--- Log opened Sat Dec 03 00:00:03 2011 00:05 -!- RedDingDawn_m [~yaaic@212.sub-174-252-165.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:13 <@ShadowHntr> the brits make some good crime dramas too 00:13 <@ShadowHntr> life on mars and ashes to ashes 00:15 <@ShadowHntr> and of course there's always doctor who 00:41 <@Evilpig> http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/mounted#c459 00:58 <@NotLarry> so, where is ben? 00:59 <@NotLarry> Anyone interested in playing a wow account for a while? 01:01 <@NotLarry> Would anyone in the nv2600 area be interested in assisting homeless during this holiday season? 01:09 <@NotLarry> can we have this? http://5z8.info/hot-older-goats.mov_c0o4zg_worm 01:19 <@Evilpig> I wouldn't mind helping out, but I am kinda strapped for time, at the moment 01:30 <@NotLarry> yeah, me too 01:30 <@NotLarry> I'll talk to the kids and reach out. 01:31 <@NotLarry> maybe send out something to the mailing list asking for volunteers 01:41 < RangerZ> NotLarry: how so? 01:42 < RangerZ> i know our local charities put up christmas trees with gifts that needy (sometimes homeless, etc) kids want 01:42 <@NotLarry> was thinking more alnog the lines of helping at food lines 01:43 < RangerZ> so you pick off a list from the tree and get the gifts and bring them back to the tree before the 20th or so 01:43 <@NotLarry> maybe canvasing for bedclothes, etc 01:43 <@NotLarry> money I din't have, time i can make. 01:48 < RangerZ> yeah 01:54 -!- sync350 [~sync@c-24-30-78-29.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:13 <@Dagmar> So apparently some dumb fuck in France decided to try and stress test a bunch of our servers tonight 02:13 <@Dagmar> 1 fell over. 02:14 <@Dagmar> Imma holler at Peter tomorrow, have him check his mail, and see if there's any interest in just plonking those fucks 02:23 <@Evilpig> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF7K5bsj7mk 02:27 <@NotLarry> That is one of the reasons why the young woman look in my truck to see if there is room depsite the fact that it is filled with teenage boys yelling "how much?" 02:37 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: you still up? 02:46 <@Dagmar> yes 02:46 <@Dagmar> Still pissed about the frog incursion 02:48 <@Dagmar> For me to finish teh bloody theme I'm going to have to start from scratch tho 02:48 <@Dagmar> wrong chan 02:57 -!- sync350 [~sync@c-24-30-78-29.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 03:20 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: do you know antyhing about dbdev-1? 03:21 <@Evilpig> supposed to move it to the test lab but it's on 03:24 <@Dagmar> Not a clue 03:44 -!- sync350 [~sync@c-24-30-78-29.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:17 <@Dagmar> Sending those pics of Kenon now 14:28 -!- ragechin [~ag@minivangi.net] has quit [Changing host] 14:28 -!- ragechin [~ag@unaffiliated/coder365] has joined #se2600 16:39 < RangerZ> Evilpig: just to let you know, I think i'm going to have to write your boss and ask for a letter of apology from you because you said you said something bad to me, despite me not remembering you saying something bad to me.... 16:39 < RangerZ> wow... just typing that out sounded convoluted as all hell 16:39 < ragechin> lol 16:44 < RangerZ> i can't believe a state gov'r was stupid enough to authorize his staff to do that 16:58 -!- sync350 [~sync@c-24-30-78-161.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 17:37 < RangerZ> oh goodie... that carrier IQ logs things before they hit SSL, because you _want_ your username/passwords logged ...ugh 17:53 -!- sync350 [~sync@c-24-30-78-161.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:00 -!- sync350 [~sync@c-24-30-78-161.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 18:14 <@Dagmar> Yeah I'm wondering how much lobbyist money is behind keeping that muffled. 18:15 <@Dagmar> People were going apeshit for months over Google while every engineer was just shrugging about it. 18:15 <@Dagmar> This time the engineers are saying "WTF" while legislators and the people who *should* be interested sit with their thumbs up their asses. 