--- Log opened Tue Nov 15 00:00:26 2011
00:10 <@Evilpig> http://www.explosm.net/comics/2610/
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00:38 < aestetix> ows is getting raided
00:38 < aestetix> http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
00:41 <@Evilpig> that's a stream of a stream?
00:50 <@Evilpig> what charge is nypd claiming now for this move on them?  unlawful gathering?
00:54 <@Dagmar> We have a problem.
00:55 <@Dagmar> NYCPD just rolled in some http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Range_Acoustic_Device units
00:55 <@Evilpig> that's a good way to incite a riot
00:56 <@Evilpig> if there are 20k people there they can't arrest them all.
00:56 <@oddball> Then they'll be able to charge people.
00:57 <@oddball> Doesn't mean they won't try.
00:57 <@Dagmar> The problem is that they're liable to start a stampede
00:58 < RangerZ> my friend was driving down a highway, the cops pulled over 20 cars that were travelling in  pack all at 80
00:58 <@Evilpig> that is a ballsy cop or set of cops
00:58 < RangerZ> mind you the first guy sped off, so the rest of the cars just kinda dispersed, lol
00:58 < rockettmahn>  thyats the cuty saying get iff mt lawn
00:59 < RangerZ> but police action against OWS is just going to have the reverse effect
00:59  * RangerZ points to oakland
01:00 <@Dagmar> Oh crap
01:00 < rockettmahn> it is...
01:00 <@oddball> Problem is that I'm convinced that cops are trained to react to situation they don't control by escalating it until they do/there's dead people to clean up.
01:01 < rockettmahn> Well dead people is a great deterent
01:01 < rockettmahn> then again im pkaying devils advocate
01:02 <@oddball> which often means that cops make things worse.
01:04 < RangerZ> the problem is the over-use of counter-force , the -white shirt- in NYC is a perfect example of that
01:05 < RangerZ> just randomly pepper spraying people
01:05 < aestetix> this one too
01:05 < aestetix> http://www.livestream.com/occupynyc
01:05 < RangerZ> compare that.... to the guy who broke like 8 bones from "tripping" after stabbing the marine ... then people laugh at the over-use of force
01:05 < aestetix> Dagmar: last I heard, the LRADs were not approved by NATO
01:06 < RangerZ> the difference is do 'we' as those reading it believe the force was justified
01:06 < rockettmahn> im sorry but i cant take the chat room seriously
01:06 < RangerZ> flashblock FTW
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01:07 < aestetix> from a friend
01:07 < aestetix> "Wow, closing the Brooklyn Bridge, stopping all lower Manhattan trains but the R, and closing airspace? FFS. #ows"
01:07 < rockettmahn> then again the feed jumped 1200 in the past 10 min
01:07 <@oddball> aestetix: NATO has no control over what local law enforcement can and cannot use
01:08 < aestetix> oddball: have the LRAD devices ever been used on american citizens?
01:08 < RangerZ> yes
01:08 <@oddball> I honestly don't know
01:08 <@Dagmar> Not that I'm aware of but there will be a shitstorm if they do it tonight
01:08 <@Evilpig> am I understanding what is going on right as they are ejecting all the hippies from the tent city they created?  
01:08 < RangerZ> in prisons that i know of
01:08 < RangerZ> that is where blackwater(whatever they changed their names to) tested it
01:08 <@oddball> Xi
01:09 <@oddball> I was unaware that Blackwater/Xi had prison contracts now.  That's outside their normal scope.
01:09 <@Dagmar> I do kinda wish the idiots would shut the fuck up with the incoherent yelling
01:10 <@oddball> but that's what idiot's do!
01:10 <@Evilpig> ^
01:10 < RangerZ> oddball: it was testing "non-lethal" weapons
01:10 <@oddball> ah
01:10 < RangerZ> was a big 60min(or something like it) piece on it
01:10 < RangerZ> remember we don't have a military anymore
01:10 < RangerZ> we have contractors
01:10 < RangerZ> :(
01:11 < RangerZ> well we 'do' have a military, but thats only to spend our money to train future contractors
01:13 < aestetix> http://www.wbai.org/
01:14 < aestetix> you can listen to the NYC radio station that's on wall street
01:14 < rockettmahn> Yea rangerz we dont ahvew a military no more... because you know i was in it...
01:14 < rockettmahn> so STFU about that shit
01:14 < RangerZ> hyperbole*
01:15 < RangerZ> and we are currently at the lowest % of american citizens serving in the military since before WW2
01:16 < RangerZ> i'm not blaming those _in_ the military, but our neo-conservative ideologs who decided to not have a draft for a war
01:16 < rockettmahn> for good rason
01:17 <@Dagmar> CNBC!
01:17 < RangerZ> i disagree
01:17 < aestetix> Shit
01:17 < aestetix> They're rolling out the LRAD
01:17 <@Evilpig> which war?  our war on terror?  bush's holy war?  our random we need to spend some money war?
01:17 < aestetix> http://t.co/kic96dv3
01:17 <@Dagmar> If they use it I'm pretty sure it'll show up on audio.  :)
01:18 <@Dagmar> Oh fuck
01:19 < RangerZ> i'm not in favor of those 'wars', but if you are going to do it, do it right, and send in a million men
01:19 <@Dagmar> What the fuck were those noises
01:19 < RangerZ> i dunno, the feeds died for me
01:20 <@Dagmar> Yeah there were some fairly loud booms just before then tho
01:20 <@Dagmar> This chick needs to shut THE FUCK up with the word "throwing"
01:22 < aestetix> I love how this is on every news site but CNN
01:23 <@Bahhumbug> Well, you _did_ say "news site".
01:23 < RangerZ> CNN just loops the feeds from like 11pm to 5am
01:24 <@Evilpig> I only get my news from fox.
01:24 <@Bahhumbug> RangerZ: that's when Wolf Blitzer sleeps.
01:24 < RangerZ> lol
01:25 <@Dagmar> Let's make this shit TREND
01:25 <@Dagmar> https://plus.google.com/111871911020322579096
01:25 <@Dagmar> Reshare that shit.
01:26 <@Bahhumbug> heh - Reuters is covering it.
