--- Log opened Mon Oct 31 00:00:58 2011
00:04 <@Evilpig> ascii?!  I hate one of you people 
01:07 <@Dagmar> I feel stupid about filing this change
01:12 <@Dagmar> This is such a minor thing, but man I'd love to see Dan Raymer's face when he hears
01:12 <@Dagmar> It's facepalm city
01:21 < CNwaV> ?
03:05 <@aestetix_> what up yo
03:33 < CNwaV> Not much... Taking a smoke break from battlefield 3
04:06 < RangerZ> so i _hate_ the dining philosophers problem...
04:06 < RangerZ> like the 4th class i've had where it has shown up
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04:26 <@Dagmar> Fucking Comcast
04:52 < CNwaV> Afgh cn sh d
04:55 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: I saw dan raymer's face just last night actually
04:56 <@Evilpig> I may have to run out to cool springs mall this morning.  heh
04:56 <@Evilpig> had this idea earlier that notlarry told me is a definite no and to quit fucking with trevor
05:06 < CNwaV> Tisk tisk
05:07 <@Evilpig> wha?  I thought it was fantastic.  apparently I angered the bear and was chastized for it.
05:09 <@Evilpig> back to badge making.  we cranked out another 100+ tonight in less than half the time.
05:10 <@Evilpig> I was thinking after phreaknic is over i'd make the badge template really available on the website and let people create their own badges.
05:10 <@Evilpig> I think I can do it relatively easily
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05:12 <@Evilpig> morning hugme
05:40 <@Evilpig> CNwaV: did you not want a custom image on your badge?
05:49 < CNwaV> Oh, crap, did I forget to upload one?
05:51 < CNwaV> Can I still upload, should I email it? Or is it too late?
05:52 <@Evilpig> either.  
05:52 <@Evilpig> I'm still working through the custom image ones and noticed you didn't have one.  i'll start on the custom name only badges shortly
05:52 <@Evilpig> brimstone: ^
05:54 < CNwaV> Send me your email address, I will send two pics, pick whichever looks better on the badge
05:57 <@Evilpig> vp@nashville2600.org
06:08 < CNwaV> Sent... I would prefer the nvg one if it will look ok
06:09 < CNwaV> Thanks, btw
06:09 < CNwaV> Man.. I need to sleep...
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06:09 <@Evilpig> k.  i'll make whatever work.  looking for another picture right now
06:10 <@Evilpig> missing a memory stick
06:14 <@the_hugme> morning
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08:17 <@aestetix_> how's it going
08:25 <@Dagmar> Considering calling Comcast before I go to work this morning
08:25 < ware> :D
08:25 <@Dagmar> It's looking like their new chnanel change has has a secondary effect
08:26 <@Dagmar> I can't change to any 1xxx channels using the firewire control.
08:26 <@Dagmar> ....which is basically all of the ones I care about now.
08:26 <@aestetix_> ware: you're coming to my talk right?
08:28 < ware> if its at SDC
08:28 < ware> im not getting a badge for PN but ima come over to hang out
08:28 <@aestetix_> cool
08:28 <@aestetix_> I mean cool that you're at least coming over to hang out
08:29 < ware> aye
08:29 <@aestetix_> I will be ripping pretty hard into google
08:29 <@aestetix_> But they did fuck up pretty badly
08:29 < ware> sweeet
08:30 <@Dagmar> I don't know if I'm going to file a complaint with the FCC or just tell Comcast to cancel my fucking cable service today
08:30 <@Dagmar> So sick of their shit
08:31 <@aestetix_> god
08:31 <@aestetix_> nissan.com has such a shitty website
08:31 <@aestetix_> I'm all for freedom of speech, but ugh
08:47 < ware> lulz
09:26 < rangerz1> hey... if they really have been using that name for 20+ years... they built that site when they founded the company
09:26 < rangerz1> must be amazing uptime, viruses/hacks don't even archive exploits that old
09:27 <@Evilpig> I had a very interesting chat with metro last night. ;)
09:30 < rangerz1> i'm hoping that is someone's handle
09:30 < rangerz1> else you are just getting drunk and talking to the busses again
09:30 <@Evilpig> nope.  the random people you run into at 2 in the morning
09:31 <@Evilpig> they have an insight into laws that I didn
09:31 <@Evilpig> t understand
09:31 < rangerz1> namely tresspassing?
