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01:00 <@NotLarry> ok CNwaV, if you think your going to use the youtubes you need to watch this quick tutorial first - http://5z8.info/orgy.avi_o2w8dg_back-to-africa
01:26 <@NotLarry> predestinated
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03:21 < aestetix> aww, that was cute
03:21 < aestetix> I was chatting with my software dev post-db replication
03:21 < aestetix> and suggested we set version control on the etc directory and config files
03:21 < aestetix> he thinks I'm brilliant now
03:30 < RangerZ> so the new AMD offerings are a "Factory of Sad" like Cleveland Browns stadium
03:35 < aestetix> ok, this is how to tell a client who doesn't pay to go fuck themselves
03:35 < aestetix> https://sqrtalk.com/
03:44 < RangerZ> nice
03:57 <@Catonic> oh jesus. why awake.
03:58 < aestetix> http://faculty.msb.edu/hasnasj/GTWebSite/MythWeb.htm
03:58 < aestetix> read this, it'll put you to sleep
03:59 <@Catonic> You haven't been keeping up with me.
03:59 <@Catonic> I read law for fun.
04:00 < aestetix> That must make all the girls drop their panties
04:00 <@Catonic> According to what my  friends tell me, that happens a lot in law schoo.
04:00 <@Catonic> *school
04:05 <@Catonic> "Between the lockers, isolated building, and now more than one student having had mono, it's official: law school IS high school revisited."
04:07 < RangerZ> apparently Akron State had an entire section of the library that was basically devoted to that, and for exhibitionists too, because people from 3 stories up could look down and watch, lol
04:08 <@Catonic> yeah, studies have proven that when there are more women, men get promiscious
04:09 < RangerZ> Catonic: follow http://www.groklaw.net/ then?
04:09 <@Catonic> basically, men are pigs, and turn into sluts.
04:09 <@Catonic> nah, I stick to my state constitution, statues, and cases.
04:10 < RangerZ> a lawyer then? or just for fun
04:10 <@Catonic> Alabama judges tend to write at a tenth grade level.
04:10 < RangerZ> well they tell you to write at a 9th grade level if you want your material to be comprehended (sadly)
04:10 <@Catonic> I know and understand almost everything about carrying a gun in the state of Alabama
04:11 < RangerZ> my friend had to find out a lot about that when he moved from OH to mobile
04:11 <@Catonic> one of my friends told me I had the calling to be a cop, would I answer it?
04:12 <@Catonic> The answer is ... no. I don't like taking orders, and I know too much about the responsibilities of the job to do it the "safe" way. I'm not going to infringe a right.
04:12 <@Catonic> AL's laws are weird, and screwy.
04:13 <@Catonic> but what they are not is typically verbose.
04:13 < RangerZ> i'm from MobTown USA, you can just as easily be a white knight police officer here, or so corrupt you make the rodney king beating look like a sunday afternoon date in the park
04:14 <@Catonic> ChiTown?
04:14 < MxZBot> chitown is trying to get one going, before the state makes it illegal
04:14 <@Catonic> jesus, it lives
04:14 < RangerZ> Youngstown town
04:14 <@Catonic> yeah, but back to it, ... I hate authority. I hate following orders.
04:15 < RangerZ> chicago had bigger names, but Ytown was car bomb capitol of the world at one point :(
04:15 < RangerZ> its why they invented the remote starter for cars, you didn't want to get a "youngstown tune up" on your car
04:16 <@Catonic> lol
04:17 < RangerZ> which is odd b/c our cleanest politicians in the state now come from here b/c they have delt with so much corruption that they kinda just laugh in the face of it now
04:17 < RangerZ> "man w/e... my 150k/year is plenty, it isn't worth your 30k bribe"
04:19 <@Catonic> nice
04:20 <@Catonic> I thought about running for the legislature, but my current employer won't support that.
04:20 < RangerZ> yeah, its a dichotomy city now, top 10 best places to have a startup , and #1 most impoverished city
04:20 <@Catonic> and my district is the one in the state that gave us a lesbian in the house, so ... not going to interfere with that.
04:21 <@Catonic> how do you keep people from walking off with anything that isn't nailed down?
04:21 <@Catonic> and yah, I think I heard that. Aren't y'all big into biotech?
04:21 < RangerZ> has a state university, but the city schools are some of the worst in the state (nation?) where the suburb just to the south (where i went to HS) is the best in the state and is listed as one of disney's recommended schools if you want your child to be a performer or artist, i mean... so extremes, lol
04:22 < RangerZ> not really biotech, but b2b software, and manufacturing
04:22 <@Catonic> wow. sounds like Birmingham vs Hoover & Mountain Brook
04:22 < RangerZ> this area in the 50s and 60s produced over 40% of the world's steel , just in these 2 conjoining valleys
04:23 <@Catonic> If you go the wrong place, you WILL get robbed if you let your situational awareness down.