01:29 <@Catonic> unreal
01:30 <@Catonic> I think the intent of this was something else... I think that the press will have pictures of a pile, which will be purported as the trash thrown out by OWS
01:32 < RangerZ> so what channel on comcast is covering this?
01:32 < RangerZ> *doesn't know the news channels*
01:33 <@Catonic> ... none of them?
01:34 < RangerZ> ohh i thought someone said some were
01:36 <@Catonic> Evilpig: Zucotti park is private property, and the company that owns it hasn't taken action against OWS at any point, or asked them to leave.
01:36 < RangerZ> yeah, thats what i thought
01:36 <@Catonic> So in effect, they have occupied private property, with or without the consent of the owner of that park.
01:36 < RangerZ> with
01:36 <@Evilpig> I'm just curious as to what reasoning they(nypd) is using to invade now.
01:37 < aestetix> Catonic: they've been there with the consent of the owner.
01:37 <@Catonic> But the owner of that park hasn't asked them to leave. In AL, he would be required to.
01:37 <@Catonic> And aestetix reinforces my point.
01:37 < aestetix> It will be interesting if Bloomberg decided to override that consent.
01:37 <@Catonic> aestetix: he has, several times already.
01:38 <@Catonic> This isn't George Wallace standing at the gymnasium door.
01:38 <@Catonic> This is outright despotism.
01:39 < RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ayxot9vQ_k that classic video
01:39 <@Catonic> I wish they'd get thier shit together on the stream. OTOH, they may have used illegal (against FCC rules) phone blockers to kill the signal.
01:40 <@Evilpig> I was wondering why they hadn't killed all the wireless signals in that area yet.
01:41 < RangerZ> yeah , me and my friend can't find an active feed anymore
01:42 <@Catonic> says feed down, but I've got video
01:42 <@Catonic> http://occupywallst.org/article/nypd-raiding-liberty-square/
01:42 <@Dagmar> Yes, they were rebroadcasting feeds
01:42 < rockettmahn> yea feed is down
01:42 <@Evilpig> http://www.ustream.tv/TheOther99
01:43 < rockettmahn> office depot!
01:44 < rockettmahn> Anyways. this makes feel somethinking that I havnt felt sometime... like when I was deployef
01:46 <@Catonic> Talk about perversion of laws.
01:46 <@Dagmar> http://occupywallst.org/article/nypd-raiding-liberty-square/
01:46 <@Dagmar> Figured I'd find the source stream eventually
01:47 < rockettmahn> http://www.ustream.tv/TheOther99
01:47 < rockettmahn> its good
01:48 < RangerZ> did you see the video of the marine who stared down ~20 NYPD?
01:48 < rockettmahn> looks of picture takers though
01:48 < RangerZ> @ rockettmahn^^
01:48 < RangerZ> telling them that this is not why he went to war, and that if they want to fight people to go enlist
01:49 < rockettmahn> ummm
01:50 < RangerZ> (telling the NYPD that)
01:51 <@Catonic> I saw the video... funny how one marine is a person they'll listen to, but other veterans who are smaller than them they'll can in the face with a tear gas can
01:52 <@Catonic> it's a broken argument...
01:53 <@Catonic> blah blah 1st amendment...
01:53 <@Catonic> read the NY state constitution... you only have those rights not reserved by the state
01:54 < RangerZ> yeah, but i'm hoping that a lot of this , is finally starting to get to the 'tipping point'
01:54 < RangerZ> which is a really good book by malcolm gladwell
01:54 < rockettmahn> What i get from this movement is that people are mad, about all sorts of things. and this is just outlet for such anger against "those who pull the strings"
01:55 <@Catonic> the police aren't handling any of it well
01:55 <@Dagmar> The police are making threats now
01:55 <@Catonic> anywhere... Birmingham, Portland, NYC, etc.
01:55 < rockettmahn> its 3 am... i wants to get to bed from beating people
01:55 <@Catonic> lol
01:55 < RangerZ> lol
01:55 <@Catonic> "I'm getting paid overtime to kick ass, let's kick ass and go home."
01:56 < rockettmahn> the one guy whos screaming yeah...
01:56 <@Catonic> christ almighty, this guy is zack de la rocha's little brother...
01:56 < rockettmahn> lol hes arguing against the camera man hardy har ahr
01:57 <@Catonic> which feed?
01:57 < rockettmahn> http://www.ustream.tv/TheOther99
01:58 <@Catonic> yeah
01:58 < rockettmahn> well his gone now
01:58 <@Catonic> no, there he is... he's rocking the crazy eyes
01:58 < rockettmahn> yea liek wehn im on coke
01:58 <@Catonic> LHS
01:59 < rockettmahn> krazy eyes
01:59 < RangerZ> worst part is the NYPD can't blue flu against this either, b/c they can't afford to lose/miss their work
01:59 <@Bahhumbug> dude, seriously.  typing is NOT that hard.  can you at least TRY and make some sense?
01:59 <@Catonic> they are getting overtime.
02:00 < rockettmahn> its is for me
02:00 <@Catonic> LHS? Left-Hand-Side
02:01 <@Catonic> apparently he's losing an argument with women.
02:01 <@Catonic> I have a penis. Argument fail.
02:01 <@Dagmar> They need to ignore the douchebag on TheOther99
02:01 <@Catonic> yeah
02:01 <@Catonic> hoodie or crazy?
02:01 <@Dagmar> They're also outsid ethe cordon
02:01 < rockettmahn> no no no thats the im BLAZED!!! and just here for lulz look
02:01 <@Dagmar> Both opf them.  No one gives a fuck what those guys think
02:02 <@Dagmar> http://www.livestream.com/occupynyc
02:02 <@Catonic> lol
02:02 <@Dagmar> THey are *inside* the cordon
02:02 <@Catonic> listen to da words dat ah comin outta my mouf
02:03 < rockettmahn> ohh so that were all the cops are
02:04 <@Dagmar> Even odds the cops dogpile the guy doing the streaming
02:05 < rockettmahn> ill take that bet
02:05 < rockettmahn> a copy of windows 3.1
02:05 <@Dagmar> ...and there's about 20,000 people watching that stream.