09:31 <@Evilpig> nope.  I was buying a dr pepper for me and a diet coke for notlarry
09:32 <@Evilpig> is that cryptic enough?  lol
09:32 <@Evilpig> had a DJ contact me about playing at PN too.
09:36 < nachoguy_> hey, it's not too late to prereg for pn, right?
09:41 <@Evilpig> nope
09:42 <@Evilpig> cut off is wedneday night.  I think.  I'd have to checkto be sure on when we set that.  down to the wire for custom badges though.  who am I kidding.  i'm sure thursday night i'll end up having to print a few still
09:42 < nachoguy_> yeah.  Wasn't sure I was going to make it until Late last week
09:42 < nachoguy_> bust sounds good, I'll get it sorted some point today
09:42 < nachoguy_> s/bust/but/
09:43 <@Evilpig> it's all good.  stuff is planned, speakers confirmed,  been training the attack dogs with ware's picture all weekend
09:44 < ware> ITS ALL GOOD
09:44  * ware pee's on Evilpig's leg
09:44  * Evilpig rubs meat on ware's neck
09:45 < ware> man meat?
09:45 < ware> grrooossssssssss
09:45 <@Evilpig> well it's raw.  but not man.
09:45 < ware> you got any hacks for 3DS?
09:45 < ware> i got one this weekend
09:45 <@Evilpig> just the usual r4 
09:45 <@Evilpig> go download the zelda thing from the store for free
09:46 <@Evilpig> zelda: 4 swords anniversary edition
09:46 < ware> oh word
09:46 <@Evilpig> get on their mailing list.  they rarely give stuff away but when they do they announce it.
09:47 <@Evilpig> I got this fighting game about a year ago called Photo Dojo that way. and right now they are giving away that zelda
09:51 < ware> been playing with usenet, shit is pretty neat
09:51 <@Evilpig> why the hell am I getting voicemails without the phone ringing?!
09:52 < ware> mebbe someone fwd'd you a vm
10:30 <@Dagmar> evilpig: I'll have to fire up the DSi when I get home and see if it's available for that as well
10:33 <@aestetix_> rangerz1: yep
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11:21 < CNwaV> Well your phone might have lost its registration, you could be on a roaming tower, or your phone isnt responding to pages quick enough.. Or your hlr is fucked up
11:22 < CNwaV> Do you forward your calls ever?
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13:06 <@Catonic> aestetix_: nigga
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13:09 <@aestetix_> Catonic: will I see you in nashville?
13:10 <@Catonic> Apparently you didn't get the memo. I can use that word now. I got the blackness that Michael Jackson removed.
13:10 <@aestetix_> huh
13:10 <@aestetix_> what if I say nigga
13:10 <@aestetix_> wow
13:11 <@Catonic> At some point, I would imagine. Moving PN to the start of November means I can afford it... for once.
13:11 <@Catonic> Still looking for somewhere to sleep/clean up.
13:12 <@aestetix_> Catonic: find out if you can crash in Electra's room :)
13:12 <@Catonic> Is she coming?
13:13 <@Catonic> I mean, she was her own special brand of crazy, but I've fucked worse.
13:14 <@Dagmar> I contest the veracity of that statement
13:14 <@Dagmar> ..a.nd who the hell is Electra
13:14 <@Catonic> I really don't want to drink at PN, but you'll have to buy me a beer or shot to get the story.
13:14 <@Dagmar> I'm bringing Special Reserve if I can find the stuff
13:15 <@aestetix_> Dagmar: the chick Catonic was batshit crazy about for like a year
13:15 <@Dagmar> I was pleasantly suprised by that when Decius handed me a can last year
13:15 <@Dagmar> i'm used to COors tastig pretty weak
13:15 <@Catonic> aestetix_: she was cute. Unfortunately, she was not very well socialized.
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13:15 <@Dagmar> er sorry Steel Reserve
13:16 <@aestetix_> Yes. "She". Uh huh.
13:16 <@Catonic> aestetix_: is that how your adventures in SF have been? =P
13:17 <@aestetix_> Catonic: well there were some fun times at kink.com on saturday....
13:18 < scribbles> Oh. really.
14:36 <@Catonic> is the channel really dead or am I lagged?
