--- Log opened Tue Jun 07 00:00:31 2011
00:38 <@Bahhumbug> Some of these shots are truly spectacular:  http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/06/chiles-puyehue-volcano-erupts/100081/?hl=en
01:34 <@NotLarry> Dagmar: ping
06:25 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:27  * Evilpig grumbles
06:30 <@Dolemite> You really should get that looked at by a professional.  It makes that grumbling sound too often.
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07:31 <@Dickie> Dolemite: I believe that's a little redundant
07:31 <@Dickie> I have it on good authority that bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks.
07:31 < detro> ^^ Also, can't turn a hoe into a house wife, cause hoe's don't act right.
08:01 <@Dolemite> Dickie : It is possible to be a be0tch, without being a h0e.
08:14 <@Dickie> [citation needed]
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08:18 <@Dolemite> This ain't no damn wikipedia, be0tch!
08:18 <@Dolemite> Or do you prefer to called a h0e?
08:18 <@Dickie> I'm Dickie!
08:18  * Dickie wiggles
08:19 < eryc> [This article needs improvement]
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09:30 <@Evilpig> Now accepting donations to the Wilpig Legal Fund.
09:32 < eryc> what did you do now
09:33  * opticron blames sony
09:33 <@Evilpig> stuck my dick in crazy
09:36 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zp1TbLFPp8
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09:56 <@Dolemite> Evilpig : The problem wasn't sticking your dick in crazy.  The problem was liking it enough to put a ring on it.
09:57 <@Dolemite> Beyonce can go to hell.
09:57 <@Dolemite> hahahahaha
10:01 < eryc> you shoulda put a ring on dickie
10:05 <@Dickie> He didn't like it.
10:05 <@Dolemite> You never put a ring on a h0e
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12:04 < RangerZ> so anyone feel like PMing me about apartment shopping in nashville metro? (so as to not clog up the chan)
12:04 <@Dolemite> What brings you to Nashvegas?
12:05 < RangerZ> nashvegas*?
12:05 <@Evilpig> RangerZ: what part of town are you gonna be working in?
12:05 < RangerZ> vandy
12:05 <@Dolemite> Corydon76 is always looking for a housboi to clean his place in the nekkid
12:05 <@Evilpig> no shit?  you wanna live here where I do then
12:05 <@Dolemite> Pig may be looking for a room mate
12:05 <@Evilpig> No!
12:05 <@Dolemite> lol
12:05 <@Evilpig> sorry no roommate but i'll point you in the direction
12:05 <@Evilpig> I like having a spare room for company 
12:06 < RangerZ> yeah... not looking to do the undergrad-dorm thing
12:06 < RangerZ> lol
12:06 <@Evilpig> I live at 141 neese drive.   gazebo apartments.  decent rates.  ~15min to vandy
12:06 <@Evilpig> what are you doing at vandy?  
12:06 < RangerZ> CS PhD
12:06 <@Evilpig> cool.  
12:07 < RangerZ> well, masters into PhD, but still
12:07 <@Evilpig> notlarry and I work in the NOC on the university side
12:07 <@Dolemite> The 2600 meeting spot is stumbling distance from Vandy, too
12:07 <@Evilpig> yar
12:07 <@Dolemite> I used to work at Vandy, just moved to ORNL last August
12:08 <@Evilpig> the good news of the day is I have a new motherboard to fix this broken piece of shit!
12:08 < RangerZ> i was down there last summer, but just stayed on campus
12:08 < RangerZ> so not 'too' familiar with the suburbs, etc
12:08 <@Dolemite> Hey, maybe Dagmar wants a room mate...
12:09 <@Evilpig> RangerZ: as long as you're not a dick.  we'll show ya around.  ;)
12:09 < RangerZ> crap. i'm screwed then
12:10 < RangerZ> lol
12:10 <@Dolemite> Evilpig : What if he likes to be a dick to Dagmar in minecraft?  That's actually a bonus.
12:11 <@Evilpig> this is true...
