--- Log opened Mon Jan 16 00:00:48 2012 00:01 < rangerz> Evilpig: lol, just woke up, and read that as the "gynophobe" 00:01 < rangerz> was like.... "afraid of females, thats gotta suck" 00:02 <@Evilpig> I'm not discounting htat theory too 00:04 <@Evilpig> hey look it's late tonight. maybe... maybe... he's quitting 00:04 -!- peaches1984lap [four@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:08 <@Evilpig> damn. denied. 00:24 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo84DnfSYxY 00:24 <@Evilpig> that was the seth rogen thing from earlier 00:27 <@Evilpig> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQZU3RwyPBY#t=99 <--william h macy singing 00:29 <@Dagmar> lol 00:29 <@Dagmar> the question right now is taco or not to taco 00:29 <@Dagmar> That's even a question? 00:29 <@Dagmar> TACO! 00:29 <@Dagmar> i'm semi hungry so yeah it's a question 00:29 <@Dagmar> [11:54pm][@Dagmar(+iw)] [#SE2600(+clnst)^^^^^^^^] 00:29 <@Dagmar> .wjelrkje 00:29 <@Dagmar> . Xuerian/#wowuidev tabs back into wow, "Fuck it" 00:29 <@Dagmar> it's incredible to me how many of you all are still doing WoW stuff 00:29 <@Dagmar> must be the appeal of making AddOns, for a while that was all I did :) 00:29 <@Dagmar> ... mckenziemc1 [~Mark@dialup-4.246.253.124.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #wowuidev 00:29 <@Dagmar> ... SignOff mckenziemc: #wowuidev (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00:29 <@Dagmar> ... SignOff BlackNet: #wowuidev (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00:29 <@Dagmar> batrick: some of us arent 00:29 <@Dagmar> ... BlackNet [~blacknet@adsl-98-92-233-163.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #wowuidev 00:29 <@Dagmar> ... SignOff BlackNet: #wowuidev (Changing host) 00:29 <@Dagmar> ... BlackNet [~blacknet@unaffiliated/blacknet] has joined #wowuidev 00:29 <@Dagmar> [][Dagmar] [#WoWUIDev(+cnt)] 00:29 <@Dagmar> the motd has always said 'Welcome to the World of Tomorrow!' 00:29 <@Dagmar> ... Atom138 [Atom138@unaffiliated/atom138] has joined #minecraft 00:29 <@Dagmar> ... SignOff SlimeHudson: #minecraft (Quit: G-going now...) 00:29 <@Evilpig> lol 00:29 <@Dagmar> crap 00:29 <@Sheath> flood 00:30 <@Dagmar> Fucking game doesnt' lock the pointer into the window 00:30 <@Evilpig> just be glad it wasn't something embarassing or secret in the buffer 00:30 <@Dagmar> SWTOR is such a CPU hog I can't keep secrets on here 00:33 <@Evilpig> wow. best random comment on reddit yet. "Am I the only guy here that puts a bunch of dimes in an old film container, then puts that in his ass before jerking off so when he cums it sounds like a winning slot machine?" 00:33 <@Evilpig> the reply to that was "Not anymore." 01:36 < MinecraftRelay> (NotLarry) ;lois 01:36 < MinecraftRelay> (NotLarry) list 01:37 <@Evilpig> hrmmm? 01:37 < MinecraftRelay> (NotLarry) how to I respawn at my death ? 01:37 <@Evilpig> uhhhh /deathtp 01:39 < MinecraftRelay> (wilpig) gonna summon you to me 01:43 < MinecraftRelay> (wilpig) did you see it? 01:43 < MinecraftRelay> (NotLarry) give notlarry egg 64 01:43 < MinecraftRelay> (NotLarry) kind of 01:44 < MinecraftRelay> (wilpig) tp to me and there is a secondary on switch 01:47 < MinecraftRelay> (wilpig) lol. dagmar has zombies and skeletons in his melon / pumpkin rooms 01:47 < MinecraftRelay> (NotLarry) damn it, I need to go in the console and just script this 01:48 < MinecraftRelay> (wilpig) stand here 01:49 < MinecraftRelay> (NotLarry) ok 01:49 < MinecraftRelay> (wilpig) just wait a sec 01:49 < MinecraftRelay> (wilpig) looks 01:50 < MinecraftRelay> (wilpig) they'll be flowing for a few 01:51 < MinecraftRelay> (wilpig) if that's all you want. flip the switch on top of the hill 03:05 <@aestetix> if anyone wants a good time 03:05 <@aestetix> do a google image seach for "aestetix" 03:05 <@aestetix> (nsfw) 03:09 <@Evilpig> uh oh 03:10 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: ring ring 04:01 <@Dagmar> Hey there's actually a few pictures of aestetix in there 04:01 <@Dagmar> We gotta ask him WTF is up with thatt 04:02 <@Dagmar> http://aestetix.tumblr.com/ <-- apparently _that_ is what is up with that 04:02 <@Dagmar> VERY nsfw 04:07 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: @am1n0, @Catonic, @Mirage 04:07 -!