14:37 <@brimstone> it's dead
14:43 < ware> ded
14:59 <@Catonic> ln -s /usr/bin/killall /usr/local/bin/coathanger
15:03 < ware> :D
15:33 <@rattle> Damn.  http://thinkprogress.org/special/2011/10/31/357037/protest-police-nashville/
15:37 <@Dagmar> Yep, Haslam's a rich asshole alright
15:39 <@Dagmar> I really do hope they file charges against those troopers for *clearly making shit up*
15:40 <@Dagmar> I don't think a damn thing will happen for much the same reason as why they were down there arresting people in the first place, but I'd like to see some cops lose their jobs for very clearly _making up charges_
15:44 <@Dagmar> Frankly, they should throw the trooper who fabricated the resisting arrest charhge in fucking jail tho
15:45 <@Dagmar> ...as well as the shit of a cop who went along with it.
15:52 < ware> yuh
15:53 < ware> telling them youre with the media == resisting arrest
15:53 < ware> rofl
15:53 <@Dagmar> It's soooo not.
15:54 <@Dagmar> What I'd *really* like to see would be both officers facing charges of conspiracy.
15:55 <@Dagmar> ...and I sure as fuck woudln't be asking for an apology if I ran the Scene--I'd just fucking start suing.
15:55 < ware> same
15:56 < ware> http://www.nashvillescene.com/pitw/archives/2011/10/29/night-court-magistrate-throws-the-book-at-haslam-troopers-over-occupy-nashville-arrests
16:09 <@Dagmar> ~shorturl
16:09 <@Dagmar> Damn I thougth we had a bot for that
16:11 <@Dagmar> THat title is a bit misleading
16:24 < ware> yeah
16:24 <@brimstone> ~miniurl
16:24 <@brimstone> ?
16:24 < ware> but they dismissed all charges
16:25 <@brimstone> ~maxieurl
16:25 < ware> http://goo.gl/yfgFQ
16:44 <@Sheath> ~penisurl
16:56 <@Dagmar> Dismissing all the charges doesn't matter.
16:56 <@Dagmar> For one thing, they singled out the reporter for special harassment.
16:57 <@Dagmar> For the other, for a charge of "conspiracy" to stick, all that's necessary is to show that someone planned to commit a crime.
16:58 <@Dagmar> Clearly, the officers were planning to file falsified charges against the reporter.  Clearly, they *did* actually file falsified charges against the reporter.
16:58 <@Dagmar> Neither of them should be allowed to continue pursuing a career in law enforcement.
17:11 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar:  I'm more of the mind that THP troopers who violate the law should enjoy a stint behind bars.  You make an example of a few, and the rest will start shaping up
17:12 <@Dagmar> Frankly, I'd like to see some of them beaten half to death for that.
17:12 <@Corydon76-home> A night in jail for the first one, 3 days for the next, then 7, then 30 days.
17:12 <@Dagmar> Not just any troopers, but the ones who are making shit up to charge people with.
17:12 <@Corydon76-home> Shouldn't get much beyond that
17:14 <@Dagmar> I'd like to know why you'd let someone who is responsible for upholding the law violate the law not once, not twice, but four times and still keep his job
17:14 <@Dagmar> Far as I know, if I even get arrested for some silly shit like that and miss work, I'm *immediately* fired from Vanderbilt's employ
17:15 <@Catonic> Guys, let me share with you something I've been researching for the last two years:
17:15 <@Catonic> 18 USC 241
17:15 <@Dagmar> Other places will readily do the same thing to their employees.
17:15 <@Dagmar> You miss work because you're in jail, for whatever reason, and you might as well not bother showing up again
17:16 <@Catonic> Chapter 13 is full of lots of fun text... Usually these are known as 1983 lawsuits.
17:16 <@Dagmar> Meaning what
17:16 <@Catonic> 241. Conspiracy against rights ; 242. Deprivation of rights under color of law
17:16 <@Dagmar> Ahhhh
17:17 <@Catonic> If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or
17:17 <@Catonic> Assembly is Amendment #1.
17:17 <@Catonic> Here's what I've learned in the last two years: I know a few attorneys. And they like to drink.
17:18 <@Dagmar> EIther way it's time for this shit to stop
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17:18 <@Catonic> Agreed.
17:18 < CNwaV> Happy halloween all...