12:11 <@Evilpig> I'm talking myself out of being a royal dick right now.  but I am pretty damn pissed
12:12 <@Dolemite> yeah, take the high road for the next 90 days
12:21 <@Dolemite> RangerZ : Will you have your own mode of transport once in Nashville?  That is a major determining factor for your housing location.
12:21 < RangerZ> yeah
12:21 < RangerZ> might drive down this week
12:21 <@Dolemite> ok, then go with Pig's suggestion
12:21 < RangerZ> and check out a few places
12:22 < RangerZ> personally i'd love to throw away the car
12:22 < RangerZ> but the bus system there sucks worse than the one here... and thats saying something since ours was ranked 97/100 in the US
12:22 <@Dolemite> it's pretty convenient for work, but not for going out at night
12:22 <@Dolemite> O
12:22 <@Dolemite> I'm tellin' ya, move in with Dagmar
12:22 <@Evilpig> heh
12:22 <@Dolemite> You could get a matching scooter
12:23 < RangerZ> ...
12:23 <@Dolemite> we'll chip in and buy you some tassles
12:23 <@Dolemite> but only if you'll install some on his first
12:23 < RangerZ> so dagmar is this chan's "impy" ... i see
12:24 <@Dolemite> Dagmar likes to ride his scooter in Nashville traffic and curse at people in large SUV's and kick in their quarter panels
12:24 < eryc> and Dolemite likes to eat burgers and steaks and checkin to facebook every 5s
12:24 <@Dolemite> And feels that he has no need to take the Motorcycle Riders Saftey Course, because he already knows how to ride.
12:24 <@Evilpig> RangerZ: the other place you might want to look at if you want to ditch the car is the something at vanderbilt.  the hills maybe?
12:24 <@Dolemite> eryc : 5m
12:24 < RangerZ> nah
12:24 < RangerZ> looked there online, too much $
12:25 <@Dolemite> Evilpig : Village at Vanderbilt
12:25 <@Evilpig> that's the one.
12:25 < RangerZ> nah, i plan on keeping the car, when i went to UC Berkely, you didn't need a car, but from what i've seen of nashville
12:25 < RangerZ> you absolutely need one
12:25 <@Evilpig> nashville is a little spread
12:25 <@Dolemite> you pretty much do
12:26 <@Evilpig> but once you find some of the good bits the drive is okay
12:26 <@Dolemite> or a bike
12:26 <@Dolemite> though it does snow enough to make having a bike as your only form of transportation a pain
12:26 <@Evilpig> fair warning.  people here can't drive in rain...  snow and ice really fuck em up
12:27 <@Dolemite> Shit, you spill a 12 oz. bottle of water on the road in Nashville and the IQ's drop by 10 points.
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12:27 <@Evilpig> coming from up north you shouldn't have any issues.  they are a special kind of stupid here
12:27 < fall0ut> people here can't drive period.
12:27 < fall0ut> although it is marginally better than the idiots in south florida..
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12:28 <@Dolemite> Sadly, the drivers in Middle TN are somewhat better than those in East TN.
12:28 <@Evilpig> thank jeebus that motherboard has four banks for ram.  if this drive will boot in that one without a new HAL it'll be a hell of a day
12:28 <@Dolemite> My wife and I have had more close calls since moving here than in the past 5 years in Middle TN.
12:32 <@Evilpig> got a php e-commerce developer job in my inbox today dol.  it's tempting
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12:34 <@Dolemite> contract job?
12:34 <@Evilpig> yeah
12:34 <@Dolemite> If you've got the time, there's your legal fund contribution...
12:35 <@Evilpig> it's a full time gig.  I don't have the time
12:35 <@Dolemite> ah
12:35 <@Evilpig> I am pretty sure I could do the work.  just not at the times they want
12:35 <@Evilpig> This opportunity is a 3 month contract to hire, paying $40 per hour on the pay rate, and $75,000-$80,000 once it goes full time. 
