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00:13 <@Evilpig> Mirage: ping
00:39 <@CNwaV> Pong
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00:52 < RedDingDawn_m> Yarrr!
00:59 <@Bahhumbug> Oh, hi mercster.
01:03 < RedDingDawn_m> Hoy kusta kayo! Magadang gabi po.
01:12 < RedDingDawn_m> Whats a mercster?
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01:31 < RedDingDawn_m> If your referring mercster from twitter,
01:32 < RedDingDawn_m> Then I shartted myself... you jelly?
01:46 <@Evilpig> a mercster is a pain in the ass that likes to come in here from time to time and tell teh world how it os
01:46 <@Evilpig> is*
01:59 <@Bahhumbug> and, oddly enough, he's generally wrong.
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02:11 <@CNwaV> Look, you made him sad
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06:33 < NotLarry> I called comcast yesterday because my bill went up by arund 300% last month.  They talked me into dropping my data only plan for data and TV for $1/month less.  Wife thinks I'm the greatest, speedtest.net shows my throughput increased (weird cause I pay for less).
06:34 <@Evilpig> wtf
06:35 <@Evilpig> that's strange.  my data is $60 and my cable is $60
06:35 < NotLarry> of course I am on another 6 month intro plan, and in 6 months I'll have to do something different.
06:37 < NotLarry> Got up yesterday, car wouldn't go over 3krpm, truck oil light came on, comcast raised my cable, phone flash burned out taking my first picture
06:37 < NotLarry> People kept asking how I was doing but then kind of glazed over when I proceeded to tell them
06:39 <@Evilpig> wow
06:40 < NotLarry> car is going to be $300 in parts.  I am going to try to get it in the (my) garage later today and see if a little jb weld won't fix it.
06:41 < NotLarry> Also ording one sensor off of internet for $29 instead of $62
06:41 < NotLarry> Lets hope today is better.
06:42 <@Evilpig> at least you got a turkey yesterday
06:50 < NotLarry> I did finally get in.  I finished cooking about 2am.  I got up at 5 and deboned it.
06:50 < NotLarry> K, time to walk, be back in a little bi.
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09:15 < NotLarry> Ok, I know I'm a retard, but if the US controls TLD, can use DPI and can use treaty agreements to influence others, would SOPA not signal the end of the intarwebs?  I'm just seeing a lot of "we can make our own internet" and I'm thinking "in your head."
09:15 < NotLarry> I mean, if they are mucking with DNS, that is kind of like Dagmar having to work with retards right?
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10:56 <@Dagmar>  We can do cached cryptDNS and routing over ToR
10:56 <@Dagmar> ...and they can't fucking touch it.
10:56 <@Dagmar> It'll signal the end of the illusion that they can really control the intenet
10:58 <@Dagmar> Frankly, I think everyone who *actually runs* the internet should simply refuse
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11:50 <@VampirePenguin> hey all
11:50 <@VampirePenguin> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qTVfFmENgPU
11:50 <@VampirePenguin> major funny link
11:50 <@VampirePenguin> Double Exposure Canon v Nikon
11:51 < rangerz> NotLarry: sopa thankfully is starting to get bad buzz even on cable news, hopefully it won't end up passing, they already got it pushed back until next year in the house judicial
11:55 < NotLarry> You sure, last I heard it got pushed back to December 21st
11:56 < NotLarry> https://twitter.com/darrellissa
11:57 <@Dagmar> I also heard they were planning on continuing the deliberations next week.
11:58 <@Dagmar> Clearly the lobbyists want that thing passed... the lobbyists or someone(s) who plans on using it for something even more improper.
11:58 <@Dagmar> I'm not ruling out TLA interference.
12:02 < aestetix> wow
12:02 < aestetix> are you guys watching the trial?
