--- Log opened Wed Aug 24 00:00:12 2011
00:02 <@Evilpig> I'm going to bring honey into work on friday night, I think
00:02 <@Evilpig> give him something to actually clean
00:02 <@Evilpig> and make sure to get rid of that bottle of cleaner.
00:02 <@Bahhumbug> elmers glue and machine oil works well also.  as does vaseline.
00:03 < RangerZ> or you could do what we did to a new hire once... at the old call center i worked at
00:03 <@Evilpig> clear layer of elmers.  yes... I like your style
00:03 <@Evilpig> I was thinking a drop or two of honey between a few keys on the keyboard
00:03 < RangerZ> bring in a jar of Vaseline and say... "here, You'll need this"
00:03 <@Evilpig> forever sticky key
00:03 < RangerZ> is this the one with the GIF background?
00:04 <@Evilpig> yup
00:04 <@Evilpig> this is teh sleepy idiot that didn't wake up for a 55" screen flashing wake up ben
00:04 <@Evilpig> he's also obsessive over the purell auto-dispensor
00:04 <@Evilpig> you'd think he had some type of condition that germs were out to kill him as much as he uses the stuff
00:05 < RangerZ> there is(was?) a program a guy i know wrote that would replace ever random(10:20) keystrokes of a letter and replace it with another one
00:05 <@Evilpig> while he's rubbing that shit on, i'm wanting to talk over to the ER and start licking the incoming patients to maintain my immunities
00:05 < RangerZ> so you could make it look like they typed "hwllo" instead of "hello", etc
00:06 < RangerZ> drove this one guy nuts
00:06 < RangerZ> lol
00:07 <@Evilpig> oh my national geographic.  "9/11 has been studied from every direction but one.  tune in blah blah to gear it from G.W's perspective.  <insert mumbling stupid speak>"
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09:40 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
09:44 < ware> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4drucg1A6Xk
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10:21 <@ware> 10:20 -!- 1 - #se2600: ban *skiboy*!*@* [by ware!ware@phneak.net, 421825 secs ago]
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10:21 <@ware> lulzn
10:21 <@ware> Evilpig: m0rnin! how goes
10:22 <@nachoguy> who was skiboy, and why should I care?
10:30 <@ware> hes a n00b new to the scene
10:31 <@ware> 16yr old guy
10:31 <@ware> just a bit annoying
10:31 <@nachoguy> someone touched him inappropriately
10:31 <@ware> how's chi-town?
10:31 <@ware> did yall feel the quake
10:32 <@nachoguy> still standing
10:32 <@nachoguy> I didn't feel anything, but some people are reporting they did
10:33 <@nachoguy> it's been a wild couple of months at the office.  lots of departures, re-orgs, and things of that nature
10:38 <@ware> nice
10:38 <@ware> we're going through that on a small scale
10:38 <@ware> but we only have 25~ employees
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16:12 <@Evilpig> halfcalorie?
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16:54 <@CRasH180> Bahhumbug: Why are you not in #nlug any more?
17:07 <@CRasH180> Ah well, I have to go to Roller Derby practice.
17:07 <@CRasH180> ttyl
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17:20 <@Bahhumbug> And the answer would be "asshats".
17:21 <@nachoguy> What is "an unfortunate type of headwear"?
17:22 <@Bahhumbug> hahaha
17:22 <@Bahhumbug> What part of Chi-town you in, nachoguy?
17:22 <@nachoguy> the middle part
17:22 <@nachoguy> why, wassa?
17:23 <@Bahhumbug> heh.  Grew up and spent 34 years in Shitcago.
17:23 <@nachoguy> Also, who's keeping tabs on me?
17:23 <@nachoguy> in that case, South side
17:23 <@Bahhumbug> meh, Northside all the way :)
17:23 <@nachoguy> no wonder you had to leave
17:24 <@Bahhumbug> Lots of reasons to leave.  Many of them sounded like "Daley".
17:24 <@nachoguy> bah, like him or hate him, the man got shit done
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17:26 <@Bahhumbug> I'm overly familiar with machine politics; but his cronyism (sp?) didn't do anything to help many facets of living around that town.  Public transit in the form of CTA is a case in point.  Infrastructure is another.  Go peek under some of the bridges over the river if you're bored sometime.  Hint: you shouldn't be able to see through the cement and rebar.
17:26 <@Bahhumbug> He liked spending money on completely stupid shit.
17:27 <@nachoguy> only Politician I know of that (in a non sexual way) needed multiple secretaries, because one alone couldn't keep up with him
17:27 <@nachoguy> true
17:27 <@brimstone> you know of politicians in sexual ways?