04:23 < RangerZ> pretty much
04:23 < RangerZ> only way to get out of it, is to be driving a TOO nice care
04:23 < RangerZ> car*, they will think you are a drug dealer or something and leave you alone
04:25 <@Catonic> I used to love screwing around... I had a friend who lived at the edge of Ensley -- used to be a white milltown, now it's basically hood and main. but you have to drive past a private college to get there... it's like... one block in each directoin... awesome.
04:25 <@Catonic> beyond that block, ... well, you can get some awesome soul food.
04:25 <@Catonic> beyond that, after dark... traffic lights don't matter.
04:25 < RangerZ> these two guys i know had a brand new SUV with like 22" chrome rims, and then got lost in the projects... they were shitting themselves, the hood rats i knew of said it was funny, everyone left them alone b/c they figured it was some bigshot dealer scoping the area, LOL
04:26 < RangerZ> yeah, thats how Ytown is
04:27 < RangerZ> thankfully Ytown only has 70k population now, and the county is like 1 mil, so the suburbs kinda out-"city" the city
04:27 < RangerZ> ehh nvm, 1/4 mil, buts till
04:28 <@Catonic> yeah... we've got an area where $9k houses abound...
04:28 < RangerZ> yeah
04:28 <@Catonic> if you got cash, you can have a 5,000 sq ft house.
04:28 <@Catonic> but you'll put A/C, power, and water pipes back in it
04:29 < RangerZ> but, i am actually hopeful b/c a lot of innovation is actually occurring here to solve a lot of the problems , they are actually shutting down city blocks (where no one lives) and reclaiming the area for urban community farming
04:30 <@Catonic> basically, it's turned into a gentrified hood, where you have older black folks living next to lesbian and gay couples...
04:30 <@Catonic> which isn't that bad. But don't you be steppin'. Or they'll cut you....r hair.
04:30 < RangerZ> 6" below your hairline?
04:31 < RangerZ> lol
04:31 < RangerZ> but now... in nashville... ehh
04:32 <@Catonic> it's amazing. One street, every other house looks like the owner gives a shit. NExt street.... falling apart
04:32 <@Catonic> I used to joke about buying a house in northside, cutting a 1 foot hole in the living room floor, and throwing my beer cans in there
04:32 < RangerZ> i moved into an apt complex and the one guy was trying to be nice and "warning" me that this "wasn't the ritz" (i think he just wasn't used to living in a non-100% white area) lol
04:32 < RangerZ> i looked at him and laughed
04:33 <@Catonic> Yeah, I found out I'm one degree away from a neighbor, and he was a marine...
04:34 <@Catonic> He doesn't like guns, I have an arsenal. If some sort of Katrina thing happens and the looters come, we'll take the roof.
04:35 < RangerZ> lol
04:37 < RangerZ> i've been thinking about expanding, i only have a .17 rifle i've used for accuracy/learning/etc on, but the rounds are just too expensive, being rimfire, and not dirt cheap like a 22
04:37 <@Catonic> mosin nagant.
04:37 <@Catonic> http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinHumor.htm
04:38 <@Catonic> it's a weird, custom (Russian) caliber.
04:38 <@Catonic> typically cheap. Mine was $129. Bolt-action.
04:38 < RangerZ> been thinking about front loaded (potential deer hunting)
04:38 <@Catonic> Mil-surp, check it before you fire it, it could explode the first time
04:38 <@Catonic> boat-tail, softpoint, and so on exist for it
04:39 <@Catonic> they used the same round for machine guns, so there are AP and tracer rounds out there
04:40 <@Catonic> however, it's like a mule showed up in front of you and kicks you in the chest
04:40 < RangerZ> " muzzleloading rifle .38 caliber or larger;" is all the Oh regs on deer hunting say, so pretty wide open
04:40 < RangerZ> yeah, thats the thing i've gotten lazy with the .17,  you could fire the damn thing without even having the butt up against you
04:41 <@Catonic> ah, you're in one of those "we do weird things because deer hunting is so different "
04:41 <@Catonic> AL has some of that... the most effective way to kill is not allowed for hunting... because we want to bleed the animal out on the way down.
04:42 < RangerZ> we have 3 "seasons" 1 bow, 1 youth, and 1 shotgun and muzzle
04:43 <@Catonic> Bow, Black powder, rifle.
04:43 <@Catonic> I assume the last season is rifle and shotgun.
04:44 < RangerZ> think so
04:44 < RangerZ> dates aren't apparent, and i'm not too caring to search more right now, lol
04:46 <@Catonic> I look at it like... if I need to kill a deer, seasons won't matter.
