--- Log opened Sat Oct 15 00:00:53 2011
00:21 <@Evilpig> lol.  check the title. http://www.devilsdungeon.net/
00:41 < rangerz> ohh, and here i thought you were going to some bdsm site with a domain like that
00:41 < rangerz> lol
00:53 < daswork> Heh.
00:56 < daswork> So have I mentioned my obsession with "A Song of Ice and Fire"?
00:57 <@Bahhumbug> Is that the theme song?
00:58 < daswork> The series.
00:58 < daswork> George R R Martin.
00:58 < daswork> Fantasy done right.
00:59 < daswork> It kind of reminds me if you crossed the typical medieval-era fantasy novel with the 30 years war.
01:00 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah, the theme is memorable.
01:00 <@Bahhumbug> BTW, wife and I went to a book signing of Martin's in Nashville a few years back.
01:01 <@Bahhumbug> He's a pretty nice guy.
01:02 < daswork> Tell him to write book #6.  :p
01:02 < daswork> It is a good series of books though.
01:02 < daswork> Fantasy is much better when the author goes "Plot armour?  Fuck that!"
01:05 <@Bahhumbug> When he killed off Ned I was left sitting there thinking "what the fuck?  no author does that to a lead character.  it just doesn't happen."
01:05 < daswork> Yah.
01:05 < daswork> Wait until book 3/season 3(?).
01:05 < daswork> George R R Martin takes the "anyone can die" up to 11.
01:05 <@Bahhumbug> indeed
01:05 <@Bahhumbug> You like Jordan at all?
01:06 < daswork> Not a big fan.
01:06 < daswork> His books reminds me of Zeno's paradox.
01:06 < daswork> Like, each book goes 1/2 towards the resolution of the series.
01:06 <@Bahhumbug> I like his stuff quite a bit, personally.  Too bad he had to up and DIE :/
01:07 < daswork> I worry about that with Martin.
01:07 < daswork> Gawdamn it, but he has to finish the series.
01:07 <@Bahhumbug> Indeed.
01:07 < daswork> Btw, in regards to Ned, book #5 has a great bit about a dumbass who decides to visit a dragon.
01:08 <@Bahhumbug> I've not read 5.
01:08 <@Bahhumbug> I think we've got it sitting on the shelf.
01:08 < daswork> Well, lets just say someone has a bad plan, and it's the Song of Ice and Fire universe.
01:08 <@Bahhumbug> I started re-reading Jordan's stuff.
01:08 < daswork> So the results are pretty predictable.
01:08 <@Bahhumbug> heh
01:08 < daswork> Other than Sansa, stupidity seems to leads to rapid death in Martin's universe.
01:09 < daswork> By the way, read the Dunk & Egg novellas yet?
01:09 < daswork> #1 & #3 are good.  #2 is kinda bleh.
01:10 <@Bahhumbug> Nope.  On the list.  Along with roughly 786908873456987364593847659187136459873659345 (roughly) other items I'd like to read before I die.
01:10 < daswork> I think ASoI&F can be summed up with this quote:  "Rhaegar fought valiantly, Rhaegar fought nobly, Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaegar died."
01:11 <@Bahhumbug> heh
01:11 < daswork> Doesn't it sum up that universe?
01:11 < daswork> "Yah, you're right, but fuck it, someone was more clever than you"
01:12 < daswork> By the way, Book #5 drops an interesting hint that Rickon (Ned's father) had southern ambitions.
01:12 < daswork> Sorry for the spoily, but it's mentioned in passing.
01:12 < daswork> Not really a big thing, but it puts the war of Robert's Rebellion in a slightly different light.
01:12 <@Bahhumbug> tis fine.  I'm old.  My somtimers disease is becoming more and more prevalent.
01:12 <@Bahhumbug> sometimers, even
01:13 <@Bahhumbug> and yeah, that pretty much sums up the universe.
01:13 <@Bahhumbug> I want to go drinking with the midget.
01:13 <@Bahhumbug> Even though I rarely drink I think that would be a blast.