02:05 < rockettmahn> and climbing
02:05 < RangerZ> i'll bet a copy of mandrake 6.0
02:05 <@Dagmar> It's just a matter of finding out if the cops really are *that* stupid
02:05 <@Catonic> amazing, eh? Cutting edge as of PN6.
02:06 < rockettmahn> theyll do there job
02:06 <@Catonic> Dagmar: they will be. they are union.
02:06 <@Catonic> lol
02:06 <@Catonic> "when hipsters attack"
02:06 < RangerZ> i wonder if there is special 'police brutality of electronics' insurance
02:06 <@Catonic> no fucking way, not the hoses...
02:07 <@Dagmar> Times like this is pisses me off I've been lax in my stream piracy efforts
02:07 < rockettmahn> would be considered an accident?
02:07 < rockettmahn> "so there I was minding my own buisness when all of a sudden..."
02:09 <@Evilpig> surprise but secs?
02:09 <@Dagmar> Before tomorrow night is up I will damn well know how to record these streams tho
02:09 <@Evilpig> I can do it now if you really want
02:10 <@Evilpig> I have a new screen grabber
02:10 <@Evilpig> err nice
02:10 < rockettmahn> well the weekend is  4 days away
02:11 <@Catonic> it's sad how left this leans.
02:11 <@Catonic> "solidarity"... that's marxism/communism/democracy...
02:11 <@Evilpig> anytime you have something grabbing attention it isn't ever going to be middle of the road.  it will have to be extreme one way or the other 
02:12 < rockettmahn> well its sad that this is happening really.
02:12 < rockettmahn> for the pst 3 days they have been cracking down
02:12 <@Catonic> the real shame is the ignorance and misunderstanding of the constitution these people have... they are products of the public education system... sadly.
02:13 < rockettmahn> I think that 99% of them havnt read the actuall constitution
02:13 <@Catonic> 1 & 4 is as far as they got
02:14 <@Catonic> i hear fire engines
02:14 <@Catonic> this shit is about to get Alabama-style fries.
02:14 < rockettmahn> ohhh the fire hoses are being brough out?
02:14 <@Evilpig> I wanna see some bitches get hosed
02:14 <@Evilpig> that would make my night
02:14 <@Catonic> lol
02:14 < rockettmahn> at least this time it will be color photos
02:14 <@Evilpig> i'll be yelling "bath time hippies!"
02:15 <@Catonic> yes, let's cover the 60s and the 70s in one night
02:15 <@Dagmar> pretty sure the idea is to stop the cameras from rolling so they can come in and beat the shit out of whoever they like
02:16 <@Dagmar> cuz I think the cops know there are now twenty-two THOUSAND people watching them
02:16 < rockettmahn> So it appear that having 23K people in one channel = dumb shits typing (such as myself according to Bumhumbug)
02:16 < RangerZ> ohh thats good... they aren't letting CNN in
02:17 <@Dagmar> Uhhh... Just expand the video and push the chat off your screen.
02:17 <@Dagmar> It's a waste of bandwidth
02:17 < RangerZ> wouldn't want any of that silly 'evidence' floating around
02:17 <@Evilpig> I wanna see them lift those barriers up and just start pushing the cops back.
02:17 < RangerZ> pop it out
02:17 < RangerZ> and then just close it
02:17 < RangerZ> stops it from re-loading
02:19 <@Dagmar> Ooooh goodie goodie ther's people showing up outside with even more elaborate rigs
02:19 < rockettmahn> lol yes they stoped that stuipid chat
02:20 <@Evilpig> bunch of tone deaf fuckers too.
02:21 <@Evilpig> I bet the cops could dispearse this crowd with a bag of shiney nickles
02:21 <@Evilpig> or a bunch of bikes
02:21 <@Catonic> dimes. dimes weigh more
02:21 <@Dagmar> He soooo needs a string tripod
02:22 <@Evilpig> I'm willing to bet half of them are easily distracted by shiney objects
02:22 <@Dagmar> That may be so, but...
02:22 <@Dagmar> They're probably about to get an ass-beating for the constitution
02:22 < rockettmahn> or a nickle bag ;)
02:23 <@Dagmar> CBS is down there
02:24 < aestetix> Wow.
02:25 < aestetix> According to twitter
02:25 < aestetix> Residents near Zuccotti Park not being allowed out of building to watch; NYPD telling doormen to lock up, per reporter Melissa Russo. #OWS
02:25 <@Dagmar> They're trying to put the city on lockdown..
02:25 <@Dagmar> That's um, probably not going to work so well.
02:25 <@Catonic> sure it will...
02:25 <@Catonic> people are sheep
02:26 <@Catonic> just keep this in mind, whenever the next flood comes to your town
02:27 < aestetix> Dagmar: well, they've shut down all the trains that go downtown, and they've kicked out all the press.
02:27 <@Dagmar> The kicking the press out... That is a bad idea in the extreme
02:27 <@Catonic> CBS is still filming, or at least a guy in a CBS hat with a $30K minicam
02:28 <@Dagmar> I saw a guy from CNBC down there earlier
02:28 < aestetix> Dagmar: follow @quinnorton, among others
02:28 < aestetix> But yeah, basically all press has been kicked out, save for a few who have managed to sneak in
02:28 <@Catonic> I swear to god, they have every crazy guy there possible
02:28 <@Dagmar> "This user does not exist."
02:29 <@Catonic> anarchists, nihilists...
02:30 <@Dagmar> No, seriously
02:30 <@Dagmar> I think Twitter may have nuked that account
02:30 < aestetix> Also @JoshHarkinson
02:30 < aestetix> try @quinnnorton
02:30 <@Bahhumbug> NYPD has no legal right to tell doormen or anyone else for that matter to illegal detain residents.
02:31 <@Bahhumbug> err, illegally.
02:31 <@Dagmar> Ah
02:31 <@Catonic> well... they are peace officers...
02:31 <@Bahhumbug> which doesn't give them to right to direct a 3rd party to restrict someones access by locking a building egress point.
02:32 <@Catonic> well, they have to "maintain the peace"... but I'm with you there..
02:32 <@Dagmar> Oh ho!
02:32 <@Catonic> the problem is that -- in most places -- "the peace" is not defined.