12:35 <@Evilpig> My client is a company that specializes in the development of e-commerce online applications and the creation of a social commerce platform. This is a new, growing company, and it will be critical for the qualified resource to be flexible and deadline driven.
12:35 <@Evilpig> You will be working with a team of 5 developers and spending the majority of your time on PHP and server-side technologies. Although, it will also be important for the ideal resource to have experience with client-side development.
12:36 <@Evilpig> Skills Needed:
12:36 <@Evilpig> Passion for e-commerce
12:36 <@Evilpig> +4 years of experience developing Web 2.0 applications (Web Services, PHP, Ajax)
12:36 <@Evilpig> Object-Oriented PHP 5 working experience
12:36 <@Evilpig> Unit testing experience with PHPUnit 
12:36 <@Evilpig> Knowledge and experience with Zend Framework
12:36 <@Evilpig> Knowledge of the client side technologies: JavaScript, HTML, and CSS
12:36 <@Dolemite> I've done the startup gig before...   if you thought Chuckles was hard to work under, you ain't seen nothing yet.
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12:37 <@Dolemite> Plus there's the unfortunate fact that most startups plummet to the earth, with only those at the very top getting parachutes
12:38 < teknoz> might i inquire as to which start-up you're talking about?
12:39 <@Dolemite> the one that teknoz works for
12:39 <@Dolemite> er, I mean
12:39 <@Dolemite> I worked for Bluestar Communications
12:40 < teknoz> ah
12:40 <@Dolemite> some 10 years ago now, but I've also consulted with others during the bubble, and seen many go down in flames
12:41 < teknoz> noticing a pattern? =)
12:41 < teknoz> you consult, they go down in flames =)
12:41 <@Dolemite> Except that I've also consulted with some that have taken off
12:45 < teknoz> who you working for now?
12:47 <@Evilpig> he's at oak ridge
12:48 < teknoz> dasterdly
12:54 <@Dolemite> I work for THE PEOPLEZ!
12:55 <@Dagmar> Apologies to Tim Ball in advance... I just had to post that video on Memestreams
12:55 <@Evilpig> uh oh
12:56 <@Dagmar> http://www.memestreams.net/thread/bid130975/
12:57 <@Dolemite> people still go to memestreams?
12:58 <@Dolemite> doh!  meeting in 2 minutes.
13:05 <@Evilpig> guess i'll shut this thing down and see if this drive will boot on the other board
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13:18 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: yep
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13:35 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: yep to what?
13:38 <@Evilpig> Athlon II X240 vs Athlon 64 X2 6000  anyone know straight off the differences?
13:41 <@opticron> hmmm
13:41 <@opticron> not off hand
13:41 <@Evilpig> i'm looking on amd's site they are really close
13:42 <@opticron> links?
13:42 <@Evilpig> the 240 is the 45nm process where the 64 is the older larger die
13:42 <@Evilpig> http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/processors/athlon-ii-x2/Pages/AMD-athlon-ii-x2-processor-model-numbers-feature-comparison.aspx
13:42 <@Evilpig> http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUDetail.aspx?id=548&f1=AMD+Athlon%E2%84%A2+X2&f2=&f3=&f4=&f5=&f6=&f7=&f8=&f9=&f10=False&f11=&f12=
13:42 <@Evilpig> looks like the 240 runs a little cooler
13:45 <@Evilpig> ah ha!  winner! http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUSideBySide.aspx?id=548&id=587#
13:45 <@opticron> the older 90nm chip is 200mhz faster
13:45 < RangerZ> i have the phenom II x6 with the 6mb level 3, tis nice
13:45 <@opticron> I'd go with the athlon II
13:45 <@Evilpig> they should make that easier than cobbling the url together from two different processor lines
13:45 < RangerZ> but thats if you can go that route
13:45 <@opticron> RangerZ, that's what I have as well :)
13:46 <@opticron> Evilpig, I found the right page by searching a little more
13:46 <@Evilpig> the case right now is my current mobo has the 64x2 on it.  it's blue screening all the time claiming crap about the secondary core timing out
13:46 <@opticron> go with the 45nm core
13:46 <@Evilpig> so I am gonna steal the motherboard processor from the other one but if it wasn't going to be better then i'd wait a little bit and save some dough and buy something new
13:46 <@opticron> it's worth losing 200mhz
13:46 < RangerZ> yeah, when in doubt, smaller die = better
13:46 < RangerZ> MUCH less power usage too
13:47 <@Evilpig> I think the x240 has one more meg of cache too
13:47 <@opticron> and there's a chance the newer one will outpace the older one even though it's slower
13:47 <@opticron> same cache size on both
13:48 <@Evilpig> I swear looking at the other screen they were different.  but this one has them the same
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13:48 <@Evilpig> oh well.  i'll wipe my other drive and do a clean install on it.  migrate stuff over then swap the boards
13:48 <@Evilpig> the other one doesn't have a big enough PSU for the video card
13:51 < RangerZ> so any other rental recommendations?
