--- Log opened Fri Oct 28 00:00:12 2011
00:02 <@Bahhumbug> Cardinals is a bad word where I'm from.  I grew up just a couple miles from Wrigley.
00:03 <@NotLarry> polo
00:04 <@Evilpig> hit me on communicator
00:13 < CNwaV> I am a cards and cubs fan... Weird, eh?
00:14 <@Evilpig> apparently not that strange
00:15 <@Bahhumbug> I don't know... The term "blasphemy" comes to mind.
00:15 < CNwaV> Well, they have a rivalry going on since the late 1800's
00:24 < CNwaV> But, yes.. I am a blaspheemer...
00:25 <@Evilpig> ttp://phreaknic.info/pn15/contests.html
00:26 <@Evilpig> I gotta go dig the rest of the items up.  they're in another document somewhere
00:28 < CNwaV> Is this individual, or team based?
00:28 <@Evilpig> didn't we go over this already?  someone else asked that.  individual or team.  but the prizes will be more suited to an individual and not easily sharable
00:31 < CNwaV> I dont think I was here when that was discussed...
00:31 <@Evilpig> that may have been facebook.  seems my entire life right now is consumed by phreaknic in one way or another
00:32 < CNwaV> So, is notlarry willing to gay it up?
00:32 <@Evilpig> depends on how drunk you get him
00:33 <@Evilpig> i'm saying yes he is.
00:33 < CNwaV> Not fair... He told me the other day that he is going to try to avoid getting too drunk this year...
00:38 <@Evilpig> going to try and going to do are not always the same with him
00:38 < CNwaV> God bless alcoholism!
00:40 <@Evilpig> this is going to need much formatting to be useful
00:43 < CNwaV_tp> you need to add badge from one of the first five pns..
00:43 < CNwaV_tp> orig uc proj
00:43 <@Evilpig> still going
00:44 < CNwaV_tp> yes i am still going
00:45 < CNwaV_tp> how could you ask something like that?
00:46 <@Evilpig> smart ass
00:46 <@Evilpig> I meant I was still going.  still typing shit in.  :P
00:46 < CNwaV_tp> hehe
00:46 <@Evilpig> damn troll back under your bridge
00:47 < CNwaV_tp> you must first answer these questions three...
00:48 <@Evilpig> oh I have an evil genius idea.  what the heck is laughingboy's twitter?
00:50 < CNwaV> ?
00:50 <@Evilpig> hold on.  this one will amuse me and maybe him,  could annoy him but pretty sure he will enjoy the gag
00:57 < CNwaV> You should put stuff on the list that you want people to bring... Laser cutter, cnc, 3d printer, etc...
00:57 < CNwaV> Oh, how about a personally etched pcb?
00:58 <@Evilpig> are you digging through your desk right now?
00:59 < CNwaV> No, I wish I had a cnc or laser cutter... Working on my 3d printer... But I am a far ways off on that one
01:00 < CNwaV> I am bringing board etching supplies though
01:02 < CNwaV> I need to grab some more copper clad...
01:02 <@Evilpig> was it 11 or 12 that someone did a talk on that and did some etching on site.  coule have even been as early as 9
01:02 < CNwaV> I dunno, I was at 3 and 14.... Missed a few years
01:04 <@Evilpig> I remember seeing the talk but don't remember the year.  it was up on 9 though, I think.  so that should narrow it down.
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01:09 <@Evilpig> Damn I have bad memory
01:10 < CNwaV> Im sure it was 9
01:10 < CNwaV> How about points for rickrolling you or notlarry?
01:10 <@Evilpig> not happening.  get enough of that from Mirage with the firewall
01:14 < CNwaV> Throw some micro controller stuff in there...
01:14 < CNwaV> Lockpicks...
01:14 < CNwaV> Or picking a lock...
01:14 <@Evilpig> Toothpicks,  not lockpicks
01:14 <@Evilpig> nopt
01:14 <@Evilpig> not going near that topic
01:15 < CNwaV> Oh, yeah, I forgot about that... Nono in tennesee..
01:15 <@Evilpig> I will throw up hand crafted speciality tool though
01:16 <@Evilpig> that has a wide range of things it could be
01:16 <@Evilpig> could be a broom with a piece of gum on the end for picking up that screw you dropped down the hole
01:16 <@Evilpig> could be a ballgag for those employee reviews
01:17 < CNwaV> Hehe, I have an idea...