02:32 <@Bahhumbug> not to mention that I will bet you green dollars that it's a violation of FDNY fire code.
02:32 <@Dagmar> Josh Harkinson is the guy we've been seeing in the hoody on occupynyc
02:32 <@Bahhumbug> and yeah, people are sheep.  which is why NYPD will get away with this.
02:32 < aestetix> Dagmar: he's one of the few reporters who snuck into the camp, he's twittering live from one of the tents
02:33 <@Dagmar> Yep.  His stream is out now
02:33 < aestetix> woah woah
02:34 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/#!/OccupyVancouver/status/136361029792833536
02:34 < aestetix> they claim the LRAD was used
02:34 <@Dagmar> Yeah I've seen that reported twice now
02:34 <@Catonic> twitter is taking it hard
02:34 <@Dagmar> ...but it all comes back to the guy on Occupy99
02:35 <@Dagmar> So... dunno how credible it is.  A number of people saw the units out there tho
02:35 < rockettmahn> LRAD?
02:35 < aestetix> rockettmahn: targeted sound gun
02:36 <@Dagmar> So umm...
02:36 <@Dagmar> I am actually pretty sure I know how to make something just as good, now that you mention it
02:36 < RangerZ> that or the microwave ones that makes the skin burn?
02:36 <@Dagmar> SRL used to make 'em
02:37 < aestetix> oh jesus this is the day I never thought would come
02:37 < RangerZ> man, i'd love to see some overhead satalite pics
02:37 < aestetix> the person who just confirmed the LRAD to me: weev
02:37 <@Catonic> it feels like thai peppers
02:38 < aestetix> http://yfrog.com/163yiz
02:38 <@Catonic> i know that name
02:38 < aestetix> wow this is fucked up
02:38 <@Dagmar> They've teargassed the people we were watching on occupynyc earlier and they've arrested tehm
02:38 <@Bahhumbug> NickServ [NickServ@services.]: weev has been frozen by the freenode administration.
02:38 <@Bahhumbug> :D
02:39 <@Dagmar> Seems like Josh is flirting with possible arrest
02:39 <@Catonic> aestetix: wasn't weev at hope?
02:39 < aestetix> Those people chained themeslves together and sat in a tent.
02:40 <@Bahhumbug> Is weev out of jail?
02:40 < aestetix> So the police saw them and threw teargas into the tent.
02:40 < RangerZ> and that does ...what... they _are_ chained
02:40 < RangerZ> lol
02:40 <@Dagmar> Oops.  Josh may be getting dragged out
02:41 <@Catonic> i want video of it
02:41 <@Catonic> i've gotta see blood running in the streets. give me dirty laundry.
02:41 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: apparently his terms were changed.
02:41 <@Catonic> so both streams are from outside, none on the inside?
02:42 <@Dagmar> The man on the inside is Josh Harkinson
02:42 <@Dagmar> He just got dragged off
02:43 <@Catonic> you got another stream dag?
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02:44 < RangerZ> should i know that name?
02:44 <@Dagmar> He writes for Mother Jones
02:44 < RangerZ> ok, so that is the one i know
02:44 <@Dagmar> He was also the guy you were seeing on globalrevolution and occupynyc
02:44 < aestetix> Wow. Police are cutting down trees in the park to remove protesters that were chained to them.
02:44 <@Dagmar> I was watching his Twitter, which has a picture of him
02:45 <@Catonic> so now the cops are damaging private property
02:46 < rockettmahn> unless thye had permission... For a NEW MALL!!! called Fredom mall!
02:46 <@Dagmar> Catonic: No, they already did that
02:46 <@Dagmar> Oh nice.  Tear gas on the stream now
02:46 <@Catonic> the other 99?
02:46 <@Dagmar> globalrevolution
02:46 <@Catonic> url?
02:47 <@Dagmar> http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
02:47 <@Dagmar> That guy has a number of different sources he's monitoring
02:47 <@Dagmar> putting in whatever one is up at the moment
02:47 <@Bahhumbug> wtf?  cutting down trees?  what could _possibly_ go wrong with that?
02:47 <@Dagmar> This is the one Josh was onhttp://www.livestream.com/occupynyc
02:51 <@Dagmar> HAHA
02:53 < RangerZ> http://12160.info/page/nypd-manhattan-precincts-1-23-and-citywide-1-3-live-scanner-audio?xg_source=shorten_twitter apparently this is a stream of the police scanner
02:53 < RangerZ> slow loading
02:54 <@Bahhumbug> gah - have to unblock *.info :(
02:54 <@Dagmar> I like the filler screen they keep using
02:55 <@Evilpig> time for more ice
02:55 <@Evilpig> maybe a quick wander upstairs too
02:56 <@Dagmar> Okay NOW we're seeing something
02:59 < RangerZ> man ... this is some shit
02:59 <@Bahhumbug> poor radioreference - they don't have the infra for something like this.
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02:59 <@CNwaV> Fook
02:59 < rockettmahn> you?
03:00 <@CNwaV> Score
03:00 < rockettmahn> Awesome!
03:01 < rockettmahn> http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
03:01 <@Catonic> lol
03:02 < RangerZ> http://www.ustream.tv/TheOther99 seems to be pretty good too
03:02 <@Dagmar> Dude needs to bitch at his little hipster friends who keep calling him and interrupting the stream
03:02 < rockettmahn> ohhh thats up again?
03:02 <@Dagmar> Holy shit he's got a nice battery there  lol
03:02 < RangerZ> yeah
03:02 < RangerZ> i wants me one
03:03 <@Dagmar> Yeah I'd say he's good until sunrise with that
03:03 <@Dagmar> Ummm.
03:03 <@Dagmar> WHat's livestream's capacity?  Anyone know?
03:03 <@Catonic> apparently a lot
03:04 <@Dagmar> Well, I keep seeing it go up to 25k+ and hten the site flakes
03:04 < aestetix> oh jesus
03:04 < aestetix> anonymous has already rooted the nypd
03:04 < aestetix> http://pastebin.com/Mgd8ggYk
03:04 <@Catonic> 100,000 retards trying to launch the shuttle
03:05 < rockettmahn> lol
03:06 <@Catonic> that's public into
03:06 <@Catonic> *info
03:07 < RangerZ> alright, i'm going to crash, story when i wake up aught to be intersting
03:07 <@Dagmar> Gotta guy confirming LRAD use on theother989
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03:09 <@Dagmar> er 99
03:09 <@Dagmar> ustream just geeked
03:10 <@Dagmar> NotLarry: Hey Warren, check it out.  The Revolution will not be televised.  The Revolution will be live-streamed.