12:02 < aestetix> er, the pretrial
12:02 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23Manning
12:05 <@Dagmar> Not sure it matters.  They're probably going to execute him
12:07 < aestetix> Well
12:07 < aestetix> This is why I'm slowly moving all my data to iceland
12:07 < aestetix> btw, you can email me aestetix@aestetix.com now
12:10 <@Dagmar> I trust you saw the wall of text I sent Google+
12:11 < aestetix> Nope, I should check it out, I guess.
12:11 <@Dagmar> I posted it onto FB.
12:12 <@Dagmar> Clearly, newspaper mentions from wayback and long-standing FB profiles _don't_ actually automatically do anything for them
12:12 < aestetix> Heh
12:12 < aestetix> You read my exchange, right?
12:14 <@Dagmar> Yep.
12:14 < aestetix> Hmm, let me see if Skud told me Calvins last name
12:14 <@Dagmar> They need to stop screwing around with the way they interpret their policy
12:15 <@Dagmar> Well, the main issue is that I clearly don't *need* to know Calvin's last name in order to interact with him.
12:16 <@Dagmar> This is about the selection of context.  I don't need to know Calvin's last name in this context, and he doesn't need to know anything about my driver's licence to interact with me.
12:16 <@Dagmar> They're basically declaring the context I use for identity to be invalid.
12:17 < aestetix> Calvin must be new.
12:18 < aestetix> But I do happen to have the names of everyone who was on the Google Plus support team when I got suspended
12:18 < aestetix> If you want to be a really annoying ant :)
12:18 <@Dagmar> Considering the current political climate, I'm not _about_ to let them force a contextual change for me.
12:18 < aestetix> See, Skud used to work for Google. She left over the Google Plus thing, but not before she gave me (and a few others) very useful information in case this shit happened :)
12:19 < aestetix> But yeah, for a company that claims to be transparent, they don't actually post their employees list anywhere
12:19 < aestetix> And it is particularly hard to get information about who works on Google plus
12:22 < aestetix> oh man, all the trans stuff is starting to come out
12:22 <@Dagmar> Clearly they value their anonymity.
12:23 < aestetix> trans wrt to manning
12:28 <@VampirePenguin> i have someomne i know fervently promoting exfoliate
12:28 <@VampirePenguin> i just jaugh..
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12:30 < eryc> i suspect one reason congress is so giggity about sopa is so they can suppress negative info aboout their political impropriety
12:31 <@VampirePenguin> they made laws about that years ago silencing people
12:31 <@VampirePenguin> and they try to do it to photographers and videographers
12:31 <@Dagmar> Almost certainly that's the reason it's being pushed so hard.
12:31 <@Dagmar> They want to use it to quell dissent.
12:32 <@VampirePenguin> so far i have seen numerous republican senator kick out forcefully videographers causing no trouble ESPECIAL if they were activists of any kind
12:33 <@VampirePenguin> isnt it official now the military can be used to apprehend "terroists" on mainland and islands
12:34 <@VampirePenguin> i havent watch it to see if it has passed
12:34 < aestetix> VampirePenguin: not until Obama signs it into law
12:34 < aestetix> The moment he does that, he's lost my vote.
12:34 <@VampirePenguin> to me that is going ot be the day the constitution dies
12:34 <@VampirePenguin> hes already lost mine and i have told him as much
12:34 < aestetix> Well
12:35 < aestetix> I want to see if he actually renegs on his promise
12:35 < aestetix> If he vetoes it, then he has a chance
12:35 < aestetix> http://mcphersonmedia.org/live-from-the-bradley-manning-birthday-rally/
12:35 < aestetix> I bet the military is loving this
12:36 < eryc> i bet they're taking down names for the indefinite detention list
12:36 <@VampirePenguin> ok... he didnt do anything wrong
12:37 <@VampirePenguin> hes just a scapegoat
12:37 <@VampirePenguin> it prob starts with no fly lists
12:37 <@VampirePenguin> i wonder if they arm tsa too
12:37 < eryc> where is schindler when we need him
12:38 <@VampirePenguin> aestetix, you know someone overseas for data store?