- Mirage_ [~mirage@70-90-152-138-Knoxville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #se2600 04:07 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Mirage_] by ChanServ 04:08 -!- am1n0 [~devnull@psychonaut.iamdevnull.info] has joined #se2600 04:23 <@Evilpig> I thinki've seen that before. i'll look whenI get home though 04:56 -!- rangerz [~mwalker@c-98-211-44-193.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:01 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: for the record BEN was in teh room and wouldn't answer the other ringing phone even though I was already on the one 06:01 <@Evilpig> useless waste of carbon in that corner 06:02 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-83-127-82.bhm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 06:02 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 06:16 -!- rangerz [~mwalker@c-98-211-44-193.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 09:01 -!- benthemeek [~i2871blh@173-14-110-221-nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #se2600 09:01 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o benthemeek] by ChanServ 10:15 -!- timoguin [timoguin@phneak.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:43 -!- daswork [~dasunt@174-20-208-27.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:45 -!- daswork [~dasunt@174-20-58-122.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #se2600 11:26 -!- DemonSyntax [~DemonSynt@c-68-53-244-77.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit 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timed out] 15:54 -!- VampirePenguin [~vp@unaffiliated/vampirepenguin] has joined #se2600 15:54 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o VampirePenguin] by ChanServ 15:56 -!- benthemeek1 [~i2871blh@173-14-110-221-nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:17 < rangerz> http://www.thenation.com/blog/165664/colbert-disavows-his-super-pac-ad-claiming-mitt-romney-serial-killer this just warms my cold heart so much 16:17 < rangerz> lol 16:32 <@VampirePenguin> hey all 16:36 -!- daswork [~dasunt@174-20-78-120.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:38 -!- daswork [~dasunt@174-20-94-143.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #se2600 16:53 -!- VampirePenguin [~vp@unaffiliated/vampirepenguin] has quit [Quit: VampirePenguin] 17:05 -!- timoguin [timoguin@phneak.net] has joined #se2600 17:05 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o timoguin] by ChanServ 17:09 < rangerz> so wikipedia going dark on wed 17:27 <@Sheath> http://i.imgur.com/wIvp2.jpg 17:42 < eryc> is that a camera inside a payphone 17:43 <@brimstone> no, he's just happy to see you 19:54 -!- emwav [~emwav@cpe-071-077-067-030.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 20:06 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ladymerlin] by ChanServ 20:24 -!- emwav [~emwav@cpe-071-077-067-030.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:52 <@Dagmar> http://www.newschannel5.com/story/16529862/sheriff-said-he-warned-of-hacking-risk 20:52 <@Dagmar> Tards leading tards 21:30 <@Evilpig> wow 21:30 <@Evilpig> I'd love to know what exploit they used 21:32 <@Dagmar> Proabbly the "I can read the directions" exploit 21:35 <@Dagmar> Not for a second do I believe the sherrif knew _shit_ about security 21:35 <@Dagmar> ...and the thing about they're working on "closing the holes in their firewall" is straight out of a fucking movie 21:36 <@Dagmar> Every mother fucker there is ignorant 21:37 <@Dagmar> Server: Apache/2.2.14 (Ubuntu) 21:37 <@Dagmar> Fuck them 21:37 <@Dagmar> Fuck them in the ear 21:42 <@Dagmar> Shit like this is why people like Terry Childs get paranoid and mean 21:48 <@Evilpig> oh come on. he read on the internets about them hackers out to get cops 21:48 <@Evilpig> he warned them that hackers are out there 21:52 <@Bahhumbug> Oh look. A toy OS. 21:52 <@Dagmar> Configured by morons 21:52 <@Bahhumbug> I can't say I'm shocked. 