01:19 < CNwaV> Might make one, its pretty interesting...
01:19 < CNwaV> But, easily defeated by a hand towel
01:20 < RangerZ> i can't wait for biology classes to teach about the "nuketown" and "n00b tube"
01:21 < RangerZ> as types of coral, lol
01:21 < CNwaV> Seriously? Awesome...
01:24 < RangerZ> http://www.gamepron.com/news/2011/10/27/new-coral-named-after-call-of-duty-black-ops/
01:28 < CNwaV> Hey, evilpig... How about an automatic win for a brass magnet?
01:29 < CNwaV> I used to ptank electronic stores for that all the time..
01:30 <@Evilpig> I haven't heard of that one.  explain.  bbiaf gotta go unrack a pix
01:31 < CNwaV> Brass is non ferrous... Doesnt react to magnetic fields, I.e., they dont exist
01:32 < CNwaV> Oh, oh, I know, homebrew beer!
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01:34 < CNwaV2> Mfer
01:40 < CNwaV2> Haha, http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/27/woman-accused-of-trafficking-30-pounds-of-cocaine-in-cake-mix-boxes/?hpt=hp_t2 people are stupid
01:43 < CNwaV2> Trying to clear.customs with 24 boxes of cake mix?
01:48 <@Evilpig> heh.  that's like sending a student ot the wood shop for a left handed claw hammer
01:50 <@Evilpig> what if you took a rare earth magnet then covered it in a thin layer of brass?  hrmmm?  it'd be a brass magnet
01:51 <@Evilpig> off to run a cable for accre now.  can't leave it for stupid over there cause it will never get done
02:02 < RangerZ> just wait until we get space foundries
02:03 < RangerZ> we'll get tons of element combos you can't get in gravity (hopefully gundamium is one of them)
02:20 < RangerZ> but it will be able to see combos like iron-helium , etc that wouldn't work in G
02:21 < CNwaV2> How does that work out?
02:21 < CNwaV2> Gravity is a weak force... I cant imagine the lack of g allowing helium and iron to bond..
02:28 < CNwaV2> Who knows.. I am no chemist, nor a physicist...
02:37 < CNwaV2> But I am an asshole... I hear that every day.
03:17 <@Evilpig> CNwaV2: do you have my apt bugged?  cause I totally do say that just about daily
03:34 <@Evilpig> http://filecoreinuse.livejournal.com/92930.html
03:34 <@Evilpig> Watch the movie hackers and anytime someone says "hack" you take a shot. It starts slow, but you won't make it thru the entire movie before u are super hammered.
04:09 <@Evilpig> NotLarry: you still awake?
04:57 <@Evilpig> tee hee.  I have mini notlarry's on my screen
05:00 <@Evilpig> I think I need another image still though
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05:54 <@Evilpig> gah!  what is with this motherfucker and smells?!  
06:03 <@Bahhumbug> random?
06:04 <@Evilpig> no.  this cocksucker I work with.  he bathes in things that stink
06:04 <@Evilpig> thinks he touched something germy to the hand sanitizer to the point that the entire room reaks
06:05 <@Evilpig> goes outside for lunch comes back smelling of so much lip balm I can smell it across the room
06:05 <@Evilpig> one night he got into the air freshener.  one squirt more than covers this room.  I don't know how many he used but my eyes were watering
06:08 <@Bahhumbug> You need to replace these idiots with chimps or something.
06:09 <@Bahhumbug> I was unlucky enough to be forced to work with someone that had various odor issues a number of years ago.  They put him in our NOC.  We put him back out in the bullpen at the end of the day.  This went on for a few days until management got the idea we weren't going to be saddled with him in our NOC.
06:10 <@Bahhumbug> I'd like to say he was ok other than the odor issue; but that would be a lie.  Passed the buck all the time; never met his obligations and commitments; too credit for that which he had nothing to do with.  Total douche.
06:10 <@Evilpig> funny you say that about chimps...  inner redneck showing.  or is that another r word?  I shouldn't even hint at such things around here
06:13 <@Bahhumbug> Not sure I fully grok it, but from inference I think I can assume that other r word to be racist?  That type of thing irritates me.  I meant chimpanzee (sp?); I've gotten into "discussions" about that word in the past with HR departments, both up north and down here.
