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00:11 <@Evilpig> [00:10:20] [G] [85:Evilpig]: flamez.  mouse buttons.
00:11 <@Evilpig> [00:10:33] [G] [85:Fluffywuffy]: I did!  But I don't want to get a Naga or anything. D:
00:11 <@Evilpig> [00:10:50] [G] [85:Evilpig]: I want a naga.  But my apt won't let me dig it a moa
00:11 <@Evilpig> that should have gotten at least a chuckle damnit!
00:12 <@Evilpig> moat*
00:12 <@Evilpig> not sure why the t didn't copy
00:52 < ragechin> ho hum
00:52  * ragechin hums
00:52 < ragechin> evenin, Evilpig
00:52 < ragechin> hows the shift treatin' ya?
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02:07 <@Evilpig> ragechin: I love that shift actually
02:13 < ragechin> nice and quiet, can automate most of wha tyou do?
02:15 < ragechin> mother fucker
02:15  * ragechin sighs
02:15 < ragechin> I'm fighting podcast automated grabs
02:16 < ragechin> the fucking ID3 tags fuck everything up
02:16 < ragechin> because the assholes that tag this shit can't fucking stay consistant
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03:45 <@Evilpig> nah.  alot of the stuff there is calling and documenting
03:45 <@Evilpig> no easy way to automate it.  it's just easy work especially if you're detail oriented
03:46 <@Evilpig> worst part of that job is I have a manager that wants to be your friend instead of a manager. I have a few coworkers that shouldn't have the jobs they do.  most of the people I work with have no work ethic whatsoever and that is very frustrating
03:47 <@Evilpig> I've always been of the understanding that if you have a job and they are paying you to do that job you do it to the best of your ability or not at all
03:51 <@Bahhumbug> Blasphemy
03:51 <@Bahhumbug> You need to stay out of corporate life.
03:51 <@Bahhumbug> You will be quite disappointed.
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05:45 <@Evilpig> the corporate bullshit is annoying as fuck
05:46 <@Evilpig> if that job wasn't so easy i'd probably go and try to work there where ware does. but I really don't have any motivation for more stress and more work when I have this cushy position where I end up playing wow for 6 or 7 hours
05:46 <@Evilpig> or work on the phreaknic stuff, etc
05:46 <@Bahhumbug> heh
05:47 <@Bahhumbug> being paid to game is always a nice bonus
08:12 < ware> Dagmar: yah 1 mount and a shit ton of tokens is all i got on 4 toons
08:12 < ware> no titles, wee
08:50 <@sdodson> What's ksh's selling point?
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08:56 <@Evilpig> no titles?
08:59 < ware> http://qnrq.se/full-disclosure-american-express/
09:00 <@opticron> that link sounds bad
09:00 < ware> opticron: it's worse than that
09:00 < ware> he's dead, jim.
09:01 <@Evilpig> I'm looking at it.  typical corporate BS if you try to be a good citizen 
09:04 < ware> i didnt hit the amex link
09:04 < ware> but apparently its still live
09:04 < ware> the /us/admin crap
09:05 <@Evilpig> you don't have to hit to link to see what the exploit is he listed it and how to abuse it.  lol
09:06 <@Evilpig> just got two more pre-reg's
09:07 <@Evilpig> someone uploaded a picture of Corydon76-home's rabbit for their badge too.
09:09 <@Dagmar> I think I'm just going to stop answering the fucking phone when that 0473 number shows up
09:09 <@Evilpig> is that my desk?
09:10 <@Dagmar> No it's the generic outbound call CID vandy uses
09:10 <@Dagmar> Last night a certain moron called again
09:10 < ware> RAPE HIS ASS
09:10 <@Dagmar> To ask me to put some things back into Nagios for his change so that he could tell whether or not they workd
09:10 <@Corydon76-home> sdodson: If you use one of the many legacy Unix operating systems, it's the default.
