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01:01 <@Evilpig> well that was fun
01:01 <@Evilpig> kernel dump and had to run a manual fsck
01:06 < RangerZ> have to rebuild your inodes by hand?
01:07 < RangerZ> lol
01:14 <@Evilpig> yeah
01:14 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ: next NLUG meeting is this coming Tuesday, at 6pm
01:14 <@Evilpig> mash enter a couple of times.  luckily it wasn't many
01:14 < RangerZ> @?
01:14 <@Corydon76-home> Immediately following, the group tends to relocate to Pizza Perfect
01:15 <@Corydon76-home> It's located on the Vanderbilt campus, MRB III lecture hall (external door)
01:16 <@Bahhumbug> the nlug site actually has directions and such.  although it never has accurate meeting date information.
01:17 <@Corydon76-home> I tend to park on the street near 19th & Edgehill, while others prefer to park in the Medical Center parking lot
01:18 <@Corydon76-home> Bahhumbug: it's always the second Tuesday of the month
01:20 <@Bahhumbug> I know that.  But it's not hard to actually personalize it and have a date.
01:20 <@Corydon76-home> Well, it IS a Wiki...  can be edited should you desire
01:21 <@Evilpig> Corydon76-home: if you can think of anything for a FAQ on the phreaknic site let me know.  jonnyx suggested I throw one on there.  gonna get that banged out tonight
01:22 <@Bahhumbug> I lost any desire I had a few weeks back.  *shrug*
01:22 <@Corydon76-home> Bahhumbug: you got married?  That's usually how guys lose desire
01:22 <@Evilpig> I didn't.  but maybe I wasn't married long enough
01:23 <@Bahhumbug> Corydon76-home: hehehe.  No, although my 11th anniversary is coming up next month :)
01:23 <@Corydon76-home> Today (Saturday) was our 3rd anniversary (initial meeting, not marriage)
01:23 <@Bahhumbug> 'grats
01:23 <@Corydon76-home> ty
01:24 <@Corydon76-home> I got him flowers, and we went out for dinner & a movie
01:25 <@Bahhumbug> cool
01:25 <@Bahhumbug> good movie?
01:25 <@Corydon76-home> Evilpig: Where is it?  When is it?  How much does it cost?
01:25 <@Corydon76-home> Bridesmaids.  Very good.
01:26 <@Bahhumbug> I'd toss in "what is it" as well.
01:26 <@Evilpig> the what is on the main page as well as the when but i'll dupe the info
01:26 <@Evilpig> the only thing missing from the main page is the how much
01:26 <@Corydon76-home> Evilpig: Also, "I'm poor, can I go in with somebody else for a room?"
01:27 <@Corydon76-home> We hear that one every year
01:27 <@Evilpig> yeah.  jonnyx said to put the mailing list on there for that
01:27 <@Corydon76-home> Also, "Is anybody coming from ___, from whom I can hitch a ride?"
01:28 <@Evilpig> as well as the irc info
01:28 <@Evilpig> damnit.  I can play wow or I can work on this.  oh addiction I hate you sometimes
01:28 <@Evilpig> oh well.  wow will be there later.  firing up my vm
01:29 <@Corydon76-home> If Dolemite were making a FAQ, there would be a crack about not sharing a room with Corydon, if you value your anal virginity.
01:29 <@Evilpig> I thought that was a given?
01:30 <@Corydon76-home> Well, it wasn't entirely undeserved.  I did deflower coil at one PN
01:31 <@Evilpig> adding pages was supposed to be done at this point.  damnit where was jonnyx like three weeks ago before I turned all the caching of images and css back on?
02:07 <@Dagmar> Curse admins need to clean the MInecraft forums with fire.
02:07 <@Dagmar> I'm just sayin'.
02:08 <@Evilpig> http://phreaknic.info/pn15/faq.html
02:08 <@Evilpig> now just to add content
02:08 <@Dagmar> Okay, I was about to say something... heh
02:08 <@Dagmar> Also... yay!  http://imgur.com/gallery/UD0VU
02:09 <@Evilpig> had to get the basic page up before I did anythign with it
02:09 <@Evilpig> lol
02:14 <@Evilpig> wow.  a 1.5hp pump can move an 800ton block of marble
02:17 <@Dagmar> Hydraulics are worse than magnets.
02:17 <@Dagmar> So mysterious.
