.
08:52 <@Dagmar> No idea WTF was up with that
08:52 < eryc> a coworker of mine bought his own netapp recently
08:52 < eryc> apparently if the battery is low or there is no available hot spare it will decide to shutdown
08:53 < eryc> in your best intersted, of course
08:53 < Evilpig_> that makes a little sense.  if it detects the network drop out it should try to migrate the machines to another node in the set
08:53 < eryc> interest even
08:53 < Evilpig_> http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2012/01/16/so-is-sopa-dead-not-exactly/
08:53 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: I dunno but a shitload of things rebooted at ~7:15
08:53 <@Dagmar> My morning's been a lot of fun
08:54 < Evilpig_> considering that type of thing has happened twice in less than a week now...
08:54 <@Dagmar> I even had Troy on the phone trying to argue at me about the reality of the my.cong being broken
08:54 <@Dagmar> er my.cnf
08:54 < Evilpig_> heads should roll.  I nominate terrence
08:54 <@Dagmar> lol
08:54 <@Dagmar> Luckily, apparently neither he nor Ben had anything to do with it
08:54 < Evilpig_> I don't care if he was involved.  it's for the betterment of the dept
08:55 < Evilpig_> oh ben was involved.  he was sitting in the NOC consuming the valuable air that would have heleped notlarry better get information disseminated
08:55 < Evilpig_> instead it was delayed and subpar because he was being oxygen deprived.
08:56 <@Dagmar> Well, I was thinking at first that Ben had unplugged a rack again or something until Peter pointed out that the ESX servers have some kind of "isolation issue"
08:56 <@Dagmar> I was logging into a bunch of hosts going "19 minutes uptime.  Suuuuuure this was just a VLAN change" until I talked to peter
08:56 < Evilpig_> I blame ben anyway.  the motherfucker was somehow involved
08:57 <@VampirePenguin> hey Evilpig_ an Dagmar
08:57 <@Dagmar> Well, if the NOC had had any VLAN changes going on at the same I could see it as being possible, but they dind't
08:57 <@Dagmar> sup VP
08:58 <@Dickie> *ahem*
08:58 < Evilpig_> it was nd&e changing some vlan routing info between the 6513 and the 7000
08:58 <@VampirePenguin> not much ... arch is starting to use gpg keys now for doublechecks
08:58 <@VampirePenguin> which is a good idea since kernel.org was down what 3 weeks
09:00 <@Dagmar> Peter's not happy about the undocumented my.cnf change.  He used a whole line of all-caps.
09:01 <@Dagmar> I am so _very_ glad that I do not touch config files on major things without making damn sure they remain in the state they were in when the daemon was started
09:01 < Evilpig_> who changed it?
09:01 <@Dagmar> I have no idea
09:02 < Evilpig_> well I can guarantee it wasn't me!  har har har
09:02 <@Dagmar> It just looks like someone commented out the line above the one they were aiming for and didn't realize it, but it wasn't me.
09:02 <@Dagmar> It was broke when I got to it, for one thing.  ;)
09:03 <@Dagmar> "As a result I am utterly unprepared to hop in my car just yet."
09:03 <@Dagmar> Translation: "I'm sitting here in my underwear and my hair is a total frightshow."
09:04 <@Dagmar> Can I word my emails or what?
09:05 < Evilpig_> I'm trying to decide if I should try and stay up til 1 and go see a movie or laydown for a few hours and then go.
09:05 <@Dagmar> It's a good thing the minor change I made to one of the webservers last night can be filed as an "operational" change
09:05 < Evilpig_> I need to go by the eye doctor and drop off my glasses to get the new lenses
09:06 <@Dagmar> You should ask if they have the new laser eye adapters ready
09:06 <@Dagmar> I always enjoy their reaction.
09:06 <@VampirePenguin> ces had these cool reading glasses
09:06 <@Dagmar> I would like my eyes to shoot blue laser beams, if possible.
09:06 <@VampirePenguin> you press a button on the side and it auto focuses electronically even for trifocals
09:06 <@VampirePenguin> $12
09:06 <@Dagmar> They got those down to that price point?