13:52 <@Dagmar> Depends
13:52 <@Dagmar> Do you like being depressed?
13:53 <@Dolemite> Move in with Dagmar
13:53 < RangerZ> um...
13:53 <@Evilpig> if I was losing what was left of my mind i would offer you my spare room.
13:54 <@Dolemite> Or you could just buy my house.
13:54 < RangerZ> 600$ deal
13:54 <@Evilpig> nobody wants that dump.  ;)  that's why it's still on the market
13:54 <@Dagmar> There plenty of Section 8 housing available
13:55 <@Dagmar> Just... all of your neighbors would likely classify as "circling the drain"
13:55 <@Dolemite> Hell, lots of people want it.  They just want it at foreclosure pricing.
13:55 <@Dagmar> ...which is pretty handy if you're into human misery.
13:55 <@Dolemite> We had another showing last night.  Waiting to see what their lowball offer will be.
13:57 <@Evilpig> can you really blame them for trying, Dolemite ?
13:57 <@Dolemite> No, but they should at least be willing to meet somewhere in the middle
13:57 <@Dolemite> Or rather, somewhere reasonable
13:57 <@Dolemite> We've had offers where they won't even budge after the first counter offer
13:58 <@Dolemite> And lots of rather unreasonable requests....   like asking us to fund their loan application fees - before they're approved for the loan!
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14:03 < RangerZ> well you can thank the "first time buyers" shows on tlc, etc
14:03 < RangerZ> for that one
14:03 < RangerZ> they often show people doing that there
14:04 <@Dolemite> Well sure, you make an offer of less than the asking price, but you need to be prepared to come up.  If you can't counter after your first bid, you are shopping outside of your market and need to look elsewhere.
14:04 <@Evilpig> with the market the way it is.  i'm sure there are several people that will take the low offer to avoid bankruptcy, etc in some cases
14:05 <@Dolemite> I'm sorry that your broke ass can't afford the kind of house that you want, but don't expect me to sell you mine for pennies on the dollar.
14:05 <@Dolemite> Yeah, see, I've got another year of the lab paying my mortgage before I get desparate.
14:05 <@Evilpig> no kidding?  damn
14:05 <@Dolemite> Yeah, up to 2 years
14:05 <@Evilpig> I need one of those deals.
14:05 <@Evilpig> get someone to pay on my house in murray.  heh
14:05 <@Dolemite> But the longer I use that, the less money in the pool for them to reimburse me the closing costs
14:06 <@Dolemite> They paid for the move, closing costs on buying the house here, and 12% of the list price of the house in Smyrna to use for either continuing ownership costs or closing costs on the sale
14:07 <@Dolemite> Ideally the house will sell right at the 1 year mark, that way I maximize how much money I get out of the benefit :)
14:08 <@Dolemite> Plus I got a signing bonus of 4 small children to use as slaves.
14:08 <@Evilpig> I thought those were called interns
14:08 <@Evilpig> did I tell you roland is getting one of those?