06:22 <@Evilpig> I will not confirm or deny.  I will say this guy really pushes me to my limit
06:34 <@Evilpig> on a completely other topic.  IE once again proves to me that it can fuck up anything
06:34 <@Evilpig> http://phreaknic.info/pn15/contests.html   IE has visual issues
06:38 <@Bahhumbug> IE _is_ a visual issue.
06:38 <@Bahhumbug> You should just autodetect browsers and if it's IE tell them to use something less retarded.
06:39 <@Evilpig> I actually have divs hidden on several of the other pages that show up if you're using IE
06:39 <@Evilpig> that say that very thing
06:39 <@Evilpig> http://www.phreaknic.info/pn15/  <-- check that
06:40 <@Evilpig> the schedule looks like complete garbage in IE.  I got tired of trying to make it do what I wanted and wasn't about to jump through hoops for it
06:46 <@Bahhumbug> Looks nice in FF.
06:46 <@Bahhumbug> Be nice if IE would, at some point, considering becoming standards compliant.
06:46 <@Bahhumbug> Oh wait....  Silly me to even suggest such a thing.
06:47 <@Evilpig> yeah exactly.  when the site looks the same in FF, Chrome, Opera, Safari and not IE.  There is clearly a problem with the lone wolf
06:48 <@Bahhumbug> Try telling Redmond that :)
06:48 <@Evilpig> I just threw a 2em padding on the schedule in IE which cleared up the one glaring visual blech that was eating at me.  still don't like it
06:48 <@Evilpig> brb moving truck before ticket enforcement starts
06:48 <@Bahhumbug> I've got to finish up a few things anyway.
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07:09 < CNwaV2> Fuck... It is way too early for it to be 8am
07:13 <@Evilpig> closing this bitch down.  it's the weekend!
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07:55 < sinless> Morning.
08:02 <@Evilpig> is it again?  damn I failed
08:06 <@Evilpig> you looking for something or someone specific this morning sinless?  or just popping in to hang?
08:10 <@Dagmar> NotLarry didn't hear the podcast did he
08:10 <@Evilpig> He doesnt want any part of it
08:10 <@Evilpig> He has been adament about ignoring that situation outright
08:11 <@Dagmar> He needs to hear it so he'll understand exactly what it is that has everyone else buzzing around like bees
08:11 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: check my contest link from last night
08:11 <@Dagmar> I don't think he understands the extent to which those lies stretch out.
08:13 <@Dagmar> Not sure i got that
08:14 <@Evilpig> do a /lastlog contest
08:14 <@Evilpig> http://phreaknic.info/pn15/contests.html
08:15 <@Evilpig> dolemite gave me an idea but I gotta goto kinkos today and see how much they will charge me to print a picture lifesize
08:15 <@Dagmar> wtf
08:16 < sinless> Oh just popping in to hang. Just seeing how you guys are doing, it's been awhile. (PN7,8,9 fella under a different handle)
08:16 <@Dagmar> I had no idea that command was in the client
08:17 <@Dagmar> Oooooo
08:17 <@Dagmar> I gotta bring a sharpie for the wimmins
08:17 <@Evilpig> gotcha.  well welcome
08:18 <@Dickie> HAI I'M DICKIE
08:18 <@Dickie> We're friends now.
08:18 <@Evilpig> down dickie.  down boy
08:19 <@Evilpig> you can sniff him later.  let him get used to you first
08:19 <@Dagmar> hah
08:19  * Dickie wags his tail.
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10:50 < CNwaV2> It isnt sunny today :(
10:54 < CNwaV2> Cold fusion plant is supposed to come online today... I dont buy it
11:08 <@opticron> ?
11:08 <@opticron> since when do we have a viable cold fusion power source?
11:09 < CNwaV2> http://www.e-catworld.com/2011/10/october-28th-e-cat-test-pre-game-thread-gather-here-for-news-and-discussion/
11:09 < CNwaV2> Probably a sham...
11:35 <@Dagmar> Well, I think the main issue is that even the inventor is not fully certain it will work, but he was convinced enough that they've built a plant to find out for sure
11:35 <@Dagmar> Once they do their first tests and they work, he'll probably be hollering "Holy crap we did it"
11:35 <@Dagmar> His career is done if it doesn't, eoo
11:35 <@Dagmar> s/eoo/too.