09:10 <@Dagmar> ...because he's too fuckign incompetent to figure out SNMPwalk
09:10 <@Evilpig> was about to say.  which fucking idiot.  could have been ben, titus, rafiq, tony d, etc
09:11 <@Dagmar> No, they don't hold a candle to him
09:12 <@Dagmar> It was after business hours, his change started in _MINUTES_, and I was at Bongo trying to get the fucking pill spam back out of the Dropline site
09:12 <@Dagmar> I told him I couldn't make him in any promises but I'd try to get them back in there
09:12 <@Dagmar> He fucking called Peter apparently
09:12 <@Dagmar> So, after I've walked next door to buy a lighter and sat back down and already had 3 of the four machines back into the system, Peter is messageing me about it
09:13 <@Dagmar> THat was my _last_ bit of tolerance for his bullshit going up in smoke right there
09:13 <@Evilpig> heh.  are you sure they don't hold a candle to him?  I left lables for them to replace where one of the idiots was labeling the cables in the expansion slots as "server name  PICx<cr>switch port"
09:13 <@Dagmar> I am SURE
09:14 <@Dagmar> I've never seen any of them try and pretend they actually know what they're talking about
09:14 < ware> DROP DOX
09:14 < ware> noobs will pay
09:14 <@Dagmar> This is only like the fifth time this idiot has called me up in the evening without really any warning, wanting me to do his job for him
09:15 <@Dagmar> He's called me more in the recent past than I think I called Mirage about systems I'd never logged into before
09:15 <@Dagmar> Now I am heading into the office
09:15 <@Dagmar> I took a couple sleeping pills last night so I could sleep instead of just staying really pissed off
09:15 <@Dagmar> ...so I slept through bloody everything this morning.
09:18 <@Evilpig> wtf sci-fi.  I think this is ridiculous even for a marathon.  they are showing the ghost whisperer from 8am to 7pm
09:21 <@Corydon76-home> They had a few violent and creepy episodes
09:44 <@opticron> *syfy
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09:49 < Islander108> anyone know when the schedule for PhreakNIC 15 will be posted
09:50 < Islander108> is anyone actually here?
09:50 <@brimstone> nope, all dead
09:51 < Islander108> So what's the deal with phreakNIC? seems like SkyDog is going to be the better con now....
09:52 < Islander108> cant find speaker topics or schedule anywhere.... and obviously their chat channel is a bust
09:53 <@brimstone> the chat channel isn't a bust, you just pop in here and expect results in <60s
09:53 < Islander108> i would prefer an email lol
09:54 <@brimstone> where did you email?
09:55 <@brimstone> hello?????
09:55 < Islander108> sending one to root@se2600.org
09:56 <@brimstone> alright then
09:58 <@Corydon76-home> The schedule is typically not finalized until 1-2 weeks out.  Even then, there are changes on the day-of.
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09:59 < Islander108> okie dokie.  My group is trying to decide between phreakNIC and SkyDog so we will just wait until we can see both schedules. Thanks for the info.
10:00 <@brimstone> why between?
10:00 <@brimstone> Skydog con picked their date so you could go to both
10:00 < Islander108> ... they changed the date?
10:01 <@Corydon76-home> brimstone: heh.  You mean, so it would conflict?
10:02 <@brimstone> Islander108: it wasn't changed, it was set
10:02 < Islander108> the website says November 4th?
10:02 < Islander108> where did you find this
10:02 <@brimstone> where did i find what?
10:03 < Islander108> that skydog changed their date. As far as I know both cons are on the weekend of the 4th
10:03 <@brimstone> right
10:03 <@brimstone> skydogcon was set on 11/4 so you could go to both cons
10:04 < Islander108> its a school funded trip, money is a factor
10:04 <@brimstone> right, so you save on travel fees
10:06 < Islander108> no, we would only make one trip regardless.  Have to pay both entrance fees.
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10:43 < ware> anyone mod a xbox360 before?
10:52 <@Evilpig> brimstone: please don't spread skydick's bullshit in here like that
10:52 <@sdodson> Corydon76-home: ok, legacy stuff makes sense.
10:53 <@brimstone> that's the reason i was told Evilpig
10:53 <@Evilpig> we all know that is the bullshit is he saying but itt isn't the fucking truth
10:54 <@Evilpig> that guy didn't send anything to the root list
10:55 <@brimstone> is it root@ ?
