--- Log opened Wed Dec 07 00:00:46 2011
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00:15 <@Evilpig> whoever started this shpoonkle.com totally missed a marketing class
00:17 <@Evilpig> my only big complaint with the scifi christmas episodes this year is the same problem they had last year.  WTF with the warehouse being back?  did someone forget they blew it the fuck up in the last episode?
00:17 <@Evilpig> just like last year they had micah back in the warehouse after she had quit in the previous episode
00:19 <@brimstone> i wonder how far out of sync the christmas episode is with everything else
00:19 <@brimstone> like, when did they film it?
00:19 <@brimstone> is it even in the story line?
00:20 <@Evilpig> I dunno.  last years never really fit the story line at all
00:20 <@Evilpig> almost like it was just a standalone
00:23 <@brimstone> i'll get to this warehouse 13 tomorrow i suppose
00:23 <@brimstone> for now...
00:23  * brimstone / 0
00:23 <@Evilpig> heh
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01:08 < aestetix> www.noisetor.net
01:08 < aestetix> You guy should donate :)
01:16 <@Evilpig> i'm broke ass
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01:28 <@CNwaV> Hey
01:28 <@CNwaV> Hey
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01:28 < MinecraftRelay> (wilpig) hrmm?
01:29 <@CNwaV> Can I havr a popcicle
01:29 <@Evilpig> no
01:29 <@CNwaV> No
01:29 <@Evilpig> I think i'm gonna run out and get a shake though
01:30 <@CNwaV> Can I have another?
01:30 <@Evilpig> another what?
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01:30 <@CNwaV> On the left
01:31 < MinecraftRelay> (wilpig) another what on the left?  you make no sense.  are you drinking?
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01:31 < MinecraftRelay> (wilpig) smoking the pot?
01:31 <@CNwaV> No, he's on first
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01:33 < RedDingDawn_m> O/
01:33 <@CNwaV> Or wait, maybe he is the seventh prophet
01:34 < MinecraftRelay> (wilpig) shhhhh fake rockit
01:35 < RedDingDawn_m> Yea... Like I said.he stole my name
01:35 <@CNwaV> Have you seen his weiner yet?
01:36 < RedDingDawn_m> Its aaaaamazing
01:37 < MinecraftRelay> (wilpig) I did see it and was amazed.  but it wasn't amazed in a wow that's awesome kind of way
01:37 <@CNwaV> Subscribe pls
01:38 < RedDingDawn_m> Its worth.the 9.95 monthly sub
01:38 <@CNwaV> This entire conversation has been driven by a series of racist 70's movies
01:38 <@Evilpig> http://blueboy.wilpig.org/dynmap/#  I wish this would hurry up and render the spot i'm standing at
01:40 <@CNwaV> It's over there
01:40 < MinecraftRelay> (wilpig) dynmap render
01:40 < MinecraftRelay> (wilpig) forcing it to render the bits where I am standing while it's rendering the entire world in teh backg
01:40 < NotLarry> you can stop the render and tell it to render from wher eyou are
01:40 < RedDingDawn_m> Hey! Outs over here!
01:41 < MinecraftRelay> (wilpig) has to do the entire thing anyway.  no reason to stop it
01:41 <@CNwaV> The council disapproves
01:42 < RedDingDawn_m> Wow! I found some gooooollllddddf.
01:43 <@Evilpig> guess i'm gonna run out for a bit.  bbl
01:46 <@CNwaV> No, purple
01:48 <@CNwaV> Come back! I yearn for you
01:49 <@CNwaV> No, I will cut your face
01:49 <@CNwaV> You know me better, I dont smoke weed
01:49 <@CNwaV> Cause im out
01:50 < RedDingDawn_m> Damn.... Sucks 4 u
01:50 < NotLarry> your out?
01:50 < NotLarry> sorry, you're out?
01:50 < NotLarry> is that part of the don't ask don't tell?
01:56 < RedDingDawn_m> Yeaaa we got a sailer pagent goin on
01:56 <@CNwaV> Dont disparage my love like that
01:57 < RedDingDawn_m> Utes his love is "love"
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02:34 <@CNwaV> Charles is pooping out his face
02:43 <@CNwaV> We
02:43 <@CNwaV> I see the twelvefth hooker
02:48 <@CNwaV> Are we synched like when I was I in. your mom
02:48 <@CNwaV> Vaginas and buttholes
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03:11 <@CNwaV> I line to suck cock
03:13 < RedDingDawn_m> With butthole on the dick
03:13 <@CNwaV> In the second
03:14 < RedDingDawn_m> Yea riding it like cham
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03:53 <@Evilpig> maybe
03:53 <@Evilpig> why you wanna know?