03:10 <@Dagmar> http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
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03:15 < aestetix> oh wow
03:15 < aestetix> NYPD just got pwned
03:15 < aestetix> http://pastebin.com/u/doxcak3
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03:21 <@Dagmar> So...
03:21 <@Dagmar> Like 10,000 people or so there now
03:21 <@Dagmar> GOOD PLAN
03:21 < rockettmahn> yeA
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03:22 <@Dagmar> Now they have a BIG proble
03:22 <@Dagmar> m
03:22 < aestetix> Man.
03:22 < aestetix> This went from a small peaceful setting to a raging mob going through manhattan
03:22 < rockettmahn> I doubt it tomorrow will br mehhh they cleaned the park for the people, and now they can go back
03:23 <@Dagmar> rockettmahn: Umm... there's video of what the cops did
03:23 <@Dagmar> It wasn't cleaning
03:23 <@Dagmar> I, and about 20,000 other people _saw it streamed_
03:23 < rockettmahn> Who will take the time to watch it? I've got kids to take to school
03:24 <@Dagmar> I don't think you understand
03:24 < aestetix> The problem with trying to ban the press is that all these other people with cameras in their cell phones are recording it
03:24 <@Dagmar> 20,000 people _already saw it_
03:24 <@Dagmar> This is a dramatically different thing
03:24 < rockettmahn> I do understand dagmar. It was my job before beahahaha
03:24 < aestetix> Dagmar: as I said on twitter
03:24 < aestetix> "don't fuck with teh Internets"
03:25 <@Dagmar> There won't be any problem with people knowing what happened
03:25 < rockettmahn> propaganda / misinformation. It may have a headline on CNN and BBC tommorrow but after that it will go away
03:25 <@Dagmar> 20,000 people saw it.
03:26 <@Dagmar> You can't really put that genie back in the bottle
03:26 <@Catonic> right, but those 20,000 has to contact others...
03:26 < aestetix> Well, the big mistake they made
03:27 <@Dagmar> Yeah speaking of which I'm going to hit the sack so I can tell any of my coworkers what happened
03:27 < aestetix> Is that some of the people they arrested are reporters.
03:27 < aestetix> Who are going to go write stories about it.
03:27 <@Dagmar> Especially the reporters who got run off
03:27 < aestetix> Well, Quinn was there, among others.
03:27 < aestetix> She's doing all the coverage for Wired.
03:27 < rockettmahn> Who knows? All I want as a normal person is to know about Kim kardadhian and her breakup with her hubby
03:28 < aestetix> Besides the teargassing and brutalizing, the biggest mistake they made was banning the press.
03:28 <@Bahhumbug> And the innocent trees they slaughtered.
03:28 <@CNwaV> We need to get a better representation of educated people at the occupy protesys
03:29 <@CNwaV> Protests
03:29 < rockettmahn> You mean people that look liek they can be taken serously?
03:29 <@CNwaV> Yes
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03:29 < rockettmahn> nooo, i hear they got Micheal moore
03:29 < aestetix> If you fuck with a member of the press who's in the in crowd, other press people will make your life a living hell.
03:30 <@CNwaV>  I think the.press is trying to get arrested at this.point, it makes good news
03:30 < sync350> OWS?
03:30 <@CNwaV> Yuppets
03:31 < sync350> I'm a photojournalist for a university newspaper in Georgia, was covering occupy atlanta, got punched in the throat by APD, and our editor got arrested.
03:31 <@Catonic> the only place occupy hasn't been fucked with is phoenix...
03:31 <@Dagmar> Holy shit
03:31 <@Catonic> but they are guarded by the border militia.
03:31 < sync350> Editor from another college got arrested as well, and a photographer from Creative Loafing
03:32 <@Dagmar> Catonic: LOL
03:32 < rockettmahn> I hear that APD are nice and curtious people
03:32 < aestetix> Man, this is not going to end well for the NYPD.
03:32 < aestetix> Especially given that right before this happened, a second advisor for the mayor of Oakland resigned.
03:32 <@Dagmar> Yeah they're the guys walking around in camo with AK's saying "Yes, we're assisting in maintaining peaceable assembly while heavily armed.  What of it?"
03:33 < sync350> haha, rockettmahn, you must have heard that from an APD officer :P
03:33 <@Dagmar> FGucking hilarious
03:33 < rockettmahn> I hear stories. I hear you get a complimetnary pecan pie.
03:35 <@Dagmar> So, the mic check think is pretty fascinating
03:35 <@Evilpig> it was interesting to see it in person instead of just reading about it
03:36 < sync350> It's interesting to see in person.  I'd like to see it somewhere other than Atlanta though.  Atlanta keeps having this problem where homeless crackheads realize they can yell mic check, and then whatever they want.
03:36 < rockettmahn> WHAT!?!
03:36 < rockettmahn> OAKY!
03:37 <@Dagmar> Oh shit
03:37 < sync350> something about muhhamad ali brought down the twin towers because mother fucking tupac was in them.
03:37 <@Dagmar> DUde the NYPD *really* fucked up
03:37 <@Dagmar> Oh holy shit
03:37 < sync350> Dagmar: do you know if they ever ended up using that LRAD?
03:37 <@Dagmar> One of the people in the park was a city council member
03:37 < sync350> oh shit
03:37 <@Dagmar> ...and the cops beat the shit out of him
03:37 < rockettmahn> no
03:37 < sync350> they're fucked
03:38 <@Dagmar> http://www.observer.com/2011/11/breaking-nypd-begins-clearing-zucotti-park/
03:38 < sync350> damn
03:39 <@Dagmar> This people's mic thing is pretty cool
03:39 < aestetix> So one thing interests me a lot
03:39 < sync350> Here's some of the shots I got in Atlanta
03:39 < sync350> http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.2327748269429.2115872.1121340011&type=1&l=4df670a81e
03:39 < aestetix> I wonder if people are more likely to do something edgy or risky if they hear that people are watching them on twitter
03:41 < rockettmahn> Naturally people are
03:41 < rockettmahn> more prone to showboat when they have an adience
03:44 <@Catonic> those tards? you bet your ass.