10:55 <@Evilpig> if he did.  he did is as unsubbed and it got bitcaned
10:55 <@Evilpig> yeah
10:55 <@Evilpig> but you have to be subscribed to post there
10:55 <@brimstone> does someone get those bounces to review?
10:55 <@Evilpig> nope
10:55 <@brimstone> maybe phreaknic needs it's own info list?
10:55 <@Evilpig> that thing get anywhere from 100-1000 spam posts a day so they got shafted
10:56 <@Evilpig> phreaknic had one but nobody was subscribed.  same reason it got nuked
10:56 <@brimstone> i don't think i knew it had one
10:56 <@Evilpig> takes 5 sec to subscribe to post
10:56 <@Evilpig> skydick set it up a few years back
10:56 <@brimstone> if they know it's a mailing list
10:56 <@Evilpig> there is al ink on the site that has a link to the sign up
10:58 <@Evilpig> in all seriousness.  can we stop with the bullshit of skydog set the dates the same so people could goto both.  I mean come the fuck on.  as if it isn
10:58 <@Evilpig> t bad enough he is already doing this nonsense
11:03 <@Evilpig> damnit that is the murray state group
11:04 <@brimstone> sounds like you need to get the schedule out
11:04 <@brimstone> at least what you have
11:04 <@brimstone> SDC's isn't finished either
11:04 <@brimstone> and they don't have talk descriptions, just speaker - title
11:05 <@Evilpig> he won't have talk descriptions.  that is how he does things
11:05 <@Evilpig> he'll slap them up last minute as he has done in the past
11:05 <@brimstone> you can 1-up him there
11:06 <@Evilpig> what I need is for people to stop spreading his bullshit.  I'm really close to saying I don't care how this turns out this year i'm gonna fuck off after this and let him claim victory in destroying eveythig that was good about thiss group]
11:07 <@Evilpig> tired of fighting just to have trolls fuel the fire
11:07 <@Evilpig> i've been doing hat i've been doing because I actually like the community and not for the publicity
11:08 <@Evilpig> there is a reason I am not the president.  notlarry can take all the credit for what happens.  i don't care.  I wanna be left alone to get shit done
11:09 <@brimstone> how is notlarry? i don't near from him anymore
11:13 <@Evilpig> he is having some severe money issues, working alot, been at the hospital after his wife's accident, his kid got suspended, he's playing wow,  I think he's lost his mind
11:14 <@brimstone> geeze
11:14 <@Evilpig> on top of allthat.  he's been dealing with skydick too
11:18 <@brimstone> persistancy with a nickname takes effort
11:19 <@Evilpig> it's been changed in my brain
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11:25 <@Evilpig> schedule links are active
11:25 <@Evilpig> all praise perl.  i really want to learn perl.  I guess I should buy a book or something
11:25 <@Evilpig> perl -i -p -e "s/<li>Schedule<\/li>/<li><a href=\"schedule.php\">Schedule<\/a><\/li>/" *.html
11:25 <@Evilpig> perl -i -p -e "s/<li>Schedule<\/li>/<li><a href=\\\\\"schedule.php\\\\\">Schedule<\/a><\/li>/" *.php
11:25 <@Evilpig> damnit
11:29 <@Evilpig> corydon you going to the saucer tonight?  considered it?
11:30 <@Corydon76-home> I'm considering it.  After yesterday's adventure under the sink, I'm rather sore
11:32 <@Corydon76-home> I still can't believe how much gunk was in that drainpipe
11:33 <@Corydon76-home> 3-4 cubic inches of gunk, at least.
11:35 <@Evilpig> let me know if you do.  I'd like to go hang out and get around some other geeks
11:36 <@Evilpig> pn is on the nashville geeks shared calendar now too.  sent them a message last night and it's there today
11:36 <@Corydon76-home> The guys at Firefly are pretty cool.
11:37 < ware> whats at the saucer tonight?