02:17 <@Evilpig> this thing on the science channel about how they mine white marble out from the earth and get it to be usable
02:17 < RangerZ> personally i'd rather see how they mined in 2000~3000 BCE
02:18 <@Bahhumbug> slaves
02:18 <@Evilpig> this was neat on how they ran a beaded cable through a hole they drilled to cut into the rock
02:24 < RangerZ> yeah, thats more of what i'm talking about, i saw one where they used sharp rocks ground onto a rope, and "sorta" made something like our current diamond tipped blades (not diamond obviously, but still harder than what they were cutting)
02:34 <@Evilpig> looking back at past sites we really haven't had a faq
02:36 <@Dagmar> It needs one additional question.
02:36 <@Dagmar> "Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
02:36 <@Dagmar> The answer is, "Possibly."
02:36 <@Dagmar> ...or perhaps "Meltwater."
02:39 <@Dagmar> http://imgur.com/gallery/8vX16 I'd ride it.
02:42 <@Evilpig> Youjust melted my brain witht hat
02:46 <@Dagmar> It is possible that eventually I will get off my ass and resume constructing those masks for my scooter
02:47 <@Dagmar> ...but i'm not sure I can compete with teh awesomenesss of that bike
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03:08 <@Evilpig> I think I need to add color or something to this.  maybe italics
03:33 <@Evilpig> how is this for a start? http://phreaknic.info/pn15/faq.html
03:43 <@Dagmar> More (as in *some*) space between the headers and paragraphs
03:45 <@Dagmar> Also, just because you *can* tile something at 2x2px doesn't neccessarily mean you should
03:45 <@Dagmar> The background needs noise.
03:54 <@Evilpig> the background was the noise.  there is extra noise on the promo.html page
03:54 <@Evilpig> mainly it needed a texture cause a flat color just looked bad.
05:58 <@Evilpig> Corydon76-home: I put a corydon joke in there too.  but it is a very very weak one.  I am gonna have to rethink it
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08:40 <@VampirePenguin> hey gang
08:40 <@VampirePenguin> if any of you had family friends killed furing 9/11 peace to you
08:44 <@tcstool> The doc the history channel is showing right now is very good
08:48 <@VampirePenguin> ive been watching all morning.. i had to stop
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10:04 <@Evilpig> Dagmar, rattle: http://www.nashvillescene.com/nashville/cyber-pirates/Content?oid=1183559
10:31 <@Evilpig> can't sleep, again
10:34 < scribbles> hah
10:34 <@Evilpig> someone make me a better corydon joke than this one for the faq page.
10:34 <@Evilpig> This isn't my room
10:34 <@Evilpig> It's okay you drank a little too much last night and Corydon dragged you into his room for safety so you didn't get pwned in the hall. You might be into guys now, just FYIThis isn't my room
10:34 <@Evilpig> It's okay you drank a little too much last night and Corydon dragged you into his room for safety so you didn't get pwned in the hall. You might be into guys now, just FYIThis isn't my room
10:35 <@Evilpig> stupid netbook or terminal session. 
10:36 < scribbles> scavenger hunt piece?
10:37 <@Evilpig> heh.  I have enough strange scavenger hunt items.  dagmar and al are some of my cohorts for it
10:37 <@Evilpig> there will be at least one high point item featurig skydick as well.  if notlarry and corydon don't veto me
10:38 <@Evilpig> that will be as far as I go to promoting him or his congamme
10:38 <@Evilpig> congame*
10:39 < scribbles> so much drama ;/
10:40 <@Evilpig> jonnyx just got us a really cool talk / speaker
10:41 <@Evilpig> i'll get his info up this week sometime after i get all the details verified
10:42 <@Evilpig> scribbles: http://i.imgur.com/Km2wp.png
10:43 < scribbles> I mean... heh.
10:43 <@Evilpig> some dick did that and sent it to me.  that's my story
10:44 <@Evilpig> i'm half tempted to go get a coke out of the fridge.  there is no way i'd sleep then though
10:45 < scribbles> have you been up all night?
10:45 <@Evilpig> yar
10:45 < scribbles> atl needs to get its scene together
10:45 <@Evilpig> I work the 7p-7a shift for vandy
10:46 <@Evilpig> nashville needs to get it back together
10:48 <@Evilpig> I have a dream that one day, me and a backhoe.  awwww dreams
11:24 < MaxieZ> scribbles: Come to dc404 meetings.
11:25 < MaxieZ> Evilpig: How about changing: "You might be into guys no, Just FYI"
11:25 <@Evilpig> looking at old info.  should I put this keg info on the site?
11:25 < MaxieZ> Into something like.  "Just relax and enjoy it.  Try not to tense up.  It only gets him more excited"
11:26 <@Evilpig> how about "He swears he'll call you later"
11:26 < MaxieZ> That's not bad and not nearly as graphic
11:31 <@Evilpig> guess I should make a better attempt at sleeping now
11:32 <@Evilpig> kill bill part 2 started with a star trek quote?  how did I miss that all the other times i've seen this?