18:42 < RangerZ> honestly, i have no clue on the answer, but the issue is that our election system is so EF'd up right now because of money 18:42 < RangerZ> unlimited money being allowed to sway people's opinions... jesus.. thats just asking for trouble 18:44 <@Bahhumbug> meh, the election system is fucked up because the average American is a complete moron and is easily swayed. 18:44 < RangerZ> I understand the 1st amendment issues, but you can't scream fire in a theater , because of the loss of befit to society, and i'm starting to wonder if there is a balance that can be safely reached with political speech that is like that 18:44 <@Bahhumbug> We are a country of sheeple. 18:44 < RangerZ> come on, think about how easy it would be to get all your answers from one place (i'll use fox in this example) 18:45 < RangerZ> not having to think for yourself 18:45 < RangerZ> just taking other's words as gospel 18:45 <@Bahhumbug> Baaah 18:45 <@Bahhumbug> (or whatever sounds similar to a sheep's bleeting) 18:45 < RangerZ> but when you think about it, it must be so easy for those people 18:48 <@Bahhumbug> I still believe in this country; but part of me thinks that we as a nation _deserve_ the straits we are currently in - we _permitted_ things to get this bad because it's just easier to ignore the bad and illegal shit than it is to take a stand and demand reform. 18:48 <@Bahhumbug> starting with the lobbyist issues in DC. 18:49 < RangerZ> i think a lot of the issues are based around the old "progressive" and "conservative" view clashing , but not the way they are used now a days, but the real political science meanings of the words 18:49 <@Bahhumbug> legislature should not be driven by cash. 18:49 < RangerZ> if you think about it, i'm sure there are a ton of people who _hate_ how our society has been becoming more tolerant 18:49 <@Bahhumbug> there is no "progressive" or "conservative" party views any longer; haven't been for a couple decades or so. 18:50 <@Bahhumbug> both major parties are out to get whatever they can from fleecing the sheeple-based population. both are useless and should be run out of DC on a rail. 18:50 < RangerZ> the progressives have worked on social issues, and have made amazing progress there, but they left political/economics to the regressive-neo-cons 18:50 <@Bahhumbug> damn it - mutt needs out - brb 18:51 < RangerZ> k 18:54 < RangerZ> i don't know how to reach a good balance between limiting speech (political) and protecting the first amendment 18:55 < RangerZ> the only close idea i've seen is giving every person a 50$ voucher that they can split up any way they want, and donate it towards candidates they want 18:55 < RangerZ> and forbidding additional contributions other than that 18:55 < RangerZ> but then the issue is outside groups, now : 501c's or w/e they are classified as 18:55 < RangerZ> that are "issue" based, pro/anto-this/that 18:56 < RangerZ> how to allow those without letting $ influence things 18:57 < RangerZ> ohh...and get the F rid of electronic voting 18:58 < RangerZ> thank god, Ohio's 2nd largest democratic county went back to paper ballots, we don't need _another_ election where the results aren't know, but are likely all fucked up beyond belief, and where 2 people are still in jail over the 2004 election 18:59 < RangerZ> i just hope the rest of ohio, dem and rep areas do the same 18:59 <@Evilpig> why not just put an outright ban on political advertisements. use whatever government dollars to pre-empt network television for a night or two and host debates 18:59 <@Evilpig> the problem you'd have to dealw ith then is who got into the debate 19:00 < RangerZ> 1st am. issues 19:00 <@Bahhumbug> fuck that 19:00 <@Evilpig> right to free speech isn't getting stepped on that way. they are being allowed to talk just not try to sell themselves as this or that any other time than one specific window 19:00 <@Bahhumbug> spending 2 years and 999 gazillion dollars on advertising is not a 1st amendment issue 19:01 <@Evilpig> look at obama, the second he won the first election his people started campaigning for the next one 19:01 <@Evilpig> that is common now 19:01 <@Evilpig> and it shouldn't be 19:03 <@Bahhumbug> +43567804397538490589763434 19:03 <@Bahhumbug> you campaign for 2-3 years and actually do your job for ~ 1. 