17:18 <@Dagmar> Everyone should start keeping a "list" of people who willfully do not do their jobs in the service of gov't in order to further their own twisted goals
17:19 <@Catonic> One of the problem we're seeing is that we've got a lot of ex-military guys who have a limited set of skills and they go into police work because it uses some (few) of them.
17:19 < CNwaV> Everyone should start keeping a list of how bad they want to punch you in the face ;)
17:19 <@Catonic> So you've got a lot of Army-buddy "he'll save my ass so I'll save his ass" fraternity going on.
17:20 <@Catonic> 95% of cops are good... but the 95% are covering for the 5% who honestly are bad apples because when it comes down to them starting down the 1% Joker-level psychopatic criminals -- they want to know that someone has thier back.
17:20 <@Catonic> *staring down
17:21 <@Dagmar> Doens't mean they're not assholes for it
17:21 <@Catonic> But those 5% bad apples have no one's back.
17:21 <@Dagmar> ...and in this case, as with many others, it only takes a few guys to look the other way and capitulate for abuses to happen.
17:21 <@Catonic> EXACTLY.
17:21 <@Dagmar> THe officer in charge gave the order to commit a crime.
17:21 <@Dagmar> THe supporting officer concurred.
17:22 <@Dagmar> I don't care if he was being a good ol' boy about it or not they should both be out of jobs.
17:22 <@Catonic> Did you see the video yesterday of a FHP officer arresting a Miami police officer in a marked squad car?
17:22 <@Dagmar> THe remaining 95% will get along just fine without them.
17:22 < CNwaV> Yeah I saw that...
17:22 <@Dagmar> Catonic; No but I''ll be looking now
17:22 <@Catonic> LEOs have problems thinking independently.
17:23 <@Dagmar> I know I saw Vandy cops draw on Metro cops once
17:23 < CNwaV> Was speeding to get to his other job on time...
17:23 <@Dagmar> That was nice
17:23 < CNwaV> Then refused to pull over for several miles...
17:23 < ware> yah
17:24 < ware> im glad the FHP chick pulled em over
17:24 <@Catonic> I've dealt with that first-hand. I handed a LEO a sheet of paper of actual court cases and cited specific text in those cases... and he told me that I just got that off the internet and you shouldn't trust that. "Hey, you can't carry a gun in here. They sell alcohol here." "Really? Where's the law that says that?" "I can't cite it exactly, but it's on-line somewhere...." ... Not really thinking there, are ya bud?
17:24 < ware> walked up to the car with her weapon drawn and then put his ass in cuffs
17:24 <@Dagmar> Anyway... off to Bongo to get coffee wearing a Guy Fawkes mask
17:24 <@Dagmar> ...and a suit and tie
17:24 <@Catonic> careful about that
17:24 <@brimstone> how original
17:24 <@Catonic> they may have a KKK law on the books
17:24 < ware> LOL
17:24 <@Catonic> somewhere it was against the law to cover your face...
17:25 <@Dagmar> I know.
17:25 < ware> id come join you if i didnt have plans
17:25 <@Dagmar> I won't be walking inside with the mask on.
17:25 < ware> need to get me one of those
17:25 <@Catonic> What crime have I commited, are about to commit, or have committed? Am I free to go? Am I being detained?
17:25 < CNwaV> You should have seen anonymous/lulzsec when they walked into the casino in vegas with their masks on...
17:25 <@Dagmar> Lately I prefer unnerving levels of silence.
17:25 <@brimstone> are about to commit?
17:25 <@brimstone> they can catch you on that?
17:26 < CNwaV> Security did not like that one bit...
17:26 < ware> lol
17:26 <@Catonic> AL Code of Alabama 15-5-30, -31.
17:26 <@Dagmar> I'm not going to humor some dumbshit cop who thinks for even a second he can outwit me in a battle of words
17:26 <@Catonic> any highway patrolman or state trooper may stop any person abroad in a public place whom he reasonably suspects is committing, has committed or is about to commit a felony or other public offense and may demand of him his name, address and an explanation of his actions.
17:27 <@brimstone> 2006 Alabama Code - Section 15-5-30 — Authority of peace officer to stop and question.
17:28 <@Catonic> Something else I learned... Police officers don't have statewide arrest authority... Only to within so many miles of town limits.