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04:43 <@CNwaV> Hg jydjtstjzisjfnngjgxnxjxjfxjvz
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06:05 <@Bahhumbug> the amount of noise those two put out is just... craptacular.
06:05 <@Bahhumbug> I wonder if mercster cloned himself.
06:07 < aestetix> hey
06:07 < aestetix> http://www.ustream.tv/occupyoakland
06:07 < aestetix> raid happening in SF
07:04 < NotLarry> wtf, are they putting people on that bus?
07:21 < scr1bbles> read a report that they were jailing people without food/water all day on buses
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08:18 <@Dagmar> Can they even find *stupider* people to run their mouths near the stream?
08:20 <@Bahhumbug> I'll go out on a limb and say "yes".
08:23 < eryc> when does the beating start
08:24 <@Dagmar> Hopefully soon
08:25 <@Dagmar> I'd like to see this pompous ass and his dipshit girlie get a beat-down
08:26 <@Dagmar> I am thinking I might be working from home for the first part of this morning
08:26 <@Dagmar> Radar is all pink
08:29 < scr1bbles> fuck yea .10 android apps
08:57 <@brimstone> these are the same 10¢ apps as yesterday
08:57 <@brimstone> i want a refund
09:00  * Bahhumbug DCCs brimstone a quarter
09:00  * Bahhumbug bacons
09:03  * brimstone buys two more apps
09:03 <@brimstone> plus i have a nickel!
09:22 < NotLarry> ok, best joke I've ripped of in a while...
09:23 < NotLarry> "When I was your age sex education was a veiled warning about the janator."
09:31 <@benthemeek> not Larry have you seen the Techtonics MC map? an example: http://epsolon77.dyndns-server.com/
09:31 <@Dagmar> I am disappoint.
09:31 <@benthemeek> We switched to that not long ago
09:31 <@Dagmar> I thought it would be like Steam sales where they change them each day.
09:32 <@Dagmar> I already spent 20 cents.
09:32 <@Dagmar> Hell I got Minecraft PE and I have absolutely no intention of playing it
09:43 < eryc> anything good?
09:43 < eryc> is there a list somewhere?
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10:29 <@sasquatc4> looks like they just updated to the new set of 10cent apps today
10:30 <@Dagmar> WHOOPS
10:30 <@Dagmar> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2070977/Mythbusters-crew-shoots-cannonball-HOUSE-van-stunt-goes-terribly-wrong.html
10:30 <@Dagmar> hehehehhehehe
10:31 <@Dagmar> sasquatc4: Hmm.. Mine's still showing the same ones from yesterday
10:32 <@sasquatc4> i guess refresh or somethin, they got fruit ninja, beautiful widgets, reckless racing, a few others worth grabbing
10:32 <@Dagmar> sasquatc4: Paper Camera, Sketchbook Mobile, Soundhound, Minecraft, Swiftkey, etc
10:32 <@Dagmar> I see these things showing up in my desktop browser as well
10:33 <@Dagmar> I find it amusing that the ten cent apps are all in the top 5 paid apps now
10:36 <@sasquatc4> was tempted to just buy swiftkey yesterday so i didnt have to deal with the amazon store to update it
10:37 <@sasquatc4> if it wasnt for their occaisonal good free app of that day that store would be useless
10:43 <@Dagmar> Yeah I let the Amazon Store take a shot yesterday
10:43 <@Dagmar> It crashed, didn't do what I wanted... already gone
10:43 <@Dagmar> Their system doesn't appear to be able to filter out apps that aren't compatible
10:44 <@Dagmar> so the ten cent promo splash is gone...
10:44 <@Dagmar> ...but https://market.android.com/details?id=apps_timed_promotion is still showing yesterday's list
10:44 <@Dagmar> Does that link show you the new apps?
10:44 <@Dagmar> My guess is they've got something not updating right and they know it
10:45 <@Dagmar> The apps you mentioned definitely list for ten cents.