19:03 <@Bahhumbug> that's just fucked up. 19:06 <@Evilpig> really though, if we had a standardized time for candidates to speak, the country would tune in. if I knew I would have one or two times to hear the candidates vs 100's over the course of months I would make time for that 19:06 <@Evilpig> but how would you coordinate who could run and who got debate time in that format? that is a serious question 19:06 <@Bahhumbug> alas I fear you are not in the majority on that. 19:07 < RangerZ> a major issue is that we have a non-parlimentary system, with those, even the powers out of power, have people who are immediately able to take up the job, the problem with ours is we have pizza CEOs running who have _zero_ ability to lead a nation 19:08 < RangerZ> but that allows us to directly elect our head of state, which par. doesn't 19:08 < RangerZ> which has good and bad consequences 19:08 <@Bahhumbug> true 19:09 <@Evilpig> we aren't voting for the contingencies though. we're voting for the best case scenario of this guy I elect will be running the country. 19:09 <@Evilpig> and yes the problem is still there is unqualified people running that are just there because someone else is pulling their strings 19:09 <@Bahhumbug> there needs to be some type of vetting process for candidates. Cain? Trump? Palin? Bachman? Insert_name_of_other_nincompoop_here? Sorry, you're not qualified, fuck off. 19:10 <@Evilpig> if there was such a process you'd end up with someone able to run that would more than likely be so far detached from the rest of the country that he would have no business actually running it 19:11 <@Evilpig> which isn't all to dissimilar to what we have now, though 19:11 <@Evilpig> how do we get a government run by people that know what the rest of the country is thinking, that have the ability to make decisions for the country as a whole without getting disassociated from those they are representing 19:12 <@rhia> with the ones you listed having actually run as supposedly valid candidates, picking candidates as we pick juries would be just as effective - and possibly more so 19:21 <@Evilpig> I don't think a national lottery would be that bad of an idea for government service. the problem there is the current state of stupidity would win out 19:21 <@Evilpig> if we all had a sense of national pride and the ability, willingness to put aside our own personal gains for the betterment of the country that would work 19:21 <@Bahhumbug> americans, as a whole, are entitled, lazy, arrogant, and quite stupid. 19:21 <@Bahhumbug> until that is overcome everything else is a waste of time. 19:22 <@Evilpig> sad, but true 19:22 <@Bahhumbug> I forgot greedy. 19:40 < RangerZ> i'm not stupid 19:40 < RangerZ> the rest fits , but ehh 19:40 < RangerZ> lol 19:48 <@Evilpig> http://gizmodo.com/5864381/if-you-can-see-the-front-of-this-lg-tv-youll-see-its-3d 19:48 <@Evilpig> neat... how long til we learn that LG is watching us? 19:49 <@Bahhumbug> RangerZ: I was not necessarily including people in this channel as for the most part, at least those I've spoken with, or at least read conversations of, are not what I would consider stupid. 19:50 <@Evilpig> we're all ignorant on some topics, to think otherwise is stupid. ;) 19:52 < RangerZ> wasn't trying to imply you were, just trying to make a joke a little 19:52 -!- brookshi1e [mbrooks@hijacked.us] has joined #se2600 19:52 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brookshi1e] by ChanServ 19:52 <@Evilpig> god damnit! I have to fix a cable tonight. some halfwit needs his ass beaten for this. bbiab' 19:54 <@Bahhumbug> heh 19:56 -!- timoguin_ [timoguin@phneak.net] has joined #se2600 19:56 -!- Vyrus [~Vyrus001@209.159.137.115] has joined #se2600 19:57 -!- brookshire [mbrooks@hijacked.us] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:57 -!- Vyrus001 [~Vyrus001@209.159.137.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:57 -!- timoguin [timoguin@phneak.