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08:02 <@sdodson> Dagmar: i don't use ATI's drivers
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12:25 <@Dagmar> In that case it's definitely a "Your agony will be... without end."
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13:08 <@sdodson> Dagmar: Whatever, it works flawlessly. I think you're a negative nancy.
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13:38 <@Sheath> it doesnt take much to display a webpage
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14:18 <@sdodson> Sheath: All the compositing required by gnome3 works fine. I don't do much else in linux. I have windows for when i want to play games.
14:22 <@Sheath> riveting tale chap
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14:30 <@sdodson> Sheath: thank you
14:31 <@Sheath> what games do you like to play
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14:33 <@sdodson> Sheath: I'm playing Duke Nukem Forever right now but it sucks.
14:33 <@sdodson> Starcraft II, TF2.
14:33 <@sdodson> Sheath: you?
14:33 <@Sheath> haha yeah dnf does suck
14:33 <@Sheath> i havent been playing many games recently though
14:38 <@sdodson> Sheath: no more l4d?
14:54 <@VampirePenguin> gnome3 jams
14:54 <@VampirePenguin> i have issues with kde4 because of the plasmas
14:54 <@VampirePenguin> the apps work fine in g3
14:55 <@VampirePenguin> Evilpig: bing
14:57 <@VampirePenguin> i am eventually planning on signing up for p15 but $$$ had to shift to other places ...
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15:26 <@sdodson> surprised, lots of people rage against gnome3
15:42 <@Bahhumbug> including many of rh's own developers :)
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15:54 <@Dagmar> Seems a little silly since it turns out it's pretty easy to just ignore Unity
15:54 <@Dagmar> ...and I'll join in with the rest of the crowd in that Unity is _awkward_ if you're trying to use a mouse and a touchpad.
15:55 <@Dagmar> I can see it being more useful than the "normal" interface on a touch screen tho'.
16:31 < RangerZ> to be honest, i still like KDE 3 a lot , though i'm used to ubuntu's gnome lately
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18:23 <@Dagmar> Hmm...
18:23 <@Dagmar> Looks like i'm going to have to modify this Xoom dock a bit
18:23 <@Dagmar> I strongly suspect they had to change their design at the last minute or something.
18:24 <@Dagmar> The thing has a micro USB connector sticking out of the dock that actually goes into the Xoom.
18:24 <@Dagmar> It connects to exactly nothing, it appears.
18:24 <@Dagmar> There are two little metal studs near it that feed the zoom power.
18:25 <@am1n0> and you want actual data going to the xoom i assume
18:25 <@Dagmar> Although it may be there's a tiny hub embedded in the thing because I don't think it's sending the audio to the 1/8 stereo connector on the dock through the USB port as analog anything
18:25 <@Dagmar> Yeah it doesnt' make sense to have a dock that doesn't "dock" the thing to a PC
18:26 <@am1n0> wait what are the connections to and from the dock?
18:26 < RangerZ> it "does" for keeping the price down, and making it simpler, if you only want a charging station, and maybe audio speakers
18:26 <@am1n0> usb, micro usb and audio?
18:26 <@Dagmar> WHile it doesn't exactly *need* a PC to connect directly to, it means if I want to sync data on it like a media player, I have to take the thing out of the dock and plug it into a cable
18:26 <@Dagmar> No, just microUSB and the two little metal studs for power
18:26 < RangerZ> i'd see that more as a "in the office audio dock" where you don't have access to new content, etc
18:27 <@Dagmar> I suspect if I were at the point where I could watch syslog on the hting I'd see it picking up a USB audio device when I connect
18:27 <@Dagmar> er connect it to the docking station
18:27 <@Dagmar> I'm gonna have to look into whether or not it'll charge over the USB connection alone tho
18:28 <@am1n0> what rating are the power studs
18:28 < cerkit> the answer is 42
18:28 < RangerZ> dagmar you have a xoom, i take it?
18:28 <@am1n0> thats quite a bit of current
18:28 <@Dagmar> Rating?  THey're littlle tiny brass-looking metal pips sticking up
18:28 <@Dagmar> Rangerz: Yep
18:28 < cerkit> you have a xoom!?
18:28 < RangerZ> you like it? been debating on buying one
18:28 <@am1n0> well not rating but current output
18:29 <@Dagmar> amin0: Hmm.,... Lemme check the wall wart.  That's a good idea
18:29 < cerkit> I need a tablet.
