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09:07 < eryc> its spelled syria..
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09:54 <@Dickie> I'm super Syria...
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10:17 <@Dagmar> Fucking web developers
10:19 < todd> eh?
10:19  * todd hides
10:19 <@Dagmar> I have 'web developer' who has apparently hit some problem with PHP carping about TZ not being set
10:20 <@Dagmar> I say "apparently" because he didn't bother to tell me what the actual error was
10:20 <@Dagmar> He did, however, manage to find a replacement settings.php that he downloaded off the internet someplace that he wants me to upload to the server.
10:20 < todd> tz doesn't have to be globally set anywyas..
10:21 <@Dagmar> todd: According to the bit I dug up, it's the #2 way PHP has to guess about it
10:22 < todd> bwahahah
10:22 < todd> Question about: JIRA Ticket MIDEV-7019 'Identify local content in pubsys'
10:22 < todd> Hi, Will the ticket below help us reliably identify local content?
10:22 < todd> jackass
10:23 <@Dagmar> Sure enough the exact error he is getting is on http://drupal.org/node/325827
10:23 <@Dagmar> Betcha setting TZ fixes it
10:38 <@Dagmar> todd: Oh you guys are doing the change management thing with middle managers this morning, too?
10:38 <@Dagmar> Heh
10:40 < todd> this place is middle management hell sometimes
10:45 <@ware> wee
10:46 <@ware> <- middle management
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10:59 <@ware> ^- upper management
10:59 <@Dagmar> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5X4N2exOsU <-- so much win *tears up*
11:25 <@rhia> Dagmar: that made my monday morning =)
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11:44 <@nachoguy> ahoy
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13:51 <@Mirage_> http://vimeo.com/27268591
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14:28 <@Evilpig> someone uploaded rick astley as pn15 attendee
14:29 <@Evilpig> good one Mirage 
14:29 <@brimstone> even if there's a competing con, he's never gonna give you up
14:29 <@Evilpig> looks like someone tried to sql inject me too
14:29 <@brimstone> that might have been me
14:29 <@brimstone> flich reaction
14:29 <@brimstone> i see an input box and in goes bobby tables
14:29 <@Evilpig> was it an ice cream factory?  aka snowman poop?
14:31 <@Evilpig> since i'm not able to sleep I guess I should get up and try to be prouctive
14:32 <@Evilpig> watching man vs food and he's in knoxville
14:46 <@nachoguy> competing con?
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15:24 <@Dagmar> Fucking amateurs
15:25 <@ware> FUCK FUCK FUCK
15:25 <@ware> amateurs fucking?
15:25 <@ware> F U C K
15:25 <@ware> it's a powerful word
15:25 <@brimstone> Foxtrot, Uniform, Charlie, Kilo!
15:26 <@ware> brimstone: are you going to PN or SDC? or both?
15:26 <@ware> or neither!
15:26 <@brimstone> pfft
15:26 <@Dagmar> Amateurs fucking with power to the building
15:26 <@brimstone> like picking sides in a custidy battle
15:26 <@ware> or are you going to brimstonCon that weekend
15:26 <@Bahhumbug> You know, "SkyDogCon" is a stupid name.
15:26 <@Dagmar> I will absolutely SKIN SOME FUCKING HILLBILLY ALIVE
15:26 <@ware> lolol
15:26 <@Dagmar> Seriously.
15:26 <@ware> Dagmar: let the rage flow!
15:27 <@ware> http://www.wowhead.com/item=33495/rage
15:27 <@Dagmar> Dude, I noticed this morning that the little seal was broken on my power meter
15:27 <@Dagmar> Friday I had a mysterious power outage
15:27 <@Dagmar> Fucking idiot electricians downstairs are killing power to the WRONG FUCKING APARTMENT
15:27 <@Dagmar> Nevermind that THE FUCKING METERS ARE LABELED
15:27 <@Dagmar> It's time for a fucking restraining order
15:28 <@Dagmar> They turn my fucking water off without warning or reason
15:28 <@Dagmar> That's fine.  If I'm not there, I don't give a shit if the apartment has water or not.
15:28 <@Dagmar> Electricity, on the other hand
15:28 <@Bahhumbug> I didn't think that anyone not working for the power company had the right to pop a meter seal.