17:28 <@brimstone> Alabama Code - Section 15-5-31: SEARCH FOR DANGEROUS WEAPON; PROCEDURE IF WEAPON OR OTHER THING FOUND
17:28 <@brimstone> neat
17:28 <@Catonic> Never ask a cop about law.... They don't know it and they aren't required to tell you the truth. Ask an attorney.
17:29 <@brimstone> how can someone act on behalf of something they don't know?
17:29 <@Catonic> We're talking about Alabama here... they actually protect ignorance in law enforcement.
17:30 <@Catonic> I'd have to cite a case where it's been tried...
17:30 <@Catonic> I have read that.
17:33 <@Catonic> http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=4842761944468078561
17:33 <@Catonic> It is not necessary that a police officer specify the exact title and section of the Code or act number upon which he bases an arrest. From the officer's testimony, it was sufficiently clear that his intention was to make an arrest for carrying an unlicensed pistol contrary to the only statute applicable, § 175, supra. This court would certainly not indulge in the presumption that the police officer intended to make an arrest under a
17:33 <@Catonic> ion and which had been preempted by a subsequent revision of the subject matter covered. To rule otherwise would be to place an unreasonable burden upon law enforcement.
17:36 <@Catonic> any questions?
17:37 < CNwaV> What are you a cop or a lawyer?
17:37 < Vyrus001> yes?
17:37 < Vyrus001> :D
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17:41 <@Catonic> I am not a lawyer. And I am not a LEO.
17:41 < CNwaV> Are you a shrubbery?
17:41 <@Catonic> I've just done a lot of research in a few places.
17:42 <@Catonic> CNwaV: your father smells of elderberries.
17:42 < CNwaV> No, well then BRING ME A SHRUBBERY!!!!
17:42 < CNwaV> At least m mother wasnt a hamster
17:42  * Catonic throws George Bush at CNwaV 
17:42 <@Catonic> Take your goddamn shrub and leave.
17:43 < CNwaV> ...and cut it down... With a herring, yes, a herring.
17:44 < CNwaV> ..and counteth to three, three being the number counted to.. Not one or two..
17:46 <@Catonic> What's the average airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?
17:55 < CNwaV> Is that a european swallow, or and african swallow? AHHHHHH!!!!
17:55 < CNwaV> I havent watched that movie in forever... I actually own a legal copy... I need to watch it
17:56 <@Catonic> I bought The Life Of Brian at Wal*Mart
17:59 < CNwaV> That is a good one too...
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18:59 <@Evilpig> pretty sure most people in here have a real copy on either VHS or a DVD somewhere
18:59 < ware> weee
19:16  * Evilpig hands ware a mop
19:18 < ware> Evilpig: have you had that Kraken vodka?
19:21 <@Evilpig> nope.  I have some whipped vodka though
19:59 <@Dagmar> Oooo... lookit me all entering SQL commands and stuff
19:59 <@Dagmar> update cardinput set externalcommand = '6200ch -4 -g 0x0050940000145e4a';
19:59 < ware> odear
20:00 <@Dagmar> Yeah it might have just been that I needed to add the -4 to enable 4-digit channel support.
20:00 <@Dagmar> I'm about to find out.
20:06 <@Dagmar> THANK GOD
20:06 <@Dagmar> Yeah, now the firewire controls work again
20:16 < ware> HELL YEAH
20:20 < eryc> wtf is that
20:20 < eryc> is that a wwn
20:45 <@Evilpig> nachoguy_: upload a picture if you want that on your badge as well.
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21:21 <@brimstone> Evilpig: i'm good without an image i think
21:21 <@Evilpig> k.  I held off just in case.  i'll get yours in the next batch
21:21 < ware> Evilpig: put an image on mine
21:22 < ware> wrinkled balls pls
21:22 <@Evilpig> ware you don't have a badge cuase you're going to skydickcon and didn't pre-reg
21:22 <@Dagmar> eryc; Yeah that's the gid of the cable box
21:22 < ware> OH ILL BE ON THE 9TH FLOOR
21:22  * ware has special anti-goon tactics
21:22 <@Evilpig> you sure about that?  pretty sure that is a badged area
21:22 <@Dagmar> Considering the thing jumps around from node to node it's the only way I can reasonably catch it
21:22 <@Evilpig> I have a large goon this year too
21:23 < ware> yes, but can he stop FLYING CHAIRS?!