09:07 < Evilpig_> nifty
09:07 <@Dagmar> I figured you'd have to add a zero
09:07 < Evilpig_> need to get notlarry a pair
09:07 <@VampirePenguin> thats what nixiepixel said
09:07 <@Dagmar> Evilpig; Somehow I think he needs a bit more than that
09:08 <@VampirePenguin> i can read the burger signs to order without my glasses
09:08 <@VampirePenguin> cant
09:08 <@opticron> my vision is ridiculously blurry without glasses
09:08 <@Dagmar> GOod thing "number-three-with-no-onions-large-sized" works everywhere
09:09 <@VampirePenguin> 2
09:09 <@VampirePenguin> no tomatoes
09:10 < Evilpig_> here lately mine's been bigmac, no onion, no pickle, large coke.  yeah yeah $2.17 please pull around i know"
09:10 <@Dagmar> <Ackis> we were doing ultraxion last night and we got a guild achievement (fishing) while doing it, one of our members had the guild achievement cover his button he needed to click so he died
09:10 <@Dagmar> rofl
09:10 < Evilpig_> lol
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10:09 < RangerZ> btw is there a roll of 20s in Corydon76-home's pants?
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11:02 <@aestetix> and I get to find out the hard way that rackspace load balancers do not support SSL termination
11:21 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ: that was random
11:22 < RangerZ> yes, it was
11:22 < RangerZ> but it is the channel message
11:22 <@Corydon76-home> Oh
11:22 <@Corydon76-home> Only Peaches gets the prize in my pants.
11:27 < RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMghvnqDhT8
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12:47 <@sasquatc4> woot, hopper and joey on their way home
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13:24 <@Corydon76-home> Tornado siren is going off in Antioch
13:24 <@brimstone> it looked like twister weather last night
13:24 <@brimstone> it was too warm and windy for how cold it's been
13:25 <@Corydon76-home> There's more headed for Huntsville:  http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/wtvf/NC5wx/radar/720/rad_tnarea_720.html
13:25 <@brimstone> yeah, i'm watching it
13:28 <@Dagmar> Yay winter tornados
13:28 <@Dagmar> They're going off downtown, too
13:33 <@rhia> we just have snow, and they're predicting a lot more, a whole lot more
13:37 < RangerZ> http://gizmodo.com/5876771/jon-stewart-tears-down-foxconn
13:39 <@Dagmar> Even better.  Tornadoes filled with rabid yetis
13:54 <@rhia> Dagmar: one of the local weathermen here says they're expecting "sasquatch covering amounts of snow"
13:54 < RangerZ> rhia: where is that?
13:54 < RangerZ> north dekota?
13:55 < RangerZ> the news in buffalo doesn't even get that silly when they get 20ft
13:55 <@rhia> areas north of Seattle and into the Cascades
13:55 <@rhia> Seattle snow is usually a lot like ATL or DFW snow
13:56 <@rhia> has to do with the particular climate around the Sound and the Olympic and Cascade mountain ranges, so, they're as prepared for snow as ATL
13:57 <@rhia> downtown will see maybe a foot mostly tonight and tomorrow on top of the couple inches from the past weekend, but just a bit further north (where we are) its been snowing all day with a LOT more expected
13:57 <@rhia> should be interesting
13:58 < RangerZ> north carolina gets an inch, and they shut down the state
13:58 < RangerZ> (other than the mountains, but thats not many people)
13:59 <@rhia> they've been asking people to stay home, work from home if possible - by yesterday morning, they had had 10 times more accidents than they did over the New Years drunk weekend
14:00 <@rhia> people from the passes (mountains) have snow chains, people downtown, not so much
14:00 <@rhia> and, yes, people here drive in the snow JUST like people in DFW & ATL, which is to say, not well
14:01 < RangerZ> i was telling a story about how we had 3 lanes drifting on ice, around curves on 680 in a blizzard, without an accident, and the guys from TN were like, we'd all be dead
14:03 <@oddball> Yeah, I think the proper term for that down here would be "pinball," or possibly "pachinko."
14:04 < RangerZ> http://failblog.org/2012/01/13/funny-facebook-fails-failbook-like-this-post/ nice
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19:09 <@Dagmar> http://failblog.org/2012/01/15/mobile-phone-texting-autocorrect-autocowrecks-good-morning-dont-interrupt/
19:09 < RangerZ> http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/sopa-strike/ this is pretty cool, just added it to my site
19:37 <@aestetix> you know the system is badly configured when 10000 requests with ab pull a gig of swap
19:49 <@Dagmar> ab?
19:50 <@aestetix> apache benchmark
20:19 <@Dagmar> Sprint has lost their minds
20:19 <@Dagmar> The bill date on my latest bill?  12/01/2012
20:20 <@Dagmar> How fucking hard is yyyy-mm-dd, really?
20:22 < WebDawg> lol
20:25 <@Bahhumbug> heh
20:25 <@Bahhumbug> you know they do this just to fuck with you, Dagmar.