12:38 < eryc> we're now entering the third reich
12:38 < aestetix> VampirePenguin: sure
12:38 < aestetix> I'm migrating all my stuff to Green Qloud right now
12:38 < aestetix> they're hosted in Iceland
12:39 <@VampirePenguin> okay
12:39 < aestetix> If you're super paranoid, you might want to check out PRQ
12:39 < aestetix> They host wikileaks, piratebay, etc
12:39 <@VampirePenguin> im with john datastorageunit
12:39 <@VampirePenguin> most of my traffic now is ssl/tls/https
12:40 <@VampirePenguin> 2% is http
12:40 < aestetix> Are you looking for storage, or hosting?
12:40 <@VampirePenguin> storage
12:40 <@VampirePenguin> my offsite lives with dsu
12:40 < aestetix> Those are the places I know of. I'm sure ther eare more.
12:41 <@VampirePenguin> ya but its good with ppl you know
12:41 <@VampirePenguin> i value referrals
12:41 < eryc> thats a faulty policy
12:41 < eryc> example: the mob
12:42 <@VampirePenguin> its always trust butverify
12:42 <@VampirePenguin> then verfification fails, no trust
12:42 < aestetix> Well
12:43 < aestetix> I have two main motivations in using these places
12:43 <@VampirePenguin> out of usa jurisdiction
12:43 <@VampirePenguin> and freedom
12:43 < aestetix> 1. I no longer trust these companies to not hand over all my information to US law
12:43 < aestetix> 2. I have no faith they won't randomly shut down my access to it
12:43 <@VampirePenguin> true
12:44 <@VampirePenguin> pretty much my thinking
12:44 <@VampirePenguin> i dont even use usa repos
12:45 <@VampirePenguin> i just got mutt back up again
12:45 <@VampirePenguin> now i have a local copy
12:45 < eryc> lol
12:45 <@VampirePenguin> plus another offsite
12:45 < eryc> do you make all your ICs too
12:46 <@VampirePenguin> ive had to use a few emails for govt verification purposes
12:46 < aestetix> Basically, my thought is that if we make tools that allow people to use this nonUS stuff more easily, then more people will leave
12:46 < eryc> you do realize how easy it is to add hardware backdoors
12:46 < eryc> all your packets are offloaded to the nic
12:46 < eryc> think about that
12:47 <@VampirePenguin> anybody with a budget that is unlimited can do anything
12:47 <@VampirePenguin> im not going to make it easy
12:47 <@VampirePenguin> and hopefully not possible to secure my data
12:48 <@VampirePenguin> ive been keylogged once
12:48 <@VampirePenguin> till i caught on to screen flashes
12:48 < aestetix> eryc: well sure
12:48 < aestetix> eryc: at which point, it becomes a question not of tech, but of law
12:48 <@VampirePenguin> that was when the shots were being snapped for its files
12:49 < aestetix> Basically, the question is not whether LEO has your info
12:49 < aestetix> But whether you're aware of it
12:50 <@VampirePenguin> in my case because of certain life events im not surprised if im being watched, along with the people have to interface with and public comments i have made
12:51 <@VampirePenguin> a good hunk of that is stuff i sgned for hippa relases
12:51 < aestetix> Oh, I'm definitely being watched.
12:56  * rangerz watches aestetix
12:57  * aestetix starts taking off his shoes
12:57  * rangerz knows aestetix is lying because they don't have shoes/socks/pants on
12:57 < aestetix> rangerz: wanna smell my sock?
13:03 < eryc> winsock?