21:23 <@Dagmar> NOW you're getting the idea
21:23 <@Evilpig> he can create flying ware's
21:23 < ware> lulz
21:23 < ware> k just make me a badge
21:23 < ware> and ill come over and get it
21:24 < ware> ty
21:24 <@Dagmar> Blerf I should proably pre-reg tomorrow or something
21:24 <@Evilpig> I thought you were a local member?  I have to get that list of people still from Corydon76-home 
21:24 <@Evilpig> here is you a badge ware. http://twitpic.com/783eki  $25
21:26 <@Dagmar> Tell me you've already replaceed that belt
21:26 <@Evilpig> what belt?
21:27 <@Evilpig> oh on the truck?  oh fuck yeah
21:27 <@Evilpig> I was zipping down I-24 when that bitch split in half like that.
21:28 <@Dagmar> Hopefully you've tossed that motherboard as well
21:28 <@Evilpig> yup
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21:36 <@Evilpig> ware it's too bad you won't be at PN.  The scavenger hunt will be amusing.  Note the last item.  http://phreaknic.info/pn15/contests.html
21:37 < RangerZ> is it ok if i bring the pair that NotLarry left at my apartment last night?
21:37 <@Evilpig> Rules say that's okay
21:37 <@Evilpig> have to prove they're his though
21:50 <@Dagmar> is Laughing Boy coming?
21:50 <@Dagmar> I might just take a crack at that one if he's not.
21:50 <@Evilpig> Negative.  He and Marley are getting married next week and they are uber busy right now
21:50 <@Dagmar> ...and put the ghost of Elvis in the shot somewhere
21:51 <@Dagmar> I think he'd find it amusing
21:53 <@Evilpig> I'm pretty sure when he starts getting tweets of him doing things he will be laughing
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21:56 <@sdodson> sup crackaz?
21:56 <@Evilpig> yo mama
21:56 <@sdodson> Evilpig: ohhai
21:56 <@Evilpig> sdodson: what's missing from this? http://phreaknic.info/pn15/contests.html
21:56 <@Dagmar> I'm amazed I got that change through this morning without a lot of debate
21:57 <@Dagmar> They're starting to really listen to the Tall Man
21:57 <@sdodson> Dagmar: you're tall?
21:57 <@Dagmar> Peter is tall
21:57  * sdodson files an incident on Dagmar 
21:57 <@Dagmar> Hadda remove a bit from logrotate that was killing DHCPd on the DHCPd servers.
21:58 <@Dagmar> This sort of change is not easily explained in a change management form because you've got to somehow fill in a testing procedure, as well as backout plans.
21:58 <@Dagmar> Being that the thing being removed is dumb to begin with, backout plans would be insane.
21:58 <@Dagmar> ...and it's pretty hard to test telling logrotate to _not_ kill a daemon
21:59 <@Dagmar> Imapct?  Campus wide.
21:59 <@Dagmar> That one was begging for managers to get all up in it asking silly questions
21:59 <@Evilpig> could just be a momentary campus wide impact though
21:59 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Et tu?
21:59 <@Evilpig> got my managerial hat on
22:00 <@Dagmar> Seriously, deleting a postrotate directive from logrotate?
22:00 <@Evilpig> had to listen to several of them the other night
22:00 <@Dagmar> That's not going to impact anything.
22:00 <@Dagmar> At midnight, it will very studiously _not_ murder the DHCP server.
22:00 <@Dagmar> I'm just impressed that taskmanager was restarting it all this time.
22:01 <@Dagmar> My jaw dropped when I saw it in there.
22:01 <@Dagmar> I was like "Well, that explains why the DHCPd died off."
22:01 < eryc> wth is taskmanager
22:01 <@Dagmar> eryc: A process wrangler used by the abomination that is DiamondIP.
22:02 <@Dagmar> I've been meaning to mention to Rattle about that actually.
22:02 <@Dagmar> We know some people who unwittingly wrote code for it.
22:02 <@Dagmar> heh
22:02 < eryc> heh
22:02 <@Dagmar> It has a web interface that has, I shit you not, almost 100 different tabs for things.
22:03 <@Dagmar> They make managing nameservice records nightmarishly complex.