01:13 < daswork> I really had a "fridge logic" moment when I realized why he drank and whored.
01:14 <@Bahhumbug> His old man's a cunt.
01:14 <@Bahhumbug> And that's being nice about it.
01:18 < daswork> Yes.
01:18 < daswork> But he did end up raping his wife, who was not a whore.
01:20 <@Bahhumbug> killing him on the toilet was perhaps one of the best moments I've come across in a book.
01:22 < daswork> Yes.  Especially for the brick joke.
01:24 <@Bahhumbug> Sigh, now I want to reread Martin's stuff.
01:24 < daswork> Read the novellas.
01:24 < daswork> They are good.
01:24 < daswork> Unfortunately, if you remember the main series well, you know how the main characters in the novellas die.  :(
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01:42 < CNwaV> Ok... I found a really quick way to fuck up yaaic
03:19 <@Catonic> fully automatic shotgun loaded with flechette rounds?
06:35 <@Evilpig> anyone awake?
07:24 < MaxieZ> I am now.  Stupid kids
07:27 <@Evilpig> heh
07:27 <@Evilpig> I know I didn't get you that file.  got really tied up and dolemite told me I need to redo it
07:28 <@Evilpig> was working on the graphics for the PN swag and was looking for opinions but... already sent to the printer now
07:32 < MaxieZ> Ah.  I'm not very good at graphics anyways.
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07:34 <@Evilpig> this was more of a look and say you liked it or not.  I finally got notlarry to do it.  working on some product mockups now
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07:43 <@Evilpig> MaxieZ: what excuse did you give me for not coming?  :)
07:43 < MaxieZ> Not coming where?
07:44 <@Evilpig> phreaknic of course
07:44 < MaxieZ> Oh.  Well, I haven't decided I'm not officially, but it seems doubtful.
07:45 < MaxieZ> I just can't afford the hotel room as sad as that is.
07:45 <@Evilpig> dolemite needs someone to split his room with... just sayin'
07:45 < MaxieZ> But...I still have hope.
07:46 < MaxieZ> I know I went one year without a room and just kind of winged it :)
07:46 <@Evilpig> how muhc of that year do you remember?
07:46 < MaxieZ> A good bit actually.  I think that was 7
07:47 < MaxieZ> I never woke up in Corydon76's room if that's what you're asking.
07:47 <@Evilpig> lol
07:50 < MaxieZ> Even if I didn't like PN, I like going to PN.  The drive is really nice.
07:50 < MaxieZ> But I do like PN.
07:50 < MaxieZ> So, I never not want to go.
07:51 <@Evilpig> I really hope it goes good this year.
07:51 < MaxieZ> So, nice drive + Monells + cool people > sitting on my ass at home everytime
07:51 <@Evilpig> mmm meat plate
07:51 <@Evilpig> That is on the schedule this year too
07:51 < MaxieZ> I saw that.
07:52 < MaxieZ> Do they know that?
07:52 <@Evilpig> I need to run by there
07:52 < MaxieZ> I suppose the turn out will be about the same with the drunken activities of the night before.
07:52 <@Evilpig> yeah.  some years it has more of a turn out than others.  but with it onteh schedule people will at least know ahead of time
07:52 < MaxieZ> Yeah.
07:53 <@Evilpig> this css file is getting complicated.  haha
07:53 < MaxieZ> I have been trying to get people at work to go, but haven't gotten many bites.
07:54 < MaxieZ> I thought we could do a company outing up there.
07:54 <@Evilpig> you can always use the argument of "let's goto nashville and see if we can't meet the dumbshits at vanderbilt that we keep calling"  heh
07:54 < MaxieZ> Well, we have customers up there.
07:54 < MaxieZ> Who's calling?
07:55 <@Evilpig> y'all rarely call.  normally just email.  got a call a few weeks ago about some probing hitting us
07:55 <@Evilpig> the firewall monitoring guys
07:55 < MaxieZ> Ah.