20:32 <@rhia> gawds, i loathe the geico pig on the zipline, that is all
20:35 <@Dagmar> Bahhumbug: They don't hold a candle to Comcast
20:35 <@Dagmar> THe latest bill comes with this really detailed insert with all of their channel lineups
20:35 <@Bahhumbug> there is a geico pig?
20:35 <@Dagmar> ...most of which have no mention in the long list of all the various things they're going to increase the price of come Feb 1st.
20:35 <@Bahhumbug> few companies can compete with comcrap in that suck department.
20:35 <@Bahhumbug> s/that/the/
20:35 <@Dagmar> ...and my bill _still_ says I'm paying for Digital Starter
20:36 <@Bahhumbug> what bw package are you getting through comcast?
20:36 <@Dagmar> How the fuck should I know
20:36 <@Dagmar> Seriously.
20:36 <@Dagmar> THEY can't even tell me
20:36 <@Bahhumbug> just got a free bump to 20/3 from 15/3 w/ charter.
20:37 <@Bahhumbug> at least for me it's free, business rate service at a contracted price.
20:37 <@Dagmar> According to the bill I'm getting "XFINIT Internet" for $45.95/month
20:37 <@Bahhumbug> I'm sure they're going to jack up the residential customers.
20:37 <@Dagmar> ...which later on it defines as "Performance Internet"
20:37 <@Bahhumbug> heh, gotta love the marketing speak.
20:38 <@Bahhumbug> I would rather use 2 cans and a string than use comcast, personally.
20:38 <@Dagmar> They claim, on the latter pages where they let you know they're increasing the prices of everything on 2012/2/1 that "Performance Internet download speeds increased 25% in December 2011 with up to 25Mbps"
20:38 <@Dagmar> So... 2.5 megs down
20:40 <@Bahhumbug> with overhead yeah, it's real close
20:40 <@Dagmar> Entertainingly, in the "XFINITY INTERNET^27" section of the increase schedule, it shows "Performance Starter 49.95"
20:41 <@Bahhumbug> Is the comcast Nashville market docsis 3 yet?
20:41 <@Dagmar> COuld be
20:41 <@Dagmar> I'm pretty sure they have no idea
20:42 <@Dagmar> They are so fucked here it's not even funny
20:42 <@Bahhumbug> heh
20:42 <@Bahhumbug> I'd ask about v6 but that's probably a silly question.
20:43 <@Dagmar> If I buy a new cablemodem, in theory, I can get IPv6.
20:43 <@Dagmar> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1713996589.png
20:44 <@Bahhumbug> 20/4 w/ speedboost.
20:44 <@Dagmar> Yeah I know
20:45 <@Bahhumbug> (and speedboost blows, just to get that off my chest)
20:45 <@Dagmar> Benchmarks don't get more artificial than this
20:45 <@Bahhumbug> indeed
20:45 <@Dagmar> ...not without measuring things in bagels per foot.
20:46 <@Bahhumbug> frankly I don't give a shit what a speedtest server in the local area reports; I care about what I get traversing the network til I hit an IX.
20:46 <@Dagmar> I am chronically out of sync on my billing with them, NES, and Sprint because not a one of them has a clue about how to do things properly.
20:46 <@Dagmar> ...but Comcast's billing is so stark, raving mad I swear I think they are just _taunting_ the gov't.
20:47 <@Bahhumbug> heh
20:47 <@Dagmar> The lineup I have should be _impossible_ according to their rate plans.
20:47 <@Dagmar> I really should scrub a copy of my bill and post it online
20:48 <@Dagmar> The most accurate thing I've gotten from them about what the fuck I'm paying for, is after three _months_ of calling them every other week just to drive someone nuts, I finally admitted I was entertaining myself by putting them through the mill of their own insanity.
20:48 <@Dagmar> They put me in touch with someone who sent me an updated channel listing flyer with the channels I had highlighted by hand.
20:49 <@Dagmar> ...which was actually correct.
20:49 <@Dagmar> Mind you, this was about a month before THEY CHANGED ALL THE FUCKING CHANNELS UP
20:49 <@Dagmar> So, before when I couldn't get a straight answer out of them about how much it would cost to add BBCA to my lineup, with _any_ package at all, now suddenly I have BBCA
20:50 <@Dagmar> At least I still have Syfy as well.
20:50 <@Dagmar> I lost AMC somehow tho
20:51 <@Dagmar> It's _absolutely insane_ how fucked up they are here.