10:45 <@Dagmar> I'm almost certainly going to snag BW
10:47 <@sasquatc4> yea, that link works fine for me
10:48 <@sasquatc4> theres also star chart, flick golf, read it later
10:55 <@Dagmar> Damn this is irksome
10:56 <@Dagmar> I'm trying to fix this DVD ISO and somehow these fools made the thing take up more space once you copy the files out of it
10:56 <@Dagmar> I've recompressed everything that was gzipped with -9, replaced all the crapfiles from them trying to put symlinks on an ISO with actual symlinks, and the fucker's still too big
11:00 <@Dagmar> Time to dump some foriegn language files
11:23 <@CNwaV> herbals f*** it f*** hole hamster face not
12:06 <@Dagmar> LESS CRACK MOTHERFUCKER.
12:07 <@Dagmar> This is not #letsallactlikeschizophrenicvagrants
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13:59 <@Bahhumbug> Dagmar: could have fooled me.  Still think there is some Mercster floating around in them.
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14:13 <@benthemeek> What sthe deal with the gibberish CNwaV is spouting? is it code or something
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14:27 <@Bahhumbug> benthemeek: He's channeling Mercster.
14:28 <@Bahhumbug> Either that or he decided to see just how much peyote he could consume before death occurs.
14:31 <@benthemeek> I don't know of this Mercster :)
14:32 <@Bahhumbug> You are blessed.
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14:37 <@benthemeek> *sigh* about once a day here a work our comcast just starts dropping packets and then we fail over to winstream
14:37 <@benthemeek> we have replaced modems etc etc and they can't fix it
14:38 <@benthemeek> but I can't find 50 down 10 up for the same price elsewhre
14:38 <@Bahhumbug> it's quite unlikely to be a localized issue specific to your modem.
14:38 <@Bahhumbug> esp if this just started when the weather started to take a turn to the shit.
14:38 <@benthemeek> They supposedly have looked at the equpment at the curb as well and can't find a problem
14:38 <@benthemeek> no this has been an ongoing issue
14:39 <@benthemeek> I thought I was clever by putting a christmas lights timer on th emodem that reset it every night at midnight but now it goes down during the day too
14:39 <@benthemeek> blowing my 24 hour therory out of the water
14:41 <@Bahhumbug> I've got $20 that says your return signal drops out of tolerance.
14:41 <@Bahhumbug> And that is, more often than not, not a customer premises issue.
14:41 <@Bahhumbug> can you get to the management page of your modem?
14:42 <@Bahhumbug> (I no longer can, charter does not permit it on the SMC business modems for some unexplainable reason)
14:42 <@Bahhumbug> On the other hand, I've got stolen creds to their QA site :)
14:46 <@benthemeek> I can
14:46 <@benthemeek> What am I looking for?
14:47 <@Bahhumbug> there should be, somewhere, a lot.
14:47 <@Bahhumbug> if that thing is desyncing it will log the event, and the cause.
14:48 <@Bahhumbug> it will also, or at least should, show you the current running environment as far as forward / return signal quality, etc.
14:49 <@benthemeek> I have some number on the status page they just don't mean anything to me
14:49 <@Bahhumbug> unfortunately I don't know what comcrap's ideal signal ranges are for their stuff.  it quite likely differs from that used on charter's network.
14:49 <@Bahhumbug> the log viewer shed any light?
14:50 <@benthemeek> One sec
14:52 <@Bahhumbug> I'll be back in a while.  Need to yell at some people and put the fear of $deity in them
14:52 <@benthemeek> There is no log that I can see
14:52 <@benthemeek> its an smc business class. The only type they have as far as I know now
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14:57 <@Bahhumbug> 8014 Broadband Gateway?
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15:46 <@Catonic> bitches.
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16:23 <@Catonic> what's up people?
16:23 <@Catonic> #se2600, drama free since 2011.
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17:09 <@Evilpig> damn ben, you're paying them $190 a month for internet and settling for letting them not fixing that shit?
17:10 <@benthemeek> They don't care about our money
17:10 <@benthemeek> a modem reset usually brings it back up
17:10 <@benthemeek> so for now we are living with the outage
17:11 <@Evilpig> I'd raise hell.  I did raise hell when I was getting 10% packet loss
17:11 <@Evilpig> went through four techs, half a dozen calls to tech support, eventually got them out and they admitted the fault and fixed it
17:11 <@Evilpig> and i'm cheap and pay for the low tier
17:12 <@benthemeek> I think we have had 5 or  site visits at this point with two modems
17:12 <@benthemeek> they just tell me now you have too many computers behind the modem
17:12 <@benthemeek> (which is bullshit) they have no idea how many computers I have behind the firewall
17:12 <@benthemeek> I usually run at about 8 down except I spike here and there
17:14 <@Evilpig> are you running them all directly off that pos router of theirs or have your own router beind that?