03:44 < aestetix> I'm kind of curious whether those were all NYPD
03:44 < aestetix> Or whether they pulled similar tricks to Oakland
03:45 < rockettmahn> ?
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03:48 < aestetix> rockettmahn: the Oakland PD pulled in 16 other nearby police departments and interlaced the departments in the row so that when they attacked protesters, the NLG couldn't pinpoint which department attacked
03:49 <@Catonic> NLG?
03:50 < aestetix> National Lawyer's Guild
03:50 <@Evilpig> film that bitch right there
03:50 <@Evilpig> the one with the bandana.  she's up to something
03:51 < rockettmahn> ohh
03:52 <@Evilpig> lol.  these guys are fucking retarded
03:54 < aestetix> Uh.
03:55 < aestetix> Yeah. Park gets raided, all the protesters go smoke a bunch of weed, then they get paranoid, then they see the camera.
03:55 <@Evilpig> apparently there were several people draining the air out of the police vehicle tires and they didn't want to be filmed
03:56 < aestetix> lol
03:56 <@Evilpig> wtf?  he just went offline suddenly
03:56 < aestetix> his stream goes off the air while he's ranting about why it's going to stay online
03:56 <@Evilpig> "i'm not gonan stop.. *click*"
04:04 < aestetix> Wow, that was amazing
04:04 < aestetix> A girl mentioned her twitter feed on the stream, and said she had a video of police on it
04:04 < aestetix> Her twitter follower count went from 90 to 500 in like 10 seconds
04:05 <@Evilpig> cause she's a cute girl.
04:06 <@Catonic> lol
04:06 <@Catonic> amazing what a low BMI will do for ya
04:07 < aestetix> So another person just confirmed they used the LRAD
04:07 <@Catonic> that means it's ultrasonic
04:07 <@Catonic> or infrasonic.
04:11 <@Evilpig> did you just hear that low hum before the feed stopped?
04:11 < aestetix> yeah
04:11 < aestetix> barricade open
04:17 <@Catonic> song of the south. racism so tasty you have to torrent it
04:24 <@Catonic> mic check. mic check.
04:24 <@Catonic> mic check. mic check.
04:24 <@Catonic> mic check. mic check.
04:24 <@Catonic> testes 1 2 3
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04:36 <@Catonic> we. are. the 99% percentile
04:56 <@Evilpig> NotLarry: ping
05:12 <@Evilpig> I just saw one of my old schools on headline news
05:12 <@Evilpig> I am really weirded outnow
05:39 <@Catonic> what did they do?
05:39 <@Evilpig> was just some simple shout out to troops
05:39 <@Evilpig> but was just weird seeing one of my old schools on the national news.  a tiny tiny fucking school at that
05:44 <@Catonic> the part that trips me out is this girl I know that went to school up there.
05:44 <@Evilpig> up where?
05:45 <@Catonic> Pad-u
06:24 <@NotLarry> '/home/notlarry/.gvfs/fixor on campfire/video/Rush - Beyond The Lighted Stage/Rush - Beyond The Lighted Stage.mkv'
06:24 <@Evilpig> NotLarry: jump on communicator really fast
06:24 <@Evilpig> or go register an account http://phreaknic.info/forums/index.php
06:29 <@Evilpig> find that asshole with the horn and shove it up his ass
06:30 < MaxieZ> Morning.
06:30 <@Evilpig> http://www.ustream.tv/channel-popup/we-are-the-other-99
06:31 < MaxieZ> I follow 2600 and my twitter account was flooded this morning.
06:32 < MaxieZ> Turned on the news and their talking about Miley Cirus gaining weight and Justin Timberlake on a date.
06:33 <@Evilpig> was 2600 going on about the occupy stuff last night?
06:33 < MaxieZ> Yeah.
06:33 <@Evilpig> it was a big deal.  we were watching hte stream in here most of the night
06:36 < MaxieZ> What were you watching from?
06:37 <@Evilpig> two streams on livestream and that one there on ustream
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07:40 <@NotLarry> ok, other than the "etc" that I put in, anyone see anything wrong with this;
07:41 <@NotLarry> Nov 15 06:51:59 servername dhcpd: DHCPACK on etc.etc.etc.etc to etc:etc:etc:etc:etc:etc via eth1
07:41 <@NotLarry> Nov 15 07:31:07 servername kernel: imklog 4.2.0, log source = /proc/kmsg started.
08:00 <@Dagmar> Loooks fine
08:02 <@Bahhumbug> Mmmm.... Rush....
08:20 <@Evilpig> hotel is happy again.  internet is flowing
08:20 <@Evilpig> time for sleep
08:21 <@NotLarry> Dagmar: yeah, experienced a "random" reboot around 07:30.
08:26 <@NotLarry> 40 minutes without a log entry seemed a little sparse.
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08:47 <@NotLarry> Evilpig: you there still?
08:47 <@NotLarry> Evilpig: stop calling my wife
08:49 <@NotLarry> ok, I want to have reverse dns behind my firewall, so I can look at shit and not have to know that 10.2.2.666 is haydeez workstation, anyone know how I can do this?
08:49 <@NotLarry> s/shit/traffic
08:51 <@Evilpig> damnit NotLarry you know i have no idea which of your phones I am ever calling
08:51 <@Evilpig> at least this time itt wasn't kelly
08:52 <@Evilpig> sleeping now
09:05 <@brimstone> 10.2.2.666 isn't a valid ip anyway
09:10 <@NotLarry> brimstone: are you sure?  this is my internal network.
09:11 <@NotLarry> ok, lets say its 192.168.1.101 then.
09:25 <@Corydon76-home> NotLarry: quite simple.  You know how to configure forward DNS behind your firewall for starters?
09:26 <@Corydon76-home> Your zone for the above is "1.168.192.in-addr.arpa"
09:27 <@Corydon76-home> And then in the config file, you specify:  101 IN PTR haydeez.internal.