21:54 <@Evilpig> I have to defend that toy OS on one point. it was the only thing I could get to run on the hardware for my virtual server 21:54 <@Evilpig> that being said it was also the last damn one I tried 21:54 <@Dagmar> Yeah, but adults should have been involved in it's configuration 21:54 <@Dagmar> ServerTokens Prod 21:55 <@Bahhumbug> what's the virtualization platform for your vm? 21:55 <@Evilpig> further... my ONE ubuntu install that is a PRODUCTION box does not have internet connectivity at all. if anyone asks it doesn't even have an IP on it 21:55 <@Evilpig> ended up doing vmware. but I couldn't even get windows to run on that hardware correctly 21:55 <@Evilpig> it was a real pita 21:56 <@Bahhumbug> Not fond of vmware, personally. I'd much rather have Xen. 21:56 <@Bahhumbug> (Not trying to start a vm platform war, heh) 21:56 <@Evilpig> I have a love / hate with xen 21:57 <@Evilpig> novell backed and pushed xen. I used it. xen broke the living fuck out of ipx/spx somehow and even novell couldn't figure out how. 21:57 <@Evilpig> when I originally rolled this vm setup I had a win2008, netware6.5, fedora/cent/redhat something 21:58 <@Bahhumbug> centos should run fine except for C5.2 or 5.3 that had a known glibc issue that yacked up hairballs. 21:58 <@Evilpig> having done it before i Know I can easily flop from vmware to xen 21:59 <@Bahhumbug> To be honest, I've not touched vmware in _many_ years. 21:59 <@Bahhumbug> I know people that swear by it, but they are mostly M$ shops. 21:59 <@Evilpig> it works. it's 99% reliable. can't complain about it much 21:59 <@Bahhumbug> If it works and you like it, use it :) 22:00 <@Evilpig> didn't say I liked it. it works and I don't have to mess with it. ha 22:00 <@Dagmar> Just don't believe for a second that good things will come of enabling virtual memory, and that goes double for -compressed- virtual memory 22:00 <@Bahhumbug> Evilpig: haha 22:02 <@Dagmar> Fuck 22:02 <@Dagmar> I think this same issue has been beating the other webservers up too 22:05 <@Dagmar> I think we need to hourly email the contents of error_log to the people responsible. 22:05 <@Evilpig> you sure they would know what the fuck they were even looking at? 22:06 <@Dagmar> Or skin them. 22:06 <@Dagmar> My ghasts are completely flabbered that people don't do the _one basic thing_ you're supposed to do when you deploy active code on a webserver 22:06 <@Dagmar> You check the fucking error_log to see what you did wrong 22:07 <@Evilpig> hell I do that all the time cause I hate even seeing the warnings popup 22:07 <@Dagmar> Especially when you think things are going fine 22:15 <@Bahhumbug> most people don't even know how to _find_ the error_log. 22:18 <@Dagmar> So no one will miss them when they're gone. 22:19 <@Bahhumbug> Errors or the so-called "developers"? 22:24 <@Evilpig> haha 22:25 <@Evilpig> now that would be a funny hack to pull off. if you could somehow get access to the employee database and change all instances of programmer to error 22:40 <@Dagmar> We should make a list of "Things you should be murdered in your sleep for" for the next PN 22:40 <@Evilpig> sounds like a plan 22:40 <@Evilpig> sounds like a standing around drinking / smoking topic 22:40 <@Dagmar> Somewhere in the middle needs to be "Putting a cache directory anywhere in the fucking DocumentRoot you tool" 22:40 <@Bahhumbug> Hell, I'd go to that meeting. 22:40 <@Dagmar> Fuck this 22:41 <@Dagmar> I'm going to do my change at 11pm and I'm not looking at the damn webservers again until someone calls me to fix them 22:41 <@Dagmar> Otherwise I'm going to have to pick up a big-ass bottle of TUMS in the morning 22:41 <@Bahhumbug> meh, reading failure. You said PN, not meeting. Excuse me, I'm stupid. 22:42 <@Dagmar> Oh we can do it many times a year as far as I'm concerned 22:42 <@Dagmar> Maybe with a long build-up of competition between reasons and have it like the fucking Grammys 22:42 <@Bahhumbug> Call it "Thinning Out The Herd". 