18:29 <@Dagmar> Bleh.  Wall-wart's power output is 1.5a, so that's pretty much just enough to drive a hub
18:29 < cerkit> i was thinking the Galaxy
18:30 < cerkit> Any idea which is better?
18:30 <@am1n0> why not just get an ipad? theyre magickal
18:30 <@am1n0> and revolutionary
18:30 < cerkit> ehhh
18:30 < cerkit> I dont like Apple.
18:30 <@am1n0> pioneered the touchscreen
18:30 <@am1n0> and the button
18:30 <@Dagmar> Honestly, since they're all running Android and we're seeing second gen hardware now, I'd hit up a store and take a look at their screens
18:30 <@Dagmar> Functionally they're going to be fairly identical.
18:30 < cerkit> I have a Touch
18:30 <@Dagmar> Also, the Xoom does not have the shit "AGPS" mechanism that you'd find in a phone
18:30 < RangerZ> am1n0: i'm pretty sure it was universities in the70's that pioneered the touch screen ;)
18:31 <@Dagmar> ...or at least the Wifi only model I have seems to have a decent works-by-itself GPS
18:31 < RangerZ> and Apple just waited until the patents wore out and the power usage was to a decent level, lol
18:31 <@Dagmar> It picks up a lock from indoors in moments
18:31 <@am1n0> haha pure sarcasm though
18:31 <@am1n0> Dagmar: thats pretty impressive
18:31 < cerkit> What I need is something to boost my goddamn cellphone signal
18:31 <@Dagmar> amin0: Yeah I was dreading what I'd read about them being AGPS
18:31 < cerkit> I like in the town of no signal.
18:31 < RangerZ> ahh, sorry, i'm out of it... tired of packing
18:32 <@Dagmar> ...but it picked up where I was in the apartment as well as at Bongo Java under the porch like it was no big thing
18:32 <@am1n0> packing blows
18:32 <@am1n0> that's awesome
18:32 <@Dagmar> cerkit: They actually sell stuff for that now
18:32 < cerkit> As I get closer to my development -- 3 bars becomes 2, by the time I'm in my drive way I have 0
18:32 < cerkit> Dagmar: I know.  I need to get it.
18:32 < RangerZ> after 3 days of setting up the local italian fest's power, lights, water, and other misc. crap... yeah i ache in muscles i forgot i had :(
18:32 < cerkit> Dagmar: Somedays are better then others - when shit is critical, and I'm home, I just shift over to GoogleVoice
18:33 <@Dagmar> cerkit: THe funny as hell thing was I hadn't even thought about the webcam in the thing, and two hours after I've got it home and I'm just poking at it, Lindsey does a video call at me
18:33 <@Dagmar> ...and it worked.
18:34 <@Dagmar> I was like "Shit.  I didnt' have to do a goddamn thing for that to happen properly."
18:34 <@Dagmar> It works pretty well, too
18:34 <@Dagmar> ...although it did make me painfully aware that maybe I need to install brighter light bulbs
18:34 <@am1n0> what program did you use?
18:35 <@Dagmar> amin0: it was just Google Chat
18:35 <@am1n0> oh nice
18:35 <@Dagmar> Yeah, she was on her mac
18:35 <@Dagmar> The brightest lights I have in here are 60w CFLs.
18:35 <@Dagmar> The study has two of them.
18:36 < cerkit> Thats cool
18:36 < cerkit> The video shit.
18:36 < RangerZ> dagmar, look into some color changing LEDs, that way you can set some mood lighting, lol
18:36 <@Dagmar> I walked all over the apartment trying to find a place where I wasn't quite "a shadowy figure" on the webcam
18:36 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Dude, I'm a raver.
18:36 < RangerZ> (actually I have been, out of curiosity), and they aren't too expensive
18:37 <@am1n0> color changing leds as the only source of lighting for a home
18:37 <@am1n0> i like it
18:37 < cerkit> I can't say I can entirely justify my signal problem a real problem -- it's my personal cell -- which is just random chicks texting me.  That's all it's for-
18:37 < RangerZ> standard e26/e27  5watt for 30$ or so
18:37 <@Dagmar> In the den I've got two long tube blacklights, two blacklight CFLs mounted in lamps, a nice plasma skull...
