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10:57 <@Dagmar> Oh look.  Mysterious failures in attempting to transfer domain names away from GoDaddy.
10:57 <@Dagmar> Imagine that.
11:02 <@brimstone> the only problem i had with my 4 domains was loosing access to the admin email on one
11:03 <@Dagmar> Well, in this case they're claiming the auth code wasn't correct.
11:03 <@Dagmar> I highly doubt that.
11:03 <@brimstone> copy and paste is a skill
11:03 <@Dagmar> They're panicking because of the number of people their support of SOPA pissed off who are now moving all their domains out, I suspect
11:06 <@brimstone> i doubt it, 3rd parties are reporting that godaddy is still growing
11:06 <@brimstone> just not as fast as before this
11:06 <@brimstone> but still positive groth
11:06 <@brimstone> growth
11:08 < scribbles> they're the only registrar to have a super bowl ad
11:08 < scribbles> not surprised.
11:08 < scribbles> but good that people are moving anyway
11:10 <@Dagmar> Those third parties fail to take into account the fact that domain "tasting" is still allowed.
11:10 <@Dagmar> GoDaddy could easily be manufacturing bogus registrations of nonsense domains
11:11 <@brimstone> not everything's a conspiracy Dagmar
11:11 <@Dagmar> Not everyone's honest.
11:11 <@Dagmar> Honesty in an organization tends to vary inversely to the amount of money on the line.
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13:09 <@Dagmar> Hrm... "weather" is definitely inbound
13:10 <@Dagmar> Considerably less than I'd expected tho.  That's good at least.
15:24 <@Corydon76-home> The TN legislature just introduced a $50 fine if you go into the bathroom or dressing room designated for the other gender.
15:24 <@Corydon76-home> No exceptions if you're a baby in the company of your parent.
15:28 <@opticron> do they put you on the sex offenders list, too?
15:28 <@Corydon76-home> So far, it's just a $50 fine
15:29 <@opticron> awwww, I expected better from silly people
15:35 <@Bahhumbug> one would think the legislature would be more cnncerned with things that actually, oh, I don't know... mattered?
15:36 <@Corydon76-home> Things that matter?  What year are you living in, 1800?
15:36 <@Bahhumbug> wishful thinging?
15:36 <@Bahhumbug> err, thinking
15:36 <@Corydon76-home> The legislature has never been all that concerned with things that matter, just bogus issues to drum up support from politicians' base.
15:52 <@Corydon76-home> btw, if you hadn't looked outside lately (Nashville), it's snowing.
15:52 <@Corydon76-home> and it's sticking, too
15:58 <@Bahhumbug> freezing rain / sleet here.
16:07 <@Dagmar> nothing but light snow here still
16:27 < eryc> MAN THE HARPOONS
16:33 < aestetix> Corydon76-home: wow, that's kind of amazing.
16:33 < aestetix> Who determines what gender you are? :)
16:34 <@Dagmar> Who cleans the bathrooms?
16:34 <@Dagmar> That's the real question
16:35 < aestetix> hahah
16:35 < aestetix> Dagmar: which really could mean that turns into a $50 janitor tax
16:40 <@Dagmar> Well, it highlights the fact that an all-encompassing declaration like that over something which has no serious merit is a very shitty choice for something to draw up a law over
16:41 <@Dagmar> No legislation is better than bad legislation.
16:45 <@Dagmar> aestetix: Also, by this point it's pretty fucking clear the policy the Google+ people follow is "we do what we fucking want because we can"
16:45 <@Dagmar> aestetix: I've not heard a damn thing from them beyond that one form letter.
16:45 <@Dagmar> So... It's time to work out the best way to be a flaming dick.
16:46 <@Dagmar> If they're going to so casually dismiss psudonyms, they're promoting a policy of reckless behaviour I will not abide..
16:46 <@Dagmar> Their network will never be able to escape it's use as a tool for subjugation.
16:50 < aestetix> Dagmar: yep.
16:51 < aestetix> Dagmar: this is why I'm moving all my stuff away from Google
16:51 < aestetix> I can't believe I"m about to say this, but I may start using Bing as my primary search engine
16:51 <@Dagmar> Considering they're rolling all the GOogle+ stuff into their other services, it's only a matter of time before half the functionality of Gmail and search starts sagging
16:52 < aestetix> I think there's a chance we might see a new blog post from EFF soon about this, since Vic (executive in charge of G+) did say they would support pseudonyms
16:52 < aestetix> And they haven't implemented it yet
16:52 <@Dagmar> Haven't implemented what?
16:52 < aestetix> their pseudonym support
16:52 <@Dagmar> Ah
16:52 < aestetix> whatever that means
16:53 < aestetix> I'm a radical and a believer in the JWZ "just don't fucking suspend accounts" approach
16:53 <@Dagmar> If they do my goddamn profile better get unsuspended and it had better not be with a rider that I have to have a "legal ID" on file with them
16:53 < aestetix> But if Google has a reasonable compromise that does not involve me giving them an ID or a name other than aestetix, I'm happy
16:53 <@Dagmar> ALl it really needs is a decent shared secret
16:53 < aestetix> Yeah.
16:53 <@Dagmar> A single page of paper with some junk images on it faxed over would do fine
16:54 < aestetix> I can think of a number of ways it could be reasonable and not require ID. Give them a list of places where you use your name. Or have friends vouch for you. Or have it judge you based on the content of your usage
16:54 <@Dagmar> A concert ticket stub, some string, maybe a bit of ribbon and a few screws... it would be impossible to "guess" something like that
16:54 <@Dagmar> Jesus just about everyone in my circles would readily vouch for me
16:55 < aestetix> right
16:55 <@Dagmar> That's what pisses me off about having the profile suspended immediately instead of four days
16:55 <@Dagmar> I was going to holler for a roll call on that
16:55 < aestetix> Wait, they suspended you immediately?
16:55 < aestetix> I thought they didn't do that anymore. I thought it was a 4 day warning and then suspension.
16:55 <@Dagmar> I got a popup Sunday night and my shit was disabled by the time I got up on Monday morning.
16:55 <@Dagmar> It wasn't even a day warning
16:55 < aestetix> Oh wow.
16:55 <@Dagmar> Yes.
16:55 < aestetix> God their system is broken.
16:56 <@Dagmar> Like I said, some uptight assmunch is making personal value judgements and they're not even following the policies they have
16:56 <@Dagmar> ...and now half the stuff I touch gives error messages on there
16:58 <@Dagmar> For the record I still like Google and their general approach to things, but this profile business is not only wrong but dangerously wrong
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17:04 < aestetix> yeah well
17:04 < aestetix> they've been losing a lot of public trust lately
17:06 <@Dagmar> "While these arguments are not entirely without merit, they misframe the problem."
17:06 <@Dagmar> THat is a very succinct and accurate way of putting it
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19:33 <@Sheath> http://www.wikipediablackout.com/
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