20:54 <@Dagmar> if they weren't a deeply entrenched monopoly, they wouldn't see next year.
20:56 <@Bahhumbug> heh
20:57 <@Bahhumbug> We rarely watch actual TV anymore; I just torrent down everything we want to see.
20:57 <@Bahhumbug> I could build out a media server, but it's just not worth it)
20:57 <@Dagmar> They're making that option _really_ attractive to me
20:58 <@Dagmar> For most of November they were doing "updates" to the cable box 2-3 times a week that would power it _completely off_
20:58 <@Dagmar> Not just sleeping, but _off_ so that it wouldn't respond to wakeup and channel change requests over firewire.
20:59 <@Dagmar> I record *maybe* five things a week to watch out of sync
20:59 <@Dagmar> I was lucky to get two a week if I wasn't there in front of the equiment to turn the goddamn box back on
21:00 <@Dagmar> If they ever start doing that again I may well switch to piracy
21:00 <@Dagmar> If I am _paying_ for the service and I can't _get it_ because they keep fucking with my equipment, I fail to see a point in bothering.
21:00 <@Dagmar> As it stands I'm considering calling and raising hell with them again because I know Fringe broadcasts in 1080
21:01 <@Dagmar> Yet I am clearly (judging by the file size) getting a 720p signal on that channel
21:01 <@Dagmar> 1.6Gb/hr is not 1080.
21:01 <@Dagmar> 3.6Gb/hr is
21:02 <@Dagmar> ...and that's questionable in the extreme, because recordings from BBCA weigh in at more like 4.2Gb/hr
21:03 <@Dagmar> Who the fuck cares how many scan lines you get if they're fucking _blurry_
21:04 <@Dagmar> I suspect this is the real reason they don't like people who own their own PVR equipemtn
21:04 <@Dagmar> We can see that they're downsampling content.  Clearly.
21:04 <@Dagmar> It's not like I can even control what comes out of the HD-PVR unit
21:06 <@Dagmar> They genuinely should be just doing IP streaming and be done with it
21:06 <@Dagmar> I think they're wasting more money trying to fuck people into paying for more "services" with all the overhead that that creates
21:07 <@Bahhumbug> 90% of what I torrent are abc, nbc and cbs shows.  I don't consider those piracy.  there's the oddball hbo/showtime show, those are piracy, but I still don't feel overly bad about 'em.
21:07 <@Bahhumbug> (and a couple from syfy too, I 'spose)
21:07 <@Dagmar> What we need are torrent-based video _streams_
21:08 <@Dagmar> ...where when the time comes for the "broadcast" it just opens the floodgates
21:08 <@Bahhumbug> *nod*
21:09 <@Dagmar> Whoever attempts that tho will get the shit sued out of them
21:09 <@Dagmar> It would be a more efficient use of bandwidth
21:10  * WebDawg http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/sopa-strike/
21:11 <@Dagmar> Seen it
21:11 < ZombieChicken> Didn't SOPA die already?
21:11 <@Dagmar> It'll be interesting to see tomorrow which sites will _actually_ "go dark" and which sites will just say, make their page background black to keep the ad revenue going.
21:11 <@Bahhumbug> Not dead.
21:11 <@Bahhumbug> Shelved.
21:11 <@Dagmar> ZombieChicken: Yes, in theory.  PIPA is still alive and kicking tho, and SOPA hasn't been formally struck from the calendar yet
21:12 < ZombieChicken> thought so
21:12 <@Bahhumbug> Dagmar: is Vandy a cisco shop?
21:12 <@Dagmar> They're in "spin" mode trying to convince people that a protest would be overreacting.
21:12 <@Dagmar> Bahhumbug: for routers and switches, yeah
21:12 <@Bahhumbug> meh
21:12 <@Bahhumbug> ever used a Brocade FastIron WS 648G?
21:12 <@Dagmar> The stuff works.
21:13 <@Bahhumbug> Oh it does, no doubt.  I'm not knocking it :)
21:13 <@Dagmar> Never used (or even heard of) Brocade
21:14 <@Dagmar> We have a unit like that one in just about every rack in the datacenter, with a lot of racks having two for redundancy.
21:14 <@Bahhumbug> Brocade bought out Foundry somewhat recently.
21:14 <@Dagmar> Mainly fiber running to 6513's
21:14 <@Dagmar> The mess this morning happened when something went wrong with a VLAN remapping between two of those
21:14 <@Bahhumbug> I've got that specific unit arriving here tomorrow.  Makes a nice managed switch for the house.