18:37 < RangerZ> am1n0: they do make a nice bright "cool white" 5500 degree white
18:38 < RangerZ> not sure how many lumens, have to look into it more
18:38 <@Dagmar> My eyes are fairly light-sensitive tho, so it's dim in here by design
18:38 <@Dagmar> If I got up in the middle of the night and turned on 200w of light in the bathroom or someth8ing, it would hit me like a bomb going off
18:38 < cerkit> Dagmar: They sell "repeaters" or "signal boosters" for non-digital cells?
18:38 < cerkit> The phone I'm talking about is a frikken pre-paid :)
18:39 < cerkit> Its a pre-paid I give to girls.
18:39 < cerkit> :)
18:39 <@Dagmar> cerkit: You can get both band repeaters as well as digital femtocell thingies
18:39 < RangerZ> no shame in that, virgin mobile has the best rates going around right now
18:39 <@am1n0> RangerZ: oh nice in addition to other colors?
18:39 < RangerZ> yeah
18:39 < RangerZ> they are full DMX512 controllable
18:39 < RangerZ> so dimmable
18:39 <@Dagmar> Yeah it's sad that Cricket finally caved and started requiring data plans
18:39 < cerkit> I graduate people through a system - 1) googlevoice, 2) the prepaid, 3) a real number, depending on levels of coolness
18:39 < cerkit> (and trust)
18:39 <@Dagmar> I was about to jump ship to them so I could get a neew phone with markedly less Windows Mobile 6.1 in it
18:40 <@Dagmar> I'm pretty sure the insane-o thing my phone is doing when it starts random apps while the phone is locked and in my pocket is a result of the way I disabled cellular packet data support
18:40 <@Dagmar> Specifically, I deleted that DLL.
18:40 < RangerZ> am1n0: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001JHZSEG/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1 there is some cheap version, 30degree angle of light output
18:41 <@Dagmar> The phone is not allowed on that filthy, filthy network while I've got my password safe on it
18:41 < RangerZ> though personally i would want 60 degree for home use, hitting a reflector in the housing
18:41 < RangerZ> though 30 might not be bad for the same goal
18:42 < RangerZ> plus they do strobe, flash, with the defualt controller
18:42 <@Dagmar> I've got three strings of color changing LED christmas lights from last year
18:42 <@Dagmar> It took awhile to find the ones I had seen, but i finally found them
18:42 < RangerZ> though if you know EE, i think you can make it do any color if you rig up a dmx to IR box
18:43 <@Dagmar> They were $5.99 each.
18:43 <@Dagmar> 12 three color assemblies in each one
18:43 <@Dagmar> I already took one of the controllers apart and put it back together.  It might take about six hours of work to replace it with an Arduino
18:44 <@Dagmar> I was hoping for an I2C bus
18:44 <@Dagmar> Ihaven't tried interfacing to one of those yet, but I think I can make it work
18:45 < RangerZ> http://www.amazon.com/Changing-LED-Strip-Controller-LEDwholesalers/dp/B0040FJ27S/ref=pd_bxgy_hi_img_b
18:46 < RangerZ> this one looks like it has some good possibilities, i like the pics with them showing it installed
18:46 < RangerZ> and this is also full DMX controllable
18:46 < RangerZ> so you can have pretty much any color
18:46 < RangerZ> that is RGB-able
18:48 < cerkit> You should how many people on FB, freely give up their dox.
18:48 < cerkit> Andh it my phone.
18:48 < cerkit> It's awesome.
18:49 < cerkit> All women of course.
18:49 < cerkit> I googled a list of female first names, and used friend finder, and friended every hot girl within a 3 town radius
18:49 < cerkit> It's worked out nicely.
18:51  * RangerZ takes notes
18:51 < RangerZ> lol
18:51 < cerkit> I should just develop something to do it, over the FB API
18:51 < cerkit> "HotChickFinder" App
18:51 < cerkit> or some shit
18:51 < RangerZ> cant
18:51 < RangerZ> someone already did, and it got killed
18:51 < cerkit> That's gay.
18:52 < cerkit> It really worked.
18:52 < cerkit> I got invites to beach houses...
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18:52 < cerkit> and parties...
18:52 < cerkit> and date offers...
18:52 < cerkit> It's been very satisfying.
18:52 < RangerZ> actually, match.com is your best bet though(for passive results), b/c mostly girls use it for looking for guys
18:52 < RangerZ> and don't respond much to guy's attempts on there
18:53 < RangerZ> (from one of the people that develops for it)
18:53 < cerkit> I don't go near those kinds of sites.