11:37 <@Dagmar> Let's just hope it doesn't malfunctionin some weird way that exhausts a third of the global eigenstates like that LHC project did or coat the entire Eastern Seaboard in a thin sheen of tapioca pudding or something
11:58 <@rattle> I just heard that TheNURSE had a stroke while presenting at HackerHalted.
11:58 <@Dagmar> Ouch.  That almost sounds like a bad joke.
11:59 <@Dagmar> Hopefully they're okay now or at least recovering
12:09 <@rattle> All I've heard is that he came out of surgery.  No prognosis.
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16:25 < RangerZ> Honey, I'm home, where's my PU.... oh hello there kids
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19:16 <@Dagmar> Well... I just got an email from HP about those tablets.
19:16 <@Dagmar> Looks like they're actually not going to do a final run of them after all
19:20 <@Evilpig> as did I
19:21 < RangerZ> because they are keeping their desktop/laptop division
19:21 < RangerZ> they can probably send the parts back(just a guess)
19:22 <@Evilpig> the rumor mill suggests they are working on a Win8 tablet with teh basis being the touchpad
19:22 < ware> meh
19:23 <@Evilpig> ware: would the troll faction like to weigh in?
19:24 < ware> tablets are dumb
19:24 < ware> lol
19:24 < ware> thats my .02
19:26 <@Bahhumbug> Wait.  You're not actively soliciting alleged trolls for their opinions?  Doesn't this indicate a significant slacking off on the part of the alleged trolls if they need to be prompted?
19:26 <@Bahhumbug> meh, s/not/now.
19:27 <@Evilpig> I always assume trolls are lazy and you must prod them from time to time or else they will stay under their bridge indefinitely
19:32 < ware> :D
19:32 < ware> doin some heavy duty serious biz minecraftin
19:34 <@Evilpig> Corydon76-home just brought me the laminator and blanks.  i'm making sure everything lines up correctly. with these in my hand I think I want to make the badges about .25" wider
19:36 < RangerZ> how are you going to make badges .25 minutes wider?
19:36 <@Evilpig> ware move over.  RangerZ is coming to setup a tent next to yours.
19:37 < RangerZ> ohh no, i'm just good at bad puns/play on words
19:37 <@Evilpig> it's fine.  i'm sure there is plenty of room under the bridge.  heh
19:44 < RangerZ> nah
19:44 < RangerZ> the old guy with the 'cast;e
19:44 < RangerZ> 'castle' made out of cardboard boxes... he told me that I needed to bring him a 40 before I could stay there
19:44 <@Evilpig> lol
19:48 <@Bahhumbug> sounds like you just described mercster.
19:49 < RangerZ> now that you mention it, he said he didn't want to talk to anyone except an angry little red headed twirp
19:56 <@Evilpig> eventually notlarry is going to realize his computer is ringing
20:06 < RangerZ> so... today's news was a WTF day
20:06 < RangerZ> TSA is checking people randomly _for just driving/riding the bus_ in nashville and knoxville
20:06 < RangerZ> and republicans want to outlaw birth control
20:07 < RangerZ> seriously... is that where we are as a nation...
20:09 <@Evilpig> are they really checking people on the bus?  that's ridiculous
20:10 < RangerZ> bus, ferry,trains
20:11 <@Evilpig> okay.  now that I have the exact badge blanks in hand the badge has to be enlarged slightly.  1/8" all around
20:13 < RangerZ> "ok?"
20:13 <@Bahhumbug> "I do not consent to a search of my person or belongings."
20:14 <@Bahhumbug> "Am I being detained?"
20:14 < RangerZ> "you give up that right when you were born in a nation with neo-conservatives"
20:14 <@Evilpig> nevermine mind me just bitching.
20:14 <@Bahhumbug> The only 2 phrases one needs to know.
20:14 <@Evilpig> nevermind*
20:14 <@Bahhumbug> I'm sorry, I gave up my rights?  When did I do this?
20:14 <@Evilpig> in the event I ever have to take a bus and get some tsa clown wanting to search me there will be a problem
20:15 <@Bahhumbug> Perhaps if people would stop acting like a bunch of pussies and stand the fuck up for their rights this bullshit would end.