21:15 <@Dagmar> How much is it costing you:
21:15 <@Bahhumbug> $20 shipping :)
21:15 <@Dagmar> Blowing someone for discounts still makes you a hooker, man.
21:15 <@Dagmar> heh
21:15 <@Bahhumbug> Buddy of mine works at a Symantec subsidiary (their cloud backup infra team) and Symantec is dumping a lot of their old kit.,
21:16 <@Bahhumbug> New that unit carries a pretty hefty pricetag.
21:16 <@Bahhumbug> it's comparable to most of th catalyst series.
21:18 <@Bahhumbug> to be fair, even though I am fair from an average "home" user, it's still overkill.
21:18 <@Bahhumbug> it will, however, make vlan'ing the QA network a lot easier.
21:19 <@Dagmar> Yep,, that's true
21:22 <@Dagmar> Oh joy
21:22 <@Dagmar> http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?t=1254
21:24 <@Bahhumbug> oh fuck me
21:24 <@Bahhumbug> please, oh PLEASE, tell me that's not
21:24 <@Dagmar> Note the subtle "buy levitra" in the last response
21:25 <@Bahhumbug> Bry8Star!~Bry8Star@gateway/tor-sasl/bry8star
21:26 <@Dagmar> huh?
21:26 <@Dagmar> I don't know if those are spammers on their forum, or there's some new phpBB exploit
21:27 <@Bahhumbug> Let's just err on the safe side and go with "new phpBB exploit".
21:27 <@Dagmar> We should just declare homosexual marriage legal and PHP coding punishable by death and be done with both issues.
21:28 <@Dagmar> If linking to infringing content is supposed to be illegal, distributing PHP code should definitely be a felony.
21:28 <@Bahhumbug> I fully agree with the first; the second...  I don't blame the language, just the 'tards calling themselves "developers".
21:29 <@Dagmar> California has a special charge for that sort of thing.
21:29 <@Dagmar> It's called "pandering".
21:29 <@Bahhumbug> hehe
21:29 <@Dagmar> All they're doing is encouraging bad programmers.
21:31 <@Bahhumbug> Java's been doing that for years.
21:31 <@Bahhumbug> As has C and a slew of other languages.
21:31 <@Dagmar> People using C don't expect things to magically just work simply because they're on the filesystem.
21:32 <@Dagmar> PHP Users?  Hey, let's install superpie for caching!  It's uploaded... yay we have superpie!
21:32 <@Dagmar> Nevermind that it _does fuck all_ from merely being uploaded
21:32 <@Bahhumbug> heh\
21:33 <@Dagmar> At the very fucking least you need to set the cache_location directory
21:39 <@Dagmar> Apparently there is an "exploit" going around involving certain unicode strings that IRC passes just fine that crash the fuck out of xchat
21:42 <@Bahhumbug> that really wouldn't surprise me.
21:44 <@Dagmar> At some point, fuckers are going to wake up and realize that unicode+IRC really just means "I refuse to detaint my input"
21:46 <@Dagmar> Handing the shit off to another library just to display it and saying "It's unicode, it's that library's job" is just ignoring the obvious
21:46 <@Dagmar> You took data from the internet and did _not_ subject it to scrutiny before passing it on to another scope.
21:46 <@Dagmar> Fucking fail incarnate.
21:48 <@Bahhumbug> )
21:48 <@Bahhumbug> sigh
21:48 <@Bahhumbug> :)
21:49 < eryc> got my receiver all hookered up
21:49 < eryc> and mah roku
21:50 <@brimstone> what are you receiving?
21:50 <@Dagmar> 'I'm watching people in another channel drop in groups as someone goes into another channel and pastes some text that makes xchat-wdk and a couple other clients shit themselves.
21:50 <@Dagmar> It's only a matter of time before someone weaponizes that.
21:51 <@brimstone> DCC 0 0 0
21:52 < eryc> i discovered that one back in the dizzle
21:52 < eryc> sent a fake 0byte dcc video to #pirch
21:52 < eryc> got me a permaban
21:52 <@Dagmar> Hah.
21:53 <@Dagmar> DCC SEND blerpityblerp 0 0 0
21:53 <@Dagmar> I half expected to see someone's connection drop from that.
21:53 <@Dagmar> Maybe we're making some forward progress finally
21:54 <@Dagmar> It probably still would if I threw in stopn*thack
23:38 <@Bahhumbug> wikipedia's blackout is now in effect.
23:39 < WebDawg> https://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns
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