11:37 <@Evilpig> Mirage had a similar situation with one of the pipes under his new house.  he told me he ended up replacing like 15' of it
11:38 <@Evilpig> geek social
11:38 <@Evilpig> it's the thursday before the 2600 meeting each month
11:56 <@Corydon76-home> Thankfully the clog I had was above the P trap
11:58 <@Sheath> pee trap
11:59 <@Corydon76-home> It's shaped like a "P" turned 90 degrees.
12:06 < ware> and sounds like penis
12:12 <@Dagmar> lol
12:13 <@Dagmar> Minecraft 1.9p3 comes with free noob towers http://i.imgur.com/P0Nal.jpg
12:16 < ragechin> Evilpig: still around?
12:22 <@Evilpig> yes
12:23 < ragechin> mind if I PM super quick?
12:23 <@Evilpig> sure
12:25 <@Dagmar> evilpig: In the thing above... use | instead of /
12:25 <@Dagmar> Less "leaning toothpick syndrome"
12:25 < ragechin> aye
12:25 < ragechin> alt delims ftw
12:25 <@Dagmar> hell yeah
12:29 <@Evilpig> I dicked with it til it worked.  I know nothing
12:30 <@Evilpig> doesn't matter now.  updated the menu bits and it's all posted
12:31 <@Evilpig> still waiting to hear back from m00t
12:31 <@Evilpig> letting the netbook go sleepy time now.  gonna try to sleep and hit up the geek socialat 6
12:31 <@Dagmar> Just trust me on this, eventually all those escaping slashes will blind you
12:32 <@Dagmar> Remember you can use s| | |g; or even s# # #p; if you like
12:32 <@Dagmar> The next time you have to scribble out a regexp you'll be saying *whew*
12:34 <@Evilpig> I hve to relearn regex everytime I mess with one.  you wouldn't believe the string of profanity I utter every single time i've tried
12:36 < ragechin> oh. i might
12:36  * ragechin glances towards his handle
12:45 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: The fuck I would
12:46 <@Dagmar> I know regexps pretty well and I still have to check for impressionable young'uns
12:57 <@the_hugme> regex is one of those things which falls under "the more you know, the more you realize you don't know"
13:10 < todd> There's an app for that.
13:11 < todd> It's actually pretty fucking helpful.. I have it on the iPad. Forget the name.
13:11 < todd> A cheatsheet/testing/refining tool of sorts.
13:11 < todd> The icon is an ak-47 or something.
13:12 < todd> haha.. someone actually just said "fuck IE users" in a meeting
13:13 < todd> THAT was awesome
13:14 <@the_hugme> I would not want to fuck IE users....
13:14 <@the_hugme> your person at the meeting can have them
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14:15 < MaxieZ> Aren't IE users fucked enough already?
14:15 <@Dickie> We do all right.
14:15 <@Dickie> (I have to at work)
14:17 < MaxieZ> Ah Dickie.  That's sad.  It's like the deaf people who think they're better off.
14:24 <@Dickie> We have this BI tool I develop for that can run in a browser using 1)ajax, 2)java, or 3)some lame IE plugin
14:24 <@brimstone> lame IE plugin!
14:25 <@Dickie> Some features JUST. DON'T. WORK. in 1 or 2, so we only use 3, which pisses off our engineers
14:30 < sword_> word
14:41 < ware> umm
14:41 < ware> sometimes your vendor forces you to use IE?
14:41 < ware> it works fine
14:52 <@Corydon76-home> Doesn't work so well on Linux or Mac
14:54 <@Corydon76-home> Someone needs to patent insecure software practices, then sue the crap out of companies that release crap
15:04 <@brimstone> someone else needs to patent proper software practices and release it as an open license to block the patent trolls
15:10 <@Corydon76-home> Google's already working on that
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15:20 < todd> http://code.google.com/apis/sql/ - interesting
16:09 <@Dagmar> boggle-boggle-boggle
16:35 <@Dickie> YAHTZEE!
20:04 < RangerZ> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/07/health/07prostate.html well thats interesting ...