18:53 < cerkit> "dating" sites or whatever
18:54 < cerkit> I'm just not comfortable with the idea of telling people I met someone significant to me, on match.com or whatever site.
18:54 < RangerZ> i just found it interesting what they were saying, that they made the site to feel comfortable to women and didn't care at all about guys
18:54 < RangerZ> and knew that guys would just come b/c women were there
18:54 < RangerZ> aka... just like bars/clubs, lol
18:54 < cerkit> Facebook, I feel like I can say it, and for some unearthly reason, it's somehow more socially acceptable (so long as I leave out the random ssearch part :) )
18:55 < cerkit> yeah
18:55 < cerkit> I'm sure that's 100% true and viable as a strategy.
18:55 < RangerZ> a friend of mine from my old software etc days actually became a model and lives out in cali now
18:55 < RangerZ> and keeps inviting me to partys out there... 500$ table drink min. and free hummer limo rides for the ladies
18:56 < cerkit> There would be no economy or innovation, if women continued to let us getting away having dirty sex in the bushes.  Most of our culture is driven by women (imho).
18:56 < RangerZ> and i'm like... wtf dude... seriously... i don't live out there, and don't make enough to waste on that, lol
18:57 < RangerZ> though... i have to admit... the "get the girls there" and the guys will just follow... does work out there
18:58 < cerkit> it works here too
18:59 < RangerZ> i'm sure
18:59 < cerkit> it works everywhere i've ever seen it tried - but is quite dependent on the quality of the population of women
18:59 < cerkit> heh
18:59 < cerkit> My thing, I'm starting to get to that age where...
18:59 < cerkit> It's time I got a little more serious about a long term relationship.  Which means meeting a lot of people...
18:59 < cerkit> So, that I can really do my homework, etc.
19:00 < RangerZ> if i didn't know him personally, i'd say he was a canidate for douchebag archives... lol
19:00 < cerkit> hahaha
19:00 < RangerZ> https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/282486_678554170332_49105662_34285279_1536681_n.jpg (the one with the shades)
19:01 < cerkit> yeah in that pic he has dipped into douche territory
19:01 < cerkit> but, hes safe only becuz of the dude next to him's hair
19:01 < RangerZ> pretty much
19:04 < cerkit> i'd have sex with all the women though
19:04 < cerkit> so
19:04 < RangerZ> wow... and i thought the previous pic was bad... https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/15745_553375190012_49105662_32545636_4723520_n.jpg
19:04 < RangerZ> this one makes him look like the anti-douche compared to the other guys, lol
19:04 < cerkit> one from the end, on the right side?
19:04 < cerkit> can't really tell
19:04 < RangerZ> yeah
19:04 < cerkit> ok
19:04 < cerkit> yeah, he looks like every guy in a new jersey bar there
19:05 < cerkit> except, he's a little low on tan
19:05 < cerkit> heh
19:05 < RangerZ> he is from the "ice belt" so ... ehh
19:05 < RangerZ> he's trying hard though , lol
19:06 < cerkit> straight-stack hair: check.  Untucked dress shirt: check.  Ridiuclous tan:  negative.
19:06 < cerkit> so, he's like 60% jersey bar dude
19:06 < cerkit> right there
19:06 < cerkit> Almost 50% -- because the tan makes up a lot.
19:08 <@Sheath> its gonna get louder
19:09 < cerkit> http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k161/BadWolf325/NewJerseyDouchebags004.jpg
19:09 < cerkit> thats what like
19:09 <@Sheath> old
19:09 < cerkit> 6 out of 10 people look like
19:10 < cerkit> yeah
19:10 < cerkit> but, it's en vogue still
19:10 < cerkit> so, it's valid and relevant
19:10 < cerkit> http://www.dysonology.com/uploaded_images/pic00236-747618.jpg
19:10 < cerkit> when tanning goes bad!
19:10 <@Sheath> lol
19:11 <@Sheath> i just lay out on my pool naked when i want to get a tan
19:11 < RangerZ> atleast be naturally pale... and accept it, lol
19:11 < cerkit> i dont do any of that shit
19:11 < cerkit> heh
19:11 < cerkit> so
19:11 < cerkit> yeah
19:11 < RangerZ> well... back to packing :(
19:12 < cerkit> I'm German though, so I naturally get an okay skin color.
19:12 < cerkit> (in the summer)
19:13 < cerkit> It's really the Italians who take it to like... groundbreaking levels.
19:13 < cerkit> At least, in my experience.
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