17:14 <@benthemeek> They are behind a sonicwall
17:14 <@Evilpig> keep bitching at them.  eventually you'll get someone with a clue
17:14 <@benthemeek> I do have about 150 computers though again I only see 8 meg down or so on average
17:17 <@Evilpig> I see about 3meg usually.  well up.  the down is bursty
17:17 <@Evilpig> http://blueboy.wilpig.org/mrtg/127.0.0.1_eth0.html
18:48 <@Dagmar> I think I got that piece of crap "Business Objects" to work
18:48 <@Dagmar> ...after spending 3/4 of the damn day and half of yesterday fixing their insane ISO
19:45 <@Dagmar> Probably only of interest to server nerds http://deadmemes.net/2010/10/19/fear-and-loathing-in-debianubuntu-or-who-needs-etcmotd/
20:00 <@Evilpig> hehe business objects.  I had to work with that garbage when I was working for chemetals
20:01 <@Dagmar> Their installer is *insanely* broken
20:01 <@Dagmar> Someone apparently expected the symlinks pointing to shared libs to survive the conversion to ISO
20:02 <@Dagmar> ...so I have spent about 9 hours now coming through the damn thing, finding and fixing it so the binaries it ships with will actually run
20:02 <@Dagmar> Even the _uninstaller_ manages to fail because of a library used by Java not being magically in the directory they expect it to be
20:03 <@Dagmar> I rm -rf'd that shit to uninstall it so I could try again, because if it's already installed...
20:03 <@Dagmar> ...the damn thing asks you for the CMS Administrator password like this:
20:03 <@Dagmar> "Administrator password:*"
20:03 <@Evilpig> lol
20:04 <@Dagmar> So... they fucked up a simple input mechanism that results in a character that I have no idea what it being prepended to your input with no way to remove it
20:04 <@Evilpig> i'm sure you had all kinds of fun with that plus the oracle nonsense it pulls as well
20:04 <@Dagmar> CA is being *totally silent* on our request for assistance
20:04 <@Dagmar> Dicks.
20:05 <@Dagmar> They need to stop fucking around with the InstallAnywhere thing and just use a fucking package manager.
20:05 <@Dagmar> ANY goddamn package manager would do
20:06 <@Dagmar> They're just insanely insistent on writing their own code for everything
20:06 <@Dagmar> The first major fail came when I told it I wanted to use my own mysql server
20:06 <@Evilpig> rofl http://www.explosm.net/comics/2635/
20:06 <@Dagmar> Now, _sane_ people would just call mysql and ping the motherfucker to check the credentials you handed it, or not check the credentials at all and just tell you later when shit fails
20:06 <@Evilpig> it actually does use mysql now?  that's an option?  didn't used to be
20:06 <@Dagmar> These people?  Hell no.
20:07 <@Dagmar> They actually include their own insane-o little binary called dbcheck that requires half a dozen libraries where the fucking soname works because of symlinks that were brutally murdered when the thing was put into an ISO
20:07 <@Bahhumbug> This is some CA piece of shit?
20:07 <@Dagmar> It's a _given_ at that point that you'd goddamn have `mysql` around
20:07 <@Dagmar> Yes.
20:08 <@Dagmar> A piece of shit is exactly what it is
20:08 <@Bahhumbug> My condolences.
20:08 < ragechin> Dagmar: CA?
20:08 <@Dagmar> Computer Associates
20:08 <@Bahhumbug> Computer Associates
20:08 < ragechin> oh
20:08 < ragechin> them
20:08 <@Bahhumbug> A shithole among shitholes.
20:08  * ragechin goes back into the shadows
20:08 <@Bahhumbug> Isn't this the modern day version of UniCenter?