15:28 <@Dagmar> I will fucking *slaughter* some goddamn hillbillies
15:29 <@Dagmar> Bahhumbug: That would be even better.  I'd love to get them into serious trouble
15:29 <@Dagmar> Because this is turning into an issue of fucking harassment
15:33 <@ware> lol jeez
15:33 <@ware> are these people from the power company?
15:33 <@ware> or contractors doing work?
15:34 <@ware> how's life outside of power issues at the house
15:34 <@ware> we're hiring here and i need to find some ppl to help lol
15:34 <@ware> got too much shit going on and signing new clients every month
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16:03 <@Dagmar> It's the idiot hillbilly contractors that have been plaguing me for hte last year and a half
16:04 <@Dagmar> I'm pretty sure they've killed power to my apartment twice by mistake now
16:04 <@dc0de> awesome... I'm going to build my Goon AR into a .458 socom...
16:05 <@Dagmar> I'm going to head straight over to Batteries Plus and pick up 3-4 batteries after work
16:05 <@Dagmar> ...and then tomorrow morning I may use the worn-out ones to beat some fuckin' hillbillies to death
16:06 <@Dagmar> The messed up thing is that I could actually probably put one of them in the damn bike
16:11 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar:  add a few solar panels to your balcony and wire them back to your power meter.  Then, if hillbilly electricians try to work on your meter, they get popped with your own power knocking on the line
16:11 <@Dagmar> In a building made of wood?
16:11 <@Corydon76-home> Why not?
16:12 <@Dagmar> Oh, I dunno.  Fire sort of springs to mind.
16:12 <@Corydon76-home> My home is made of wood, and I'm looking into getting panels and selling extra energy back to TVA
16:13 <@Corydon76-home> Retail price is $.10/kwh, and you get something on the order of $.22/kwh if you sell solar power back to them
16:13 <@Dagmar> At this point, I consider it a minor miracle that I haven't fallen through the floor.
16:13 <@nachoguy> Corydon, what's the payback time on that?
16:13 <@Corydon76-home> And starting September 1st, one of the local contractors is going to starting leasing systems...
16:14 <@Corydon76-home> nachoguy: depends upon your usage.  I calculated a turnaround time of approximately 3-5 years, based upon a 5kW system and my energy usage
16:14 <@nachoguy> wow!
16:14 <@nachoguy> last time I looked, the rough estimate was like 10-12 years
16:14 <@Corydon76-home> and the systems are rated to last 25-30 years
16:15 <@nachoguy> they keep making better panels though
16:15 <@Corydon76-home> Even better, the pitch of my roof faces N-S, which is optimal for solar panels
16:15 <@Corydon76-home> South side faces away from the road
16:16 <@Dagmar> Hopefully I will not spaz out and forget to gas up the scooter first.
16:16 <@Dagmar> otherwise, it'll be a good thing that most of Nolensville Road is downhill.
16:17 <@Corydon76-home> nachoguy: the incentives in your area:  http://www.dsireusa.org/incentives/index.cfm?getRE=1?re=undefined&ee=1&spv=0&st=0&srp=1&state=IL
16:18 <@Dagmar> Here I was planning on just going and buying another $40 UPS on sale to cover my desktop
16:18 <@Corydon76-home> Not to mention the 30% tax credit you can claim on a solar system... $1500 max tax credit/year, but you can rollover any excess
16:18 <@Dagmar> Instead, I'm going to go buy about $135/worth of batteries... but at least it'll get three of my UPSes back in working order again
16:19 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: last time I bought that amount of batteries, the online place gave me free shipping
16:19 <@Dagmar> Well, I can do that, and have my power killed again tomorrow and the next day...
16:19 <@Corydon76-home> which, for lead batteries, is a helluva deal
16:19 <@Dagmar> ...or I can just go pick the things up
16:20 <@Dagmar> Hopefully there's no surcharge for giving them batteries to be recycled.