04:50 < RangerZ> on your own property , you 'can' sorta
04:50 < RangerZ> i think with a bow
04:51 < RangerZ> most of ohio's are about hunting on public property
04:51 <@Catonic> If I need to kill a deer, it's going to be self-defense, or food. If it's food, I'm already in dire straits.
04:51 < RangerZ> my girl's dad goes into his back yard (70ac) and just hunts there for meat for the freezer
04:52 < RangerZ> but he gets the full liscence, etc so if he bags a big buck he can have him mounted
04:53 < RangerZ> i think below 10pt he doesn't even bother anymore (ohio's dear are silly big)
04:56 <@Catonic> yeah, AL's are big in the north, and smaller in the south
04:56 <@Catonic> 150+ isn't uncommon up north, but 75-90 is typical two counties north of mobile
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07:04 <@Evilpig> yeah I need to sign off wow now.  first run of the day, completed a timed bear run even with me kissing the dirt twice, came out 343gold richer after repairs
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07:51 <@Husky> awww yeah
08:07 <@Dickie> The bitches must be falling at your feet.
08:09 <@Husky> they do to me
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15:27 <@Catonic> sooo bored.
16:07 <@Evilpig> Corydon76-home: both shirts have been sent
16:08 <@Evilpig> that should eb the last of the open 15 business other than the invoices to francis
18:21 <@Evilpig> the new miniseries that scifi has made looks pretty good.  Neverland.
18:21 <@Evilpig> kinda like their take on alice in wonderland.
18:37 <@Corydon76-home> That word is always going to bring up images of a former child star pedophile.
18:41 <@Evilpig> only to our generation
18:41 <@Dagmar> Ah damn it I forgot to schedule that
18:42 <@Evilpig> http://www.syfy.com/neverland/
18:42 <@Dagmar> Oh it's not aired yet?  Cool
18:42 <@Evilpig> yeah dec 4 and 5
18:43 <@Evilpig> it does look pretty good. much better than all these cheap ass B movies they've been making
18:46 <@Evilpig> watching something right now called "grimm"  a little confused right now but kinda neat
18:50 <@Dagmar> I just set those to record
18:51 <@Dagmar> I really need to get on the stick abotu buying a gigabit switch
18:51 <@Dagmar> It's very irritated to be at work and copy a 3Gb file in about 20 seconds, and then come home where i'm not space-constrained by any measure, and that shit takes an hour
18:52 <@Dagmar> *oof* I forgot to start SW:TOR downloading last night
18:56 < rattleXw> It's likely not worse than half.  Most consumer HD's top off around 25Mbps.  Hence, a 200Mbit max transfer.  In practice, it's usually more like 10Mbps....  Guess you got good hardware.
18:56 <@Dagmar> Actually i have some of these drives raided striped
18:56 < rattleXw> Ah, there you go...
18:56 <@Dagmar> However, I have a _plain ethernet switch_ in the front room acting as a bottleneck
18:57 < rattleXw> When it comes to copy speed, it's almost always the storage.
18:57 <@Dagmar> i.e., that fucker is 10base-T.
18:57 <@Dagmar> Everything but the firewall has gig-e ports on it
18:58 < rattleXw> The vast majority of my infrastructure is 100m.  I get people complaining about transfer speed, clamoring for a gig port.  Then I show them a graph showing they've never pushed more than 80Mbit, ever.
18:58 < rattleXw> Then they want a MacPro, usually...
19:01 < rattleXw> I find peoples' lack of understanding of transfer rates frustrating sometimes, cuz that shit gets escalated to me from time to time.
19:02 < rattleXw> I wound up in this huge argument once with a video consultant about this.  He insisted in having FC run to certain workstations from our video SAN.  I was pushing for dedicated UTP 1000base, since that wouldn't require running several hundred feet of fiber..
19:03 < rattleXw> I picked battles and gave up.  Now I've got FC to offices that have since been moved, that never carried more than 250Mbit, ever.
19:05 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: how many ports are on that 10BT?
19:06 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: i.e. if it's small, there's a 100BT switch here I'd be willing to let you have
19:11 <@Dagmar> It doesn't even need as many as it has
19:12 <@Dagmar> It's only there so that I only have to run one cable through the wall into my study
19:12 <@Dagmar> 100bt switches I have.
19:12 <@Dagmar> I just need to get off my ass and replace the lot
19:17 < rattleXw> Dagmar: u r 31337, u wnt Juniper EX2200-C-12T-2G.