07:56 < MaxieZ> Maybe we could convince Tom to defect :)
07:56 <@Evilpig> Pretty sure his rant this year is going to be one for the ages
07:58 <@Evilpig> swag item #1 shopped and ready for display.  onto the water bottle
08:28 <@Evilpig> not my best shop. http://phreaknic.info/pn15/images/pn15-waterbottle.png
08:41 <@Catonic> ye gods.
08:41 <@Catonic> Hi MaxieZ, good to see you're alive and well.
08:50 < MaxieZ> Thank you, Catonic.  I am indeed alive.
08:53 < ragechin> Gnets
08:54 < ragechin> er, Gents
08:55 <@Evilpig> damnit.  this :hover isn't working.  arrrrrrrgggg
09:02 < ragechin> Evilpig: how's your awk?
09:02 <@Evilpig> pretty shitty
09:02 < ragechin> k, i feel better than :P
09:02 <@Evilpig> anything i can do to help.  lol
09:02 <@Evilpig> when doing a :hover element you want to use background instead of background-image.  I feel retarded
09:03 < ragechin> I have a date string (1984/04/15) that I'm rearraigning through awk. I'm trying to get awk to not to math bullshit and display the /'s
09:03 < ragechin> awk -F '/' '{print $3\/$2\/$1}'
09:03 < ragechin> doesn't seem to do the trick
09:04 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: would know if he was paying attn
09:06 <@Evilpig> i would sit down and try to figure it out but i'm gonna climb into bed.  I didn't realize it was already 9
09:06 < ragechin> heh. no worries.
09:06 < ragechin> sleep well, sir.
09:06 < ragechin> nevermind, got it
09:07 < ragechin> awk -F '/' '{print $3"/"$2"/"$1}'
09:07 <@Evilpig> damnit.  forgot to sync site
09:08 <@Evilpig> all the webdata for this year is getting big.  I have over 60MB up there now
09:08 < ragechin> damn
09:09 <@Evilpig> I did upload tif's of the swag graphics, the psd's, and I have several PDFs up there as well.  not everything is website data, exactly
09:09 < ragechin> but related data
09:10 <@Evilpig> yeah
09:10 <@Evilpig> /images/       26M 2011-05-17 05:22 badge-for-printer.tif
09:11 < ragechin> heh
09:11 <@Evilpig> looks like I have an uncompressed psd up there too.  i'll take care of that later
09:11 < ragechin> I worked at a school district several years ago.
09:11 < ragechin> The yearbook class has so much... shit... it got annoying.
09:11 < ragechin> We had to buy a 300G drive just to hold all their crap. It didn't go over well
09:12 < ragechin> of course, they were all tiff's
09:12 <@Evilpig> gotta keep that stuff lossless
09:12 <@Evilpig> nobody wants artifacts in the yearbook
09:12 < ragechin> yeah, and I understand that. But, keeping archives from 3 years ago is a bit much
09:13 <@Evilpig> I will say that photoshop needs a direct svg import, damnit.  this shit of opening it in illustrator then importing the path is some bullshit
09:53 < ware> Dagmar:
09:53 < ware> yall know how to disable flock shit on ms keyboards
09:53 < ware> i cant get into the raid controller on this pc and it's acting like the flock key isnt on or something
09:54 < ware> but ive tried it with the flock light lit and not lit by swapping pc's and hittin the button
09:54 < ware> frustrating
09:54 < ware> dont have another keyboard atm either
09:56 <@Sheath> did you try turning it off and on
09:57 < ware> no lemme try that brb
09:59 < ware> got a different error message
09:59 < ware> says "HEY COIL SHUT THE FUCK UP"
10:00 <@Sheath> did it work
10:07 < ware> no
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14:56 <@Evilpig> i hate keyboards that are like that
15:31 < rangerz> ugh... i just thought i was going to have to go to the hospital... coughed up blackness....then i realized i just ate an oreo... it is ok, lol
15:32 < rangerz> but back to why i switched to this channel, is there a local maker's group in nashville that anyone knows about?