14:08 <@Dolemite> The interns are college students
14:09 <@Dolemite> No, what the fuck for?  Someone wants to intern to learn how to drink coffee and smoke cigarettes all day?
14:09 <@Evilpig> I dunno.  I asked what we had to do in order to get a college student of our own
14:09 <@Evilpig> I requested a hot one
14:09 <@Dolemite> This place is full of 'em after yesterday.  Parking lot is fux0red, which is why I'm riding the bike to work this summer.
14:10 <@Dolemite> Plenty of parking in the motorcycle spaces
14:11 <@Evilpig> http://jung.dev.wilpig.com/  So I wrote up this little app for my buddy jay to finish his senior research project with
14:11 <@Evilpig> he still hasn't noticed the title
14:12 <@Dolemite> Vorshi?
14:12 <@Evilpig> yeah
14:12 <@Evilpig> the crazy bastard went into psychology
14:13 <@Dolemite> I thought he'd burned his bridge with you
14:13 <@Evilpig> he just burned his ability to ever live with me
14:13 <@Evilpig> he's still a friend
14:13 <@Dolemite> that's cool
14:13 <@Evilpig> you gotta have at lease one insane friend
14:13 <@Evilpig> pretty sure that's a rule
14:13 <@Dolemite> You've already got NotLarry, thought
14:13 <@Dolemite> er, though
14:13 <@Evilpig> I might end up killing him though
14:14 <@Dolemite> His idea or yours?
14:14 <@Evilpig> if our schedules change on saturday as we've been told he will be spared cause he and I go back to anti-pig and anti-notlarry
14:15 <@Dolemite> Well that sucks.  It will be even harder to get together with both of you when I come into town to visit.
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14:17 <@Dolemite> Of course, that may just make you more likely to kill him, because he'll miss you enough to start leaving you subtle messages to find when you come in to work.
14:18 <@Evilpig> I can deal with those
14:18 <@Evilpig> you get that email yet?
14:18 <@Dolemite> yeah, I chuckled
14:18 <@Evilpig> good deal
14:19 <@Evilpig> I told a friend of mine the other day I think I might have a future in desktop publishing now
14:19 <@Evilpig> pretty sure I can't show anyone those fliers and them hire me though.  they'd laugh me out of the building
14:20 <@Dolemite> ok, one more meeting then I'm outta here
14:20 <@Dolemite> later
14:20 <@Evilpig> later
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14:41 < RangerZ> http://volokh.com/2011/06/06/crime-to-post-images-that-cause-emotional-distress-without-legitimate-purpose/
14:41 < RangerZ> how did they know i was coming to tenn... geez
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14:45 <@opticron> is the very act of causing emotional distress not a legit purpose?
14:45 <@opticron> also, anything can cause emotional distress to the right person
14:45 <@opticron> some people fear computers
14:46 <@opticron> rabble rabble rabble
14:47 <@Dickie> But I have a right not to be offended
14:49 <@opticron> you apparently also have a right not to be emotionally distressed
14:49 <@Dickie> I group that with taking offense.
14:49 <@opticron> debt collectors and IRS agents cause most people emotional distress, no?
14:50 <@Dickie> Interesting precedent.
14:50 <@Dickie> Interestingly retarded.
14:51 <@Dickie> But see, they use the word "reasonably"
14:51 <@opticron> I wouldn't call most people reasonable
14:52 <@Dickie> It'll get struck down somewhere along the line well before the supreme court.
14:53 <@Dickie> Or the broader scope won't be enforced as it won't have a designated victim
14:53 <@Dickie> A minority won't be able to wander onto the local KKK's website and file suit.
14:54 <@Dickie> But what in the hell is wrong with TN lately.