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:05 <@Evilpig> even with the perspective distorting things a bit I think you can clearly see one of these cables is twice as long as the rest. 20:06 <@Evilpig> http://i.imgur.com/GxXxQ.jpg 23:26 <@oddball> I love the internet sometimes. I couldn't find my DVD of a movie I wanted to watch, so I hit up bittorrent. 20 minutes later... showtime! 23:31 <@Evilpig> eh 23:31 <@Evilpig> heh 23:31 <@Evilpig> I did the same thing, but I may or may not have physical possession of said dvd 23:32 <@oddball> I'm fairly positive I have a physical copy. I also remember downloading at somepoint, but can't find that copy either. 23:34 <@Evilpig> on a side note, the kindle fire is creepy 23:35 <@Evilpig> pat got one and brought it in tonight. she had me take it out of the box and get it on the wifi. the second it got internets it knew it was hers and changed its name to patricia's kindle 23:35 <@oddball> I am fairly irritated by the flood of password protected files or files that require special software to play on the bittorrent sites lately. If I'm going to pay anyone, it's going to be the folks that actually made the movies. 23:35 <@Evilpig> lately? dude they've been doing that shit for years 23:35 <@oddball> That is kind of kreepy 23:35 <@oddball> er creepy 23:36 <@oddball> well, I've noticed a severe uptick in the number of ones that I stumble on looking for real copies. 23:37 <@oddball> I used to be pretty good if I was downloading a new to DVD movie and there were 1000+ people sharing it. Not so much now. 23:38 <@Evilpig> kat.ph I go based on the number of seeds then check the comments 23:38 <@Evilpig> those shit copies tend to not get seeded much 23:40 <@oddball> I've seen a bunch where there's 1000+ seeds lately. As for comments, I would, but I'm using my phone most of the time now. 23:40 <@oddball> I've learned that if there's only one file in the torrent, chances are it's bogus. 23:41 <@oddball> Oh, or if they've rar'd it. 23:41 <@Evilpig> sadly that is true. I've got a private tracker that I can invite you to if you want 23:41 <@Evilpig> all of those will be rar'd though. just how the scene releases are 23:42 <@oddball> hmmm... maybe 23:45 <@Dagmar> Argh 23:45 <@Dagmar> Silly Windows Ultimate 23:45 < RangerZ> though i am upset at the decline of the streaming sites for movies (or atleast the ones i used to use) 23:46 < RangerZ> often i just want to watch the movie once and not even bother DLing it, just buffering is fine 23:47 <@Evilpig> I like to watch movies when I lay down in themorning which usually means i fall asleep somewhere in the middle so I like to have it around to pick up where I nodded off 23:47 <@Dagmar> Anyone else annoyed that it's easier to RDP with Ubuntu than it is with Windows? 23:48 <@Evilpig> I use vnc so I scoff at your rdp troubles 23:48 <@Dagmar> Ubuntu's client is somehow _faster_ than the Windows one 23:48 <@Dagmar> ...and it'll save the password for you 23:49 <@Evilpig> you can save them in the rdp connection files for windows too 23:49 <@Evilpig> well you used to be able to. surely they didn't remove that 23:50 <@Dagmar> Whats' the point of having icons if i have to type shit 23:50 <@oddball> Yeah... I could do that under XP. 23:52 <@Dagmar> Oh, Evilpig... Keep your eyes peeled for an update to bukkit 23:52 <@Evilpig> k 23:52 <@Dagmar> That retarded mushroom bug is still going on. 23:52 <@Dagmar> The damn things will spread in whatever direction they want, irrespective of whether or not there's say... solid ground or a tree trunk there. 23:52 <@Dagmar> Including in mid-air 23:53 <@Dagmar> I know there's gotta be a way to do method overrides in Java that they're not going 23:53 <@Dagmar> er doing 23:56 < aestetix> so uh 23:56 <@Evilpig> 42 23:56 < aestetix> is there a website for occupy nashville? 23:56 <@Evilpig> not that I have heard of 23:56 < aestetix> I ask because I"m starting to think tech groups from the different occupy places should be talking together 23:56 < aestetix> occupy sf has had some hacking attempts, I'm guessing other places have too --- Log closed Sun Dec 04 00:00:03 2011