20:08 <@Dagmar> I mean damn.  How hard is it to have one asshole do a reasonably typical install and find out the shit is terribly, irretrievably broken
20:09 <@Dagmar> I dunno WTF it is
20:09 <@Dagmar> I know it makes some kind of reports
20:09 <@Bahhumbug> heh
20:09 <@Dagmar> I set up the other part of the thing having pretty much as close to no knowledge about the thing as you can have
20:45 < eryc> why are you running this at all
20:47 <@Dagmar> 'cuz engineers need it
20:48 <@Dagmar> Strangely, *sometimes* people expect you to let *other people* use computers for stuff
20:48 <@Dagmar> I swear I thought that damn package was going to break me tho
20:49 <@Dagmar> I am practically in full celebration mode over here because I got the damn thing to run it's installer
20:49 <@Dagmar> I had a *whole shot of sake*
20:50 <@Dagmar> ...which frankly isn't likely to repeat itself tho because the rest of it's all the way in the kitchen, and there's heating involved, and basically... too much work.
20:52 <@Bahhumbug> meh, easier to kick back and spark a fatty.
20:53 <@Dagmar> I can't roll a cigarette with a machine.
20:53 <@Dagmar> So... also too much trouble.
20:56 <@Dagmar> If you need a piece of paper folded with an edge that will cut people, I'm your man.
20:57 <@Dagmar> If you need someone to roll a joint that you can drive into a piece of wood with a hammer and is utterly and irretrievably impossible to smoke, I am also your guy.
20:59 <@Dagmar> Man these Beautiful Widgets people kill me
20:59 < eryc> i bought those widgets
20:59 <@Dagmar> They seem to be able to emit a negative amount of information about their theme format
20:59 <@brimstone> i got them free on amazon's store
20:59 < eryc> what software was it?
21:00 <@Dagmar> You look, they have what appears to be a sample configuration, but no...
21:00 < eryc> i thought you worked at a university
21:00 < eryc> don't you guys outsource engineering
21:02 <@Evilpig> not all 
21:02 < eryc> anything with Business Object and CMS sounds like a waste of time ot me
21:02 <@Evilpig> business objects is used by many large companies for internal and external reporting.  it's actually very good at slicing and dicing data
21:03 < eryc> there are lots of things that do that
21:03 < eryc> oh right thats what the sales guy told you
21:03 <@Evilpig> business objects will tie directly into excel and the like as well.  which I know other things will to
21:04 <@Bahhumbug> Dagmar: pipes/bongs/hookahs/vaporizers are all suitable alternatives
21:04 < eryc> i dont understand why you have so much "business data" in the first place
21:05 <@Evilpig> hospital + university = much data
21:05 <@Dagmar> IPv6 bones, gigglebit fiber interconnects, racks of disks....
21:05 < eryc> oh you do the hospital too
21:05 < eryc> yea nvm
21:05 < eryc> enjoy your biz objects!
21:06 < eryc> how many racks of disks?
21:06 < eryc> hitachi, pillar, emc?
21:06 <@Evilpig> we have storage arrays in four or five datacenters
21:06 < eryc> they really let you guys run loose
21:06 <@Evilpig> not really
21:07 <@Evilpig> the hospital and the university run mostly apart from each other.  then they like to keep things redundant, etc
21:07 < eryc> what do you guys use for storage?
21:07 <@Evilpig> disaster sites, redundant sites.  it all adds up.  just lots of reporting to be done
21:07 <@Evilpig> they have a mix of venders
21:08 < eryc> which one sucks the least
21:08 <@Evilpig> you gotta remember the university might buy stuff off of grants for projects that could be different from anyone else.
21:08 <@Evilpig> I don't know the specifics on which one is better than the rest.  dagmar might have somewhat of a clue on that
21:22 <@Dagmar> EMC?  Maybe?
21:22 <@Dagmar> They're quick enough with replacement drives
21:23 <@Dagmar> The responsiveness of the service contract is pretty much the only real factor
21:23 <@Dagmar> None of hte large vendors can really afford to screw up and start cutting corners that would end in customer data loss
21:24 <@Dagmar> So... if you spend piles of money, you will get disks in racks.
21:24 <@Dagmar> At that scale the shit you actually have sort of dictates a lot of things about how that disk interconnects to the rest of your shit
21:24 <@Dagmar> ...which is to say, fiber, fiber, and more fiber.
21:25 <@Dagmar> So it pretty much comes down to _when_ a disk fails, how quickly can you detect it, replace it, and restore the array to full functionality
21:25 <@Dagmar> There is no *end* to the number of bizarre-ass things the actual users will cause to happen
21:26 <@Dagmar> There, vendors aren't all that much help most of the time.
21:27 <@Dagmar> They *can* help, but it's generally a matter of sleuthing to discover that locally, say, one group of users was running 500 machines that were all writing simultaneously to a database on a share as a method of _contention resolution_
21:27 <@Dagmar> On a filesystem that is being incrementally backed up.