20:15 < RangerZ> Bahhumbug:  don't read much of the "classic" neo-conservative literature, then do you
20:15 < RangerZ> b/c they assume it is alright for "you" (us all) to give up privacy to protect the state
20:15 <@Bahhumbug> Not enough pictures.
20:15 <@Bahhumbug> And we all know what happens when one assumes.
20:16 < RangerZ> true, but i've read many of them (though not the book by an-rand(SP?) )
20:17 < RangerZ> which apparently is the basis for their economic '
20:17 < RangerZ> s
20:17 <@Bahhumbug> I would welcome some self-important, minimum wage TSA fuckhead stopping and detaining me.
20:18 <@Bahhumbug> I might grant them the right to do so in an airport or other port of entry / departing.
20:18 <@Bahhumbug> On a PUBLIC FUCKING ROAD?  No.
20:18 < RangerZ> didn't you know, they want to sell the public roads
20:18 < RangerZ> (and i'm not kidding)
20:18 <@Bahhumbug> I'm from Chicago.  That's old news.
20:18 <@Bahhumbug> Alley in back of a friends house got sold.
20:19 <@Bahhumbug> Made their garage pretty useless.
20:19 <@Bahhumbug> Then they privatized a regular street a couple hundred feet away.
20:19 <@Bahhumbug> Money went straight into the alderman's pocket.
20:19 < RangerZ> PA wanted to sell their turnpike to Saudia Arabia
20:20 <@Bahhumbug> Technically it's a privately funded roadway; I don't see anything illegal about it.  Immoral perhaps, but not illegal.
20:20 <@Bahhumbug> Or is it.
20:20 <@Bahhumbug> What was the funding source?  Bonds?
20:21 < RangerZ> yep, but both PA and OH's turnpikes have paid for themselves long ago
20:21 < RangerZ> kasich(r) in ohio wants to sell the turnpike with a no-bid sale to... well he wasn't going to tell us until after it was done
20:21 < RangerZ> just like how he sold our liquer agencies
20:27 < RangerZ> b/c thats how you "Balance" a budget if you are  freshmen republican gov'r it appears... he sold off 10s of millions of property that make millions each year... for only a fraction of what it is worth... for 99 year leases
20:27 < RangerZ> "starve the beast" FTL :(
20:36 <@Bahhumbug> Recall every incumbent; call for emergency elections; replace _all_ of them.
20:37 <@Bahhumbug> Or hang 'em from the near pole and see if the next generation learn anything.
20:37 <@Bahhumbug> s/near/nearest/
20:43 < RangerZ> ohio doesn't have that law
20:43 < RangerZ> only ballot issue to stop "laws"
20:43 < RangerZ> but the gov'r can just "allow" the sale of things
20:44 < RangerZ> which is screwy too, and needs to be fixed
20:44 < RangerZ> but ...ehh can't
21:15 < RangerZ> http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/1110/suicide-notes-funny-suicide-treasure-hunt-demotivational-posters-1319733699.gif
21:15 < RangerZ> wow... just wow...
21:17 <@Evilpig> lol
21:19 < RangerZ> and NO
21:19 < RangerZ> no treasure hunts that you organize Evilpig
21:20 < RangerZ> especially none starting at skydogcon
21:21 <@Evilpig> haha
21:21 < RangerZ> and god...my proofs of graph theory algorithms sucks
21:21 <@Evilpig> give me credit.  if he was the eventual discovery he wouldn't be picked up from there.
21:21 < RangerZ> true
21:21 < RangerZ> it would be your ex's house
21:22 < RangerZ> solve 2 birds with 1 stone
21:22 < RangerZ> lol
21:23 < RangerZ> http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/1110/chewy-chewy-star-wars-dog-funny-demotivational-posters-1319713990.jpg
21:23 < RangerZ> wtf, someone decided to put actually good pics up there today, lol
21:24 <@Evilpig> haha
21:24 <@Evilpig> i'm working in photoshop right now.
21:24 < RangerZ> after a month of that and gimp
21:24 < RangerZ> i think gimp has much better "ideas"
21:25 < RangerZ> but... ehh
21:25 <@Evilpig> I just can't make the transition to gimp.  i really have tried
21:25 < RangerZ> like with a drawing pad, how hard you press determines transparency , instead of line width
21:25 < RangerZ> they are making a gimp that is  "all in one window" like every other app
21:25 < RangerZ> and to be honest... thats really needed
21:25 < RangerZ> and let people "pull out" windows if they want
21:26 <@Evilpig> pull them out of the program? or just out of the docking positions?