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17:27 <@nachoguy> brimstone, it would parse that way if the Paren clause was before the word that, not after
17:28 <@nachoguy> regardless, I applaud your quick thinking
17:28 <@brimstone> aww, let me missunderstand you!
17:28 <@Bahhumbug> Streets and San is a department ripe for gutting.  Whether Emanuelle gets a chance to do it or not it will be interesting to see how that pans out.  Same with CFD.
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17:28 <@nachoguy> CFD just lost a major lawsuit
17:29 <@Bahhumbug> Hmm, must look that up.  I've not followed much in the city since I left to be honest.  I glance at WGN on occasion when bored but that's really the extent of it.
17:29 <@brimstone> did CFD check under the couch?
17:29 <@brimstone> sometimes i leave stuff in my pants pocket
17:29 <@brimstone> then it gets washed :/
17:29 <@nachoguy> nice thing is that the new Cook county President Preckwinkle is cleaning house
17:29 <@nachoguy> No, apparently they didn't hire black firefighters
17:30 <@Bahhumbug> Meh - that nonsense has been going on for decades.
17:30 <@nachoguy> Not sure if it was racially motivated, or you know, just thought they were more flamable
17:30 <@Bahhumbug> Second most racially diverse city in the country and the line between black and white is clearly drawn in the sand.
17:30 <@nachoguy> Second, really?
17:31 <@nachoguy> Would have thought LA and NY both had Chicago beat
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17:31 <@Bahhumbug> Arguably.  After working for CCC on and off for a decade primarily doing ESL courseware development I'd argue it to be first.  NYC is an arrival location but many nationalities bail pretty fast.
17:32 <@nachoguy> You worked for CCC?  Which campus?
17:32 <@Bahhumbug> Wright, Truman, OHC; hung out at MXC and Loop for a while as well.
17:33 <@Bahhumbug> (Old Wright campus, not the new one)
17:33 <@nachoguy> wow
17:33 <@nachoguy> I'm down the street from central office
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17:34 <@Bahhumbug> I knew people at the CO as well back in the day before they started shuffling folks around.
17:34 <@Bahhumbug> But, oddly, never stepped foot in the building.
17:35 <@nachoguy> The latest set of management there apparently doesn't quite understand how it's supposed to operate
17:35 <@nachoguy> There were protests out in front and everything
17:36 <@Bahhumbug> Back in the 80s and early 90s the campuses effectively ran themselves, the unions saw to that as it made their life easier for the most part.
17:37 <@Bahhumbug> Then there was a shakeup up at the top and shit started rolling downhill.  And it was really good as there needed to be some cleaning down.  Things mellowed out for years and pretty much went status quo again.
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17:37 <@nachoguy> yeah, then they centralized a bunch of stuff, becuase htey thought it would make it better.  They cut out the people that understood the actual requirements
17:37 <@Bahhumbug> Then I stopped caring.  They gutted the PLATO/NovaNET labs.
17:38 <@Bahhumbug> and those were the same ones that knew which backs needed scratching to get shit accomplished.
17:38 <@nachoguy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3bBvpVvgxY
17:39 <@nachoguy> The new chancellor is on almost everyone's bad side
17:39 <@nachoguy> I do like the video, as it's way over the top
17:39 <@nachoguy> CCC is not killing dissenters in the streets
17:42 <@Bahhumbug> wtf?
17:42 <@Bahhumbug> killing open enrolement?
17:42 <@Bahhumbug> dropping campus names?
17:42 <@Bahhumbug> is she stupid?
17:42 <@Bahhumbug> enrollment even
17:42 <@nachoguy> oh yeah
17:43 <@Bahhumbug> nonsense
17:43 <@nachoguy> even some of the old holdovers from before the Finacialaid/accounting/amex debacle happened have decided that it's too much, and they're getting out
17:44 <@Bahhumbug> Sadly, this is typical Chicago.
17:44 <@nachoguy> anyway, need to pack up and get out.  catch you guys later
17:45 <@Bahhumbug> nice chattin'
17:45 <@nachoguy> indeed
17:49 < RangerZ> man... that gamestop story about them pilfering though game boxes and taking out stuff they don't like... not cool
17:49 < RangerZ> (it is on /. now, btw)
17:54 < RangerZ> nachoguy: its that bad in ANY democratic city
17:55 < RangerZ> YSU (Youngstown, Ohio) has a possible strike b/c the school wants the profs to take a 5% cut, when they are among the lowest paid profs in the country already
17:56 < RangerZ> and an impartial arbitrator fact finding commission found the profs deserving a 2% raise, and all the profs want is a 0% increase or decrease
18:22 < scribbles> wow.