16:20 <@Corydon76-home> Fair enough
16:21 <@nachoguy> I was hoping to get http://www.clarianpower.com/solar.html
16:21 <@nachoguy> but at this point, it's still vapor
16:23 <@Corydon76-home> You'll probably need multiples of that unit, whatever the cost...  note that it's only 30kwh/mo, while homes in the summer are typically around 3000kwh/mo
16:23 <@nachoguy> oh yeah, would need a few.  but it's something you could do piecemeal
16:23 <@Corydon76-home> westinghousesolar has systems like that which are shipping now
16:24 <@Corydon76-home> in terms of having the builtin micro-inverter
16:24 <@Dagmar> Anyone got a preference between 7a and 8a replacement batteries?
16:24 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: go for the bigger... more battery life
16:25 <@Dagmar> Good enough reason
16:26 <@Dagmar> I mean, that's load, not really capacity, but you have a point in that it might handle the load better over time
16:26 <@Dagmar> CLEARLY I get use out of the things.
16:26 <@Dagmar> I'll do these first three (four batteries) and then I'll do the other four
16:26 <@Dagmar> An older Belkin unit, and three Blackout Buster B6U's
16:26 <@Corydon76-home> Well, yeah, but a higher capacity for stored power means it can tolerate a larger load over the same time or the same load over a longer time
16:27 <@Corydon76-home> Ugh, Belkin.  Probably the worst UPS I've ever picked up
16:27 <@Dagmar> It's just a rinkydink metal-box model
16:28 <@Dagmar> Not really any different from an APC ES350 in capacity, but it has a decently intelligent USB interface
16:30  * Corydon76-home hugs his powerware 5125
16:32 <@Corydon76-home> This one has a decent Ethernet connector
16:32 <@Corydon76-home> It emails me whenever it switches to battery
17:11 <@ware> Corydon76-home: are you going to SkydogCon?
17:16 < eryc> http://s.buzzfeed.com//static/imagebuzz/terminal01/2011/8/22/14/watch-out-for-this-lost-dog-32439-1314039399-13.jpg
17:23 <@dc0de> http://xkcd.com/940/
17:28 <@Corydon76-home> ware: No, I have a prior conflict
17:32 <@brimstone> is your prior conflict phreaknic?
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18:28 <@ware> brimstone: lol u trollin
18:29 <@ware> everyone knows last year was the last phreaknic
18:35 < eryc> fo sho
19:06 <@ware> whats new with you eryc
19:06 <@ware> hows DC life n shit
19:06 <@ware> still waking people up in the middle of the night? ;)
19:10 <@Evilpig> https://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/serious-crypto-bug-found-php-537-082211
19:10 <@Evilpig> "If crypt() is executed with MD5 salts, the return value conists of the salt only. DES and BLOWFISH salts work as expected."
19:11 <@Evilpig> ware: I am going to remind you while we all know you're trolling.  That situation has me very pissed off and I highly suggest you steer clear of the topic
19:15 <@ware> just remember its all for fun
19:15 <@ware> the cons, the trolling, the community
19:15 <@Evilpig> yeah well I am not having fun with it
19:15 <@ware> you should try some yoga
19:15 <@Evilpig> I should try some vehicular manslaughter
19:15 <@ware> all that meditation crap really makes you slow down and relax
19:16 <@ware> and you get a little excersize with helps a lot with peace of mind
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19:56 <@Bahhumbug> Can I point out again that "SkyDogCon" is a retarded name?
19:57 <@Evilpig> it goes without saying
20:02 < RangerZ> nope...
20:03 < RangerZ> BA-CON from Columbus Ohio...
20:03 <@Dagmar> Bleh.  The power cut here today left the MythTV box off so I missed recording the first showing of Eureka
20:03 <@Dagmar> At least I got it straightened out again in time to start recording everything anyway
20:03 < RangerZ> at ~515 PM?
20:03 <@Dagmar> Yeah.  I didn't get home until a bit past 7pm
20:03 <@Dagmar> I had to go down to Batteries Plus and spend about $160 on UPS batteries
20:04 < RangerZ> yeah, I'm going to have to put my alarmclock on UPS
20:04 <@Dagmar> The 900xs is charging now
20:05 <@Dagmar> I also just put a zip tie on my meter
20:05 <@Dagmar> If I have another power failure and that zip tie is cut, blood will spill.