21:27 <@Evilpig> the different windows with gimp really fucked with me cause my tools managed to get on the second monitor and just weren't where I expected them to be at times
21:27 < RangerZ> either
21:27 < RangerZ> just let it be settings
21:28 < RangerZ> but "default" like photoshop
21:28 < RangerZ> hell... make it a "you can use whatever skin" you want
21:59 <@Evilpig> bah.  my vm just decided to go nuts on me.
22:28 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Since i"m used to working with two monitors that actually works out pretty well for me
22:28 <@Dagmar> I've actually worked on things with the image completly full screen on one monitor, for one thing
22:44 <@Evilpig> It just doesn't work for me.  I need to shrink these words very slightly, but these are looking really good now
22:45 <@Dagmar> You also get used to the movable tools thing after awhile
22:46 <@Dagmar> I've got a general configuration I usually use
22:46 < RangerZ> yeah, i know
22:46 < RangerZ> which is why gimp should shamelessly rip of photoshops UI
22:46 < RangerZ> lol
22:46 <@Dagmar> Nooo...
22:47 < RangerZ> yes, then let it be customizable
22:47 <@Dagmar> The way Gimp works you can have as many or as few tools on the desktops as you like, anywhere you want them
22:47 < RangerZ> yes, but the "defualt" should be PS
22:47 <@Evilpig> I can move all the photoshop tools around like I want
22:47 <@Dagmar> Sure.  Open Gimp.  Arrange it's windows like PS.  Close it.
22:47 <@Dagmar> Reopen Gimp, they reappear where they last were
22:47 <@Evilpig> and I can pull the tolls panel off to another monitor too.  but I really don't like that
22:48 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Yeah but they all sit in that large rectangle that obscures everything else
22:48 <@Dagmar> ...or at least it did the last time I dealt with it
22:48 <@Evilpig> hold on.  will screenshot
22:48 <@Dagmar> There's a degree to which the real issue is that PS wants to try to use it's own window manager and Gimp doesn't give a shit
22:49 <@Dagmar> Probably part of that is that basically the same people already wrote a damn window manager, or two
22:49 <@Dagmar> ...cuz if you remember, GTK+ stands for Gimp Toolkit
22:52 <@Dagmar> When you're working with a lot of different images at once, pulling pieces from here and there, it's also handy to be able to just scatter the things everywhere
22:53 -!- CNwaV [~Yaaic@68-189-190-128.dhcp.spbg.sc.charter.com] has joined #se2600
22:54 < CNwaV> Cards win..
22:54 <@Dagmar> Fuck them
22:54 <@Dagmar> They got between me and Fringe
22:54 < RangerZ> so i heard there was baseball still being played
22:54 < RangerZ> i almost cared
22:54 <@Evilpig> really?  I am not watching.  the shirt proofs just hit my inbox and they are so far from right this is insane
22:54 < CNwaV> Uh oh
22:56 < RangerZ> in what way? (and i'm assuming PN shirts)
22:56 <@Evilpig> sec.  i'll show the proof.  I have to get this to her tonight to get it fixed
23:01 < RangerZ> how bad is it?
23:02 < RangerZ> is it as bad as my high school choir shirt... everyone's name was listed in light grey
23:02 < RangerZ> except the last person on the list, his was in a darker grey
23:02 < RangerZ> and he was the only Black guy in our section
23:02 < RangerZ> LOL... it was a printer's error, they messed up the colors on a re-print(to add his name to the shirts)
23:03 < RangerZ> but hilarious none-the-less
23:03 < RangerZ> lol
23:04 <@Evilpig> the colors are inverted
23:04 <@Evilpig> so yeah bad
23:04 <@Evilpig> I had to rework the design for printing on white and black and it was backward in the proof
23:06 <@Dagmar> Whoops
23:07 <@Evilpig> i'd swear she just handed them one of the images I sent her and they inverted part of it.
23:07 < RangerZ> ouch
23:08 <@Evilpig> http://i.imgur.com/pfLAL.png  <-- what it should look like
23:09 <@Evilpig> minus the date on the left side.  I killed that cause it just didn't work
23:09 <@Evilpig> the proof I got.  oh and you see my photoshop tools and windows spread across both monitors. http://i.imgur.com/JJpSB.jpg
23:11 <@brimstone> they messed up the fills
23:11 <@brimstone> how'd that happen?