13:05 <@VampirePenguin> interesting sites aestetix
13:05 <@VampirePenguin> i wonder if i could rsync from where i am to there
13:10 <@VampirePenguin> daily dorkism... windows detects a keyboard error.... please press ENTER to continue
13:15 < eryc> ha
13:15 <@brimstone> i've seen bioses do that too
13:15 < eryc> yea me too
13:15 < eryc> no keyboard deteceted, press any key to continue
13:15 <@VampirePenguin> nixiepixel is funny
13:15 <@VampirePenguin> she a big gamer
13:16 <@VampirePenguin> and des some linux stuff
13:16 <@VampirePenguin> does
13:16 < eryc> is this some webcomic?
13:16 <@VampirePenguin> no
13:16 <@VampirePenguin> a db she made up
13:16 <@VampirePenguin> i dont know the source but there are some funny sayings
13:17 < eryc> oh, so a fortune file
13:17 <@VampirePenguin> probably, shes been talkin about some girls of geeks calendar for 2012
13:17 <@VampirePenguin> there are some nice "models"
13:17 < eryc> like h&m type models?
13:18 <@VampirePenguin> ?
13:18 < eryc> MY HUMOR IS LOST ON YOU
13:18 <@VampirePenguin> yes this time it is
13:18 <@VampirePenguin> it will hit me at midnite
13:18 < eryc> h&m got in trouble for using cgi models and pasting real faces on them
13:19 <@VampirePenguin> no this is real photos
13:19 <@VampirePenguin> they are all in their 20s
13:19 < eryc> lets see them
13:19 <@VampirePenguin> nixiepixel.com
13:20 < eryc> i dont like how she feels obligated to show cleavage
13:20 <@VampirePenguin> i dont think shes the conservative type anyway
13:20 < eryc> at least pick better boob shirts
13:21 <@VampirePenguin> write her your comments
13:21 < eryc> that shirt says, i feel obligated to show cleavage
13:21 < eryc> she needs to get a better haitcut too
13:25 < NotLarry> Ok, totally not related to anything but I was on the phone with comcast support (sounded indian) about 9:30 last night because my new digital receiver was not showing tv when the fucker turned off all by itself.  I screamed like a little girl and then heard the woman on the other side of the line chuckle.  Tech support perks eh?
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16:44 < eryc> news flash, your reciever is a unix box
17:34 < NotLarry> news flash, everything is unix
17:34 < NotLarry> that was an outright lie.
17:35 < NotLarry> I really doubt it is a unix box
17:35 < NotLarry> probably some version of linux
17:44 < rangerz> nope unix
17:44 < rangerz> SCO is suing them
17:45 < rangerz> linux has the compliant header files and API, so therefore it is unix, lol
17:49 < NotLarry> ok
17:49 < rangerz> actually... there is some lawsuit/(maybe another name) that is looking into that issue
17:50 < rangerz> if having a compliant API is copyright infringment
17:50 < rangerz> between oracle/google
18:36 <@Bahhumbug> wanna put a real crimp in all these ridiculous lawsuits?  Drag Larry Ellison and the Oracraple Board of Directors to the roof of the tallest building in the area and then chuck 'em off screaming, one by one.
18:53 < rangerz> nah
18:53 < rangerz> the problem with any corporation is that it is a "person 'my friend'(as romney would say)"
18:53 < rangerz> but they can't go to jail, they can't be killed
18:54 < rangerz> like the southpark wow ep quote, "how do you kill that which has no life"
18:54 < rangerz> all they would do is hire a new a-hole CEO/CIO/COO/<alphabet-soup>
18:55 < rangerz> one of the most simple way to fix the patent system is to allow peer-review (before?)/during/after submission of a patent
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20:21 <@Bahhumbug> that's not going to stop Ellison.
20:22 <@Bahhumbug> Making a big bloody mess on the ground after a fall of, say... 200 feet or so... would stop him.
21:21 <@Evilpig> that was.. uh... odd.   so I just watched "popper's penguins"  and it was horrible like I figured but what I didn't expect was vanilla ice in the credits
21:22 <@Evilpig> feltl ike I was back in high school again.  or was that middle?  what year did ice ice baby come out?
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