19:19 <@Dagmar> I would rather stick with slightly less intelligent devices that don't require me to do anything more than just stuff cables into them
19:21 < rattleXw> Seriously?  You don't want dual port LACP between your workstation and mythtv box so you can use netcat to send 1.7gb of /dev/zero across yer net?
19:21 <@Dagmar> Erm, no actually.
19:21 < rattleXw> I thought you were cooool.
19:22 <@Dagmar> Those are the things I use at work that are the reason I am getting irked with the 10base-T link between the front room (where the PVR and firewall is) and the study (where my desktops, AP, and NAS box are)
19:23 < rattleXw> Understood.  Just know that friends don't let friends by netgear.  So I'm telling you not to buy netgear.
19:23 <@Dagmar> The _sad_ thing is the mirrored pair is for my mp3s
19:23 <@Dagmar> Meh the wireless AP is netgear
19:23 < rattleXw> And may got have mercy on your soul if you ever decided to have more than 6 devices associated with it.
19:24 <@Dagmar> Meh it's four at most
19:24 <@Corydon76-home> Could be worse.  Could be Linksys.
19:24 <@Dagmar> The Xoom, a kiosk terminal I almost never use, my phone, and the Chumby
19:24 <@Dagmar> Oh and my netbook
19:24 < rattleXw> Corydon76-home: Hey, I have a certain amount of respect for them..  They operate the largest community free wifi network in the world.
19:25 < rattleXw> Oh, no..  Wait.
19:25 < rattleXw> Shit.
19:25 <@Dagmar> I would rather Linksys make nice with the lawyers so we can have leet drivers for dd-wrt
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19:25 <@Dagmar> Their availability is without question
19:25 <@Corydon76-home> They seem to sponsor one, though.
19:25 <@Dagmar> Just leaving Wigle running on the Xoom on the way home shows hundreds of fucking APs
19:26 <@Dagmar> A good dozen of them open, half of them Linksys
19:26 <@Corydon76-home> rattleXw: with openly accessible admin privileges, even
19:26 <@Dagmar> ...but there's a larger number of those lovely 2-wire units that are basically TELLING YOU THEIR FUCKING PASSWORD
19:27 <@Dagmar> This is why I've sort of decided to just start scanning for bluetooth instead
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19:27 <@Dagmar> If I had the netbook on the bike's stereo announcing every open AP, it would basiclaly never shut the fuck up
19:27 < rattleXw> Corydon76-home: Information wants to be free, man...
19:28 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: there is something to be said for randomly changing their AP SSID to "FBI SURVEILLANCE VAN"
19:28 < rattleXw> I don't think Ilsundal has configured anything else as an essid, ever.
19:28 <@Dagmar> Nah.  "I.C.E. Field Unit"
19:29 <@Corydon76-home> With the FBI theme, we may even get a young neo-Dagmar who will drop a few magnets into his box of disks and shake
19:30 < rattleXw> Dagmar already made it clear that his most prized data collection was a mass of mp3s.  If you wanted to scare Dag, you'd reference the RIAA...
19:31 < rattleXw> I'm sure that would work on many of us.
19:31 <@Corydon76-home> I'm referencing history
19:33 < rattleXw> Ok.  I'm out.  The debate is underway and nothing is blowing up.  Time to get home.
19:33 < rattleXw> ttyl
19:36 <@Dagmar> Ho ho ho
19:36 <@Dagmar> I have a lot of mp3s I'd like to protect becuase it took a FUCKTON OF TIME to rip, carefully tag, and properly archive my actual CDs
19:36 <@Dagmar> I think I have maybe 20 that aren't ripped at this point
19:37 <@Dagmar> If they wanna bitch about me space shifting my own shit, fuck 'em
19:37 <@Dagmar> No one makes 800 slot jukeboxers
19:38 <@Corydon76-home> btw, FCC just moved to block the ATT/T-Mobile merger
19:39 <@Corydon76-home> So that makes two govt agencies against it
19:45 <@Bahhumbug> grounds?
19:52 <@NotLarry> Evilpig: marco
19:53 <@Corydon76-home> Bahhumbug: not in the public interest.  FCC is involved because the merger would involve the transfer of wireless licenses
19:54  * Bahhumbug nods
19:54 <@Corydon76-home> Given that AT&T has said that the merger is all about the wireless spectrum, this is pretty much the nail in the coffin for the merger
19:57 <@Corydon76-home> I think for T-Mobile, this was a massively awesome strategy.  Since the merger will be blocked, they will get wireless spectrum out of the failed merger from AT&T
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23:02 <@Husky> http://i.imgur.com/7ztVY.jpg
23:02 <@Husky> if you're at work at this hour fuck you
23:02 <@Husky> nsfw
23:15 < RangerZ> wtf
23:20 <@NotLarry> ok, but let me slip out of this jumpsuit first.
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