20:05 <@Dagmar> ...or at the very least I'll go get a TRO
20:06 < RangerZ> you should go get one of those unique numbered ties
20:06 <@Dagmar> We've got them at work
20:06 <@Evilpig> not like we use them anymore either.  stop by in the morning and get one
20:06 <@Dagmar> ...but I used one of the day-glow ones left over from the Underground days, so I'm pretty sure they won't have a lurid green one on hand
20:08 < RangerZ> All i know is that I'm going to try and get as much solar(either PV, or other means) power gen at whatever house i buy when i graduate from vandy(and hopefully get a teaching position somewhere)
20:09 <@Dagmar> WTF you *go* to Vandy?
20:09 < RangerZ> for grad right now
20:09 <@Dagmar> How is it you never mentioned this before?
20:09 <@Evilpig> he has
20:09 <@Evilpig> several times
20:09 <@Dagmar> I guess I just missed it
20:09 <@Evilpig> a few months back he was talking about starting here and needing to get an apt, etc
20:09 <@Evilpig> lol
20:10 <@Dagmar> Ah
20:10 < RangerZ> and everyone said to room with you dagmar
20:10 < RangerZ> that our scooters would match
20:10 <@Dagmar> You have a Kymco?
20:11 < RangerZ> a 200I LX
20:11 < RangerZ> blue and grey
20:12 <@Dagmar> http://www.kymcousa.com/showroom/scooters/like200ilx/index.html ?
20:12 <@Dagmar> Looks like a Buddy
20:12 < RangerZ> gets from point A to point B
20:13 <@Dagmar> http://www.kymcousa.com/showroom/scooters/agility125/colors.html <-- in silver
20:13 <@Dagmar> ...cept no tacky chrome heat sink on mine.
20:14 <@Dagmar> Mine's got some "age" on it now.  Definitely a "working bike"
20:15 < RangerZ> i only have my car down here
20:15 <@Dagmar> You need a set of these: http://www.motorcyclespeakers.net/
20:15 <@Dagmar> :)
20:15 < RangerZ> wow.... just wow...
20:15 <@Dagmar> You'll hear me coming easily 50yds before you see me
20:16 < RangerZ> how about smell? b/c thats really the most important one in close courters
20:17 <@Dagmar> They make damn sure people in SUVs know I'm there
20:18 <@Dagmar> I'll ignore that jibe and say the weird briquette smell left the engine after about three weeks of riding it
20:18 <@Dagmar> It *did* smell like it was running on Ronsonol at first
20:21 <@Dagmar> seriosuly tho it takes like a half hour tops to mount their speaker kits
20:22 <@Dagmar> They do not draw enough current to matter while riding.
20:22 <@Dagmar> The 7a fuse on the amp is hilariously overkill
20:22 <@Dagmar> The most I've seen it draw was ~1.5a
20:22 < RangerZ> i'm personally interested in seeing Tesla's bike/scooter in the future
20:23 < RangerZ> i see them making a crotch rocket first, or a cruiser
20:23 <@Dagmar> I might like to *see* one.  I wouldn't want to pay for one
20:26 < RangerZ> well since Tesla is building Toyota's batteries, hopefully economy of scale works for them
20:27 <@Dagmar> I'm not so sure I'd even want to ride one
20:27 <@Dagmar> There's some physical feedback in hearing/feeling a gas engine run
20:27 < RangerZ> it'd be better than the 65mph segway
20:27 <@Dagmar> You can *tell* if the engine is going to go nuts before it gets fully wound up to do so
20:28 <@Dagmar> I imagine there'll be a number of nutcases who'll want to just twist the handle all the way and see what happens
20:32 < RangerZ> i'd think they would just put a lot of electrical circuit governors on it
20:33 <@Dagmar> Yeah and you can make a gas bike with enough power throw you off if you ignore the engine's windup
20:34 <@Dagmar> You did see that video of the guy with the electric racing bike lose control of it, right?