15:36 <@Evilpig> only the one
15:36 <@Evilpig> unfortunately
15:37 < rangerz> the one?
15:38 <@Evilpig> the hacker consortium
15:38 < rangerz> ohh.... "good" name
15:38 <@Evilpig> skydick's personal fiefdom
15:40 <@Evilpig> the HC is an amazing idea.  when it was started I was fully supportive as was the rest of the local 2600 group. after it got nonprofit status and had its bylaws set where skydick is president for life it pretty much took a turn for the elitist
15:40 <@Evilpig> he likes to invite other maker groups in to see how it is setup and run yet discourages any interaction with the group from where it was spawned out of.
15:41 < rangerz> thats why term limits are so needed
15:41 < rangerz> in any position
15:41 <@Bahhumbug> the solution is obvious.
15:41 <@Bahhumbug> set him on fire.
15:41 <@Evilpig> I've had many projects that would be perfect to do up there, but I never had teh time or money due to my job stuff going on to pay the membership fees, etc
15:43 <@Evilpig> I will say again the HC is a fucking amazing idea.  There should be a place that people can go towork on projects, help others, share their individual skills.  the problem is the toxic social environment built up around that one
15:46 < MaxieZ> We have Freeside in Atlanta.
15:47 <@Evilpig> and the makerslocal 256 in huntsville
15:47 <@Evilpig> knoxville is trying to get a makers shop setup.  memphis has one as well.  
15:47 <@Evilpig> pumpstation one I think is what memphis is called
15:47 <@Evilpig> but nashville only has the one
15:48  * brimstone represents
15:48 < ragechin> Hrmmm
15:50 <@Evilpig> brimstone is part of the makers local 256
15:50 <@CRasH180> I wondered what the hell happened with HC
15:50 <@CRasH180> Had not heard much of it in quite some time
15:51 <@CRasH180> Now, I know why
15:52 <@Evilpig> yup.  it's a real shame how that has happened
15:52 <@CRasH180> Oh well. If you don't like it. Start up your own shop, if the community will support and stand behind it.
15:52 <@CRasH180> The main part is community support
15:53 <@Evilpig> that's the part that is thin.  the community pretty much split in two
15:54 <@CRasH180> yep
15:54 <@CRasH180> As most groups do
15:54 <@CRasH180> The leadership must be strong and the community support behind it must be as well
15:55 <@CRasH180> Otherwise, it will falter and crumble.
15:56 <@CRasH180> I do not have much time for stuff like this any more. Going to group meetings. My days are filled with other things. It is where my life has transitioned. Although, I am feeling the need to transition back
15:58 <@CRasH180> Going to a birthday party. ttyl
15:58 <@Evilpig> later
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16:06 < rangerz> Evilpig: i like what some of the schools up north are doing, (only a few so far) , but they are building hack spaces with professional tools, 6 axis cutters, 3d printers, all the standards wood/metal/electronic tools you could imagine
16:07 < rangerz> and then like 100$/year to go like 18hrs a day if you want
16:07 < rangerz> and you can order your raw materials through them, and get the school's bulk discount
16:08 < rangerz> there are a couple in cali like that, and 1 in ohio, mi, pa i think
16:15 <@Evilpig> that's pretty neat.  a school subsidizing a space like that
16:20 < rangerz> yeah, there was a big 60min(or like show) thing on it, and all
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19:07 <@VampirePenguin> lol
19:07 <@VampirePenguin> hello
19:08 <@VampirePenguin> i saw a funny picture..
19:08 <@VampirePenguin> if you dont like gay marriage... dont get gay married
19:15 <@VampirePenguin> hmmm i was gonna ask Evilpig something and i forgot
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19:38 <@Bahhumbug> He has better drugs than I ever had.
20:12 < rangerz> so i'm glad FTL is becoming a commonly used acronym on slashdot
20:13 < rangerz> no space shuttle, no good star trek tv show, no babylon 5, hell not even stargate, our current generation isn't going to dream about the stars like they should be ;(
20:58 < Dickie> What's the current "not good" Star Trek show?