22:43 <@Dagmar> I should check with a lawyer 22:43 <@Dagmar> How legal is it exactly to stand on a podium and argue for the extermination of unsuitable humans? 22:43 <@Dagmar> I mean, if it's under the banner of "Satire" is that protection enough? 22:44 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: I said the other night if I had the ability to reach through the phone we'd have had an international incident over me calling HP to get that hard drive replaced 22:45 <@Dagmar> "If you run a 'search engine' which deep-links the content you're referencing, and does it badly, you should die" 22:45 <@Bahhumbug> There have been cases where radio dj's / talk show hosts have gotten in trouble for making comments about how the world would be better off without person X. 22:46 <@Dagmar> Oh I won't need to name someone specifically 22:46 <@Dagmar> That would be inefficient 22:47 <@Dagmar> We should be lining them up ten at a time and dropping them from a great height 22:47 <@Bahhumbug> See. Someone's taking my "thrown screaming from a tall building" idea and running with it. 22:47 <@Dagmar> Right into the biggest tree chipper metallurgical engineering can make go 22:47 <@Bahhumbug> hahahaha 22:48 <@Dagmar> The resulting slurry can then be recycled as useful plant food 22:48 <@Bahhumbug> Indeed. 22:48 <@Bahhumbug> Might as well make something useful out of their wasted existence. 22:48 <@Dagmar> They can pay their debt to society by helping grow pretty flowers and reversing global warming 22:49 <@Bahhumbug> Excellent. 22:49 <@Evilpig> I like that idea but would like to reserve a few slots for folks that would fit there but we just haven't really named the proper category for them yet 22:49 <@Bahhumbug> And for my first nomination: Lennart Poettering (spelling might be off, don't care enough to confirm); he of PulseAudio and systemd infamy. 22:49 <@Evilpig> stuff like assholes that listen to phones ring and ring and refuse to answer them 22:50 <@Bahhumbug> I would also like to nominate Evilpig's workmate. 22:50 <@Dagmar> That would be NotLarry 22:50 <@Evilpig> Notlarry is my eviltwin 22:51 <@Evilpig> He'd be referring to useless ben 22:51 <@Evilpig> you remember me putting you on hold this morning? 22:51 <@Dagmar> hah no 22:52 <@Evilpig> yeah well in the middle of that apache nonsense I had to put you on hold to answer the other fucking line 22:52 <@Evilpig> useless carbon producer in teh corner wouldn't answer the damned thing 22:53 <@Bahhumbug> you should have the legal right to take the phone off of his desk and bust him upside the head. 22:54 <@Bahhumbug> jesus h. fucking christ. 22:54 <@Bahhumbug> I also want to nominate 99% of the fuckers in #centos 22:54 <@Bahhumbug> they're quite obviously too stupid to continue living. 22:54 <@Dagmar> Isn't that SCO's distro? 22:55 <@Dagmar> Maybe not 22:59 <@Evilpig> if you use the novell tie to sco then suse would be the distro 23:01 <@Bahhumbug> [21:56:44] why would anyone use suse these days?? 23:01 <@Bahhumbug> [21:57:24] Masochism 23:01 <@Evilpig> it worked okay when I used it. 23:02 < ZombieChicken> They offer support contracts 23:04 <@Bahhumbug> So does redhat. 23:04 <@Bahhumbug> hell, so do I. 23:04 < ZombieChicken> I didn't say it was a good reason 23:04 <@Bahhumbug> It could be worse. 23:04 <@Bahhumbug> It could be shitbuntu. 23:05 < ZombieChicken> Ubuntu could be worse 23:06 <@Bahhumbug> (I wouldn't mind Shuttleworth/Canonical/Ubuntu as much if they could, just _once_, release a product that didn't have bugs that any other distro would classify as blockers. This is why scheduled releases aren't in anyones best interests.) 23:06 <@Dagmar> Maybe once UbuntuTV is out they'll get this "REDEFINE ALL THE THINGS" shit out of their system 23:06 < ZombieChicken> probably not 23:07 <@Dagmar> Unity is just offensive 23:08 < ZombieChicken> I seem to recall trying out some release Ubuntu put out that had an interface that was just hideous. 23:08 <@Dagmar> 11.10? 23:08 < ZombieChicken> something about toolbars taking up 33% of the screen 23:08 <@Dagmar> If this was recently, it was 11.10 23:08 <@Dagmar> Toolbar on the left? 23:08 < ZombieChicken> Yes 23:08 <@Dagmar> Yeah. Unity. 