21:27 <@Dagmar> You did not misread that.
21:27 <@Dagmar> The users actually expected that 500 machines writing to one incrementally backed up file at once would be a good idea.
21:28 <@Dagmar> Computational theory, meet the reality of hardware limitations.
21:29 <@Dagmar> The vendor was able to tell us basically that *something* was making the system perform about a seventeen kajillion iops per second, but not why
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21:54 < eryc> haha
21:55 < eryc> netapp was really helpful to me
21:55 < eryc> i'm not too thrilled with emc
21:55 <@Dagmar> In theory the vendor can *help* but there's just no way they can be psychic enough to guess what looney shit people are up to
21:55 < eryc> they charge like %20 of the hardware cost for support
21:56 < eryc> so over 5 years you double your total cost
21:56 <@Evilpig> damn.  this 3d map is still generating. http://blueboy.wilpig.org/dynmap/
21:56 < eryc> its stable at least
21:56 <@Evilpig> it looks REALLY good though
21:57 <@Dagmar> That looks pretty 2D to me
21:57 < eryc> yea
21:57 <@Dagmar> definitely pretty tho
21:57 <@Evilpig> right side hit the iso view
21:57 <@Evilpig> the 2d render has stopped until the 3d is done
21:57 <@Evilpig> it labels it as "surface"
21:58 <@Dagmar> Oh NOW I remember why I went to where I did
21:58 <@Dagmar> Those reeds around the place I was working weren't really for farming
21:58 <@Dagmar> I was going for a marshy-look
21:58 <@Dagmar> ...so I went to a swamp to see how much of it I could bring back to flesh that out
21:59 <@Evilpig> I really like how the biome tinting is done on that
21:59 < eryc> oh and when those 5 years are done your hardware is EOL/EOS
21:59 <@Dagmar> It's a bit gloomy but you can definitely tell you're looking at a swamp
21:59 < eryc> and you're SOL
22:00 <@Dagmar> Argh.  This map shows me where I didn't smooth things enough tho
22:02 <@Dagmar> It doesn't seem to like drawing mushroom caps
22:02 <@Dagmar> Must be a bug
22:02 <@Dagmar> I'm pretty sure there are large brown mushrooms just north of the eggdome
22:02 <@Evilpig> could be.  I might need to get an updated version
22:03 <@Dagmar> All it shows are the stalks
22:03 <@Evilpig> it shows the shadows for the caps
22:03 <@Dagmar> I don't see any shadows
22:04 <@Dagmar> THe map I am looking at is a direct, overhead view
22:04 <@Evilpig> i'
22:04 <@Evilpig> m probably looking at a different spot
22:04 <@Dagmar> I'm talking like 30-50m N.  Still on the same landmass.
22:11 <@Evilpig> there is a new ver.  give me a bit gonna see about updating.
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22:19 <@Evilpig> hrmm the new version doesn't seem to be doing the mushrooms either.  
22:20 <@Evilpig> oh doh!
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22:20 <@Evilpig> would help if I updated the plugin as well as its underpinning
22:22 < MinecraftRelay> (wilpig) dynmap radiusrender 30 surface
22:23 <@Evilpig> that did it
22:23 <@Evilpig> just have to trigger a render again
22:23 <@Evilpig> see my position on the map now
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22:26 <@Evilpig> neat!  now it shows mobs in the area too
22:27 < rangerz> cool, just got my Diablo 3 beta access
22:27 < MinecraftRelay> (wilpig) you asshole
22:27 < MinecraftRelay> (wilpig) I still haven't gotten one
22:28 < rangerz> you should log into your https://us.battle.net account
22:28 < rangerz> and see if it is there
22:28 < rangerz> apparently sometimes notification emails are delayed by a lot
22:29 <@Evilpig> hrmm.  i'll check in a bit. s omethign here just broke
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22:30 <@Evilpig> clearing out all this stuff and redoing it. 
22:31 <@Evilpig> nope.  not in my account.  Diabli III "pre-download not yet available"
22:32 < rangerz> nice... 2.4mb download
22:32 < rangerz> must be my actual cap
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22:35 < rangerz> whats funny is my Vandy laptop is good enough to play it on medium settings or so
22:36 < rangerz> yay for discrete video card, lol
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22:53 < rangerz> ugh... my g/f is pissed I got my beta key before she did...