20:58 <@Evilpig> there isn't one
20:58 < Dickie> I almost pooped
20:58 < Dickie> Stupid Enterprise killed the franchise
21:00 <@Evilpig> I didn't think enterprise was that bad.  they just really needed some better writing
21:01 < daswork> There's a woman on the interstate entrance ramp, on the grass, right near my apartment.
21:01 < daswork> I don't know if she's drunk or on drugs or crazy, but she's yelling incoherently.
21:01  * daswork feels bad, but he called 911 on her.
21:02 < daswork> On one hand, she's probably just a harmless crazy homeless person.
21:02 < daswork> But on the other hand, she's not acting sane right next to where traffic is going about 45 mph and where drivers aren't expecting to see pedestrians.
21:04 <@Evilpig> I think this is the point when you are supposed to setup a camera and record for ummm...  uh.... I dunno.  oh fuckit I wanna see a crazy lady get plowed
21:06 < rangerz> well there HAS'T been a good Star Trek show since DS9 (parts ov voyager, but ehh)
21:06 < rangerz> but DS9 is only liked by those who like ongoing-long storylines
21:06 <@Evilpig> DS9 had potential
21:07 < rangerz> look at the babylon 5 series, since excalibur it has just floated in the ether not doing anything
21:08 < rangerz> and they aren't going to take those new star trek movie actors and make them tv show actors
21:09 < rangerz> the only 'canon' star trek that hasn't been shown at all, is The New Frontier... and thats just too far out there
21:09 < daswork> There's a hobo camp not too far from where I live.  But they tend to be nice and quiet.
21:10 < rangerz> exploding planets, "gods" , santa cluase, Q being talked down to like a little school yard bully
21:10 < rangerz> lol
21:38 < ware> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOGYn1CN4PM
22:10 < rangerz> ware: that song is on a lot of european techno stations
22:11 < rangerz> but thanks, b/c i didn't know its name offhand
22:16 < rangerz> though personally i'm still looking for a(the) ban-ya CDs (from korea) from the Pump it Up dance games http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtKCNJmARF0
22:25 <@Evilpig> WoW people.  wtf is this blue thing? http://i.imgur.com/GUg1o.jpg
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22:35 < rangerz> mana tank
22:36 < rangerz> the blue gives it away, red one would be for health ;)
22:48 <@Dagmar> WTF.
22:48 <@Dagmar> I've never seen that before
22:52 < eryc> you can fly anywhere on magic carpets now?
22:52 <@Dagmar> If you're a tailor, sure.
22:53 <@Dagmar> THat's the tailor-specific mount (not joking).  It's been in there since Wrath, possibly BC
22:53 < eryc> i haven't played in years
22:53 <@Dagmar> Practically the only profession that doesn't get a mount is leatherworkig, and that doesn't really bear thinking about.
22:54 < rangerz> but does it boar thinking about?
22:55 <@Evilpig> yeah it was introduced in BC
22:56 <@Dagmar> I'm not riding around on a trussed up Tauren.
22:57 <@Dagmar> Not happening.
22:58 <@Evilpig> I was up there between queues, obvious it had just popped, but that was so strange I had to screenshot it
23:04 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Well, whatever the fuck it is.  It's new.
23:10 <@Dagmar> Finally getting arond to trying the new Dragon Age II DLC
23:11 <@Evilpig> it isn't there now.  it was only there that minute
23:12 <@Dagmar> Oh yeah....
23:13 <@Dagmar> Now I remember...
23:13 <@Dagmar> THEY TOOK MY ELF
23:13 <@Dagmar> I am going to seriously fuck up every roundear that gets in my way for that
23:14 <@Dagmar> We're gonna find out how DAII handles it when Hawke goes spare
23:14 <@Dagmar> Storylines tend to rely somewhat heavily on people being left alive
23:46 <@Catonic> evening folks.
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