09:29 <@Corydon76-home> The ending period on the resolved name is very important.
09:29 <@NotLarry> yeah, I know, I did all that, it's not loading. I have the first line of the file wrong somehow
09:30 <@Corydon76-home> Pastebin it
09:30 <@NotLarry> the good news is the firewall rebooted because we lost power and I, being on my laptop, didn't notice:)
09:30 <@NotLarry> I would but it is gone, I sent it to nul and am starting over
09:40 <@NotLarry> http://pastebin.com/kFtSp0t1
09:41 <@NotLarry> really should put that firewall on the ups
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09:44 <@Dagmar> loool
09:47 <@Dagmar> Notlarry: @ IN SOA NAME.OF.YER.NAMESERVER CONTACT.EMAIL.ADDRESS. (
09:48 <@Dagmar> as in @ IN SOA ip-srv2.v.e noc.v.e (
09:48 <@Dagmar> No @, just a dot
09:48 <@Dagmar> SOA records, veddy important
09:50 <@NotLarry> get 'unknown option '.' when I check the config
09:51 <@Dagmar> from where
09:51 <@NotLarry> forgot that email thingy, damn, been a long time
09:51 <@Dagmar> You might wanna give those hostnames a domain while you're at it
09:52 <@NotLarry> yup.  lets see.  All I want is for the local firewall to be able to place a hostname instead of an ip in things like bandwidthd and such.
09:54 <@Dagmar> It needs the .not TLD
09:54 <@oddball> Oh, for those decrying Bloomberg's possible illegal orders from last night, I'd like to point out that he really should already be in jail for conspiracy of illegal gun purchases.
09:54 <@oddball> So the man has already demonstrated that he's above the law.
09:57 <@NotLarry> ok, nap time
10:07 <@Dagmar> Well, crap.
10:07 <@Dagmar> Restraining order or not, the police are *still* harasssing the OWS guys in Zucatti Park
10:09 <@Dagmar> "@quinnnorton: I'm thirsty and I need to pee.  #tmi"
10:09 <@Dagmar> lol
10:17 <@Dagmar> I feel like I should be offended that these FOPE "One of your users has been blocked" messages look like they were written by a six-year-old.
10:18 <@Dagmar> If you've got a problem with spear phishing coming from non-native speakers, it doesn't help when your *legit* mail makes use of commas as all-spice.
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12:15 <@CNwaV> Mfer
12:16 < rockettmahn> yes/
12:16 <@CNwaV> Watching bbt
12:17 < rockettmahn> bbt?
12:17 < rockettmahn> ohhh
12:18 <@CNwaV> Big bang theory
12:18 < rockettmahn> big bamg theory
12:18 < rockettmahn> sorry just woke up
12:18 < rockettmahn> yawn... sreach
12:18 <@CNwaV> Trying to recover
12:19 < rockettmahn> No jsut went to bed at 5, watching coupoious amounts of BSG, and failing in basic engrish
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15:49 < Rockplusit> Does anyone know where I can find metric rods, washers and nuts. With out going across the pond?
15:50 <@Evilpig> yar
15:50 <@Evilpig> nashville bolt and something
15:51 <@Evilpig> surely you can get them at lowes or home depot or something as well
15:51 < Rockplusit> Cool, apparently ohio lacks anything metric due to it not being patrotic
15:52 < Rockplusit> Home dopot am a lowes only carry SAE
15:53 <@Corydon76-home> Um, they carry metric here fine.  To the right of SAE
15:54 < Rockplusit> Must be an ohio thing. Cant wait for next friday. Leaving this awefi
15:54 < Rockplusit> Ull place for a montj
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15:56 <@Bahhumbug> Not carry metric is retarded.  "Patriotic" or not.
15:57 < Rockplusit> Pardon my even more bad typing. Using this phone makes it worst.
15:59 < Rockplusit> I know, I called 10  places today for them, and each one only carries SAE. I really do hate this place.
16:00 <@Bahhumbug> That's simply stupid.
16:00 <@Bahhumbug> I guess profit doesn't matter much to them.
16:01 <@Dagmar> Maybe try a motorcycle shop
16:01 <@Dagmar> ...or hell just call one
16:02 <@Dagmar> There's definitely bikes that are all metric and all imperial, and they're about 60/40 on the road
16:02 <@Dagmar> H-D being generally Imperial
16:02 <@Dagmar> Honda and all the rice rockets being metric as hell
16:04 < Rockplusit> Im building the prusa mendel... just need a few more parts but, they are extreamly hard to find locally.
16:05 <@Dagmar> Yeah and bike shops are going to be hostile to people building weird hardware.
16:05 <@Dagmar> Heh
16:06 <@Dagmar> That was sarcasm.
16:06 <@Dagmar> A bike shop would be a good place to call and ask
16:06 < Rockplusit> We dont like your kind around here.. Hehe
16:07 < Rockplusit> Ill try that out tomorrow, thanks for the advice
16:07 <@Dagmar> No, actually most bike shops I've found really aren't into the whole "Must be factory-perfect" thing
16:07 <@Dagmar> Something to do with getting to play with welding torches I think
16:08 <@Dagmar> Call one up, explain what you're building, and ask them what their local source is for metric bolts and washers
16:09 < Rockplusit> Will do... Now back to drinking away the fact that I live on ohio
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16:21 <@Dickie> What in the fucking fuck is wrong with your state?
16:22 <@Dickie> http://www.wtsp.com/news/national/article/220527/81/Lawmaker-no-Muslims-in-military
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17:30 <@sasquatc4> the scariest thing is those comments, i thought it might be half n half at worst, but holy crap
17:45 < RangerZ> i'm afraid of even clicking that link....
17:49 < RangerZ> why didn't they go after evangelical christians when the oklahoma city bomb went off... oh wait... b/c this is hypocrisy....
17:50 <@Bahhumbug> TN is full of closed-minded fucks like Womick that have absolutely no right to hold a public office.