22:53 <@Dagmar> Someone just got the legendary on Skywall
22:53 <@Evilpig> I am too
22:54 <@Dagmar> I have the charger now at least.  Heh
22:54 <@Evilpig> it's ugly.  
22:54 <@Dagmar> I've been lazy and didn't click the button until after you mentioned that
22:54 <@Dagmar> I could care less about the charger
22:54 <@Evilpig> I have ridden it a few times and it was just kinda, bleh
22:54 <@Dagmar> Somewhat considering doing some money shuffling for the rocket, but that's sort of a long-term plan
22:55 <@Dagmar> The giant translucent dragon hovering over the cathedral was a bit of a shock
22:56 <@Dagmar> Some non-trivial levels of blue drakes flying over the city as well.  I was like "Wtf did I just zone into"
22:57 <@Evilpig> hrmm. the mob plugin isn't working now.  damnit
22:57 <@Dagmar> Looks like a space-goat dragon tho
22:57 <@Evilpig> wonder how I screwed that up
22:57 <@Dagmar> mob plugin?
22:59 <@Evilpig> I had it showing all the mobs onthe map for a few minutes
23:00 <@Evilpig> like where I was standing I saw a couple of creepers wandering around a spider and it showed my dogs.  and who the dog belonged to
23:03 <@Evilpig> i'll let it render again then try later.
23:04 <@Dagmar> Ah, now it's showing a different map, and I see you
23:05 <@Evilpig> i just dumped all the renderings to try the new dev build
23:05 <@Evilpig> it'll be churning for a while
23:06 <@Dagmar> Sweet crap I am way far from where I thought i was
23:07 <@Dagmar> Oh that's cute it snatches your skin to make the face icon
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23:09 <@Evilpig> I told it to
23:09 <@Evilpig> 23:09:26 [INFO] [dynmap] Full render of map 'flat' of 'world' in progress - 2600 tiles rendered (221.77 msec/tile, 175.64 msec per render)
23:09 <@Evilpig> try a /dynmap render
23:10 <@Evilpig> it should force it to render where you are standing.  but I might have to add the permissions 
23:10 < MinecraftRelay> (evilDagmar) Definitely don't have perms
23:10 < MinecraftRelay> (evilDagmar) LOL speech bubbles on the map
23:10 <@Evilpig> hrmm.  i'm not seeing them.  but I bet I have something cached from the previous version
23:11 < MinecraftRelay> (evilDagmar) Hello there, IP address
23:12 < rangerz> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/12/07/2015224/eff-asks-to-make-jailbreaking-legal-for-all-devices
23:12 < rangerz> great read if you missed it
23:13 < MinecraftRelay> (wilpig) LOL
23:13 < MinecraftRelay> (wilpig) cave spiders near you apparently
23:13 < MinecraftRelay> (evilDagmar) Probably so.  I'm cutting down at a 30 degree angle
23:13 < MinecraftRelay> (evilDagmar) I can hear 'em
23:14 < MinecraftRelay> (wilpig) dynmap status
23:16 <@Evilpig> rangerz: I thought they already made that legal?
23:24 < MinecraftRelay> (wilpig) holy crap!  click on me on the map
23:25 < MinecraftRelay> (evilDagmar) Doesn't look like anything happens
23:25 < MinecraftRelay> (wilpig) on the 2d map you should see a crapload of mobs around me
23:25 < MinecraftRelay> (evilDagmar) I see that on the iso map
23:25 < MinecraftRelay> (evilDagmar) I don't even wanna know how much is in the walls here, because I can *hear* them
23:25 < MinecraftRelay> (wilpig) that was all.  before I stepped outside there wasn't anything.  the second I hit the air BAM!
23:27 < MinecraftRelay> (evilDagmar) Score.  Found something
23:28 < rangerz> Evilpig: ONLY on cell phones
23:28 < rangerz> not tablets
23:28 < rangerz> or anything else
23:28 <@Evilpig> it should just apply across the board, imo.  
23:28 < rangerz> yeah it should
23:29 <@Evilpig> once you buy the hardware it should be considered yours to do with as you please
23:29 < rangerz> which is why the EFF is fighting for it
23:29 < rangerz> librarian of congress every 3 years decides what is legel
23:29 < rangerz> which in and of itself might be unconstitutional b/c she can take away rights (and has) by not continuing past rights
23:34 <@Evilpig> I do like this map thing.  very nifty indeed
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