23:08 <@Dagmar> If everyone had touchscreens it would be awesome 23:09 <@Dagmar> ...but we _don't_. 23:11 <@Bahhumbug> Shuttleworth is using this as his ammunition against all the detractors that have been coming down on Canonical for the past 4 years about the fact that they are the biggest leeches in the linux world. 23:11 <@Bahhumbug> but the funny thing about it is even _fedora_ looked at Unity and said GTFO. 23:12 < ZombieChicken> there is a program for gestures on a desktop that someone should try with a tablet at some point 23:13 <@Dagmar> Bahhumbug: That's because it's a solution to a problem that doesn't actually exist 23:13 <@Dagmar> If they don't make that right again for 12.04 I doubt I'll bother downloading another of their releases 23:13 <@Bahhumbug> Indeed. 23:14 <@Dagmar> Just like that fucking binary syslog mess 23:14 <@Bahhumbug> They won't. Shuttleworth has a stick up his ass over it. 23:14 <@Bahhumbug> Dagmar: Lennart :( 23:14 < ZombieChicken> binary syslog? 23:14 <@Bahhumbug> Yes 23:14 <@Bahhumbug> Systemd retarded bullshit. 23:14 < ZombieChicken> system logs aren't plaintext anymore? 23:14 <@Dagmar> They are 23:14 <@Bahhumbug> Not if Lennart gets his way. 23:14 <@Dagmar> Lennart decided that was a problem 23:15 <@Bahhumbug> Lennart's a problem. 23:15 <@Dagmar> I doubt he'll get his way at all 23:15 <@Bahhumbug> Oh, he will. 23:15 <@Bahhumbug> At least in Fedora space. 23:15 <@Dagmar> He's introducing vastly more complexity for no benefit 23:15 <@Bahhumbug> Because FESCO doesn't have the balls to tell Lennart to step the fuck back. 23:16 < ZombieChicken> I am curious how someone thinks binary logs are better than plain text 23:16 < ZombieChicken> or could think that, rather 23:16 <@Bahhumbug> Lennart things everything is a problem. 23:16 <@Bahhumbug> Have you seen systemd? 23:16 <@Dagmar> My guess... heavy drugs. 23:16 <@Bahhumbug> It's a clusterfuck of a trainwreck. 23:16 < ZombieChicken> I remember glancing at it at one point and decided it wasn't worth bothering with 23:16 <@Bahhumbug> It's not. 23:17 < ZombieChicken> This the same guy behind PulseAudio? 23:17 <@Bahhumbug> As much as I hate ubuntu I have to give them credit; they told Lennart to piss off with regards to systemd. 23:17 <@Bahhumbug> Yep, that's him. 23:17 <@Bahhumbug> And the problem is. 23:17 <@Bahhumbug> Lennart will lose interest. 23:17 <@Bahhumbug> As soon as the next Oh! Shiny! moment hits. 23:18 < ZombieChicken> So why hasn't someone donated his organs already? 23:18 <@Bahhumbug> And considered how invasive systemd is.... fucking titanic meets the iceberg. 23:18 <@Dagmar> Someone should tattoo his forehead with "I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR PULSEAUDIO" 23:18 <@Bahhumbug> As I said, FESCO doesn't have the stones to tell him "no". 23:18 <@Bahhumbug> (Fedora Engineering Services COmmittee in the event someone isn't familiar) 23:19 < ZombieChicken> Dagmar: Why tattoo? The helmet he should be wearing would cover it up 23:19 <@Dagmar> "We make solutions for problems you don't even have" 23:19 <@Bahhumbug> Lennart's brilliant. But he should NEVER have commit rights. 23:19 <@Bahhumbug> systemd's reason for existence is highly questionable, at best. 23:19 <@Bahhumbug> What's worse, however, is the admin interfaces. 23:19 <@Dagmar> Hmm... Content-type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 23:19 <@Bahhumbug> They're just plain horrible. 23:19 <@Dagmar> ...yet the output is clearly a JPEG. 23:20 < ZombieChicken> what is this refering to? 23:20 <@Dagmar> Yes, mod_security made the right call. That code shouldn't be allowed to talk to adults. 23:20 <@Bahhumbug> heh 23:32 <@Dagmar> Oh my 23:33 <@Dagmar> So I just found out what the tiny little hole on the bottom of my Xoom is 23:33 <@Dagmar> It's the _mic_ 23:33 <@Dagmar> GOod thing I never stuck anything sharp in there 23:40 <@Evilpig> lol 23:54 <@Dagmar> I think one of these voices may be a bit familiar: http://grooveshark.com/#!/s/The+Tribulations+Of+Muffy+And+Percival/3CrFQN?src=5 --- Log closed Tue Jan 17 00:00:48 2012