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18:20 < RangerZ> http://features.peta.org/mario-kills-tanooki/?utm_campaign=Mario+Kills+Tanooki&utm_source=PETA+Pitch&utm_medium=Media this peta anti tanooki fur game is actually rather frustrating like the original mario
18:20 < RangerZ> lol
18:45 < RangerZ> oh thank god congresswoman giffords is able to talk to her constituents now
19:13 < RangerZ> nice... so cyanogenmod 7 is coming to 3 new phones (including moto triumph)
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21:19 <@CNwaV> Bbt on tbs... Interesting
21:19 <@Evilpig> been there for a while now
21:19 <@Evilpig> i'm watching legend on hbo family, myself
21:20 <@CNwaV> When is game of thrones coming back?
21:21 <@Evilpig> not sure.  the other one I was watching starts back in early dec or jan
21:22 <@CNwaV> I need to catch up on dexter
21:23 <@Evilpig> shameless.  that's the name of it
21:24 <@CNwaV> I havent heard of that one, what is it about?
21:25 <@Evilpig> it's a remake of a UK show.  broke ass dysfunctional family with an alcoholic father
21:25 <@Bahhumbug> shameless rocks
21:26 <@Bahhumbug> game of Thrones is back in... Feb?
21:26 <@CNwaV> Sounds familiar
21:26 <@Evilpig> I've checked out the showtime version vs the original and William H Macy is a much better drunk than the original.
21:26 <@Bahhumbug> Macy's a helluva actor.
21:26 <@Evilpig> he really is
21:26 <@CNwaV> Yeah, he was donnie the wiz kid, wasnt he?
21:27 <@Evilpig> the guy they had for the original was too young to have an adult daughter and he just came across as exagerating the drunk where as macy plays the perfect functional alchoholic
21:27 <@CNwaV> What was that movie called?
21:28 <@Evilpig> the google says magnolia
21:28 <@CNwaV> Yes, I was checking on imdb, but you beat me
21:29 <@CNwaV> Dick
21:29 <@Evilpig> why am I a dick?  cause my googlefu is faster than yours?
21:30 < RangerZ> i think genetics
21:30 < RangerZ> potentially upbringing
21:30 <@CNwaV> Thats what I get for using a tablet instead of a regular computer...
21:31 <@Evilpig> I wish I had an eye for color.  
21:31 <@CNwaV> Why is that?
21:31 < RangerZ> i have 2... problem is they are different colors
21:32 <@Evilpig> trying to make a phpbb theme for the phreaknic site
21:32 <@CNwaV> Oh, btw, final revision for the raspberry pi board is complete
21:33 <@CNwaV> Black white and yellow bitches, just like a bee and zebra got it on
21:34 < RangerZ> nice
21:35 < RangerZ> i was just on their site, didn't see that
21:35 <@Evilpig> http://phreaknic.info/forums  and set the theme to phreaknic if you want to see what I am working on
21:35 < RangerZ> thinking of getting a couple for my own playing
21:35 < RangerZ> wanna see if i can get android to run on it
21:35 < RangerZ> its slower than the G1 was, so it shouldn't be too bad
21:36 < RangerZ> and CM6 made the g1 run pretty good
21:36 <@CNwaV> I think you have to reg to change the theme..
21:36 <@Evilpig> yu
21:36 <@Evilpig> yup
21:37 <@Evilpig> after i'm done i'll set it as teh default theme
21:40 <@CNwaV> Email isnt showing to forum name
21:40 <@CNwaV> In case you didnt know
21:40 < RangerZ> oh god phpbb
21:40 <@Evilpig> I think I have the forum name empty right now
21:41 <@Evilpig> I'll put it back in after I edit the template and take it out of a few places
21:41 < RangerZ> just disable people from using avatars, or storing any pics
21:41 < RangerZ> thats the most used attack vector for that
21:42 <@Bahhumbug> phpbb is a vector.
21:42 <@Bahhumbug> POS
21:43 <@Evilpig> it really is
21:43 <@Evilpig> but it's simple.  and I have it isolated from the rest of the stuff
21:43 <@Bahhumbug> I mvoed off that roaring garbage years ago to SMF and have been happy since.
21:44 <@CNwaV> I like the theme
21:44 <@Evilpig> still doing colors.  then i'll get to work on an icon set
21:45 < RangerZ> for just content posting, i've been happy with wordpress, but haven't found a forum i like
21:45 <@Evilpig> had a few people ask for a way to facilitate room / ride sharing this year.  
21:45 <@CNwaV> Yes, good idea
21:45 <@Evilpig> I am against a different forum for every fucking thing you do but whatever. if they want it, i'll do it
21:48 <@CNwaV> I think it will help with generating more interest in the contests and stuff
21:50 <@Evilpig> http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=1883675&hilit=facebook
21:50 < RangerZ> Evilpig: on the next scavenger hunt you should put "the phone number of the cute girl who works where Evilpig goes and eats"
21:50 <@Evilpig> this should make it easier
21:51 <@Evilpig> ha.  good luck on anyone figuring that out.  I eat all over town.
21:51 < RangerZ> i'd get it
21:51 < RangerZ> and you wouldn't be upset
21:51 < RangerZ> lol
21:51 <@CNwaV> Next year, single female needs to be on the list :D
21:51 <@Evilpig> i've got her number already
21:52 <@Evilpig> "bring a single female to wilpig"
22:06 <@NotLarry> bring two or three to notlarry, they break easy.
22:07 <@NotLarry> I bet I can get her to go out with him.
22:07 <@NotLarry> http://www.goofoffstainremover.com takes off duct tape adhesive
22:20 <@Evilpig> NotLarry: which girl?
22:24 <@Evilpig> merlin just sent me a picture of a beer tap of something called "naked pig"
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23:53 <@Evilpig> I need a wheel of blame for this place
23:53 <@Evilpig> host down - call windows
23:54 <@Evilpig> windows says: not me must be a nagios error
23:54 <@Evilpig> unix says: can't tell.  only thing strange is ldap timing out and acting generally slow call idev
23:54 <@Evilpig> idev says: ldap?  not me call directory services
23:55 <@Evilpig> directory services says:  ldap is fine. login was taking too long. begins to blame everyone else 
23:56 <@Evilpig> meanwhile students can't log into email via gmail connector because the ldap isn't responding correctly.  going on over an hour now
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