23:11 <@Evilpig> they used the WRONG image
23:11 <@Evilpig> I sent them two
23:11 <@Evilpig> one for black print,  one for white
23:11 <@brimstone> they inverted the white one and put it on a black shirt
23:11 <@Evilpig> yup
23:11 <@brimstone> did you call it "whiteshirt.jpg" ?
23:11 <@Evilpig> which the design looked like ass like that which is why I sent them two
23:11 <@brimstone> or .png or .ai or whatever you hip kids use
23:12 < RangerZ> .alibaba
23:12 <@Evilpig> sent them a jpg for a preview, a tiff for printing and a psd as well
23:12 <@Evilpig> pn15 - shirt - white on black.jpg
23:12 <@Evilpig> and the other was black on white
23:12 <@brimstone> ... how?
23:12 <@Dagmar> email?
23:13 <@Evilpig> email yeah
23:13 <@Evilpig> intitially I sent her an email with two links.  each was a link to a zip file.  one had the tiffs.  the other had the psds
23:13 <@Evilpig> she claimed to not have anything to open a zip
23:13 <@Evilpig> so then I sent her links to all the individual files.
23:14 <@Evilpig> broken down by sections for all the different pieces.
23:16 < RangerZ> Evilpig: then you tell her "I'm the customer, you will use what i send you"
23:16 < RangerZ> if you can't unzip something, then you are using windows 98
23:16 <@brimstone> win98 had unzip support in explorer i thought
23:17 <@Evilpig> she referred to the zip file and said she didn't have any of that fancy image editing software
23:17 < RangerZ> nope
23:17 < RangerZ> you needed winzip
23:17 < RangerZ> before MS bought it
23:17 < ware> wee
23:17 <@brimstone> wait, a print shop doesn't have "fancy image editing software" ?
23:17 <@Evilpig> I just responded to them with all teh correct art and sent along this as a reference. http://phreaknic.info/pn15/images/pn15-shirts.png
23:17 <@Evilpig> she's in sales
23:17 <@brimstone> then why's she opening the images?
23:17 <@Evilpig> she gets the art from me, and passes along
23:18 <@Evilpig> but not one single company does all the swag...
23:18 <@brimstone> she doesn't need to open it to pass it along
23:18 < RangerZ> Evilpig: I don't blame you, but you really shouldn't tell others this, unless you are warning them to go to another shirt press
23:18 <@Evilpig> she's old and not a computer user dealing with computer users
23:18 < RangerZ> lol
23:19 <@Evilpig> they're a great place.  I can't say that enough.  she just needs some computer classes.  she is your typical older lady
23:21 < CNwaV> Cant open a zip... Seriously, it cant be the first zip that was sent to her...
23:22 < CNwaV> Time for some battlefield.3
23:22 <@Evilpig> CNwaV: did you have any trouble getting that to install?
23:22 <@Evilpig> my buddy jason in vegas is bitching that he can't install.  called tech support and they claim his machine doesn't meet minimum reqs
23:22 < CNwaV> On xbox..
23:22 <@Evilpig> pc...  damnit
23:23 < CNwaV> I only game on consoles...
23:23 <@Evilpig> his machine.  Radeon 5870, 8GB ram, i7 something or other
23:23 < CNwaV> No sense in spending all that money constantly to keep res and fps up on new games
23:24 < CNwaV> Hehe, yeah, that should meet the specs
23:25 < RangerZ> i buy a new PC every 3~4 years, and i've never found a game i can't play
23:25 < RangerZ> maybe not on highest res
23:25 < RangerZ> but w/e
23:25 <@Evilpig> shit like this is why people are really turning to torrents
23:26 <@Evilpig> yes there still are cheap fucks like me.  but broken installers that you can only download through origin are fail
23:26 < RangerZ> GOG.com is really good
23:27 < RangerZ> DRM free games , hell MOO 2 you had to edit your extended ram vs expanded...
23:27 <@Evilpig> alright.  back to this badge.  fix this text on teh backs then these will be good to go
23:27 < RangerZ> jesus that was a PITA
23:55 <@Evilpig> little tech support out of the way.  back to my badge printing
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