20:35 <@Dagmar> He only let off the brakes for a moment and that thing just ran away with him on it
20:35 < RangerZ> yeah
20:37 <@Dagmar> A gas engine would be making a noise at that point that would let you know, you're about to be going HELLA fast
20:38 < RangerZ> some republican politician wanted electric cars to have speakers in them in cali
20:38 <@Dagmar> Nissan is all over that
20:39 < RangerZ> so that they "rev" so "blind people can hear them"
20:39 <@Dagmar> They actually filed for a patent on sound "themes" for their cars
20:39 <@Dagmar> I can't really argue that that's a bad patent.  :)
20:39 <@Dagmar> Your EV can sound like the Jetsons
20:40 < RangerZ> or a little kid blowing bubbles
20:41 <@Dagmar> Another thing I would not want to ride: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhIjpYFpV40
20:41 <@Dagmar> Not unless I could do it inside a teflon tube with a nylon suit on
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20:42 <@Dagmar> What you see is what you get.  It's a BIG FUCKING CAR ENGINE mounted in a bike frame
20:42 < RangerZ> yeah
20:42 < RangerZ> but that 4 tires form factor is what i see for future bikes
20:42 <@Dagmar> Maybe
20:42 <@Dagmar> It makes the turning mechanisms a fair bit more complex
20:43 <@Dagmar> I've been looking at some of the three-wheelers with an eye towards maybe riding in winter
20:43 <@Dagmar> Cuz on ice, and two wheels, your shit just falls over.
20:43 <@Dagmar> There's no keeping the fuckers up
20:43 <@Dagmar> hehe
20:44 <@Dagmar> One of the baristas at Bongo Java found this out the hard way last winter.  lol
20:44 <@Evilpig> that doesn't sound pleasant
20:44 <@Dagmar> "Oh, I *tried* alright.  I got about as far as just out of the driveway and *bam* I'm on the ground."
20:44 <@Evilpig> notlarry rode his all last winter
20:44 < RangerZ> i'm from ohio... and i wouldn't ride a bike in the winter
20:45 <@Dagmar> NotLarry is on serious medication which affects his ability to recognize that he's doing something really stupid
20:45 < RangerZ> but i wouldn't ride a bike in OHIO winter... here... i dunno
20:45 <@Dagmar> I get the feeling that at least one of those nights he was basically skiing to work
20:45 <@Dagmar> My little BMW was almost perfectly useles that last time
20:46 <@Dagmar> I will damn well net up my tires with zip ties if I have to do that again
20:48 <@Dagmar> Getting stuck on *perfectly flat asphalt* because I had to stop for some idiot was humiliating
20:49 <@Dagmar> Otherwise I think I made pretty good time.
20:49 <@Dagmar> 11.6 miles in two and a half hours
20:49 <@Dagmar> :)
20:49 < RangerZ> people i know (not me, i admit that) can run that
20:50 <@dc0de> RangerZ: I can run that...
20:50 <@Dagmar> I could walk it in about 20 minutes more
20:50 <@dc0de> in about 12 minutes.
20:50 <@Dagmar> I might consider trying that
20:50 < RangerZ> yeah... fastest i've ever done was 6:30 min mile
20:51 <@Dagmar> I went the whole way with my windows and moon roof open because I was dressed for walking the rest of the way home if I had to
20:51 < RangerZ> so... average of 10min/mile...2hrs
20:51 < RangerZ> but i couldn't run 2 hours, lol
20:51 <@dc0de> RangerZ: yeah, but I would do it in a truck.
20:51 <@dc0de> I only run if ppl are shooting at me.
20:52 <@Dagmar> It's fucking amazing how fast you can run when that's going on
20:52 <@dc0de> yup, and I only run to the vehicle or the gun safe...
20:52 <@Dagmar> That night the guy shot at me near Dragon Park... the *distance* I traveled in mid-air when I hit that hump was just absurd
20:53 <@Dagmar> I shit you not if it were entirely flat, I would have set a new world record
20:53 <@Dagmar> I was goddamn well trying to break the speed of sound
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20:54 <@Dagmar> Forty-six mother-fucking feet
20:54 <@Dagmar> I was *easily* doing 24+ mph
20:54 <@Dagmar> lol
20:54 < sync350> owut?