18:23 < scribbles> I work in academia and am often told how raises and furloughs are the norm due to the economic environment while thousands of ipads flood offices of people who don't know what itunes is
18:23 < scribbles> lack of raises*
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18:49 < RangerZ> scribbles: and they should be rewarded for not knowing what itunes is, not punished by making them use iGiveUpControl Pads ;)
19:00 <@Dagmar> Bleh.
19:01 <@Dagmar> I've apparently had the same IP address from Comcast for most of this year
19:01 <@Dagmar> I just realized I forgot to set up ddclient after last year's firewall rebuild
19:03 < eryc> i've been rocking 'nsupdate'
19:05 <@Dagmar> Well, fuck.
19:06 <@Dagmar> Looks like we're going to rush an apache package out tomorrow night then
19:13 < scribbles> RangerZ: they were given them anyway.... they didn't have an option.
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19:44 <@Dagmar> You have to be kidding me
19:44 <@Dagmar> Fucking Microsoft put killapache.pl in the blacklist for Security Essentials
19:44 <@Dagmar> Like that's a fucking virus threat or something
19:44 <@Dagmar> Sheesh
19:46 <@sdodson> why do you have killapache.pl on a windows host?
19:51 <@Dagmar> Because that's where I'm reading my mail from and downloaded it to read it
19:52 < RangerZ> if i was better at system programming, i'd work so hard on porting DX9 to *nix
19:52 <@Dagmar> *shudder*
19:52 <@Dagmar> We dont' need it
19:52 < RangerZ> yes we do
19:53 <@Dagmar> nope.
19:53 < RangerZ> if we would get the gaming comunity to linux, it would be a MAJOR boost, and would break 10% or so
19:53 <@Dagmar> We've already got proper GL.
19:53 < RangerZ> a lot of WoW players actually play it in wine, b/c it is faster than on windows
19:53 <@Dagmar> So what does that tell you about what DX9 does for you
19:53 < RangerZ> well DX does a lot of things "much better" than *nix, mouse/sound/keyboard,etc
19:53 <@Dagmar> I play it under Linux occasionally even
19:54 <@Dagmar> I'll grant you the sound thing, but about the keyboard and mouse stuff... nah
19:54 < RangerZ> I'm a fan of *nix/*bsd,
19:54 < RangerZ> keyboard/mouse is just another "little thing" that windows devs don't have to deal with in DX
19:55 <@Dagmar> There'd be little point in bothering with that for anything but nVidia cards anyway, since ATI basically still treats Linux users like dirty hippies
19:55 <@Dagmar> Reading the keyboard and mouse is stupidly easy under Linux tho
19:55 <@Dagmar> Elevated types of access to it don't really gain you much unless you're looking to just lock someone out of their own console input devices.
19:55 <@Dagmar> That won't make you any friends.
19:56 <@Dagmar> The moment something decides to not let me task swap is the moment I uninstall it
19:56 < RangerZ> you aren't the target audience
19:56 < RangerZ> lol
19:56 < RangerZ> and also... IMHO ATI is a pretty decent company for linux right now
19:57 < RangerZ> perhaps it took them too long, but they are much more open( Internal API-wise) than nvidia
19:58 <@Dagmar> lol
19:58 <@Dagmar> Mirage misread something about my mail and then tested it
20:01 <@Dagmar> It works a little *too* well
20:01 <@Dagmar> hehe
20:28 <@Dagmar> Geez I just shredded my knuckles a bit on the way into the apartment
20:28 <@Dagmar> If anyone asks me about it at work I'm going to have to avoid the temptation of answering "Someone was asking too many nosy questions."
20:37 <@sdodson> RangerZ: Isn't Dx9 pretty much a done deal in wine?
20:39 < RangerZ> i mean a non-wine implementation
20:40 < RangerZ> ehh... kinda just a random idea
20:41 <@Dagmar> Tesselation in DX11 is cool and all, but it's still just a matter of giving developers a different wrapper to simplify some things that they could *probably* do anyway
20:41 <@Dagmar> Most of the other stuff just seems to be wrappering GL calls
20:42 <@sdodson> RangerZ: why? ya, lets scrap the implementation that's 95% of the way there and re-write it from the ground up....
20:42 < RangerZ> yes/no
20:42 < RangerZ> i mean a mathamatical/model based implementation
20:42 < RangerZ> where the code is written by a compiler/etc
20:56 < RangerZ> and use wine as a benchmark, etc
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