11:35 <@ware> moley moley
11:35 <@ware> its f00tball time@
12:49 < scribbles> MaxieZ: I do ;)
12:50 < scribbles> i've been to two or three at least
13:30 < MaxieZ> Well, from what I've seen they have enough....I don't really expect 100s of people to show up to anything short of a con.
13:36 < scribbles> its usually 20-30
13:37 < scribbles> pbr90x's presentation of AFcore botnet forensics was impressive
14:09 < RangerZ> so i haven't looked at routers, etc in forever, I was still using my wrt-54g , and i need to get another router(with wifi N would be nice, WPA2 et.al., though i'm assuming those two are pretty much standard now) so is there a "most people in the know get this one" anymore?
14:11 < eryc> i just got the buffalo
14:11 < eryc> its on its way from newegg
14:12 < eryc> it was $96
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14:15 < RangerZ> is wpa2 still the best encryption?
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14:17 < eryc> no wpa3 now
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14:19 < MaxieZ> wpa2 is good.  There is some talk of having a wpa3 after 802.11i
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15:44 < scribbles> RangerZ: I've been looking at the linksys e4200
15:44 < scribbles> seems grossly overpowered but thats fun right?
15:45 < scribbles> I just recently upgraded to a docsis3 cable modem, instant 4mbps gain
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17:04 <@Evilpig> eryc: let me know how good that works when you get it.  I really need to get a new ap myself
17:42 < RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjZhJSXl4nU i actually want to play this, and see if it is worth playing, lol
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19:29 < cyberanger> Evilpig: you looking for an AP, or an AP built into a router?
19:31 <@Evilpig> preferrably just an AP, but those are becoming more and more rare outside of enterprise class hardware
19:32 <@Evilpig> I was looking at some of buffalo's new offerings because they come with dd-wrt out of hte box which is kinda handy
19:35 <@Evilpig> I am currently using a cisco ap-1200.  it's time I upgrade
19:35 < cyberanger> yeah, early buffalo gear was a pain, now they come with the best software, quite a turnaround
19:36 <@Evilpig> I remember them early on getting fined by the FCC for putting to strong of radios in their gear
19:39 < cyberanger> I've got a bunch of Ubuiquiti bullets, mostly older bullet2's, but some bullet5's & their HP cousins
19:39 < cyberanger> I'm
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19:41 < cyberanger> willing to sell one or two if that's the kind of hardware you' looking for
19:49 < cyberanger> (man, celluar in the smokies still leaves something to be desired)
19:57 < cyberanger> Evilpig: intrested in a ubiquiti bullet?
20:29 < eryc> i looked at the cisco e4200 and an asus but ultimately decided dd-wrt was what i wanted and the buffalo is cheaper to boot
20:30 < eryc> Evilpig: i'll let you know how it goes
20:31 < eryc> i also liked how the buffalo has adjustable antennas compared to the "flying saucer" form facter
21:30 <@Evilpig> cyberanger: never seen those before.  looks neat though
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21:36 < cyberanger> Evilpig: they suprised me at first too, but I'd stand by them now, best device I've seen that wasn't custom
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21:40 <@Evilpig> is it just for aiming primarily?
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22:54 < cyberanger> Evilpig: say what?
22:55 <@Evilpig> the ubiquiti bullet.  at least whan I am looking at is an antenna replacement looking thing witha  signal meter on it
22:57 < cyberanger> oh, right, sorry, it's an Access Point, N Connector on top, takes cat5e on the bottom, power injector to the cat5e for power
22:58 < cyberanger> the high power model is a full watt
22:58 <@Evilpig> now that is nice
22:58 < cyberanger> meant to just blend in as a part of a mounting bracket
22:58 < cyberanger> and compact either way
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22:59 <@Evilpig> I had my 1200 mounted to the side of my rolling computer desk that I turned into my server rack
23:03 < cyberanger> How big is that?
23:04 < cyberanger> I mean, for travel sake
23:07  * RangerZ grumbles about this stupid 42u rack I have, need something more in the size of 20u or so
23:13 < cyberanger> RangerZ: exact oposite here, got two 10u racks here (in reality, the way the panels are it's 8U)
23:13 < cyberanger> I'd rather have two 20U racks (room to expand)
23:14 < RangerZ> a hosting company went out of business near me and i came into possession of 4 of them, only have 1 left, had to give one as a finders fee to a friend of mine, and one to the guy with the truck who helped move them
23:14 < RangerZ> then gave another to a friend of mine just to get rid of it(he had a truck and picked it up)
23:15 < RangerZ> problem with it is the thing is a beast
23:15 < RangerZ> solid steel, front and back doors
23:15 < RangerZ> and too tall to roll through most doors
23:16 < cyberanger> well, to me that sounds good, easier to TEMPEST and harder to steal
23:16 < RangerZ> yeah, but if people you know don't need that kind of firepower
23:17 < RangerZ> its sorta like killing an ant with a cannon
23:17 < RangerZ> instead of a 22
23:17 < RangerZ> lol
23:17 < cyberanger> only a cannon, shame, was kinda thinking howitizer at least
23:18 < RangerZ> well the navy classifies it's new rail gun as a cannon too
23:18 < RangerZ> so....