14:54 <@Dickie> question mark
15:04  * Evilpig photoshops an image of Dickie in bed with Dolemite 
15:05  * Evilpig adds in a goat and calls it just another Tuesday night
15:05 <@ShadowHntr> yeah especially with the don't say gay bill that passed :P
15:06 <@ShadowHntr> at times i feel ashamed to say i am from tn :(
15:09 <@Evilpig> WOOOO! I got it to boot my existing drive
15:10 <@Dickie> heh:
15:10 <@Dickie> "Tennessee: The 'Don't Say Gay' State"
15:11 < sync350> ha
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15:15 <@Dickie> you should sell those bumper stickers
15:15 <@Dickie> take the idea
15:16 <@Dickie> it's yours
15:16 <@Evilpig> I have a better idea
15:16 <@Evilpig> but you can't see it til phreaknic
15:17 <@Dickie> NOW I'M TOO EXCITED TO SLEEP
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15:20 <@Evilpig> this other hard drive is taking too long to detect all the hardware
15:21 <@Evilpig> but it appears to be working which is good.  after I update all the drivers I'll run a system test and see if the scores go up
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15:34 <@sdodson> i just got asked how to set up Cell based hardware
15:34 <@sdodson> where do these people find out I know this stuff
15:35 <@Evilpig> the new wii looks pretty neat
15:35 <@Evilpig> that controller is f'in huge though
15:35 <@sdodson> I should just do freelance consulting, I am apparnetly the only person in the world that knows shit
15:35 <@Evilpig> http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2011/06/07/introducing-nintendos-wii-u/
15:39 <@sdodson> 10 years ago I could hack out an NFS root network boot environment in an hour, now I can't. :(
15:53 <@e2> sdodson: cuz ur old
15:57 <@e2> and you need a shower
16:00 <@Evilpig> performance score on the 240 is slightly higher.  processor score went from 6.1 to 6.3  the memory score jumped up from 6.1 to 7.1
16:00 <@Evilpig> since I got it to work I guess tonight when I get up i'll be swapping motherboards
16:03 <@sdodson> e2: :(
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16:32 <@opticron> Evilpig, you talking about that stupid windows benchmark thing that goes from 1.0 to 7.9?
16:35 <@Evilpig> yar
16:36 <@Evilpig> only real quick speed test i had to compare them
16:39 <@sdodson> opticron: what makes it stupid?
16:40 <@opticron> seemingly random numbers for extents of the range
16:41 <@opticron> makes it less intuitive
16:41 <@Evilpig> it's useful to compare a to b
16:42 <@Evilpig> and since i just mved the hard drive from one to the other and reran the test the numbers were meaningful
17:00 < eryc> http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/81570920/?lt=em
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17:51 <@Dagmar> Well, that piece of shit Wollager backdoored everyone and sold WRVU's fucking transmitter licence *anyway*.
17:52 <@Dagmar> Fuck, fuck, fuckity-fuck, fuck.  Fuckering fucker fucked fuck.
17:52 <@Dagmar> ...and in closing: Fuck Mark Wollaeger.
17:52 < eryc> WRVU is destroyed?
17:59 <@Dagmar> Pretty much.
18:00 <@Dagmar> They were claiming they were going to wait until the Fall to make a decision on this, but apparently that was just to get everyone to stop watching so they could do the deal in private before people could get a chance to really throw a fit about it.
18:02 <@opticron> shitty
18:04 <@Dagmar> Utterly.
18:05 <@opticron> if it were my uni (when I started college), he'd be strung up, but now days the student body might just roll over and take it
18:05 <@Dagmar> The student body is out for hte summer
18:05 <@opticron> yeah...
18:05 <@opticron> that's pretty bad
18:07 <@Dagmar> There'd be "unrest" on campus if it weren't for the middle of summer semester
18:08 <@opticron> I wonder if it'll pop up after everyone comes back
18:17 <@Dagmar> Not going to happen.
18:17 <@Dagmar> They sold the transmitter licence for three million.
18:17 <@Dagmar> "WRVU", in exchange, gets use of WPLN's HD3 HD radio
18:18 <@Dagmar> ...which no one listens to and damn few people even have a reciever for.
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