20:04 < RangerZ> "you're probably better off not knowing that you have prostate cancer, since we can't really cure it properly anyways"
20:05 < RangerZ> "and a 1/3 of men age 40~60 have a form of prostate cancer  that wouldn't have killed them anyways"
20:10 <@Dagmar> Well, it's the truth
20:10 <@Dagmar> People die of other shit WAY before that can be a problem
20:10 <@Dagmar> ...and the cure is generally worse than the not-actually-killing-you
20:11 <@Dagmar> They've been mulling that over since at leat 2000
20:11 <@Dagmar> s/leat/least/
20:13 < RangerZ> NPR had a story about it the other day
20:13 < RangerZ> how most guys who go through the procedure don't get back their full sex lives (all lose it for a long while right after the surgery)
20:15 <@Dagmar> <Dagmar> ...and the cure is generally worse than the not-actually-killing-you
20:15 <@Dagmar> ;)
21:43 <@dasunt> I'm thinking about picking up a kindle.
21:43 <@dasunt> The lower-end version for around $139.
21:43 <@dasunt> Thoughts?
21:43 < RangerZ> i agree
21:44 <@dasunt> Now with the e-books from amazon, are those crackable?
21:44 < RangerZ> i bought the next 6 for 150$ when biglots had them, and its nice and all, but no modder community
21:44 <@dasunt> I'd rather not be tied to Amazon's whims about what I own.
21:44 < RangerZ> with over 100k of these already ordered...
21:44 < RangerZ> i'm going to assume SOMEONE is going to crack it
21:45 < RangerZ> but i'd assume it will take a few months
21:47 <@dasunt> I'm not going with the fire.
21:50 < RangerZ> i'm going to hold out for a while, and use the nook (original) and the next 7 for a while
21:50 < RangerZ> i might work on writing a better ebook reader, all the ones out there are non-free or suck
21:51 <@dasunt> I've looked at the nook.
21:51 <@dasunt> But it seems like amazon just has more ebooks.
21:53 < RangerZ> TPB has more
21:53 < RangerZ> LOL
21:53 < RangerZ> but seriously, i don't really know
21:53 < RangerZ> B&N has a _ton_ of ebooks
21:56 < RangerZ> plus most libraries have ebook shares now
21:57 < RangerZ> (though i personally haven't used them yet)
21:59 <@dasunt> Neither have I.
22:02 < RangerZ> and the nook works better with those
22:02 < RangerZ> (from what i hear)
22:02 < RangerZ> but who knows
22:10 <@Bahhumbug> Wife mentioned a couple days ago the low, low-end kindle is $79 now.
22:11 <@Bahhumbug> Also, I thought Barnes and Noble went belly-up?
22:47 < RangerZ> no, that was norders
22:47 < RangerZ> borders*
22:48 < RangerZ> barnes and noble has a freaking cash cow that almost no one knows is theirs
22:48 < RangerZ> gamestop
22:48 <@Bahhumbug> Ahh.  Thanks for the clarification.
22:49 <@Bahhumbug> I had no idea Gamestop was Barnes and Nobles.
22:49 < RangerZ> (used to work there many many moons ago, thats why i know), yeah almost no one does
22:49 < RangerZ> though 40% off paperbacks and 30% off hardbacks at B&N was a really nice bonus for working there
22:50 <@Bahhumbug> Indeed.
22:52 < RangerZ> thats standard B&N/gamestop discount
22:53 < RangerZ> though personally i enjoyed the getting of free books from b.dalton bettter (knew a girl who worked there, and software etc) and they can just rip the covers off paperbacks and send them back to the publisher for a full refund, so we could get novels, etc for free -front cover less
22:57 <@brimstone> n November 12, 2004, GameStop spun off from Barnes & Noble;
22:59 < RangerZ> huh... didn't know that
22:59 < RangerZ> i left in 2003
22:59 < RangerZ> figured they would have stayed, since gamestop made them so much $
22:59 <@brimstone> i didn't either
22:59 <@brimstone> the more you know...
23:25 < RangerZ> no no no... it is "and now you know, and knowing is half the battle...."
23:25 < ragechin> TheMoreYouKnow(tm)
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