23:18 < RangerZ> but i think thats partially to get around some international treaties
23:20 < RangerZ> b/c we are limited to the total tonnage of sea-craft, as is GB, JPN, and a few others (not sure on (then)USSR/(now)Russia)
23:26 < RangerZ> though my personal fav quote about rail guns is still from macross "the bullets are traveling so fast, that if we put explosive heads on them, it would be a waste", hehe
23:28 < cyberanger> I'm not aware on any tonnage limit except for the Dardanelles and Bosphorus straits under the 1936 Montreux Convention
23:29 < cyberanger> I wonder what treaties we'd be getting around calling it a cannon
23:34 < RangerZ> i honestly don't know, but i was told it could have something to do with the ban on space weapons
23:34 < RangerZ> the way the specific wording in it occurs
23:34 < RangerZ> basically prevents "weapons that could even be shot into space", and a rail gun could do that
23:35 < RangerZ> but cannons... like that stupid cannon that the germans were trying to get working that would shoot around the earth to finally hit the US
23:35 < RangerZ> iraq tried to do the same back in the 90s i think
23:36 < cyberanger> Iraq's Project Babylon
23:36 < cyberanger> a supergun that could not be adjusted, due to it's design, only thing it could really do is shoot into space
23:37 <@Evilpig> cyberanger: sry was playing WoW... err I mean working.  it isn't portable at all.  but it moves inmy livingroom easier than just a table
23:40 < cyberanger> Evilpig: lol, that's why I love the bullet, more power I could ever need, and yet smaller than everything else in my suitcase
23:41 <@Evilpig> it doesn't look bad.  without pulling the page back up does it support vlan tagging?
23:41 <@Evilpig> or multiple ssids?
23:43 < cyberanger> RangerZ: perhaps, Project HARP & the V3 Cannon were aiming for that design, but only treaties I am aware of limit nuclear missle designs & ban space based WMDs
23:43 < cyberanger> maybe just an old habit, it's not a missle, therefore it must be a naval gun, a cannon
23:43 < RangerZ> yeah, i don't really know (or care that much)
23:43 < RangerZ> just found it odd
23:43 < cyberanger> Evilpig: multiple ssids yes, depending on the software
23:44 < cyberanger> if I recall right (never used that feature)
23:44 < cyberanger> vlan tagging sounds right, lemme check real quick
23:45 <@Evilpig> I was attempting to make a second wireless network available with my current setup and put a captive portal, etc on it and leave it open but when I did the AP went bonkers and I said it was best to leave what was working alone and revisit that project later
23:45 < cyberanger> Evilpig: sorry, I stand corrected with a stock bullet2, AirOS lacks that feature, but openwrt or dd-wrt do support that feature
23:46 < cyberanger> just a matter of software in that case
23:46 < cyberanger> same seems to go for vlan tagging
23:49 < cyberanger> Evilpig: so yes, the bullet does support vlan tagging & mutiple ssid's, but only in third party firmware
23:50 <@Evilpig> gotcha.  might have to look at that thing a little closer here shortly
23:50 < cyberanger> yeah, I recall a similar issue with two dlink routers, trying to do it with spare parts (favor for a client/friend, keep part costs low & do it quick & cheap)
23:51 <@Evilpig> this is an expensive AP and I have set it up to do similar before but I think this one might hav ea slight hardware fault starting
23:51 < cyberanger> both were in the same back office, jammed each other out, locked up and boom
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23:54 < cyberanger> yeah, ubiquiti gear isn't too cheap, if you look for the right price, sit on it & such, I've bought some for 30 bucks
23:54 < cyberanger> but it's about timing
23:54 < cyberanger> (that is leaving out the power injectors, but I've got too many of them, bought a bunch in bulk for dirt cheap)
23:55 < cyberanger> the bullet2hp, bullet5hp & bulletm are the hardest ones to find a price drop on
23:56 < cyberanger> buy a bullet2hp & power injector in a rush and it's easily 100-120 bucks
23:57 < cyberanger> what hardware fault are you fearing?
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