20:54 <@Dagmar> I got shot at one night many years back
20:55 < sync350> ah
20:55 <@Dagmar> Someoen was definitely trying to snuff my ass out
20:55 <@Dagmar> I am not joking when I say paranoia has saved my life
20:55 <@Dagmar> I heard th e first shot and I didnt' stick around to see another
20:56 <@Dagmar> I distinctly remember during the first three or four strides that old bromide about you're not supposed to be able to outrun bullets, but I was damned if I wasn't going to try
20:57 <@Dagmar> A marginal downhill slope and I was blazing directly down the diagonal of the block because that slope was pretty much my only cover
20:57 < sync350> Damn
20:57 < sync350> Yeah I've lucked out a few times
20:57 <@Dagmar> I got to the middle where there's a big drop behind the "special" school, and a swingset under a dinky little hill and that's when I just plain caught air
20:58 <@Dagmar> I landed in the middle of some freaking picnic benches
20:58 <@Dagmar> I must have looked like some kind of complete psycho
20:58 <@Dagmar> jackboots, full leather trenchcoat, black canvas pants, turtleneck.
20:59 <@Dagmar> Adrenaline does *crazy* things to your focus.  heh
21:00 <@Dagmar> I hadn't been back to that park until the Dragon Park reunion last year and I had to ask my friends "Were these benches always right fucking here?"
21:00 <@Dagmar> The coat may have been helping me glide for all I know
21:03 <@Dagmar> ...but by that point in the travel I wasn't really running anymore so much as kicking the shit out of the ground
21:05 <@Dagmar> If i have to run like that and someone's not shooting at me, I am going to beat someone so hard their next of kin will black out
21:05 <@Bahhumbug> heh
21:07 <@Dagmar> Seriously, I'd never even *tried* to lean that far out when running before
21:07 <@Dagmar> Adrenaline was the only reason I think I could keep working my legs like that
21:08 <@Dagmar> I remember seeing the little hill and not being able to see past it because I was that low from leaning into it so much
21:15 <@Dagmar> Then suddenly... I'm over it and airborne
21:15 <@Dagmar> That whole adrenaline slow-motion thing is crazy
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21:53 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: might I suggest the stainless steel zip ties?  Takes a bit more effort to cut than a plastic zip-tie
21:54 <@Dagmar> I'm not trying to keep the thing locked.  I just want to *know* if someone messes with it
21:54 <@Corydon76-home> I'm now putting them on a parrot cage as the bird has bitten off the plastic ones that were there before
21:55 <@Corydon76-home> Just occurred to me that with a zip tie, you could attach a note:  "I'm fucking tired of you cutting off the wrong meter.  Cut it off again, and you will have a lawsuit on your hands."
21:56 < RangerZ> the power went out here at ~5pm too Dagmar
21:56 < RangerZ> so it was a real brown out
22:14 <@Dagmar> The power came *on* here about 7h 37m ago according to the blinky clock
22:15 <@Dagmar> Aug 22 14:38:28 fw syslogd 1.4.1: restart (remote reception).
22:16 < RangerZ> ouch
22:16 <@Dagmar> Last entry in the syslog before then was at 14:11
22:16 < RangerZ> mine came on at 5:13 or so
22:16 < RangerZ> didn't care to do the exact math when i walked in, was only ~17min before i came in
22:17 <@Dagmar> Well, I'm not really "out of the woods" until the UPS is recharged
22:17 <@Dagmar> I didn't check to see if they came charged or not
22:20 <@Dagmar> It kinda pisses me off that until these guys started fucking around i was way over 200 days uptime
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23:07 <@Dagmar> Damnit something in the myth box didn't init right
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23:45 <@Dagmar> Several reboots in a row and it's finally working properly again
23:46 <@Evilpig> funny how things work that way sometimes.  figure out what was hanging?  an update or something?
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23:56 <@Dagmar> No, it's got something to do with the way the HD-PVR is initialized
23:56 <@Dagmar> Basically, it will record the exact same thing either "way" it boots up
23:56 <@Dagmar> It's just that for some goddamn reason it sometimes flags them as 60fps instead of 59.97
23:57 <@Dagmar> ...which causes audio desynch during playback with basically, well, everything
23:57 <@Evilpig> I can see that being annoying
23:57 <@Dagmar> I have yet to find a straightforward way to transcode that or even fix it
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