22:03 < eryc> its pci compliant tho! amirite
22:04 <@Dagmar> If it didn't have the ONE saving grace of sanity checking the config files it's about to push out before an errant typo slaughters your entire DNS infrastucture I'd be menacing those machines with large electromagnets.
22:04 < eryc> i can do that with a shell script
22:05 < eryc> named-checkconf || exit 1
22:05 <@Dagmar> Well, this also prevents certain people from doing impossibly stupid things like adding two hostnames with the same letters, just different cases.
22:05 <@Dagmar> ...or at least when they do it, it doesn't immediately break the namesevrers.
22:06 <@Dagmar> Amusingly, it will let you create "IMATARD" and "imatard" in the same zone
22:06 < eryc> round robin tarding!
22:06 <@Dagmar> It also by side effect _usually_ prevents people from adding a CNAME to the root of a zone
22:06 <@Dagmar> That's always good for endless luls
22:07 <@Dagmar> cnames being singleton records, as stated in the RFC, what happens when a particular resolver library sees a cname record for something is in god's hands
22:07 <@Dagmar> Does the resolver immediately stop reading for further records?  Probably.
22:08 <@Dagmar> Does it discard SOA and NS records?  Probably that too
22:08 < eryc> that's not the unix philosophy
22:08 <@Dagmar> No, it very much is the unix philosophy
22:08 < eryc> its accept all brokenness, output strict
22:08 <@Dagmar> cname is a singleton by RFC.
22:09 <@Dagmar> Thou Shalt Abide Thy RFCs To Thy Letter, or Very Bad Things Will Befall Thee.
22:09 < eryc> no one does
22:09 <@Dagmar> Especially considering what a CNAME is, no other thing with it can possibly make sense.
22:10 <@Dagmar> An MX record?  You're going to hell for sure.
22:11 < eryc> i'm pretty sure jesus doesn't know what an MX record is
22:11 <@Dagmar> i bet he knows enough to slap someone doing what can easily turn into a raging DNS loop for an MX record
22:11 <@Dagmar> Everyone loves having clients frantically request the same three records over and over
22:14 < eryc> if that were possible people would be DoSing resolvers all day every day
22:14 <@Dagmar> There's also that whole, sometimes ya know, you want to know whether or not your query is coming from an authoritative host
22:15 <@Dagmar> eryc: It's possible, which is why out of zone CNAMEs of any sort are generally Frowned Upon
22:32 <@Catonic> My liege.
22:33 <@Catonic> *leige?
22:34 <@Catonic> so who is going shooting after PN on Sunday?
22:37 <@Catonic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEQuwGqy4VU < jesus
22:41 <@Evilpig> I'd like to but I will be sleeping and packing shit
22:43 <@Evilpig> damn.  the pre-reg i just got may be the farthest yet.  lynnwood, wa
22:43 <@Catonic> Who is the vol coord?
22:43 <@Evilpig> dolemite
22:43 <@Catonic> I just put in for whatever I can when I get there...
22:43 <@Catonic> I'd like to try a lightning talk but
22:44 <@Catonic> I probably won't write anything down.
22:44 <@Evilpig> heh.  got one slot still open and one that is iffy.  he's trying to get a ride but not looking good
22:46 <@Catonic> I will probably make the BBQ
22:47 <@Evilpig> sweet.  that should be a good time for all.
22:48 <@Catonic> the MG shoot is at 9AM, I plan on being out of there by noon.
22:48 <@Catonic> 100 rds doesn't last long in an NFA firearm.
22:48 < RangerZ> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/10/31/203223/first-android-device-certified-for-dod-personnel
22:49 < RangerZ> so the dell streaks are pretty nice
22:49 <@Catonic> ~maxieurl
22:49 <@Catonic> command?
22:49 <@Catonic> Mmmmm pancakes. I love em, you love em, the Maker's Local 256 will me manning
22:49 <@Catonic> *will be
23:36 <@Evilpig> hold on.  I was laying in bed when I typed that
23:39 <@aestetix_> vagina
23:39 <@Evilpig> where?!
23:40 <@Catonic> Mmmm.
23:40 <@Evilpig> bbiab.  gonna go get some ice and stuff.  just finished cutting and applying stickers to another 50 badges.  alot of damn work.  
23:49 <@Catonic> but it's less than 60 from home to range.
23:50 <@Catonic> from range to range, it's 30 miles, AT&T LLs.
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