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01:36 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: did you see the announcement we found some mushroom land?
01:37 <@Evilpig> http://blueboy.wilpig.org/dynmap/   location: -11808,64,-4374
01:59 <@Dagmar> Benefit of SW:ToR: You can pick the biggest asshole dialog option every time and the NPCs just roll with it
02:01 <@Dagmar> Drawback: Excessive amounts of artificial epicness
02:01 <@Dagmar> The place is so oversized if you take a piss it's a two minute jog to the sink to wash your hands
02:21 <@Evilpig> my poor hosting server.  that bitch has been nonstop rendering for four days now
02:22 <@Evilpig> load average: 1.28, 1.58, 1.73
02:22 <@Evilpig> at least the load is down
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06:03 <@Catonic> guten tag
06:27 <@Evilpig> anyone else think this movie about the world trade center shouldn't have been made?
09:05 <@Dickie> World Trade Center in 2006?
09:05 <@Dickie> With Nick Cage?
09:05 <@Dickie> No, should not have been made.
09:05 <@Dickie> Nick Cage is awful.
09:08 <@brimstone> who else could have played Ghost Rider?
09:08 <@brimstone> srsly?
09:08 <@Dickie> Phillip Seymore Hoffman
09:09 <@brimstone> yeah probably
09:10 <@Dickie> Johnny Depp expressed interest in the role.
09:11 <@Dickie> Billy Bob Thorton!
09:11 <@Dickie> That would have been teeeeeeeeerrible.
11:03 <@Dagmar> That delusional twit is going to land his ass in jail
11:03 <@Dagmar> http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/nw1vm/ama_the_guy_who_replaced_paul_christoforo_and_is/c3cdxjl
11:03 <@Dagmar> Arrowmaster: That dude is going to go to jail
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18:24 < aestetix> bah
18:24 < aestetix> anyone good with mysql indexes? this problem is really pissing me off
18:25 < aestetix> trying to fix a query that's doing a constraint on a datetime.... if you take off the date() function and use just the field, explain shows it as a possible index, but doesn't use it
18:32 <@Dagmar> I thought you just tell it "Use this as the key field, bitch"
18:34 < aestetix> like with force index
18:35 < aestetix> the challenge is, this is for a django app, and... django is finnicky
18:39 < vyrus001> sigh... django...
18:43 < aestetix> vyrus001: you a fan? :)
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18:56 <@Bahhumbug> django has fans?
18:56 <@Bahhumbug> other than fedora infra people, anyway?
19:01 <@Evilpig> https://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/attack-tool-released-wps-pin-vulnerability-122911
19:01 <@Evilpig> they released a tool to exploit the WPS PIN and with that they are saying you can get the WPA/WPA2 passphrase
19:04 < vyrus001> aestetix: meh, havent used it a whole lot... personally i think the whole "it's so intuitive" rederic is a flat out lie
19:05 < vyrus001> its many things but intuitive is NOT one of them... my guess is that statement gets made alot by ppl who dont have alot of programing experiance and think the data set presentation is very logical
19:05 < aestetix> eah
19:05 < vyrus001> that being said, it strikes me very much as all the good things about ROR without the anti scalability
19:05 < aestetix> I'm guessing I'm going to have to figure out a way to tweak the code on this one
19:06 < aestetix> What I suspect is that a lot of schools are teaching python these days, and django is a natural web framework to use
19:06 < aestetix> so people graduate, start (or join a company), and you want to use the language that's low barrier
19:06 < aestetix> Which has real problems in the long run, but it gets things off the ground
19:07 < vyrus001> thats what ppl said about java
19:07 < vyrus001> and now we have hords of ppl who learned java because schools taught them to get jobs and not actually learn how to program a god damned computer
19:07 < vyrus001> same prob, different lang
19:07 < aestetix> hehe
19:08 < vyrus001> its a problem that wont get fixed... schools want money, they get kick backs by teaching to specific big biz enviornments
19:08 < vyrus001> bladerunner 2012
19:10 < aestetix> And you wind up with someone like me who has to hack the framework to get it working right
19:11 < vyrus001> yep
19:11 < vyrus001> story of my life
19:12 < vyrus001> that combind with the atrocious amount of dick holding neccisary to pat web clients on the head for doing stupid shit that makes jobs take longer and general unproffesionalism is why i got out of doing web dev for good unless its for a personal favor
19:13 < aestetix> heh
19:13 < aestetix> It's just an annoying cycle. Part of it is that every couple of weeks a new query becomes the slow query du jou
19:14 < aestetix> Also, convincing the executives that just because nagios gave a warning doesn't mean it matters. No impact to customers = no concern of mine
19:28 <@Evilpig> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?nm_mc=AFC-TechBargains&cm_mmc=AFC-TechBargains-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA&Item=N82E16816111177
19:28 <@Evilpig> anyone ever used anything by this company before?
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20:28 <@Dagmar> aestetix: The answer is "if it mattered, it would be a Critical"
20:31 < aestetix> hehe yeah
20:31 < aestetix> well even so
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